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[Anon]

"If you were an Arab and a linguist you might have realise how eminent the Quran's eloquency is."

If Islam is for all ppl why is it so important to be arab and a linguist?

What has being eloquant got to do with being right?

To quote Tom show me "hardfacts" not mumbo jumbo.

[vdtwo]

"If you were an Arab and a linguist you might have realise how eminent the Quran's eloquency is."

If Islam is for all ppl why is it so important to be arab and a linguist?

What has being eloquant got to do with being right?

To quote Tom show me "hardfacts" not mumbo jumbo.

hey hey I meant if you knew Arabic, by saying if you were an Arab (I didnt mean anything else-moreover Im a Turk ). Being a linguist or a philologist might make you realise the eloquence of the Quran, which is linked with is miraculous.
mumbo jumbo haha, what can I say? If you refuse and claim one of the major scholars work as mumbo jumbo, I must confess that I cant help you nor anyone can(I guess).

[Anon]

Again wot has eloquence got to do with being right?

Do u declare the writings u suggested i read to be "hardfacts", they are fables been used by all religons to get there point across. Not even unique.

Oh and btw do u denie i made the moon disappear last night?

[vdtwo]

Yes I denied like the other %100 percent of humanity does (except you I guess).

Again wot has eloquence got to do with being right? Now I see it is truelly pointless to explain smth to you. Since your lack of knowledge about the subject trammels me to explain smth to you.

so peace

[Anon]

U still havent shown how somethig written elequantly must be correct, many ppl consider shakespear eloquant, should we all follow him.

If it is impossible for u to explain then plz just say so.

As for me making the moon disappear, u claim 100% of humanity denie it, yet half the planet was bathed in sunlight at the time.

How many ppl were in doors and didnt look up at the moon, how many ppl were asleep all night and didnt see the moon?

Crazy isnt it, yet u claim when Allah did it, it was a miracle, well so was what i did. So u are still in denial despite what i have told u.

[vdtwo]

U still havent shown how somethig written elequantly must be correct, many ppl consider shakespear eloquant, should we all follow him.

Say: "If the whole of mankind and Jinns were to gather together to produce the like of this Qur'an, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they backed up each other with help and support. [17:88]



This is my last post...

Edited by vdtwo, 09 August 2006 - 09:41 PM.

[Subhaanallaah]

Peace Anon,

I made this thread not to fight BUT to show respect & proof of our Prophet Muhammad (SAW)

If you've any objections or something else thn I would advice you to open a new thread for it & you'll surely get good response there.

Again I'm requesting you not to fight in this thread. I hope you can understand.

Thnx a lot for your co-operation.

[Ahsan]

Thanks brother subhaanallah for enlightening us with the rich information. I just want to contribute by saying that I have seen people comparing and grading the prophets in terms of the miracles. For us, being the muslims, it is imperative to believe in all the miracles, the prophets (peace upon them) were given by Allah Almighty during their times, however the only difference, i want to bring forth is that all the miracles expired with the departure of the prophets (peace upon them) except Holy Quran, handed over to us by our master Muhammad (peace be upon him), which will remain with the mankind till the day of judgement and this is the only living miracle of our Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him). May our souls be sacrificed for his soul (Ameen).

[Zmarai310]

Islam is the truth.
Ya Allah this thread made my day perhaps my week. My favorite miracle is the wolf one. May Allah grant Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) The best position in Jannah, inshallah.

[Subhaanallaah]

Assalam Alaikum

Ameen.. ameen.. ameen.. ameen.. to all Duaas' here

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Assalam alaikum: http://baharemadinah.com/pdf/300MiraclesOfTheProphet.pdf More below isa

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إخباره عن المغيبات

Knowledge of the Unseen

He is the Knower of the Unseen and does not divulge His Unseen to anyone – except a Messenger with whom He is well pleased, and then He posts sentinels before him and behind him. (Surat al-Jinn: 26-27)

(1) أجاب النبيالسائل قبل أن يسأله :

كما جاء في الحديث التالي :عن وابصة بن معبد رضي الله عنه قال‏:‏
أتيت رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم فقال‏:‏ “جئت تسأل عن البر‏؟‏” قلت نعم، فقال‏:‏ ‏"‏استفت قلبك البر ما اطمأنت إليه النفس، واطمأن إليه القلب، والإثم ما حاك فى النفس وتردد فىالصدر، وإن أفتاك الناس وأفتوك” ‏(‏‏(‏حديث حسن، رواه أحمد والدارمي فى مسنديهما‏)‏‏)‏‏.‏

