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#1 Luckee

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 12:37 AM

In Qu'ran, there is Fire with capital F right? Does Qu'ran describe Fire and its purpose? For example, that is has no smoke, if I recall that correctly. Any other description or purpose mention?

Is its purpose to purify your soul? Is it eternal or temporary for someone to experience it?

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 12:53 AM

Does Arabic even have capitalization? I didn't think it did, although perhaps I am wrong.

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 01:29 AM

Does Arabic even have capitalization? I didn't think it did, although perhaps I am wrong.


Not to my knowledge...maybe Luckee meant capitalize in the figurative sense (to place emphasize on a word). If so, Hellfire is mentioned and described in great detail in the Qur'an.

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Islam teaches that Hell is a real place prepared by God for those who do not believe in Him, rebel against His laws, and reject His messengers. Hell is an actual place, not a mere state of mind or a spiritual entity. The horrors, pain, anguish, and punishment are all real, but different in nature than their earthly counterparts. Hell is the ultimate humiliation and loss, and nothing is worse than it:

“Our Lord! Surely, whom You admit to the Fire, indeed You have disgraced him, and never will the wrongdoers find any helpers.” (Quran 3:192)

“Know they not that whoever opposes God and His Messenger (Muhammad), certainly for him will be the Fire of Hell to abide therein? That is the extreme disgrace.” (Quran 9:63)

The Names of Hell

Hell Fire has different names in Islamic texts. Each name gives a separate description. Some of its names are:

Jaheem – fire - because of its blazing fire.

Jahannam - Hell - because of the depth of its pit.

Ladthaa - blazing fire - because of its flames.

Sa’eer - blazing flame - because it is kindled and ignited.

Saqar - because of the intensity of its heat.

Hatamah - broken pieces or debris - because it breaks and crushes everything that is thrown into it.

Haawiyah - chasm or abyss - because the one who is thrown into it is thrown from top to bottom

Paradise and Hell Presently Exist and are Eternal

Hell exists at the present time and will continue to exist forever. It will never die down, and its inhabitants will remain in it forever. No one will come out of Hell except sinful believers who believed in the Oneness of God in this life and believed in the specific prophet sent to them (before the coming of Muhammad). The polytheists and unbelievers will reside in it forever. This belief has been held from classical times and is based on clear verses of the Quran and confirmed reports from the Prophet of Islam. The Quran speaks of Hell in the past tense and states that it has already been created:

“And fear the Fire which is prepared for the disbelievers.” (Quran 3:131)

The Prophet of Islam said:

“When any of you dies, he is shown his position (in the Hereafter) morning and evening. If he is one of the people of Paradise, he is shown the place of the people of Paradise. If he is one of the people of Hell, he is shown the place of people of Hell. He is told, ‘this is your position, until God resurrects you on the Day of Resurrection.” (Saheeh Al-Bukhari, Saheeh Muslim)

In another report, the Prophet said:

“Surely, the soul of a believer is a bird hanging on the trees of Paradise, until God returns it to his body on the Day of Resurrection.” (Muwatta of Malik)

These texts make it clear that Hell and Paradise exist, and that souls may enter them before the Day of Resurrection. Speaking of Hell’s eternity, God says:

“They will long to leave the Fire, but never will they leave there from; and theirs will be a lasting torment.” (Quran 5:37)

“…And they will never leave of the Fire.” (Quran 2:167)

“Surely, those who disbelieve and did wrong; God will not forgive them, nor will He guide them to any way except the way of Hell, to dwell therein forever.” (Quran 4:168-169)

“Surely, God has cursed the disbelievers, and has prepared for them a flaming Fire wherein they will abide for ever.” (Quran 33:64)

“And whosoever disobeys God and His Messenger, then surely, for him is the fire of Hell, he shall dwell therein forever.” (Quran 72:23)

The Keepers of Hell

Mighty and stern angels stand over Hell who never disobey God. They do precisely as ordered. God says:

“O you who believe, save yourselves and your families from a Fire whose fuel is men and stones over which are (appointed) angels, stern and severe, who flinch not (from executing) the commands they receive from God, but do (precisely what) they are commanded.” (Quran 66:6)

