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#1 ladybug

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Posted 02 February 2005 - 07:25 PM

According to [img]"[img][img]factbook[img]/muslim_pop.php"]this website[/url] (factbook[img]) there are 606,361 Muslims in Hungary today, or roughly 6% of the population. I believe most of them are Arab, some Turkish (mainly in Budapest), and there were some Hungarians of Bosniak descent who settled in Hungary after WWI who strayed from their ancestors faith and assimilated or died away, there is presence of Muslims amongst the gypsies (even Christian gypsies can be named Mustafa and Fatima, though), and the smallest population are the reverted Hungarian Muslims (among these include the former 'fascist' leader Admiral Horthy's own grandson, Sharif (formerly Steven) Horthy :biggrin:).

Many people don't know that the presence of Islam in Hungary pre-dates the Ottoman occupation, and is recorded back to the 12th Century by Arab travellers and perhaps existed even earlier. This article in English called '[img]"[img][img]magyariszlam.hu/eng/islaminhun.htm"]Islam in Hungary[/url]' gives a very detailed account of this presence, from the Hungarian Islamic Community website. The article also shows some photos of Ottoman-era buildings and Hungarian Islamic Community today, etc. :smile:

The Mu'rib 'an ba'd adjâ'ib al-Maghrib of the traveller, merchant and faqih Abu Hamid al-Garnati (d. 1170) is the most detailed report on the Muslims of Hungary of the 12th century. Garnati spent three years in the country, which he called "Unkuriya", as, had done Mascudi and Idrisi. Like Istakhri and Ibn Hawkal, he used the name "Bashghard" for its people, whom he also considered to be Turks, and called their king "Kazali". This term can be related to the Slavic "kral" (king) or to the name of the Hungarian monarch of that period, Géza II (1141-1161), who seems to have greatly respected Garnati 's advice and held his person in high esteem (according to the author's own records, which are! often fictitious, not to say miraculous, as are those of the Arab travellers in general). He must have exaggerated when he spoke of "thousands of Maghribis and countless Khwarizmis" in Hungary: reportedly the former openly professed their Islamic faith while the latter concealed it. Both of these groups seem to have served the King as warriors in his campaigns against the Emperor of Byzantium who was less friendly to his own Muslim mercenaries than Géza II, according again Abu Hamid. This was perhaps the reason why Garnati could term these Byzantino-Hungarian wars as "Jihad". "This king likes the Muslims," he said about the Hungarian sovereign. We also know from the author that he bought, for 10 dinars, a local concubine, who gave birth to his son, Hamid, whom he left in 1153 as a hostage to the King and promised to return, but finally did not do so.

Garnati's description of the cheap and rich Hungary of that time and his discussions with Géza II about the advantages of polygamy and abstention from drinking wine may be less exciting than his words concerning those he termed "Maghribis" or, more exactly, "descendants of the Maghribis" (awladu'I-Maghariba or abna'u'I-Maghariba). It is believed that they were Arabs -perhaps really North-African or Andalusian -whose ancestors had joined, in the 10th or 11th century, the (Turkic) Pecheneg tribes coming from the East to Hungary and eventually merging with her people. There may have been Muslims among the predominantly pagan Pechenegs, as Al-Bakri also claimed. According to his own records, the missionary-inclined Garnati made attempts to improve their knowledge of Islam and Arabic. "Today, sermons of Friday are delivered at more than ten thousand places as their country is enormous," he wrote proudly of the result of his activities. This was, of course, untrue, yet we know from authentic Hungarian sources too that "Saracens" or "Ismaelites" served as royal guardsmen while others were entrusted with tax-collection duties, money changing and even minting, so they played a remarkable role in the medieval economy, just like the Jewish moneylenders did. Their prerogatives and commercial benefits were so important that the Church and the nobles found it necessary to incorporate their sensible limitation in the Golden Bull, the famous edict issued in 1222 by King Andrew II, and in its revised version of 1231 as well. The Christian pressure became so strong that at the beginning of 1232, Archbishop Robert, with the authorization of the Pope, did in fact excommunicate Andrew for his continued employment of Muslim and Jewish moneylenders, and also for restricting the Church's salt monopoly. The King was compelled to conclude a treaty with the Pope's envoy in which he conceded to the demands of the clergy. A few years later the Tatars of Batu Khan invaded Hungary for a while, and the Muslims seem to have disappeared from the scene for the coming three centuries.

