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[Luckee]

"Why does God create this reality for us?"

I have prayed and intended to find out. I felt the smiles of my ancestors from the heavens upon me as I found out.

It seems that our reality is a very limiting one. We have little freedom, it SEEMS! This observance is only an illusion. We have all the freedom of the universe to do whatever it is we wish to do. This Reality is a very difficult reality and we are brave to have chosen this reality! This is why the ancestors will smile upon you from the heavens when you realize how luckee you are to have gone trough all this trouble. When you can remain faithful of God in the midst of all the limits you face, you will have mastered the limits in your life. You will be litterally a master of limitation. You will be held up high in the afterlife for your accomplishments in this life. If you can never realize that worshipping God is the only purpose in this life, you will plunge into forgetfullness and just waste your time running in circles, thinking that all the limits you face are the Truth and that God is a lie. In the afterlife there is no doubt, for the freedom you face, every influence God has will become manifested instanteously and His Will will become appearant clearly. Thus, you have to face your own doubt right now of God's existance. Let go of the doubt. The doubt is there to protect you. Give it one big hug and let it go. Be with God.

The reward of this world is with Allah and the reward of the after life is with Allah. The entire universe is yours for the taking if you can only recall that your purpose is to Trust only God and nothing else. Worship only him as the unchanging Truth and nothing else. Trust that God wills for your the best and remember it. Recall it. Observe it in your own life by being couragious and dropping doubt and Trust God all the way.

This is all I can say on this subject. I hope someone will find it useful.

[AHMAD_73]

I thought I just create a topic on these forums, because Muslims are the least materialistic people of all.

in fact lucee, we are just materialistic excactly the same as we are spiritual. I believe Islam provide the ideal balance between both. as our spirits need to be strenghten especially about the unseen, our physical bodies need to go, learn, work, earn money, food, marriage, ......

All the "Muslims" I know in my life are not Muslims, but I've never been wise enough to realize that I can just go to a Masjid to find real Muslims. I might do that, and hope to find wise Muslims who also speak my language at least a little.

that will be ultimately great inshaa Allah, try to find the most wise amoung them, sure they will like to help

I think it is even better if I learned Arabic, hehe. I downloaded audio Qu'ran with english translation. I can learn slowly in this way and enjoy the recitation.

I can claim that the Quran is the Arabic literal god message to every individual on this earth. The Quran talks to the mind, spirit, and every single emotion we have. All of this within an enjoyable musical rhythm.

I guess such a big discovery in my life is allot to handle and I can't seem to stop thinking about what it means! I mean why do we need a religion when we can just pray for peace and Trust God? I love to talk about it and discover the deep core roots of Islam and what it really is all about. I'm very excited to discover more about Islam and what it means to me.

The former USSR decided to disbelieve in god and walk the life journey with his human thinking capabilities away of god. That led to the killing of 10s of millions of his own people spreading out the poverty, sadness, and many other troubles.
If the culture of open free sex, some countries have, was just few decades ago they may have 10s of times of fatal diseases more than what they have now, which is already very high.
Just some couple of these trials to control our lives away of god and the humanity will be distinct.

The god sent the messengers every where, since the time of Adam tell the final messenger of god, Mohammad (pbuh), the humanity were mature enough and have good communications to allow this message to spread out.
The god sent the messages of love and peace, of happiness and guidance in this short life and the eternal life too.

Anyways, thanks for the kind words and advice :-)

Thank you too,
Keep seeking the truth, and sure you will reach it, inshaa Allah.

[Luckee]

No. Sorry but that isn't true. I know what a triangle is, and yet it is not physical. Additionally, dark matter may very well be physical, but no one understands it. You seem to have failed on both counts.

And is your definition of a triangle a changing definition?

Do you see how becoming aware of the influence of dark matter has made it physical? This is called entanglement in physics. Your understanding and interpretation of information makes things physical. It collapses the wave function of the probability distribution into a particle probability distribution. That doesn't change the fact that the particle is still a probability distribution that seems like it is "physical". It has more density and certainty to it. As I said: both "physical" and "non-physical" are abstractions of density(or you might say "certainty")

The triangle is information. Everything in this universe can be considered informational. Or "probability distributions".

Anyways, I'm glad that you claim that you understand what a triangle is. Go ahead and enlighten me of your knowledge over this triangle. I just hope we don't come to a conclusion that your triangle is a higher truth then God, but I wont judge you if you wish to do so, honestly. Its just another one outcome of this conversation.

[Luckee]

in fact lucee, we are just materialistic excactly the same as we are spiritual.

hi :-)

Understand that what I meant with "materialistic" was simply "a worshipping of everchanging idols".

I know very well that Muslims have the strongest roots in this "physical" reality. The reason is mostly because they hold on to the Unchanging Truth Allah and worship only Him.

In the western world the term "materialism" has been bent around to oppose spirituality, when in fact both spirit and matter are the same. I am also aware of this.

[the sad clown]

And is your definition of a triangle a changing definition?

Do you see how becoming aware of the influence of dark matter has made it physical? This is called entanglement in physics. Your understanding and interpretation of information makes things physical. It collapses the wave function of the probability distribution into a particle probability distribution. That doesn't change the fact that the particle is still a probability distribution that seems like it is "physical". It has more density and certainty to it. As I said: both "physical" and "non-physical" are abstractions of density(or you might say "certainty")

And yet you haven't told me anything about dark matter itself, only some of its suspected effects (and you can't even be sure of that).

The triangle is information. Everything in this universe can be considered informational. Or "probability distributions".

Anyways, I'm glad that you claim that you understand what a triangle is. Go ahead and enlighten me of your knowledge over this triangle. I just hope we don't come to a conclusion that your triangle is a higher truth then God, but I wont judge you if you wish to do so, honestly. Its just another one outcome of this conversation.

A probability distribution is of something and is not completely interchangeable with information despite your insinuations otherwise. And a triangle is a polygon with three angles.