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[elif74]

selam,

there is no topic about my country and i decided to open a new thread for turkey...i;ll post some photos

and if you have question i'll try to answer...

[Abu Zakariyah]

aslam waalikum,
i dont no if this is political but can you tell me whats the happening in east and west turkey, i heard that east turky was more religous and deprived of much of wealth were as the western part of turky is more secular and rich, ?
is it wise for a gruop of good looking bachelors go on holiday to turkey?
my freind and i want to go soon, but not sure.

Edited by slave, 22 November 2004 - 10:00 PM.

[Crystal Eyes]

aslam waalikum,
gruop of good looking bachelors

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this political part of turkey confused me...

[ahm]

aslam waalikum,
i dont no if this is political but can you tell me whats the happening in east and west turkey, i heard that east turky was more religous and deprived of much of wealth were as the western part of turky is more secular and rich, ?
is it wise for a gruop of good looking bachelors go on holiday to turkey?
my freind and i want to go soon, but not sure.

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Almost every time on the way to maghrib at sultan ahmet Masjid, we are approached by pimps (they thought we must have been arabs or something lol). After marghib we would go back to the hotel and chat with the hotel staff and share our food with them. They were amazed that we weren't out partying and going to belly dancing etc. Also we tried to speak as much turkish as possible which endeared us to the staff quite a lot lol

Turkey's nice and people are friendly. Even the police! I guess cause we were foreigners. Expect to spend about £20 a day, including hotel, food and travel in Istanbul. Basically get yourself the lonely planet guide to istanbul if you haven't already!.

:w:

[Introvert]

Y r turks so sensitive about their language? lol Is it derived from Arabic?

I don't like the wild side of Turkey. The Islamic culture is very lovely, very wonderful Masjids ^_^

[elif74]

selam,

begin from last question.....

yr so sensitive about language?...i think turks are all sensitive about their nation....so much nationalism...

turkish is come from arabic?...turkish is similar -not same- language w/ the turki nations...i mean turkmenestan, khirgizestan etc....turkish has long history...

but at ottoman era, ottomanish -the lang. they used- are affected both arabic and persian..but mostly arabic... they used arabic letters....

and w/ the revolution the letters we used changed to latin one....but it is still many words from arabic....for example, the words that begin w/ -m- letter are -almost all- arabic words...

and the Islamic terms are also arabic....ya it is affected so much....


ahm,

ya turkish people are so friendly....they even share their bread...here is too economic w/ respect to euro, dollars....i mean 1 dollar is almost 1500000 turkish liras. but w/ the new year....the lira will changed to new lira.... and it will become 1 000 000 lira = 1 new lira....

sultan ahmad Masjid this is what turks are called it, but i think tourists say blue Masjid -unsure- yes it is touristic place, but turkey's more beatiful places -believe me-....for example my favourite Masjid in istanbul is yildiz -star- mosque (i dont know how foreign people call it).... it is so lovely...and some part of its decoration looks like masjidi nabawi (the part that is built by ottomans near the prophets tomb).....

and view of the bosphorous, it is so different than the any sea view (bec. of the current i think)

there are so many places to visit....this is one of them...istanbul is too big, both population and land....i mean there are 20 000 000 people in istanbul (turkeys population is almost 72 000 000)
and between two end of the city you may go w/ car almost in 3 hour -if it does not have tooo much traffic-

anyway dont go anywhere....to be continued...

Edited by elif74, 24 November 2004 - 12:31 PM.

[Jihad4Jannah]

Is it derived from Arabic?

No it's not. I've been told that there are three original languages in the world, Arabic, Turkish and Latin. And all other languages have came from these three.

they even share their bread

I know, I can witness this thing. I remember how our neighbours took care of us, when I was child, around 3 or something. We were needy but believe or not, we lived two years in Turkey without paying electricity bills or our rent. Our neighbours paid them. They helped my dad to get job and earn money, and when we were moving to Europe they wept for us. My parents couldn't believe that there were such kind people on earth, Mashallah.

They didn't ever wait for our praise or other people's praise, they wanted just get a place in Jannah. And we pray Allah swt every day for it, Inshallah.

is it wise for a gruop of good looking bachelors go on holiday to turkey?

Nah, . What are you afraid about, brother?

[elif74]

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this political part of turkey confused me...

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me either.... (w00t)

[elif74]

aslam waalikum,
i dont no if this is political but can you tell me whats the happening in east and west turkey, i heard that east turky was more religous and deprived of much of wealth were as the western part of turky is more secular and rich, ?
is it wise for a gruop of good looking bachelors go on holiday to turkey?
my freind and i want to go soon, but not sure.