(1) Our Prophet gave answers before anyone asked the questions


Wabisah bin Ma'bad (May Allah be pleased with him) reported:
I went to Messenger of Allah () and he asked me, "Have you come to inquire about piety (devoutness-birr)?" I replied in the affirmative. Then he said, "Ask your heart regarding it. Piety is that which contents the soul and comforts the heart, and sin is that which causes doubts and perturbs the heart, even if people pronounce it lawful and give you verdicts on such matters again and again."

[Ahmad and Ad- Darmi].

http://sunnah.com/ri...ssaliheen/1#591

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(2) إخبار النبي أن غلامه غل شملة :

كما جاء في الحديث التالي :عن أبي هريرة رضي الله عنه قال : افتتحنا خيبر ، ولم نغنم ذهبا أو فضة ، انما غنمنا البقر والإبل والمتاع والحوائط ، ثم انصرفنا مع رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم إلى وادي القرى ، ومعه عبد له يقال له مدعم ، أهداه له أحد بني الضباب ، فبينما هو يحط رحل رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم إذ جاءه سهم عائر ، حتى أصاب ذلك العبد ، فقال الناس : هنيئا له الشهادة ، فقال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم : ( بل ، والذي نفسي بيده ، إن الشملة التي أصابها يوم خيبر من المغانم ، لم تصبها المقاسم ، لتشتعل عليه نارا ) فجاء رجل حين سمع ذلك من النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم بشراك أو بشراكين ، فقال : هذا شيء كنت أصبته ، فقال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم : ( شراك ، - أو شراكان - من نار

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(2) Our Prophet knew his boy has taken a cloth from Khaibar booties



Narrated Abu Huraira:
When we conquered Khaibar, we gained neither gold nor silver as booty, but we gained cows, camels, goods and gardens. Then we departed with Allah's Apostle to the valley of Al-Qira, and at that time Allah's Apostle had a slave called Mid`am who had been presented to him by one of Banu Ad-Dibbab. While the slave was dismounting the saddle of Allah's Apostle an arrow the thrower of which was unknown, came and hit him.
The people said, "Congratulations to him for the martyrdom." Allah's Apostle said, "No, by Him in Whose Hand my soul is, the sheet (of cloth) which he had taken (illegally) on the day of Khaibar from the booty before the distribution of the booty, has become a flame of Fire burning him." On hearing that, a man brought one or two leather straps of shoes to the Prophet and said, "These are things I took (illegally)." On that Allah's Apostle said, "This is a strap, or these are two straps of Fire."

http://sunnah.com/urn/138680

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(3) إخبار النبي بفتح جزيرة العرب ثم فارس ثم الروم :

كما جاء في الحديث التالي :
كنا مع رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم في غزوة . قال فأتى النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم قوم من قبل المغرب . عليهم ثياب الصوف . فوافقوه عند أكمة . فإنهم لقيام ورسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم قاعد . قال فقالت لي نفسي : ائتهم فقم بينهم وبينه . لا يغتالونه . قال : ثم قلت : لعله نجي معهم . فأتيتهم فقمت بينهم وبينه . قال فحفظت منه أربع كلمات . أعدهن في يدي . قال " تغزون جزيرة العرب ، فيفتحها الله . ثم فارس ، فيفتحها الله . ثم تغزون الروم ، فيفتحها الله . ثم تغزون الدجال ، فيفتحه الله " .

ولقد حدثت هذه الفتوحات كما قال النبي r , ويبقى فتح الدجال ، وسيقع الأمر فيه كما أخبرنا النبي r تماماً ، وسيكون ذلك آية أخرى لمن يشهدها في وقتها.

