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  1. Donald, Isn't that obvious that everyone has their own unique spiritual journey? Among those who believe, there are those who pray because their family or the people around them pray. Some pray because they are afraid of God's punishment. Some pray because their want to seek God's pleasure. There are also those who pray because they want to seek God's pleasure and at the same time are in fear of His Punishment. Some pray because it gives them peace of mind. Some pray because they are thankful for what they have been blessed with. Some pray because they want to be seen as pious men. Some pray because it's a natural thing to do for creation to worship the Creator. Some pray because they are dependent on Creator's help. Some pray because it makes their life complete and meaningful. And I have to acknowledge that there are also those who think they can just stop believing because they do no longer feel anything as their focus is finally shifted to all the wordly things. That's why you need critical thinking that will allow you to realize that no matter what happens, no matter how fluctuating your faith is, you would always need to be connected with the Creator at the end of the day. You can't be rich forever, you can't be young forever, you can't be healthy forever, and most importantly, you can't live forever. And there are those who think that this stuff about believing in Creator is nonsense. And usually they are intellectually curious people. Yasnov
  2. Never mind, llogical. Hope you'll find what you're looking for. Yasnov
  3. Donald, What you said that everything is a product of its circumstances -- might be true. Though, sometimes I wondered that if I was born into, say, Christian family, but with the same feeling and mindset and critical thinking that I am having now, I might be end up questioning the concept of God in Christianity. Or, in other words, I would end up feeling discontent and unhappy with the belief that I had, and I may start looking somewhere else just like many Christians who have converted to Islam from Christianity. But then you could also say the same thing about Muslims leaving the folds of Islam and embracing other religions. That's why I said that belief is spiritual personal experience. Right, you can't be proud of something which is happenstance, but of course you can be proud of it if it can make you a better person, or if it can remove the emptiness that you feel within you without it, if it can make your life more fulfilled and more guided. Yasnov
  4. llogical, This is spiritual thing. Spiritual feeling. I can do what you suggested if I was unhappy with my direction. But no, I am happy enough already with my own direction. I don't know about the Jew, if he's happy enough with his direction despite of what I told him, then it's up to him to decide, there's nothing I can do. Let's take it to Emotional Realm. You have always fallen in love with Girl A. You want to marry her and spend the rest of your life with her. There's no reason for you not to marry her in fact. But then one day, when you wake up in the morning, you just decide and told yourself, I wanted to marry Girl B instead and see how's my feeling for Girl B. Isn't that what you're implying here? To me, to move from one religion to another I must have a reason first to do that, and the reason must be something spiritual. Yasnov
  5. Ilogical, You're being vague. Improve in what? Physycally? Economically? Spritually? Emotionally? Yasnov
  6. llogical, In that scenario, I'll tell him kindly the reasons why he should follow me. I'll invite him to take the road that I'm taking. But that's all that I can do. Yasnov
  7. llogical, Each of us are going through life differently. I was a born Muslim who has always been living on this Earth. And you are a friendy visiting Alien. I don't know anything about you, about your life. I don't know what's missing or lacking from your life. It's only you who know yourself, which parts of it that need to be improved. I am not the one to tell you how Islam will improve your life if I never knew what you wanted to achieve out of this world. This thread is pointless if you never think there is a Creator in the first place. This is Spiritual Realm. You can't use critical thinking on this. This is the same thing when you can't use Critical Thinking on Emotional Realm. When you are emotionally attached to a certain individual, you can't use Critical Thinking to shift your feeling from that particular person to someone else. Imagine the people out there who believe that there's alien life out there, and they keep looking forward to meeting an alien someday. People can believe if they want to and if they need to. If you do not want to believe, and you don't need to believe either, then maybe Islam, or any other religions, is not just for you. You need to look elsewhere for ways to improve your life. Yasnov
  8. Tanker? What? To whom did you ask that question? Yasnov
  9. Tanker, I'm not a scientist, but if you're curious as to how I applied critical thinking on this was that in the past, medicine were not as widely available as they are in modern times. It's more than one thousands ago when people used anything that were immediately available to them to prevent certain diseases. Today, we have abundant cheap and expensive antibiotic supplies, but it's not a reason to look down on the inexpensive cures people used 1400 years ago. Even Chinese traditional medicine today still use some 'disgusting' animals for medicine. Tribal people living in remote islands also found the cures to their ailments from something that you may never expect. Now, is the hadith in conflict with my desire to submit to the Creator? No, I don't feel it to be so. As I said, I'm not a scientist and I didn't live in that era and didn't see the flies with my own eyes. Maybe certain flies have antidote. From http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2002/10/01/689400.htm : (This is an official Government web site) From http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15462958 : (Another official Government web site) http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S1517-83822008000200035 If your response was, that is still disgusting. Why don't just get a new drink then? It's a desert, and water of course were so valuable, you couldn't just throw away a glass of water when you lived in desert 1400 years ago. People even fought and waged war against each other over water. That's what I think of the situation. Yasnov