As to the relative privileges they enjoyed earlier, we must add that they were, like the Jews, always exposed to the aggressive Christian proselytizing zeal and the spirit of the crusades. Laws of the late 11th century forced them to the so-called "pork test": they could be put to death if they refused to eat the divinely prohibited meat. The abovementioned Khwarizmis' concealment of their belief may be explained by this legal terror, though this latter was not continuously practised at all. However, the influence of just a few hundred Muslims could not be significant, except in finances.


[img]"[img][img]magyariszlam.hu"][img][img]magyariszlam.hu[/url]
A site in Hungarian: [img]"[img][img]iszlam.hu/"][img][img]iszlam.hu/[/url]

"S Allah a béke házába hiv, s azt vezeti, kit Ő akar az egyenes ösvényre" (Korán 10:25) :D

#2 ladybug

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Posted 02 February 2005 - 07:40 PM

See also: Photos of the [img]"[img][img]siklos.hu/dzsami"]Malkocs Bej Dzsámi[/url] in Siklós city.

This next article appeared in the Independent.co.uk and dated to July 13, 2001, but is no longer available on that website.

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Hungary: Of Masjids, minarets and Magyars

Hungary's Ottoman heritage may sometimes lie buried beneath a Christian veneer
By Sarah A Smith

If asked to name a Muslim country, it's unlikely that Hungary would be the first to spring to mind. Yet for more than 170 years (1526-1699), the heart of this country, including much of Transdanubia, Budapest and a slice of the Great Plain, was under Ottoman rule and marked the most westerly point of the empire. During this period, churches became Masjids, and belfries minarets; religious schools, dervish monasteries and caravanserais were set up in large towns, and Budapest's Margit Island was turned into a harem. It's difficult to believe, in this land of baroque churches and art nouveau mansions, but Hungary was once recognisably part of what was known as "Turkey in Europe".

Appropriately, the people who became a byword for hedonism left the capital, Budapest, one of its most pleasurable pastimes: the thermal baths. Hungary's hot springs were used by the Romans but the Ottomans made them an institution. The Rudas, Rac and Kiraly baths survive.

The best-preserved, the Rudas, squats at the foot of Gellert Hill, on the Danube embankment, and looks distinctly uninviting. Its hall, which I peer into (women are not allowed into the Rudas, although they can use the swimming pool) is shabby, and chunks of the ceiling have fallen in. But my partner agrees to try it in the interests of research.

Once he has got over his confusion at having to wear an apron rather than the expected loincloth, he adores the experience. The bath is so old (it dates from 1556), the water (36C and sulphurous) so relaxing: he has wallowed in history. After a sauna, he sits in the octagonal pool edged with pink marble, beneath a dome inset with coloured glass and supported by pillars. The dome and the water together create a magical acoustic, and the surrounding voices are reduced to an otherworldly murmur.

Aside from baths, the remaining traces of the Ottoman Empire are largely religious. The most impressive of these in northern Hungary is the tomb of Gul Baba, a dervish saint whose shrine is still visited by devotees of the Bektashi sect from across the Islamic world. Situated on Rozsadomb, or Rose Hill, in the north of Buda, with views over the city, the octagonal, copper-domed mausoleum is reached via a broken, weed-tight path. The tomb is pristine: Turkey provided the money to restore the building and it now sits in an incongruously Mediterranean-style garden, complete with pillars, climbing roses, an ablutions fountain, and rather too new-looking tiling. If it all appears slightly kitsch, it is touching to find so well-preserved a monument in a country that still remembers its Ottoman past with distaste, and has the statues of crushed Turks and victorious Magyars to prove it.

