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[chelsea89]

I think the biggest problem I have with most religions is the position of women. I myself am a selfsufficient, outspoken, intelligent woman and cannot see myself under a man. Especially because many are immature and primal in nature (i.e their major thoughts are of, food, sex, and dominance). That said I can see working together, as my husband and I do through compromise. How are woman or this equal position seen in Islam?

[AHMAD_73]

I think the biggest problem I have with most religions is the position of women. I myself am a selfsufficient, outspoken, intelligent woman and cannot see myself under a man. Especially because many are immature and primal in nature (i.e their major thoughts are of, food, sex, and dominance). That said I can see working together, as my husband and I do through compromise. How are woman or this equal position seen in Islam?

i'm sory sister, i have to leave now, it's too late in my country. while untell i can try to answer you, you need to clarify some points for your self and for us:

1- what is your main goal in the life?
2- Do you believe in the hereafter?
3- Do you think, generally, dealing with people suppose to be on the basis of Equality or Justice?
4- What do you think about adultery, or se.x out of marriage?

I hope you will find the right way,

[chelsea89]

i'm sory sister, i have to leave now, it's too late in my country. while untell i can try to answer you, you need to clarify some points for your self and for us:

1- what is your main goal in the life?
2- Do you believe in the hereafter?
3- Do you think, generally, dealing with people suppose to be on the basis of Equality or Justice?
4- What do you think about adultery, or se.x out of marriage?

I hope you will find the right way,

1. I want to be happy, find hope, and peace.
2. I do.
3. Yes, but Im not naive enough to believe the world will ever work in this manner and as such deal only with the concept within my family. (i.e. my husband and I have a mutual say and no one has the ultimate say)
4. No.

[Mercyonmankind]

I think the biggest problem I have with most religions is the position of women. I myself am a selfsufficient, outspoken, intelligent woman and cannot see myself under a man. Especially because many are immature and primal in nature (i.e their major thoughts are of, food, sex, and dominance). That said I can see working together, as my husband and I do through compromise. How are woman or this equal position seen in Islam?

The best option is to compromise.
In Islam it is the duty of Husband to maintain his wife and his children. If someone wife wants to work, and husband agrees with it, I don't see anything wrong with it.
I guess for women to work, it has to be in a place which is in accordance with sharia law, ie working with other women (not men).
That is just to protect the women chastity and same applies to men.
However due to different cultures, you might come across different opinions which would not be in the interest of women.

The status of women being equal to men in terms of maintaining and providing the needs of family depends on the individual person. One man might accept the status of wife being equal to him, but another man wont (religion won't make any difference in this case).

[chelsea89]

That is a good way to look at it. Another question now... If I were to convert and my husband is not Muslim, what then?

[Wesley]

The best option is to compromise.
In Islam it is the duty of Husband to maintain his wife and his children. If someone wife wants to work, and husband agrees with it, I don't see anything wrong with it.
I guess for women to work, it has to be in a place which is in accordance with sharia law, ie working with other women (not men).
That is just to protect the women chastity and same applies to men.
However due to different cultures, you might come across different opinions which would not be in the interest of women.

The status of women being equal to men in terms of maintaining and providing the needs of family depends on the individual person. One man might accept the status of wife being equal to him, but another man wont (religion won't make any difference in this case).

There are many things to consider about the "individual" mercyonmankind mentions. You will see some Hadith which says women are deficient in religion and intelligence, wives are cursed by angels if she doesn't sleep with her husband, and that the majority of those in Hell are women. I won't comment on my personal views; however, how much weight and influence statements like this have as compared to the various guidances of the Qur'an and other concepts of equality will determine how that individual will view his wife(s) or possible wife(s).

[Mercyonmankind]

I believe the marriage becomes void if a women converts to Islam. If her husband convert to Islam aswell, then they have to take vows again.
Read the following verse and decide for yourself.. I hope someone put someone more light on this.. Allah knows best..

“O ye who believe, when there come to you believing women refugees examine (and test) them: Allah knows best as to their faith: if ye ascertain that they are believers, then send them not back to the unbelievers they are not lawful (wives) for the unbelievers, not are the (unbelievers) lawful (husbands) for them. But pay the unbelievers what they have spent (on their dower).” [Sûrah al-Mumtahinah: 10]

Edited by Mercyonmankind, 14 November 2011 - 06:30 AM.

