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  1. Osama Bin Laden Is Dead, Hurray!

    Thank you for posting this. You have shown a huge difference in the mindset between western thought and stereotypical Islamic thought. I'm glad that in your mind the benefit of: Degrading someone and their belief system outweighs the death of innocent people. Your post above seems to imply things I never said, that's the truth. Sad thing is, you are not an American, yet have decided to lump me in with some completely untrue stereotype because you seem so clueless about actual Americans.
  2. Osama Bin Laden Is Dead, Hurray!

    Excuse? I'm glad you've already made up your mind about it. I'm sure ego is what you should be striving for. Doesn't make sense? You cannot be so naive to not think that if the US captured Bin Laden, alive, that every day hundreds of threats would pour in demanding his release. So now the government has to sort through all theses threats, figure out which ones are real, and stop them. PLUS now even more people with anti-American views are uniting demanding his release, complaining about a lack of fair trial etc etc. Yes America is going to go through all this so they can what....? Show off? GREAT IDEA! I'm glad your not in charge of any political system affiliated with me. I'll take my safety over some ego boosting any day thanks. As for the "conspiracy theorist." If Osama was already dead, or it was just a lie, why oh why would they not have done this like 1-3 months before the election? I mean then it would be super topical! But no by election time I doubt it will even be discussed as if you followed American politics you would know that unless some sort of attack happens to the US, America's safety and being tough on terrorism is NOT going to be one of the big talking points anyways in 2012. Everything's going to be ECONOMY ECONOMY. Killing Osama, especially, 18 months before an election isn't even that helpful.
  3. Osama Bin Laden Is Dead, Hurray!

    I like that I posted exactly why they wouldn't show his body and dump it ASAP, and no one refuted my points just continued to say the same thing over and over and over and over....
  4. Atheist's Psychology

    1-2 are not proof of God. Having a question that someone doesn't know the answer too doesn't mean it has to be God. Also your points don't acknowledge the existence of an infinitely expanding and collapsing universe. 3. That's not what the second law of thermodynamics means. "The second law of thermodynamics is an expression of the tendency that over time, differences in temperature, pressure, and chemical potential equilibrate in an isolated physical system. From the state of thermodynamic equilibrium, the law deduced the principle of the increase of entropy and explains the phenomenon of irreversibility in nature." -wiki Also recently someone may have proved this law wrong. 4.Not even a little. Actually everyone working together for the common good means everyone will be happy and safe and thus benefit the individuals as well as everyone. Also one does not have to be religious to be empathetic. In fact empathy could be explained by evolution. 5. That's not a scientific law. That's a theory. 6. I have no idea what you are talking about. How does one commit a crime unconsciously? Atheist do not deny abstract reality such as the mind. 7. "Human rights is metaphysical pure issue and your saying that human beings are equal this is possible only if the human is a creature of God" this is entirely your opinion. Again empathy and working together for a common good makes sense on a societal and evolutionary level. 8. Opinion. 9. See #1 10. Or through the luck of the draw and evolution we came up on top and are currently the dominant species of the planet. With your logic are all rich and powerful people chosen by God because they are better off? 11. As many times as I try to re-read this I can't understand what you're trying to say. 12. Opinion plus #1 13. Opinion + philosophy =/= science 14. Darwinism has nothing to do with Nazi eugenics. First off Darwin wasn't creating some sort of societal doctrine, rather observing a possible theory for how physical attributes form an pass on. This has nothing to do with how a society should be run. Second all forms of eugenics have been based off racism, if they really were trying to achieve a stronger healthier human through evolutionary means they would mix races as this has been scientifically proven to create stronger healthier offspring in all animals. Third this whole point HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SCIENCE. Your also trying to put all of atheism under the actions of a few. That would be like me saying Islam is a violent religion because Islamic followers attacked the World Trade Center. I'm sure no one on this board would agree that is a fair accusation to make. (I'd also love to see where you got that Karl Marx quote s I have a hard time believing it's true or not taken completely out of context. 15. Again you are confusing atheist as people who are completely left brained people who have no understanding or appreciation for abstract things such as philosophy, and the arts. This is completely not true, entirey your opinion and has nothing to do with "evidence." 16.Opinion opinion opinion. Also Appeal to Authority is a logical fallacy. 17. See #1 18. As I said in another post, there are many things ancient cultures did or figured out that seem unlikely or implausible or even impossible based on their technology at the time. That doesn't validate their religion. 19. So what? #1 again. 20. Appeal to Authority. There you have it. At the end of the day religious people have to understand one thing. YOU WILL NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, be able to LOGICALLY prove to someone that God exists. God is a feeling. An experience. You know God through experience not through logic.
  5. Black Holes Described By God In The Quran