They are nineteen keepers of Hell as God says:

“Soon I will cast him into Hell Fire. And what will explain to you what is Hellfire? Nothing does it allow to endure, and nothing does it leave alone! Darkening and changing the color of man! Over it are nineteen (angels as keepers of Hell).” (Quran 74:26-30)

One should not think that the inhabitants of Hell will be able to overcome the keepers of Hell because there are just nineteen of them. Everyone of them has the strength to subdue all humanity by himself. These angels are called the Guards of Hell by God in the Quran:

“And those in the Fire will say to the Guards of Hell, ‘Call upon your Lord to lighten for us the torment for a day!’” (Quran 40:49)

The name of the chief angel guarding over Hell is Malik, as mentioned in the Quran:

“Surely, the disbelievers will be in the torment of Hell to abide therein forever. (The torment) will not be lightened for them, and they will be plunged into destruction with deep regrets, sorrows and in despair therein. We wronged them not, but they were the wrongdoers. And they will cry: ‘O Malik! Let your Lord make an end of us’ He will say: ‘Surely, you shall abide forever.’ Indeed We have brought the truth to you, but most of you have a hatred for the truth” (Quran 43:74-78)

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Is its purpose to purify your soul? Is it eternal or temporary for someone to experience it?


It's not a place of purification but punishment. For those who believe in Allah, they will be punished for a suitable duration for their worldly sins. For those who disbelieve in Allah, they will be in it forever.

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 01:30 AM

Does Arabic even have capitalization? I didn't think it did, although perhaps I am wrong.

I have no idea. I saw Fire in an english translation. It seems that this concept of fire keeps returning in Qu'ran and I wonder what is ment with it.

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 01:45 AM

Does it serve any other symbolic purpose besides Hell (and divine punishment by extension)?

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 01:55 AM

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The Prophet of Islam said:

“When any of you dies, he is shown his position (in the Hereafter) morning and evening. If he is one of the people of Paradise, he is shown the place of the people of Paradise. If he is one of the people of Hell, he is shown the place of people of Hell. He is told, ‘this is your position, until God resurrects you on the Day of Resurrection.” (Saheeh Al-Bukhari, Saheeh Muslim)

In another report, the Prophet said:

“Surely, the soul of a believer is a bird hanging on the trees of Paradise, until God returns it to his body on the Day of Resurrection.” (Muwatta of Malik)

These texts make it clear that Hell and Paradise exist, and that souls may enter them before the Day of Resurrection.

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If disbelievers will abide in hell forever, whats happens to them when they become believers again?

What is meant with, "untill god ressurects you on the Day of Resurection?

Also, thanks for the links.

Edited by Luckee, 17 December 2011 - 02:03 AM.


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Posted 17 December 2011 - 01:56 AM

If disbelievers will abide in hell forever, whats happens to them when they become believers again?

From what I have been told, it will be too late for them to change their minds at that time. They will remain in hell forever.

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 04:07 AM

What is meant with, "untill god ressurects you on the Day of Resurection?


Day of resurrection is a predestined day; on this day everything will be destroyed, stars, sun, moon, mountains..all the material world will disappear. Then people & jinn will be brought back to life to face judgement. There are a lot of verses in Quran that describe this day, the events that occur, what people will say to each other; the conversations between satan and the people who were deceived by him, the conversation between the dwellers of hell fire and the dwellers of heaven. It's described as "Day mankind will stand before the Lord of all the worlds. Day! Surely the record of the wicked is (preserved) in Sijjin. And what will explain to thee what Sijjin is?. (There is) a Register (fully) inscribed.Woe, that Day, to those that deny Those that deny the Day of Judgment” The Chapter 83, Verse 6-11.

On that day, a person will be too occupied to worry about others. He will even abandon his own mother, father, spouse and children.