[AHMAD_73]

I think the biggest problem I have ..........

I believe you have seen and hear a lot about Islam from non-Moslems. For the Moslems bad luck 90% of all kinds of media in the US are controlled by people who like to disgrace Islam. Despite all of this Islam is the fastest spreading religion in the world with growth rate 5-6 times faster than any other religion, and most of the new Moslems are women

you have to give the Moslems a fair chance to defend themselves. and be sure the Moslems have the most logic, reasonable code of life.
basically keep an eye on the whole picture, the major points (concept of god, prophets, life and death meanings, social relations,.....) and compare with other religions too.

you may find some prejudiced people here who have no aim in life but to disgrace Islam, he can't see in the flourishing garden except thorns. for you try to see the whole picture.

There are many things to consider about the "individual" mercyonmankind mentions. You will see some Hadith which says women are deficient in religion and intelligence,

first i believe that is not accurate translation of the Hadeeth. " ....ناقصات عقل و دين...." . in Arabic "ناقصات" It's not deficient, but "lesser" . while "عقل" means wise or stable (not easily emotionally affected), the verb "عَـقَـلَ" means to "tie down, fix". and that's the reality the women are more emotional/sensitive than men that gave them more mercy and patience and that's a great advantages if used in the right place.

That's exactly what any medical book will tell, the men have some more physical and mental advantages to face more difficult life.

and that's why you may not find many women work as aircraft fighters/ army fighters / welding under water/ mining/.......
and that's Why we don't have a mixed football or soccer or boxing, ...... , completions until now?
The women are playing alone far away from men and vise versa............... and naturally there is no equality here but fairness and justice which is better for both.

The Moslem women is lesser in religion because, she don't have to perform the Islamic worshipping activities 30 days a month, but 24-26 due to the mins vacation. So it's some thing about the quantity not the quality. So it's not there problem.

The differences between man and woman and the relative advantages of both make them in most need to integrate each other, that will lead to more stable and happy family.

no Moslem can say one of them (men/women) is better than the other. not the strong, hansom, and smart man is better than the others, nor the pretty woman is better than the non-pretty.
The differentiation between people not by shape , wealth, health, se.x, color, nationality, education level, ………, while it have to be by their good deeds, how he/she scarifies for the others, in fact it's some thing in the heart

wives are cursed by angels if she doesn't sleep with her husband,

the Quran tells about the man and his wife "...And women shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable..." 2-228
i can't see any reson for a woman to refuse here husband requist, if she have no reason. and of course vise versa according to the verse.
in that specific issue, refusing for only refusing is not a good idea, and may lead to a bad consequances (he/she will try to find the substitute, i think the west know more about it)

while in case of any reasonabe reason, Allah tells in the Quran "002.286 Y: On no soul doth Allah Place a burden greater than it can bear....." and tells "002.195 Y: ......... and make not your own hands contribute to (your) destruction; ........". he/she have the right to refuse and politly explain the reason

on the contrary, if they have real love, they will try even to overcome the difficulties and bear loads instead of each other.

and that the majority of those in Hell are women. ,

the Hdeeth don't tell "Magority" but "more" which in Arabic "أكثر" .
and if we imagine since the time of Adam to the end of days there are "shankilion" persons (which is very big number) will get to the hill. it's sooo diffecult to be the number of men = munber of women. it have to be one of them is more even by one person. which happened to be women

I won't comment on my personal views; however, how much weight and influence statements like this have as compared to the various guidances of the Qur'an and other concepts of equality will determine how that individual will view his wife(s) or possible wife(s).

if there is a complete absolute religion can refute every misunderstand it will be Islam.
but for some one who asks about Islam, there are many large areas to discover besides the difficult or the misunderstood points

wesley, can't you see any, any, good issue in Islam. not one relative advantage over other religions??
why do you think Islam have that growth rate?

may Allah show all of us the right way that pleases him, all mighty

Edited by AHMAD_73, 14 November 2011 - 11:43 AM.