    I never understood this line of logic. Ancient Greeks knew about Atoms and that the world was really round. I don't think that gives proof to ancient Greek religion. And of course we have all those weird thing's like the Nazca lines, pyramids in perfect astrological positioning, and the Puma Punku ruins. An ancient structure which to this day no one knows how it could have been built without modern machines. Does this prove their religions is true? What about the bible code? Many believe you can read the future from the Torah. (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetyoutube(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/watch?v=SEQ4LGssULE"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetyoutube(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/watch?v=SEQ4LGssULE[/url]
  6. Osama Bin Laden Is Dead, Hurray!

    Bringing Osama back as a prison would be a HORRIBLE IDEA. Yes it would be all nice and great from a political end for Americans, but your forgetting about what his supporters would do. Suddenly terrorist threats come from all over the world declaring that more attacks will happen to Americans until Osama is released from custody. So now the the American government has to deal with figuring out which attacks will actually occur and stop them for the year+ long trial and media circus that will erupt around Osama. The whole time Osama appearing as a hero to his supporters, unable to get a fair trial. This is why the administration doesn't want to release a photo. It would give the movement an image to rally behind. A fallen hero that they could past on signs and cheer for. If this was some sort of conspiracy as others have said, they would have claimed to have killed him much closer to election time. If you don't think Americans will forget much in 18 months then your not an American. 18 months is forever away in American politics.
  7. I was wondering how everyone feels about psychic healing? Real or Fake? Good or Bad? Interestingly enough new research in quantum physics are coming up with much evidence to support it.
  8. Fatah And Hamas

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA thats a good one. You had me going there for a second. :sl:
  9. A Very Good Article About Iraqi Ressistance In Guardian

    World people like who? Yeah they make money, but they would be making billions more if Iraq was co-operating Bush should care cause it makes the Republican party look bad which means they wont get elected which means the wont get money I'll give you that much :sl:
  10. Muslim Armies

    What do you mean why not? You didn't answer my question, only stated that they are stubtle. Not stubtle because....?
  11. Matt Lauer Corners Bush On Torture

    Go Matt Lauer!
  12. The Uk, Us And Israeli Regimes Bomb Civilian Targets In Iraq

    Are you claiming that the supposed Zionist world control conspiracy of all western countries is not true? -Also during WWII Germany, Italy, Japan attacked countries of similar military might. These countries came together and fended them off. If the US, UK, and israel decided to just bomb all middle eastern countries into the ground who would stop them? The contries they would bomb do not have proper defense to stop that kind of attack? Are you claiming other evil western countries would come to the middle easts aid?
  13. The Video That Expose The Zionist Genocide Of Palestinians

    The Yom Kippur War {Moderator note} This post violated forum rule #39. Action taken. View (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetgawaher(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/index.php?act=boardrules"]details[/url].
  14. The Greater Israel

    This is tragic. It much like te vietnam war. Enemy combatants strap bombs to child's chest and send them at American troops. Hide guns in old womans houses, attacking from all angles making US troops very paranoid, tense, and crazy. Than they come to a village that has no enemy combatants, and end up killing a bunch of people in fear. israel is unfortanetly under the same scenario, only they've been their for far longer. This is one of the huge drawbacks and horrors of a group or people using such horrid tactics like suicide bombings and such against a country. It ends up hurting them more than helping. {Moderator note} This post violated forum rule #31. Action taken. View (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetgawaher(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/index.php?act=boardrules"]details[/url].
  15. Muslim Armies

    ###### to failed to answer my question entirely. Instead you just post more "supposed" bad things US has done. I guess this means you don't have a real answer.
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