(3) He foretold the openings of Arabia, Persia, Romans and Dajjal

Nafi' b. Utba reported:
We were with Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) in an expedition that there came a people to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) from the direction of the west. They were dressed in woollen clothes and they stood near a hillock and they met him as Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) was sitting. I said to myself: Better go to them and stand between him and them that they may not attack him. Then I thought that perhaps there had been going on secret negotiation amongst them. I however, went to them and btood between them and him and I remember four of the words (on that occasion) which I repeat (on the fingers of my hand) that he (Allah's Messenger) said: You will attack Arabia and Allah will enable you to conquer it, then you would attack Persia and He would make you to Conquer it. Then you would attack Romans and Allah will open it, then you would attack the Dajjal and Allah will enable you to conquer him.

Muslims were victorious over Arabia, Persia, Romans lands and they will be victorious over Dajjal.

http://sunnah.com/urn/375040

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(4) إخبار النبي عن البعير الذي افتقده المشركون :

بعد معجزة الإسراء والمعراج كذبه المشركون , وكانوا قد افتقدوا بعيراً فقال لهم الرسول
) ..... فقال :" إن من آية ما أقول لكم أني مررت بعير لكم بمكان كذا وكذا قد أضلوا بعيرا لهم فجمعه فلان ، وإن مسيرهم ينزلون بكذا ثم بكذا ويأتونكم يوم كذا وكذا يقدمهم جمل آدم عليه مسح أسود وغِرارتان سوداوان"

، فلما كان ذلك اليوم أشرف الناس ينتظرون حتى كان قريب من نصف النهار حتى أقبلت العير يقدمهم ذلك الجمل الذي وصفه رسول الله .)

الراوي: شداد بن أوس المحدث: البيهقي - المصدر: دلائل النبوة - الصفحة أو الرقم: 2/355
خلاصة حكم المحدث: إسناده صحيح

آدم: أسمر

غِرارتان الغِرَارَةُ : وعاءٌ من الخيش ونحوه يوضع فيه القمحُ ونحوه

(4) He told Quraish about their caravan and a lost camel.

After the miracle of Al-israa wa almiraj, polytheists rejected/denied it , and they had missed a camel Prophet said to them:
" A sign of what i say is that I passed by your caravan in such-and-such a place, they had a camel that they lost, then so-and-so peron found it. And they will pass by such-and-such place and will arrive at such-and-such day , headed by a brownish camel on which was a black hair-cloth and two blackish containers."
When the promised day came, people were waiting till about the noon, They saw the caravans in the same state as the Prophet had informed them headed by the camel described by the Messanger of God .

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(5) إخبار النبي عن أويس بن عامر :

كما جاء في الحديث التالي :
كان عمر بن الخطاب ، إذا أتى عليه أمداد أهل اليمن ، سألهم : أفيكم أويس بن عامر ؟ حتى أتى على أويس . فقال : أنت أويس بن عامر ؟ قال : نعم . قال : من مراد ثم من قرن ؟ قال : نعم . قال : فكان بك برص فبرأت منه إلا موضع درهم ؟ قال : نعم . قال : لك والدة ؟ قال : نعم . قال : سمعت رسول الله يقول " يأتي عليكم أويس بن عامر مع أمداد أهل اليمن من مراد ، ثم من قرن . كان به برص فبرأ منه إلا موضع درهم . له والدة هو بها بر . لو أقسم على الله لأبره . فإن استطعت أن يستغفر لك فافعل " . فاستغفر لي . فاستغفر له . فقال له عمر : أين تريد ؟ قال : الكوفة . قال : ألا أكتب لك إلى عاملها ؟ قال : أكون في غبراء الناس أحب إلي . قال : فلما كان من العام المقبل حج رجل من أشرافهم . فوافق عمر . فسأله عن أويس . قال : تركته رث البيت قليل المتاع . قال : سمعت رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم يقول " يأتي عليكم أويس بن عامر مع أمداد أهل اليمن من مراد ثم من قرن . كان به برص فبرأ منه . إلا موضع درهم . له والدة هو بها بر . لو أقسم على الله لأبره . فإن استطعت أن يستغفر لك فافعل " فأتى أويسا فقال : استغفر لي . قال : أنت أحدث عهدا بسفر صالح . فاستغفر لي . قال : استغفر لي . قال : أنت أحدث عهدا بسفر صالح . فاستغفر لي . قال : لقيت عمر ؟ قال : نعم . فاستغفر له . ففطن له الناس . فانطلق على وجهه . قال أسير : وكسوته بردة . فكان كلما رآه إنسان قال : من أين لأويس هذه البردة ؟ )