[Absolute truth]

welcome here chelsea89

Equality of Men and Woman in Islam, and their complementary nature to one another

In one sense, equality between men and women is possible and reasonable because they are both human, with similar souls, brains, hearts, lungs, limbs, etc. In another sense, equality between men and women is impossible and an absurdity due to their natural differences in physical, mental, emotional and psychological qualities, inclinations and abilities. Between these two we must tread to illuminate how they are equal, and how they are complimentary.

If total equality between all members of the same gender is impossible due to natural differences in strengths and other qualities, regardless of whether the gender is masculine or feminine, then it is definitely impossible between the two genders. Allah, the Exalted and Almighty, says in the Glorious Qur'an:

(And of everything We have created pairs, that you may remember (the Grace of Allah).)

[51:49]

Even atoms exhibit this dual quality with inter-related and complementary roles played by the positive and negative particles and ions, yet each is an integral part of the whole system of the so called binary basis of all life. Most living beings have male and female sexes for reproduction. As the science of biology teaches us, all mammals have similar traits in their molecular and glandular structures that determine differences in gender. These basic physical, psychological and sexual traits have their definite effects on other spheres of life.

It is natural for a man to need and find fulfillment with a woman and for a woman with a man, since they are created one from the other and for one another. They both are inseparably bound to each other. Neither can they find fulfillment except when in the company of the other as legal and honorable mate and spouse, as Allah (The Almighty) says in His Majestic Book, the Qur'an, mentioned in the two verses cited in the preface:

(O Mankind! We have created you from a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know one another. Verily, the most honorable of you in the Sight of Allah is the believer who has Taqwa (piety and righteousness). Verily, Allah is All-Knowing, All-Aware.)

[49:13]

In many instances Islam treats women as equals to men. Some of them are given below. In the coming sections we will expand on these themes in various contexts throughout the book.
1) Eqaulity in Basic Humanity

Both the male and the female are equal in terms of their humanity. Islam does not categorize women, for instance, as the source of evil in the world for some & original sin that caused Adam (Peace be Upon Him) to be dismissed from Paradise, or to be the cause of evil in the world by setting loose a Pandora's box of vices, as some other religious doctrines and fables teach.

Allah, the Exalted and Almighty, states in the Glorious Qur'an:

(O mankind! Be dutiful to your Lord, Who created you from a single person (Adam), and from him (Adam) He created his wife (Eve), and from them both He created many men and women...)

[4:1]

Allah also states in the Glorious Qur'an:

(Does man think that he will be left neglected without being punished or rewarded for the obligatory duties enjoined by his Lord (Allah) on him? Was he not a mixed male and female discharge of semen pouring forth? Then he became a clot; then (Allah) shaped and fashioned (him) in due proportion, and made him into two sexes, male and female. Is He not able to raise to life those who are dead?)

[75:36-40]

Allah illustrated in the verses that He created both sexes from one single source. There is no difference between the two sexes in terms of qualifications in humanity, and each complements the other as the two genders of the species. Islam has abolished and abrogated all the previous unjust laws that demoted women as inferior in quality and nature. The Prophet of Allah (Peace be Upon Him) said:

Verily, women are the twin halves of men.

[Abu Dawood #234 , Tirmidhi #113 & others]
2) Equality in Religious Obligations

Equal religious duties and rituals are required from both women and men. Testimony of Faith (Shahaadah), Prayer (Salah), Obligatory Charity (Zakah), Fasting (Saum), and Pilgrimage (Hajj) are equally required of both genders. In some cases the requirements are a bit easier on women to alleviate their special cases of hardship. For instance, in consideration of her health and physical condition, menstruating women or a woman in the state of postnatal bleeding and recuperation are absolved from the duty of prayers and fasting. She is required to make up the days of fasting missed due to menses and postnatal bleeding, but not her prayers, as that would be too burdensome.
3) Equality in Rewards and Punishments

Both males and females have similar rewards for obedience and penalties for disobedience in this world and the Hereafter. As stated by Allah in the Glorious Qur'an:

(Whoever does righteous acts, whether male or female, while he is a believer, verily, to him We will give a good life, and We shall pay them certainly a reward in proportion to the best of what they used to do.)

