Islam in Egypt
Posted 05 November 2004 - 12:13 AM
I'm sure we have egyptians on this forum, right? So please share stuff with us (both sides of the "coin").
Posted 06 November 2004 - 02:30 PM
^ hmm...isn't there a rule against posting in a different language? I'm not sure though, well i'm half egyptian! Egypt has got it's extremes, in class- i've got these guys that don't fast because they "need" to smoke, but then i've got this other classmate who sits there and reads the Quar'an. ! But im just talking about the youth here, their parents are kinda different. Most of the kids are sent to religion classes by their parents ...i wonder why they turn out this way.
Posted 10 November 2004 - 03:33 AM
Just thought I'd share what I have been told by reliable people. Al Fajr Center in Cairo is really good, although not free. Someone else, however, said that Alex. is better. Also, I forgot what city but the masjid where Shaykh Usama Qoosee teaches is good. He teaches in fusha.. and it's free, i.e. if you want to study the deen there.
Posted 10 November 2004 - 10:34 AM
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Peace be upon you. Yes, I'm here from Egypt and I am in dire need of helping-hand.
Bro. What help you need?
Posted 10 November 2004 - 02:27 PM
Ooh! Thanks for the translation Arif, yea- i know i might be really late...but still- how can we help bro?
Posted 11 November 2004 - 02:38 PM
lolz...no, beards aren't banned in Egypt. Why would they be?
Posted 11 November 2004 - 03:22 PM
Posted 11 November 2004 - 06:08 PM
Yes a friend told me also you can get put in jail just for having a beard.
Posted 11 November 2004 - 11:27 PM
There are some HT bros fom the UK in prison over there, aren't there? And Al-Ikhwan are banned over there, right? Naively, I'd have thought that Muslim groups wouldn't be banned like that in Muslim countries. If I remember correctly, they make a note of people who are going to the Masjid for Fajr as people to keep an eye on apparently.
Posted 13 November 2004 - 04:21 PM
how are you all, i guess HT means the hizbu, right, yes they are in jail here, and ofcourse Ikhwan muslimeen is banned from egypt, that's why amr khaled was kicked out, and lots of others.
For the bread matter, ofcourse they are not welcomed here by the gov. and for the majority of muslims here u'd be extremist, and I was speaking to my freinds the other day about having a wife, and she should be having niqaab, they are a smaple of the majorty here, doing the fard, they were like , r u an extremist now ? does Islam tell u that ? u want to scare people ?
and one of them did haj the year before, he said he doughts that the hijab is a fard, its only when women pary they have to wear it.
So we got lots of sorts of muslims here.
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Posted 13 November 2004 - 04:37 PM
Okay- so they're frowned upon but not banned right? Cuz i see lots of men with beards here...hmm, odd. Nobody should ever be put in jail for having a beard...especially because it's sunnah to have one
*sigh* but i get what you mean when you say the majority think that they're extremists. My how society has changed...instead of praising people for their good, we look down upon them.
Posted 13 November 2004 - 05:04 PM
aslong as u have a beard, then u must be knowldegable about Islam, so that make's an eye on u, and what u say, that's why the ikhwan dont have beards on, it keep the eye of the gov. away from them until they know there ikhwan from another source, and then they get locked up.
Do u think they care if it is a sunnah !!! noway, u see the matter is like this, Islam wakes muslims up, and they start to look around them, and mainly start asking what's the gov. doing right and wrong, and for sure they dont want that.
They only want the muslims here to only care about there daily life matter and dont interfear with anything else, so Islam here is only u can pary, fast, zakah, haj.
So the beard for the gov. is like muslims are wakeing up, and that's a no no here, and u got my piont for the majorty of mulims here, u'll be extremist.
U know what, when the local TV here shows a searies, if a guy shows up with a beard, head cover and a white jilbab then he's a terorist. and just to make sure,
So its just an Indirect Formal Way ( loacl TV ) for say no for Islam.
Posted 13 November 2004 - 05:44 PM
Wow...so much is going on here and i didn't even know it! I can now understand the justification for it ...but i don't exactly agree with it. Ikhwan? Sorry i might sound naive..but what exactly is that? Is it some sort of fanatic organization?
Grr- and the local tv is horrible..it's not often you see a properly (islamically)dressed woman on it. No, instead we have women with fake blonde hair and tons of make-up...sorry, i'm ranting now.
And also...you mentioned that having a beard meant that you have knowledge about Islam, and then you went on to say that this meant you had the governments eye on you. See thats just what i mean-it's horrible when it gets to the point where, whats good is bad. *sigh* can't really explain it...like when it gets to the point where every guy with a beard is a suspected of being a terrorist...even though they might just be knowledgable about their deen.
Posted 13 November 2004 - 06:24 PM
so i guess u kinda got what i mean, but may i ask, r u living in egypt ? u dont know ikhwan muslimeen, le gama ?
Posted 13 November 2004 - 07:33 PM
Al-Ikhwaan Al-Muslimoon (The Muslim Brotherhood) are arguably not that radical. Founded by Imam Hasan Al-Banna (Grandfather of Tariq Ramadan who you might have heard of) who was assassinated because he was getting a little too much support. Easiest to do a search if you like for info.
Posted 16 November 2004 - 07:33 PM
No, i don't mind if you ask. Yes...i live here in Egypt- but this is only my second year. I've lived abroad my whole life- so i don't really know much about my country. I will [img]"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_www.google(contact admin if its a beneficial link)"]google[/url] it though...it's scary that i didn't hear about this until just now!
Posted 16 November 2004 - 10:37 PM
So in Egypt, people are kicked out if they are a little to influencive Islamicly?? And how does the process of kicking out people go on about? Do they like send a letter and go like: Hi, you're a little too Islamic so please leave the country? I bet they're much more agressive than that.