(5) He told his companions about Uwais Ibn Amer:

When people from Yemen came to help (the Muslim army at the time of war) Umar Ibn Alkhattab asked them:
Is there amongst you Uwais b. 'Amir?
(He continued finding him out) until he met Uwais. He said: Are you Uwais b., Amir? He said: Yes.
He said: Are you from the tribe of Qaran? He said: Yes.
He (Hadrat) 'Umar (again) said: Did you suffer from leprosy and then you were cured from it but for the space of a dirham? He said: Yes.
He ('Umar) said: Is your mother (living)? He said: Yes.
He ('Umar) said: I heard Allah's Messenger say:

There would come to you Uwais b. Amir with the reinforcement from the people of Yemen. (He would be) from Qaran, (the branch) of Murid. He had been suffering from leprosy from which he was cured but for a spot of a dirham. His treatment with his mother would have been excellent. If he were to take an oath in the name of Allah, He would honour that. And if it is possible for you, then do ask him to beg forgiveness for you (from your Lord).

So he (Uwais) begged forgiveness for him. Umar said: Where do you intend to go? He said: To Kufa. He ('Umar) said: Let me write a letter for you to its governor, whereupon he (Uwais) said: I love to live amongst the poor people. When it was the next year, a person from among the elite (of Kufa) performed Hajj and he met Umar. He asked him about Uwais. He said: I left him in a state with meagre means of sustenance. (Thereupon) Umar said: I heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: There would come to you Uwais b. 'Amir, of Qaran, a branch (of the tribe) of Murid, along with the reinforcement of the people of Yemen. He had been suffering from leprosy which would have been cured but for the space of a dirham. His treatment with his mother would have been very kind. If he would take an oath in the name of Allah (for something) He would honour it. Ask him to beg forgiveness for you (from Allah) in case it is possible for you. So he came to Uwais and said.: Beg forgiveness (from Allah) for me. He (Uwais) said: You have just come from a sacred journey (Hajj) ; you, therefore, ask forgiveness for me. He (the person who had performed Hajj) said: Ask forgiveness for me (from Allah). He (Uwais again) said: You have just come from the sacred journey, so you ask forgiveness for me. (Uwais further) said: Did you meet Umar? He said: Yes. He (Uwais) then begged forgiveness for him (from Allah). So the people came to know about (the status of religious piety) of Uwais. He went away (from that place). Usair said: His clothing consisted of a mantle, and whosoever saw him said: From where did Uwais get this mantle?


http://sunnah.com/urn/366940

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(6) إخباره بأنه إذا هلك كسرى فلا كسرى بعده، وإذا هلك قيصر فلا قيصر بعده :

كما جاء في الحديث التالي :
قال رسول الله : ( إذا هلك كسرى فلا كسرى بعده ، وإذا هلك قيصر فلا قيصر بعده ، والذي نفس محمد بيده ، لتنفقن كنوزهما في سبيل الله)

وقد وقع الأمر تماماً كما قال فإنه لم يأت بعد كسرى كسرى غيره، ولما هدمت دولة القياصرة فلم تقم لهم دولة بعد ذلك وإلى يومنا هذا.

فأي دليل أعظم من هذا الدليل على أن النبي يحدث بالوحي الذي لا يعلمه إلا الله، فإنه لم يكن يتصور أحد أن دولة الأكاسرة التي استمرت نحو ألف عام أن يكون سقوطها وزوالها بأيدي المسلمين، وأن الأكاسرة لا يستطيعون، وإلى قيام الساعة أن يعيدوا ملكهم مرة ثانية .

(6) Conquering the lands held by Byzantium and Persia:

"If Caesar is ruined, there will be no Caesar after him; and if Khosrau is ruined, there will be no Khosrau, after him; and, by Him in Whose Hand my soul is, surely you will spend their treasures in Allah's Cause.".

Kisra was the word used for the ancient Persian kings, and Qaysar was the designation of the Byzantine emperor.

When our Prophet announced this good news, the Muslims were not in a position, as regards their military strength and economic and political organization, to achieve such a major victory. Besides, at that time, Persia and Byzantium were the region's strongest states. However, during Umar's (ca) caliphate, Byzantine was defeated and no other Kisra emerged.