[16:97]

And the Lord Most Majestic says:

(Surely for men who submit to Allah and for women who submit to Allah, for believing men and for believing women, for devout men and devout women, for truthful men and truthful women, for steadfast men and steadfast women, for humble men and humble women, for charitable men and charitable women, for fasting men and fasting women, for men who guard their chastity and women who guard their chastity, for men who remember Allah much and for women who remember Allah much, for all of them Allah has prepared forgiveness and a mighty reward.)

[33:35]
4) Equality in Preservation of Honor and Nobility

Women have the same moral obligations and are entitled to the same general rights as men in guarding chastity, integrity and personal honor and respect, etc. No double standards are allowed. For instance, those who falsely accuse a chaste woman of adultery or fornication are publicly punished, just as if a man is slandered. Allah, the Exalted, states in the Glorious Qur'an:

(And those who accuse chaste women, and produce not four witnesses, flog them with eighty lashes, and reject their testimony forever. Indeed, they are those who are disobedient to Allah.)

[24:4]
5) Equality in Financial Dealings and Property Ownership

Women are equally qualified and allowed to engage in financial dealings and property ownership. According to Islamic law women can own, buy, sell and undertake any financial transaction without the need for guardianship, and without any restrictions or limitations - a situation unheard of in many societies until modern times.
6) Best of you is the Best to his Womenfolk

Islam indicates that a man who honors, respects and deals with women justly and integrally, possesses a healthy and righteous personality, whereas a man who mistreats them is an unrighteous and unrespectable man. The Prophet of Allah (Peace be Upon Him) said:

The most complete believer is the best in character, and the best of you is the best to his womenfolk.

[Tirmidhi #1162 and verified]
7) Equality in Education and Cultivation

Islam entitles women to the same rights as men in terms of education and cultivation. The Prophet of Allah (Peace be Upon Him) said, as reported and authenticated by the scholars of prophetic traditions:

Seeking knowledge is compulsory for each and every Muslim (i.e. both male and female).

[Ibn Majah #224 al-Baihaqi and verified]

Muslim scholars collectively agreed that the word Muslim when used in revealed scriptures includes both male and female, as we indicated in parenthesis. Thus, Islam entitles women to the same right of education in order to understand the religious and social obligations, and obligated them both to raise their children in the best manner, in accordance with the right Islamic guidance. Of course women have certain obligations in bringing up their children that are commensurate to their abilities and men have complementary obligations to finance, protect and maintain according to their added responsibilities in the family unit.

The Prophet (Peace be Upon Him) said:

Whoever takes care of two girls until they reach puberty, he and I will come on the Day of Resurrection like this.” The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) then joined his fingers to illustrate this.

[Muslim #2631]

About female slave girls, the Prophet of Allah (Peace be Upon Him) said:

Whoever has a female child with him (under his guardianship from slavery), and trains her in the best behavior, and teaches her well, and then frees and marries her, will have a double reward.

[Bukhari #97 & Muslim #154 ]
8) Equality in Social Responsiblities

Men and women have similar obligations and responsibilities to reform and correct the society to the best of their capability. Men and women shoulder the responsibility of enjoining good and forbidding evil equally, as Allah, the Exalted, states in the Qur'an:

(The believers, men and women, are helpers, supporters, friends and protectors of one another, they enjoin all that is good, and forbid all that is evil, they offer their prayers perfectly, and give Zakah (Obligatory Charity) and obey Allah and His Messenger. Allah will bestow Mercy on them. Surely Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise.)

[9:71]
9) Right to Receive Fair Share of Wealth

Men and women have set and determined rights to receive their fair share of wealth, just as they are obliged to give Zakah (Obligatory Charity) according to the set calculation. All Muslim scholars unanimously agree upon this. A woman has her set share of inheritance, as will be discussed in more detail later, which was a right unthinkable in many societies.

Allah (The Almighty) says:

(There is a share for men from what is left by parents and those closely related, and there is a share for women from what is left by parents and those closely related, whether the wealth be small or large: a legal mandatory share.)

[4:7]
10) A woman, just like a man, can give someone the right of seeking refuge and security among the Muslims

Allah, the Exalted, says:

(And if one of the polytheists seeks refuge, give him until he hears the words of Allah, then take him to his place of security.)