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selam,

"turky", ya its better than the chincken like creature
east turkey -especially south eastern part- are deprived of much of wealth??....thats true...lack of job opportunities....pkk problems....etc. made many people immigrate istanbul...so its tooo crowded like a country..but there are tribes at east part of the country and they are so rich...
customs are more important than religion for them...so i cant say they are more religious...they are religious bec. of their traditions say so....
and the western part more secular and rich...ya its true. but i should say...western is both more secular and more religious....thereare both kind of people...if they are religious thats not bec. of their traditions...

i guess the life is not easy at the south eastern.... you know this is the part of ardh-i mavdud (promised land).....and there is always problem at that area.....

and at the last government made lawful that "people from other countries can buy land easily, anywhere they want".....after this law become lawful, the jews bought lands totally as large as 100 000 futbol field....and jew women give birth their child at diyarbakir (the city at south east, but it is not not an important city to make this)..

i guess they have huge plans there......

[cheerio]

Assalamu alaikum

a turkish friend of mine once told me that Turkey is so secular that they make it so hard for muslims to practise their religion...is it true? my friend was so against the ruling government..

[Introvert]

Y is Turkey named after a poultry bird?

[elif74]

selam,

i actually dont know introvert but the word "turk" is so old..... even older than the america....and in turkish we do not call turkey, but turkiye it is different in english...
btw, in turkish "egypt" means "corn"...i guess it depends of the language, people talk..

[elif74]

Assalamu alaikum

a turkish friend of mine once told me that Turkey is so secular that they make it so hard for muslims to practise their religion...is it true? my friend was so against the ruling government..

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good question and hard to answer bro...ya turkey is so secular it is true...they especially want us to be moslem by name or traditionally....this is government politics...
for example they say "my grandma was covering her head w/ the scarf... but you are young you should not hicab yourselves".... this is the main idea of them...
if you stay at home w/ out doing anything it is ok...but if you want to go to univ. no you cant....
they banned the girls -who wear hicab- to study all the country...i guess 5000 girls are dismissed their universities, bec. of their head scarves....this law is legalized after i finished university.

[Abu Zakariyah]

aslam alikum,
mashallah,
but do you have organistations that teach hijabis who cant be taught higher education through mainstream?

[Jihad4Jannah]

for example they say "my grandma was covering her head w/ the scarf... but you are young you should not hicab yourselves".... this is the main idea of them...

Yea, there are people who thinks like that, but not everyone. For example, if you visit Fatih, (in Istanbul) you'll see mostly just Niqabis and men in Islamic suits. Even young ones have beard there.

[elif74]

selam,

i forgot to say, even the new government has known w/ their Islamic identity, didnt do anything for this law...

ya sis j4j, you are right....but i tell about the people who live in anatolia ...but in istanbul many people are moslem not by name. but they search for truth...

unfortunately not slave...they usually so hardworking and go outside for university especially america, austria...and this is better than for people who are suffering from the law.bec. they study better education plus learn foreign lang...but some organisations help people who want to go out...

[Jihad4Jannah]

but i tell about the people who live in anatolia

How about other cities? I've heard that Mersin is bad place

[Introvert]

How is Izmir like?

[Greek-Cypriot]

Arabic, Turkish and Latin. And all other languages have came from these three.

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Turkish is a member of the Turkish family of languages, which includes Balkan Gagauz Turkish, Gagauz, and Khorasani Turkish in addition to Turkish. The Turkish family is a subgroup of the Southern Turkic languages, themselves a subgroup of the Turkic languages, which some linguistics believe to be member of the disputed Altaic language family. Quite simply, like most languages it is a collation of ancient dialects that has formed into one main universally accepted grammatical system and a few smaller dialects (its familiarity should be noted when you go to different areas with different accents and slightly different words).

Arabic I believe is one of the oldest that is still around though I'm not too familiar with many of the different dialects relative to Arabic as there are so many - Aarabic is a semitic language first used in literary terms nearly 2 millenia ago though I'm also not too clear on the distinctions between classical Arabic and Modern Arabic, along with Turkish about 1 millienia ago and, you forgot Ancient Greek the basis for modern Greek which stretches back as far as 3200BC with the migration of proto-Greek speakers into Greece. Distinctions between Ancient Greek and Greek however are more noticeable yet they are still easy to comprehend for those who speak Greek. Oh and anyone who says the English language is kidding themselves, the English language just steals other languages words, its known as the 'mugger' language. Give me an English Word and I can trace its roots back to Greek or Latin or French or even German.

Sorry about such an off topic post, I've just been taking Linguistics Lectures recently and wanted to show off

[elif74]

selam,

sorry this is late reply....

i dont know much about mersin sis. and izmir it is the place that mostly jews live there.... and it is hard to talk about cities. maybe konya is religious but i dont know actually.....and the religion of us depends on the people's character and belief....

what i know is what i said you before sis.....

ovv it is good to see a friend from cyprus...welcome first , you are really good at turkish history... do you know turkish?????

btw do you have any friends from turk part of the island??????...