The intensity and inconceivable terror of the Day of Resurrection will make everyone concern himself over his own affairs. God describes the Day of Resurrection as follows:
What will convey to you what the Day of Judgement is? Again! What will convey to you what the Day of Judgement is? It is the Day when a soul will have no power to help any other soul in any way. The command that Day will be God’s alone. The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 82, Verses 17-19

When the Deafening Blast comes, that Day a man will flee from his brother and his mother and his father, and his wife and his children: on that Day every man among them will have concerns enough of his own. The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 80, Verses 33-37

And thus the most precious social bonds in this life will come to a bitter end. The terror of that day will render all close relations and kinship meaningless. The only precious thing remaining will be faith:
Then when the Trumpet is blown, that Day there will be no family ties between them; they will not be able to question one another. Those whose scales are heavy are the successful ones. Those whose scales are light are the losers of their souls, remaining in Hell timelessly, for ever. The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 23, Verses 101-103

Bonds and family ties break down in such a way that people would give their so-called beloved sons, spouses, brothers and even all their relatives in ransom for their own salvation:
No good friend will ask about his friend, even though they can see each other. An evil-doer will wish he could ransom himself from the punishment of that Day, by means of his sons, or his wife or his brother or his family who sheltered him or everyone else on earth, if only that meant that he could save himself. But no! It is a Raging Blaze. The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 70, Verses 10-15

Hope this helped.

Edited by mrhyder, 17 December 2011 - 04:08 AM.


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Posted 17 December 2011 - 04:19 AM

Salam


What is meant with, "untill god ressurects you on the Day of Resurection?

The day of resurection is in futur. Allah will cause the universe to collaps and everthing will be destroyed. The Allah will cause everyone to come to life (resurrection) again In a his/her earthly body for Judgement. Then Everyone will go to hell or paradise.

if disbelievers will abide in hell forever, whats happens to them when they become believers again?"

One you are dead all your deeds stops to be recorded except 3 ( a continous charitry, a good Son who makes dua for you, a Science that benefit humanity). After you are dead when you get resurructed, you will certainly believe cause you are watching ppl waiting to be judged. it is too late to repent.

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 12:05 PM

If disbelievers will abide in hell forever, whats happens to them when they become believers again?


If you didn't believe in this life it wont benefit you to believe in the Hereafter. How can you not believe when you see the Punishment with your very own eyes? It's similar to how in this life communities were sent Messengers, but they rejected the warnings and continued in their evil, and once the punishment of God came upon them they then believed -- but what use is your belief if the punishment has already come upon you? If you are taking an examination but managed to get hold of the answers, what use is that examination? It doesn't prove anything, and it can't be considered an examination.

Hell is an eternal abode for the disbelievers in God.

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 12:56 PM

If you didn't believe in this life it wont benefit you to believe in the Hereafter. How can you not believe when you see the Punishment with your very own eyes? It's similar to how in this life communities were sent Messengers, but they rejected the warnings and continued in their evil, and once the punishment of God came upon them they then believed -- but what use is your belief if the punishment has already come upon you? If you are taking an examination but managed to get hold of the answers, what use is that examination? It doesn't prove anything, and it can't be considered an examination.

Hell is an eternal abode for the disbelievers in God.

Do we require to believe in Allah to reach heavens or do we also require an understandig of Islam Qu'ran and its personification of Allah?

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 01:02 PM

Do we require to believe in Allah to reach heavens or do we also require an understandig of Islam Qu'ran and its personification of Allah?