The Messenger of Allah (Peace be Upon Him) said:

And the protection of Muslims is one, and the least among them can give protection; and whoever usurps the right of a Muslim then the curse of Allah and His angels and all the people is upon him, and no repentance or ransom will be accepted from him

[Bukhari #3008]

This is also proven by the famous story of Um Hani' (Mother of Hani') when she gave protection to a polytheist who sought refuge with her on the day of the conquest of Makkah after her relative threatened to kill that person (for some past enmity) so the Messenger of Allah (Peace be Upon Him) said,

We protect and give asylum to whomever you give asylum O Um Hani'.

[Bukhari #350]

These are just some of the rights, mentioned here as examples in a summarized way to indicate the comprehensive nature of the Islamic jurisprudence.

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[AHMAD_73]

That is a good way to look at it. Another question now... If I were to convert and my husband is not Muslim, what then?

as the brother answered,

but why not if you began to find some good issues in Islam to discuss them with your husband, and go together
if you love each other, you have ,really, to think about the eternal life, the real god who creates you, the real happiness in this shoooort life and in the hereafter

may Allah show you the real happiness way

[Wesley]

I believe the marriage becomes void if a women converts to Islam. If her husband convert to Islam aswell, then they have to take vows again.
Read the following verse and decide for yourself.. I hope someone put someone more light on this.. Allah knows best..

“O ye who believe, when there come to you believing women refugees examine (and test) them: Allah knows best as to their faith: if ye ascertain that they are believers, then send them not back to the unbelievers they are not lawful (wives) for the unbelievers, not are the (unbelievers) lawful (husbands) for them. But pay the unbelievers what they have spent (on their dower).” [Sûrah al-Mumtahinah: 10]

Just because a person is a Jew, such as your husband, would not automatically qualify him as an unbeliever, contrary to popular thought.

69. Those who believe (in the Qur'án), those who follow the Jewish (Scriptures), and the Sabians and the Christians, any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

(The Qur'an (Yusuf Ali tr), Surah 5)

For a fuller Qur'an study of who the Unbelievers are, follow this link. (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetgawaher(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/index.php?showtopic=737198"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetgawaher(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/index.php?showtopic=737198[/url]
Personally, it is not up to any person to make that determination through a forum who has no knowledge of your husband, his beliefs, his practices, etc. Just ask, do you believe in God and the Last Day? Does he work righteousness? Perhaps he is on the right path.

[chelsea89]

as the brother answered,

but why not if you began to find some good issues in Islam to discuss them with your husband, and go together
if you love each other, you have ,really, to think about the eternal life, the real god who creates you, the real happiness in this shoooort life and in the hereafter

may Allah show you the real happiness way

He isn't nearly as concerned with his eternity or finding peace as I am. Ive suffered much in my life, and his has been close to perfect, thus there is no need, in his reasoning, for God when everything is perfect. Why fix whats not broken? Also we have 3 children and I cannot safely carry anymore. Our final child was 3.5lbs at birth and all 3 were Csections so if I got remarried I wouldn't be able to bear children for my husband. Would that be a problem?

[chelsea89]

He is neither Jewish nor Christian, rather agnostic until hes in trouble and he fancies Buddhism.

[AHMAD_73]

He isn't nearly as concerned with his eternity or finding peace as I am. Ive suffered much in my life, and his has been close to perfect, thus there is no need, in his reasoning, for God when everything is perfect. Why fix whats not broken? Also we have 3 children and I cannot safely carry anymore. Our final child was 3.5lbs at birth and all 3 were Csections so if I got remarried I wouldn't be able to bear children for my husband. Would that be a problem?

in fact, sister i'm Egyptian and not familiar with the American laws, but generally,

Divorce in Islam is allowed as last resort, but before that, you are recommended to have some kind of "relation reform meetings" with the presence of the wise men of both families or the area or work or those you both trust.

if you think there is one small hope, don't waste it. why not try to find any neer by knowladgabe Moslem comunity, and they will try to advise him or direct him to that forum for discussions, Allah can change any person withen seconds.