Before the death of Heraclius, the Caesar of the time, in 641, his treasury passed into Muslims' hands as the Muslim armies began to conquer Byzantium's major centers during the reigns of the four rightly guided caliphs.

http://sunnah.com/urn/157430

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(7) إخباره بفساد بعض أحوال المسلمين وقتالهم بعضهم بعضاً بعد فتح فارس والروم :

كما جاء في الحديث التالي :
إذا فتحت عليكم فارس والروم ، أي قوم أنتم ؟ " قال عبد الرحمن بن عوف : نقول كما أمرنا الله . قال رسول الله " أو غير ذلك . تتنافسون . ثم تتحاسدون . ثم تتدابرون . ثم تتباغضون . أو نحو ذلك . ثم تنطلقون في مساكين المهاجرين ، فتجعلون بعضهم على رقاب بعض . ) )

وللأسف فقد حدث ما أخبر به الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم، وقتل المهاجرين والأنصار بعضهم بعضاً في موقعتي الجمل وصفين ... فإنا لله وإنا إليه راجعون

(7)He told about corruption of some muslims matters after openings of Persia and Romans

'Abdullah b. 'Amr b. al-As reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said:

How would you be,0 people. when Persia and Rome would be conquered for you?
'Abd at-Rahman b Auf said: We would say as Allah has commanded us and we would express our gratitude to Allah
Thereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Nothing else besides it? You would (in fact) vie with one another, then you would feel jealous. then your relations would be estranged and then you will bear enmity against one another. or something to the same effect. Then you would go to the poor emigrants and would make some the masters of the others (make them killing each others).

and this happened as in battles of Jamal 656CE and Siffin 657CE.
http://sunnah.com/urn/376540

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(8) إخباره صلى الله عليه وسلم عن أسرع أزواجه لحاقًا به :

كما جاء في الحديث التالي :
أسرعكن لحاقا بي ، أطولكن يدا . قالت : فكن يتطاولن أيتهن أطول يدا . قالت : فكانت أطولنا يدا زينب . لأنها كانت تعمل بيدها وتصدق . )

قولها : ( قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم : أسرعكن لحاقا بي أطولكن يدا فكن يتطاولن أيتهن أطول يدا قالت : فكانت أطولنا يدا زينب ; لأنها كانت تعمل بيدها وتصدق ) معنى الحديث أنهن ظنن أن المراد بطول اليد طول اليد الحقيقية ، وهي الجارحة ، فكن يذرعن أيديهن بقصبة ، فكانت سودة أطولهن جارحة ، وكانت زينب أطولهن يدا في الصدقة وفعل الخير ، فماتت زينب أولهن ، فعلموا أن المراد طول اليد في الصدقة والجود

8)He told about the first of his wives to die after him

'A'isha, the Mother of the Faithful, reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said:
One who has the longest hands amongst you would meet me most immediately.
She farther said: They (the wives of Allah's Apostle) used to measure the hands as to whose hand was the longest and it was the hand of Zainab that was the longest amongst them, as she used to work with her hand and Spend (that income) on charity.

http://sunnah.com/urn/365080

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(9) إخباره عن استشهاد القادة الثلاثة في غزوة مؤته قبل مجيء خبرهم

كما جاء في الحديث التالي : عن أنس بن مالك رضي الله عنه قال : أن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم نعى زيدا وجعفرا وابن رواحة للناس قبل أن يأتيهم خبرهم ، فقال : ( أخذ الراية زيد فأصيب ، ثم أخذها جعفر فأصيب ، ثم أخذ بن رواحة فأصيب ) . وعيناه تذرفان : ( حتى أخذها سيف من سيوف الله ، حتى فتح الله عليهم

(9) He had informed about the martyrdom of Zaid, Ja`far and Ibn Rawaha before the news of their death reached .
Narrated Anas:

The Prophet had informed the people about the death of Zaid, Ja`far and Ibn Rawaha before the news of their death reached them. He said with his eyes flowing with tears, "Zaid took the flag and was martyred; then Ja`far took the flag and was martyred, and then Ibn Rawaha took the flag and was martyred. Finally the flag was taken by one of Allah's Swords (i.e. Khalid bin Al-Walid) and Allah gave them (i.e. the Muslims) victory."

(Prophet was in Madina during Mu'tah battle)

http://sunnah.com/bukhari/62#105