The real place for Ottoman remnants is in the south, however. Pécs, 200km from Budapest, has a Mediterranean climate and pretty boulevards. Its central feature, and symbol, is an Ottoman-style Masjid, now an Ottoman-mosque-style Catholic church. A brick building in the midst of painted baroque façades, a church with a crescent and a cross rising from its dome, it is unsettling inside and out. No amount of paint has been spared to retouch its vaulted corners, mihrab, or the bricks around its arched windows. To stand at the back of the church, looking past a modern Christian mural at the faded Koranic inscriptions on the walls and the Masjid lamps hanging from the ceiling, is giddying. A similarly confusing experience awaits in Szigetvár, 33km west of Pécs, where the former Masjid of Ali Pasha has been cleverly hidden inside an 18th-century church.

Besides these hybrids, the Jakovali Hassan Masjid in Pécs, and the Malkocs Bej Masjid in Siklós, a rundown town near the Croatian border, seem restrained. Jakovali Hassan is Hungary's only intact Masjid and the most sensitively restored. The monastery that once adjoined it is long gone, and now it is jammed between three-story buildings, its minaret poking up hopefully behind, an oddity in a street some way from the town's attractions. Malkocs Bej is now a museum and the enthusiasm with which the elderly caretaker greets us (would we like a Hungarian translation of the Koran? No? A book on the Bosnian war, perhaps?) suggests that it is little visited. The exhibits include a Turkish tea set, carpets, pipes and slippers. Mohács, 40km east of Pécs, is the site of the fateful Ottoman victory that allowed the forces of the expansionist Emperor Suleyman the Magnificent into the country. Hungarian historians insist that their ancestors were outnumbered two to one; Western writers suggest the forces were evenly matched. In the 1970s, archaeologists discovered three mass graves in a field outside the town, and the area is now a memorial garden.

A sign emphasises that this is a burial ground and the scene of a national tragedy. We are met by a bewildering array of 2m-high carved wooden totem poles, staked around the garden. Some are abstract, others representative, none are standing quite straight. Suleyman himself is present, complete with a bag of wooden heads. He is placed, rather unnervingly, beside one of the wreath-strewn graves. From here, we headed north-east across the Great Plain, to Eger, in the northern uplands. Although we had avoided castles for most of our trip, there was something insistent about Eger's. It was the scene of a glorious Magyar defence in 1552 (the 1596 capitulation is largely glossed over).

The castle's strategist, Dobó István, lies within the "hall of heroes", guarded by figures of Magyar champions and adorned with ribboned wreaths. These are a feature of Hungarian monuments; flags seem to be everywhere, even a roadside shrine on the Plain has flowers in the national red, white and green. The town's other attraction is its minaret, the oldest surviving Muslim structure in Europe this far north. While most surviving Masjids lost their minarets, this lost its Masjid in 1841.

Ten minutes away is the Effendi Restaurant, serving such delights as the Pasha's Secret (a pork-stuffed bread loaf) and the Sultan's Cup (an ice-cream concoction). It seems a fitting place to end a trip through a land that, while it does not hide its Ottoman past, isn't always entirely sure what to do with it.

#3 ummammaar

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Posted 06 April 2005 - 06:46 PM

:D

:D You just taught me something I never knew.

#4 ferramis

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Posted 15 July 2005 - 03:22 PM

Salamu alaikum dear sisters and brothers,

is here someone who livs in Hungary, mainly Budapest? I am planing to make a short trip to Budapest together with my wife. Or is there anyone who was there already and can suggest me some places to visit. I already contacted some muslim associations from which i found from Islamicfinder...

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Posted 30 June 2009 - 11:21 PM

The number of 606,361 Muslims in Hungary is totally incorrect. Would they have museums in old ottoman Masjids as you can see in Malkosz bey Masjid. Does anyone know. Is there any prayer in this Masjid?