if you decided to be a Moslem you are obligated to marry only Moslems.

as a brother in humanity, since you are not yet a Moslem, you have to accuritly caculate the benifits and the dis-advantages (finantial, house, children, happiness,...) and then decide

may Allah show you the right way,

[Younes]

He isn't nearly as concerned with his eternity or finding peace as I am. Ive suffered much in my life, and his has been close to perfect, thus there is no need, in his reasoning, for God when everything is perfect. Why fix whats not broken? Also we have 3 children and I cannot safely carry anymore. Our final child was 3.5lbs at birth and all 3 were Csections so if I got remarried I wouldn't be able to bear children for my husband. Would that be a problem?

Islamically-speaking there is no problem. However, it depends on the person. Some people will won't like it and thus won't get married because of that. Some people will be fine with it and will get married. Like I said, it depends on the person if they want to get married. But there is nothing in Islam which says that you can't get married if you can't bear children. Most of the Prophets' (pbuh) wives didn't bear him children; only two did. So not bearing children is not an issue.

[AHMAD_73]

Just because a person is a Jew, such as your husband, would not automatically qualify him as an unbeliever, contrary to popular thought.

69. Those who believe (in the Qur'án), those who follow the Jewish (Scriptures), and the Sabians and the Christians, any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

(The Qur'an (Yusuf Ali tr), Surah 5)

For a fuller Qur'an study of who the Unbelievers are, follow this link. (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetgawaher(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/index.php?showtopic=737198"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetgawaher(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/index.php?showtopic=737198[/url]
Personally, it is not up to any person to make that determination through a forum who has no knowledge of your husband, his beliefs, his practices, etc. Just ask, do you believe in God and the Last Day? Does he work righteousness? Perhaps he is on the right path.

that is right bfore Islam or before knowing about it, but since he have the information that the god has revealed a new scripture, then he have no choice but to follow it,

003.085 Y: If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good).

He is neither Jewish nor Christian, rather agnostic until hes in trouble and he fancies Buddhism.

i feel like he is in the searching mode about the truth, am I right
if any brother here can tell what seems alike between Islam rites and Buddhism, you can attract excite him to know about Islam

[Younes]

Just because a person is a Jew, such as your husband, would not automatically qualify him as an unbeliever, contrary to popular thought.

69. Those who believe (in the Qur'án), those who follow the Jewish (Scriptures), and the Sabians and the Christians, any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

(The Qur'an (Yusuf Ali tr), Surah 5)

For a fuller Qur'an study of who the Unbelievers are, follow this link. (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetgawaher(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/index.php?showtopic=737198"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetgawaher(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/index.php?showtopic=737198[/url]
Personally, it is not up to any person to make that determination through a forum who has no knowledge of your husband, his beliefs, his practices, etc. Just ask, do you believe in God and the Last Day? Does he work righteousness? Perhaps he is on the right path.

Seriously stop commenting on Islam and the Qur'an.

The verse you quoted has a context. It refers to the Jews who followed their respective Prophets (pbut) like the followers of Moses (pbuh), Joshua (pbuh), David (pbuh), Solomon (pbuh), followers Jesus (pbuh). However, denying Muhammad (pbuh) makes one a disbeliever whether you believe in the rest of the Prophets (pbut).

And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers (3:85)

Truly, the religion with Allah is Islam. Those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) did not differ except out of rivalry, after knowledge had come to them. And whoever disbelieves in the Ayat of Allah, then surely, Allah is Swift in reckoning (3:19)

[chelsea89]

I wish I could explain better. He likes video games, food, and anything else fun requring little to no effort on his part. If Islam would require him to do anything (other than have more sex and play more games) it wouldn't interest him. Like hes 2 classes away from graduating high school but won't take them. I love him dont get me wrong hes loving and a great involved dad, just lazy and uninterested with knowledge and work.

[Younes]

My advice is too seek the Truth/explore Islam and then worry about issues that come along with converting. Or do you already think that there is a high possibility that you will convert to Islam and you are planning for the future so to speak?

[chelsea89]

Planning for the future. Im trying to convince myself against Islam as if its the truth itll be irrefutable despite my best attempts. The Quaran makes alot of logical sense.