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kwasia posted a topic in Refuting non-MuslimsI am a Palestinian â€“American citizen who grew up as an israeli citizen My friend and uncle were killed by Hamas.I see Islam from this and the qur'an. Ishaq:510 â€œWhen the Apostle looked down on Khaybar [a Jewish settlement ] he told his Companions, â€˜O Allah,. We take refuge in Thee from its evil and the evil of its people. Forward in the name of Allah.â€™ He used to say this of every town he raided.â€ Ishaq:511 Bukhari:V5B59N512 Qurâ€™an 5:33: â€œThe punishment for those who wage war against Allah and His Prophet and perpetrate mischief [reject Islam or oppose its goals] in the land, is to murder them, to hang them, to mutilate them, or banish them. â€ Bukhari:V4B52N50 Ishaq:587 Qurâ€™an 9:88 Qurâ€™an 9:5 â€œFight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, ..â€ Qurâ€™an 9:111 Qurâ€™an 8:39 Ishaq:324 â€œQurâ€™an 9:14 Ishaq:300 â€œQurâ€™an 8:65 Bukhari:V4B52N63 â€œBukhari:V4B52N220 Qurâ€™an 8:57 â€œQurâ€™an 8:67 Ishaq:588 â€œWhen the Apostle descends on your land none of your people will be left when he leaves.â€ Ishaq:327 â€™â€ Qurâ€™an 8:7 â€œAllah wished to confirm the truth by His words: â€˜Wipe the infidels out to the last.â€™â€ (Qurâ€™an 5:72 defines â€œinfidelsâ€ as â€œChristiansâ€ in case you were wondering.) Qurâ€™an 8:12 I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.â€ Qurâ€™an 8:15 â€œQurâ€™an 8:59 Qurâ€™an 8:60 Qurâ€™an 8:71 Ishaq:322Ishaq:204 Ishaq:471 Qurâ€™an 4:77 â€œ Bukhari:V4B52N44 Bukhari:V1B2N25 Qurâ€™an 33:22 Bukhari:V4B53N412 Qurâ€™an 4:95 Qurâ€™an 47:4 Qurâ€™an 2:216 â€œNoble Qurâ€™an 2:190 Footnote: â€œJihad is holy fighting in Allahâ€™s Cause .. It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars. By Jihad Islam is established, Allahâ€™s Word is made superior and Islam is propagated. By abandoning Jihad Islam is destroyed and Muslims fall into an inferior position; .. Qurâ€™an 47:33 Qurâ€™an 9:3 â€œBukhari:V9B84N59 â€œQurâ€™an 8:58 â€œQurâ€™an 48:11 Qurâ€™an 4:89 Qurâ€™an 47:20 â€œQurâ€™an 47:21 The words inside parenthesis were added by the Islamic translators Qurâ€™an 9:16 Qurâ€™an 9:38 Qurâ€™an 9:44 â€œQurâ€™an 9:48 â€œ Qurâ€™an 9:67 Qurâ€™an 9:68 â€œQurâ€™an 9:81 Qurâ€™an 9:85 Qurâ€™an 9:90 â€œQurâ€™an 9:93 Qurâ€™an 9:97 â€œQurâ€™an 9:120 Qurâ€™an 8:72 â€œQurâ€™an 8:73 â€œ Ishaq:406 Ishaq:414 If you insult Allahâ€™s Apostle, Allah will slay you. â€ Ishaq:576 Tabari IX:69 â€œArabs ...are Allahâ€™s helpers. We fight people until they believe in Allah. ... As for one who disbelieves, we will fight him forever in the Cause of Allah. Killing him is a small matter to us.â€ Qurâ€™an 61:4 Bukhari:V4B53N386 â€œIshaq:315 Tabari IX:69 Tabari VIII:141 Bukhari:V5B59N512 Ishaq:489 â€œQurâ€™an 33:60 Qurâ€™an 3:19 Qurâ€™an 8:24 Qurâ€™an 4:80 Bukhari:V4B52N203 â€œQurâ€™an 33:36 Qurâ€™an 87:10 Qurâ€™an 4:114 â€œQurâ€™an 49:16 â€œSay: â€˜Qurâ€™an 9:53 â€œSay: Qurâ€™an 5:4 Qurâ€™an 5:7 â€œQurâ€™an 5:92 Qurâ€™an 48:10 Qurâ€™an 58:46 Qurâ€™an 24:51 â€œQurâ€™an 56:57 Bukhari: V9B89N256 Bukhari:V9B89N258
kwasia replied to kwasia's topic in Refuting non-MuslimsAnger can help us only if we use it constructively. My anger is now focused on revealing the truth of Islam. Am I wrong to suggest that Muhammed claimed mecca by force by giving the leadership at the time an ultimatum, Submit to Allah or die? While muslims on this site focus their religion on the qurans teachings about love , peace and harmony within the Ummah, they neglect to tell us how muslims are to associate with outsiders who reject or insult their beliefs. Your last statement belies your own anger as well as the typical muslim defense of terrorism which suggests the US or israels is indirectly to blame for atrocities committed against them. You continue to portray yourselves as victims while your prophet and consequently your religion focuses on victimizing outsiders. The US would not be in Iraq if the muslims would commit to policing their own. And in answer to the other writer who suggested that israelis would have exploited the news that palestinians killed other palestinians: it need not be exploited because groups like hamas have admited such actions being taken on their own website.
kwasia replied to kwasia's topic in Refuting non-Muslims. If they are taken out of context , then take at least one quotation Such as, 8:12 and put it into context for me. I have quoted so many. And all are out of context, so enlighten me. Some of the quotes have muhammed ordering the death of persons. Find the same thing in the new testament for me! I will take these 2 scriptures and enlighten you. The meaning of one "inclining towards peace" is the one who submits to Islam. Mohammed asked the rulers of pre-islamic mecca to submit to Allah and recognize him as his prophet and they "will have peace". When he did not submit, What happened? When jews did not follow Jesus, what happened to them? Notice also that God advoctaes justice and charity towards fellow muslims alone, and those who submit to Allah. Please look at the palestinian authorities website, then look at Hamas website. The palestinians authority claims a muslim identity. Hamas claims to have a military wing that carries out jihad against palestinians deemed as traitors to the Islamic cause. My uncle was killed because he did not submit to Islam and he lived in peace with the jews. Peace in Islam comes when everyone submits to Islam. Western countries , particularly the US have plenty of muslims and people of other religions and non-religions. We are not the Christian republic of the US either. Yet how many countries in the world claim an Islamic identity with even symbols of Islam in their flags, and laws prohibiting the defamation of Islam or mohammed . And how many restrict the freedoms of other religions or outright condemns them. perhaps you should start criticizing your own governemnt institutions more and even fight them, then you wont have the likes of the US invading your Islamic republics. Peace k