It is narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: Ask me (about matters pertaining to religion), but they (the Companions of the Holy Prophet) were too much overawed out of profound respect for him to ask him (anything). In the meanwhile a man came there, and sat near his knees and said: Messenger of Allah, what al-lslam is? -to which he (the Holy Prophet) replied: You must not associate anything with Allah, and establish prayer, pay the poor-rate (Zakat) and observe (the fasts) of Ramadan. He said: You (have) told the truth. He (again) said: Messenger of Allah, what al-Iman (the faith) is? He (the Holy Prophet) said: That you affirm your faith in Allah, His angels, His Books, His meeting, His Apostles, and that you believe in Resurrection and that you believe in Qadr (Divine Decree) in all its entirety, He (the inquirer) said: You (have) told the truth. He (again) said: Messenger of Allah, what al-Ihsan is? Upon this he (the Holy Prophet) said: (Al-Ihsan implies) that you fear Allah as if you are seeing Him, and though you see Him not, verily He is seeing you. He (the inquirer) said: You (have) told the truth. He (the inquirer) said: When there would be the hour (of Doom)? (Upon this) he (the HolyProphet said: The one who is being asked about it is no better informed than the inquirer himself. I, however, narrate some of its signs (and these are): when you see a slave (woman) giving birth to her master - that is one of the signs of (Doom) ; when you see barefooted, naked, deaf and dumb (ignorant and foolish persons) as the rulers of the earth - that is one of the signs of the Doom. And when you see the shepherds of black camels exult in buildings - that is one of the signs of Doom. The (Doom) is one of the five things (wrapped) in the unseen. No one knows them except Allah. Then (the Holy Prophet) recited (the folowing verse):" Verily Allah! with Him alone is the knowledge of the hour and He it is Who sends down the rain and knows that which is in the wombs and no person knows whatsoever he shall earn on morrow and a person knows not in whatsoever land he shall die. Verily Allah is Knowing, Aware. He (the narrator, Abu Huraira) said: Then the person stood up an (made his way). The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: Bring him back to me. He was searched for, but they (the Companions of the Holy Prophet) could not find him. The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) thereupon said: He was Gabriel and he wanted to teach you (things pertaining to religion) when you did not ask (them yourselves). [Sahih Muslim]

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 01:56 PM

When qu'ran says that only disbelievers go to hell, then almost no one will continue to disbelieve while waiting for judgement in the afterlife. So will believers also go to hell?

“And those in the Fire will say to the Guards of Hell, ‘Call upon your Lord to lighten for us the torment for a day!’” (Quran 40:49)

They are not referring to Allah as "my Lord" but rather "your Lord". How can you call these believers?

Edited by Luckee, 17 December 2011 - 01:58 PM.


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Posted 17 December 2011 - 02:02 PM

When qu'ran says that only disbelievers go to hell, then almost no one will continue to disbelieve while waiting for judgement in the afterlife. So will believers also go to hell?

“And those in the Fire will say to the Guards of Hell, ‘Call upon your Lord to lighten for us the torment for a day!’” (Quran 40:49)

They are not referring to Allah as "my Lord" but rather "your Lord". How can you call these believers?


Once you die in this life it's game over; you either believed or disbelieved.

Some believers may also go to Hell temporarily due to their sins.

They are believers in the sense that they now acknowledge Allaah, and realise they were wrongdoers and earned themselves punishment in Hell.

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 03:39 PM

Once you die in this life it's game over; you either believed or disbelieved.

Some believers may also go to Hell temporarily due to their sins.

They are believers in the sense that they now acknowledge Allaah, and realise they were wrongdoers and earned themselves punishment in Hell.

I see... So in the afterlife there is no believer or disbeliever, yet we will be judged based on our "temporary" lifes here on earth? So Allah makes the judgement, or is Allah not judgemental? Or judge, if that is more appropriate.

What about Him being the all-merciful, yet promises the greatest mercilessness perceivable in human thought? Simply because of the fact that someone is too stubborn to believe in the unseen?

Why not make disbeliever "non-existant". Sure Allah can do such a thing, right? His existance does not depend on ours?

Edited by Luckee, 17 December 2011 - 03:46 PM.


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Posted 17 December 2011 - 05:23 PM

I see... So in the afterlife there is no believer or disbeliever, yet we will be judged based on our "temporary" lifes here on earth? So Allah makes the judgement, or is Allah not judgemental? Or judge, if that is more appropriate.


There are two cases in which it will be two late for an individual to become a believer: When he/she dies and when (in the future) the sun rises from the west right before the Day of Judgment. In these two cases, any individual labeled a disbeliever will remain a disbeliever, even if they repent in the afterlife.

So yes, in the afterlife people will be identified as believers and disbelievers. Because disbelievers did not believe when it mattered. Their belief came from the fact that they could no longer deny God or the reality of their fate.

What about Him being the all-merciful, yet promises the greatest mercilessness perceivable in human thought? Simply because of the fact that someone is too stubborn to believe in the unseen?