  10. llogical, Education and critical thinking are the key. Values and morals keep changing over time, different places different set of values and morals. Your golden rules values has its own limitations. Whoever has the gold, makes the rules. With education and critical thinking, you would notice how religions are being exploited by a few political elites for their own interests and gains. That's the conflicts and hostilities that you just attributed to religions. So, you an alien. I am a human. I am a human who always want to establish connection with the Superpower out there. The powerful Creator of our Universe, Multiverse. There is always this longing inside to seek Him, and when found him, to communicate with Him constantly. If you don't feel that, and if you don't event want it, then it's fine with me. But is it fine with you? Yasnov
  11. llogical, Strong is a relative word, on a scale of 1-10, it's a 10 for me. I remain a Muslim because I am content with this religion, I am satisifed with the spiritual experience that it offers me. I remain a Muslim due to informed knowledge about this religion and other religions as well. As Eclipse said above, thinking for yourself independent of what is taught or written in a book, and that's why education is important. And this is even recommended by Islam to read, Iqra, Read. So, you can learn. If the imaginary Jew with all his spiritual holidays remains a Jew after going the same process as me, then good for him, and in that case, Lakum dinukum waliya dini, meaning: "To you be your religion, and to me my religion." Yasnov
  12. Hi Ilogical, When I was a kid, I was a Muslim because it's my parents' religion, and it's also the religion embraced by most people in thea area where I lived in. But now, as a grown up who can think for myself, and I realize that the reason that I am now still a Muslim because I do want to be a Muslim, and to remain a Muslim. I feel peace of mind with the teachings of Islam, its logics and the spiritual experiences that it offer me. I learned about many other religions, and found many things that do not make sense even in their basic concepts of God and Divinity, not to mention the way they pray that do not make sense to me either. So, I am fully satisifed with my religion. It's my choice now to remain a Muslim. Yasnov
  13. Hi llogical, Maybe your question will be more valid if you ask what are Muslims countries' contribution to today's world... But if you insist that it is Islam's contribution that you're asking, then Islam has always offered its Islamic values, traits, and morals to the world, whether in the past, in the present, or in the future. And what is the most appealing pitch (Dawah) to a non Muslim other than the Islamic values, traits and morals themselves. More and more people are embracing this religions because of these Yasnov
  14. Hi llogical, As an individual Muslim, I think I have contributed to my society in my own little way, doing good deeds, maintaining modesty and decency and doing some other good things, as instructed by my religion. And I believe other individual Muslims have done the same as well in their own way, helping people, doing good deeds, and etc. Now, the problem is, as a whole, Muslims today are just separate individuals or groups. So, you can't really ask what Islam has contributed in today's world unless you believe that there is a Muslim Caliphate today where all the Muslims are united under One Nation. On the same note, I wouldn't ask, what agnostics' contribution to today's world before I make sure that they have their own formal organized system that offically identify the group that they belong to. But if you insist, the decency and modesty in the way Muslims dress are the dying trait that is getting more relevant in today's world of increasing immodesty, indecency and vulgarity. In many cases, it's been proven as the most appealing pitch (Dawah) to a non Muslim. Hope you understand what I'm saying. Yasnov
  15. What Has Happened To The Forum?

    Assalamu'alaikum Wr.Wb. It's good to be posting again here. I am an old member. Yes, it's true what Bro Dot said. Things change and people move on with their own life. I, too, rarely visit this forum, maybe once in three or four months or even more, just when I remembered it and mainly just to check if this site still exists :( or when I got nostalgic, wondering about the old members that I used to discuss and debate things with, wondering if they still visited this forum, members like Russ of Vespucia, Wise Guy, Livius and the guy that keeps changing his name in the political forum and always used a space before or after a period and comma :) I still quite remember them all to this day. Strangely enough, all those forum members held a place in my heart, and hope that life's treating them good. Regarding this site, it has changed a lot from several years ago. Frankly speaking, I missed the old design and colour of Gawaher. The current one seems dull and pale in my eyes, sorry :( Many of its features have changed too. Now it seems you cannot see members who are online. I used to be able to view that. I wish best of luck with this Forum. Hope more people will come here to discuss and learn more about Islam. Wassalam Yasnov
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