Mercilessness is the state of being devoid of mercy. Allah not only has mercy, He is the only source of mercy in the universe. If you help an old lady across the street, this is not a reflection of your mercy. Because you are not the source of that mercy. Allah instilled in you a degree of His own mercy.

Secondly, Allah is not just the Most Merciful, He is also the Just and the Judge. He gives people what is due to them. He does not punish anyone except that they themselves have brought it on themselves. He shows no mercy to those who have not earned that mercy. But neither does He punish anyone unjustly. In other words, people reap what they sow.

So yes, Allah shows no mercy toward those who reject Him and His commandments. But He Himself is not "merciless" (devoid of mercy), because He is, at the same time, showing mercy to those of His creation who have worshiped Him. His attribute of being merciful doesn't interfere with His other attributes that allow Him to try people based on their own deeds (or misdeeds, in this case).

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 06:32 PM

There are two cases in which it will be two late for an individual to become a believer: When he/she dies and when (in the future) the sun rises from the west right before the Day of Judgment. In these two cases, any individual labeled a disbeliever will remain a disbeliever, even if they repent in the afterlife.

So yes, in the afterlife people will be identified as believers and disbelievers. Because disbelievers did not believe when it mattered. Their belief came from the fact that they could no longer deny God or the reality of their fate.
Mercilessness is the state of being devoid of mercy. Allah not only has mercy, He is the only source of mercy in the universe. If you help an old lady across the street, this is not a reflection of your mercy. Because you are not the source of that mercy. Allah instilled in you a degree of His own mercy.

Secondly, Allah is not just the Most Merciful, He is also the Just and the Judge. He gives people what is due to them. He does not punish anyone except that they themselves have brought it on themselves. He shows no mercy to those who have not earned that mercy. But neither does He punish anyone unjustly. In other words, people reap what they sow.

So yes, Allah shows no mercy toward those who reject Him and His commandments. But He Himself is not "merciless" (devoid of mercy), because He is, at the same time, showing mercy to those of His creation who have worshiped Him. His attribute of being merciful doesn't interfere with His other attributes that allow Him to try people based on their own deeds (or misdeeds, in this case).

Salam.

But how does a lifetime of disbelieve compare to an eternity in Hell? How is this Just?

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 09:19 PM

But how does a lifetime of disbelieve compare to an eternity in Hell? How is this Just?


But why was that person not guided? And is the excuse given acceptable? And (remember) when your Lord brought forth from the Children of Adam, from their loins, their seed (or from Adam's loin his offspring) and made them testify as to themselves (saying): "Am I not your Lord?" They said: "Yes! We testify," lest you should say on the Day of Resurrection: "Verily, we have been unaware of this." Or lest you should say: "It was only our fathers afortime who took others as partners in worship along with Allah, and we were (merely their) descendants after them; will You then destroy us because of the deeds of men who practised Al-Batil (i.e. polytheism and committing crimes and sins, invoking and worshipping others besides Allah)?" [7:172-173]

Man owes everything to God, yet he declares himself independent of God due to his arrogance. If you are an individual who opens his eyes and thinks -an individual who seeks the truth- then Allaah will guide you to the truth. If a person is condemned to Hell for eternity then no doubt he earned it and is deserving of it. Whether Allaah gave him one lifetime or 100 lifetimes he would not have believed, because he was an evil individual who rejected the truth, and as a result was misguided.

If you were to continue your line of questioning then I'm sure we would reach the question "Why did God put us on earth at all?", "Why not just put us in Paradise in the first place?" But Allaah knows and you know not. And (remember) when your Lord said to the angels: "Verily, I am going to place (mankind) generations after generations on earth." They said: "Will You place therein those who will make mischief therein and shed blood, - while we glorify You with praises and thanks (Exalted be You above all that they associate with You as partners) and sanctify You." He (Allah) said: "I know that which you do not know." [2:30] Allaah honoured the son of Adam and gave him intellect, and if uses that intellect and seeks that guidance then no doubt Allaah will guide him and give him eternal life.

Bottom line is: you are either a believer or a disbeliever. The believer can expect the Mercy of Allaah in the hereafter, whereas the disbeliever cannot. If you are a disbeliever then you are no doubt an evil soul deserving of eternal punishment. I think the issue you have is that you think that a disbeliever may be justified or have legitimate reasons for not believing in Allaah, but that simply isn't true if you have heard the message of Islaam.

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 11:23 PM

But how does a lifetime of disbelieve compare to an eternity in Hell? How is this Just?


I think the words you used were "perceivable in human thought". Obviously, it is beyond your capacity to perceive how terrible rejection of God is.

Why is it just? Because God gives people the power to decide their own fate. He doesn't choose for them.

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 11:31 PM

But why was that person not guided? And is the excuse given acceptable? And (remember) when your Lord brought forth from the Children of Adam, from their loins, their seed (or from Adam's loin his offspring) and made them testify as to themselves (saying): "Am I not your Lord?" They said: "Yes! We testify," lest you should say on the Day of Resurrection: "Verily, we have been unaware of this." Or lest you should say: "It was only our fathers afortime who took others as partners in worship along with Allah, and we were (merely their) descendants after them; will You then destroy us because of the deeds of men who practised Al-Batil (i.e. polytheism and committing crimes and sins, invoking and worshipping others besides Allah)?" [7:172-173]

Man owes everything to God, yet he declares himself independent of God due to his arrogance. If you are an individual who opens his eyes and thinks -an individual who seeks the truth- then Allaah will guide you to the truth. If a person is condemned to Hell for eternity then no doubt he earned it and is deserving of it. Whether Allaah gave him one lifetime or 100 lifetimes he would not have believed, because he was an evil individual who rejected the truth, and as a result was misguided.

If you were to continue your line of questioning then I'm sure we would reach the question "Why did God put us on earth at all?", "Why not just put us in Paradise in the first place?" But Allaah knows and you know not. And (remember) when your Lord said to the angels: "Verily, I am going to place (mankind) generations after generations on earth." They said: "Will You place therein those who will make mischief therein and shed blood, - while we glorify You with praises and thanks (Exalted be You above all that they associate with You as partners) and sanctify You." He (Allah) said: "I know that which you do not know." [2:30] Allaah honoured the son of Adam and gave him intellect, and if uses that intellect and seeks that guidance then no doubt Allaah will guide him and give him eternal life.

Bottom line is: you are either a believer or a disbeliever. The believer can expect the Mercy of Allaah in the hereafter, whereas the disbeliever cannot. If you are a disbeliever then you are no doubt an evil soul deserving of eternal punishment. I think the issue you have is that you think that a disbeliever may be justified or have legitimate reasons for not believing in Allaah, but that simply isn't true if you have heard the message of Islaam.

100 lifetimes of disbelieve still doesn't justify an eternity in Hell.

What causes a soul to be evil. Who created the soul, was it neutral at the beginning, good or evil? Does the soul have free will, then how can it choose evil for eternity when the eternal choice to choose the good is always available? Assuming that Allah exists and total submission to His will is a choice we have to make. It seems that an eternal disbelieve is non-existant. The disbelieve can only approach eternity, but will never reach it l. If one has an eternal disbelieve of Allah, then sure He is Allah himself! This cannot be possible, right? If God wills, surely He can show the way even to the most evil when there is an eternity to show it?

If the soul does not choose evil or disbelieve, yet is still being put in Hell as a punishment, what does that imply? The goodness of the soul is not being increased, but rather decreased. When you take out this soul, he will be a good soul, not because his soul is good, but because he fears Allah and fears Hell. The fear is not the roots of goodnes, but fear is the root of all evil. So the very concept Hell is by no means a useful thing for the soul. It does not motivate or promote goodness of soul, but rather evil. Why does Allah put souls in hell for them to become more evil? To enforce the fear that already is present within the soul? Why would Allah promote fear by spreading a promise of punishment for those who do evil? How will these disbeliever submit to such a scary merciless God when fear is what caused their disbelieve and evil deeds to be in the first place? It seems contradicting.