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  1. The Muhammad Cartoons

    Shocker you speak of Galileo, but when Socrates is mentioned you hang your head low.
  2. Re: Was Jesus God

    Also, Jesus did not necessarily bring about a new religion. From a secular, worldly point of view, yes he brought about "Christianity." But this had been in God's plans since the very beginning of time. Jesus was the fulfillment of the Jewish Pentateuch or Torah or Law or whatever you want to call it. Jesus himself said, "I have come to fulfill the law." He was the Messiah sent to the Jewish people, but they did not recognize him as such. Instead, caught up in their own little religious ceremonies and games, they rejected him as Savior, and they killed him on a cross, and the third day he rose from the dead. But Jesus knew he was going to die. He regularly spoke of how "the Son of man would be killed by the chief priests and scribes, and the third day would rise again." Any amateur student of the Scriptures can read these plain passages. Also, if Jesus did not mean to "start a new religion," then what about Matthew 28:19? In it Jesus tells his disciples, "Go ye therefore and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." What about Acts 1:8? Jesus says to disciples, " But ye shall receive power after that the Holy Ghost is come upon, and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem and in all Judaea and in Samaria and unto the uttermost parts of the earth." Do not try to say that Jesus did not come to "start a new religion." He obviously came to bring something new. I do not know where you came up with these ideas, but they are simply not true. Go do a careful study of the most reliable historical document in the world--the Bible. Write back and take care. God bless!! [/i] Please dont delete my post, i only ask for answers...
  3. Re: Was Jesus God

    Here is a repost of my post: This is simply not true. This is a myth and a falsehood that seems to be circuiting through the society right now, the idea that Jesus never referred to himself as the son of God, and he did not mean (I assume this is what you meant when you said he did not bring about a new religion, because he is obviously brought about a new religion--Chrisitianity) to bring about a new religion. The truth is, according to the Bible, Jesus referred to himself as the Son of God and the Son of man many, many times. Many of these are recorded in the book of John, but the other three gospels contain these references too. In one place, Jesus healed a blind man and asked him if he "believed on the Son of God." The blind man said, "Who is he Lord, that I may believe on him?" Jesus answered, "It is both he that healed you, and he that speaketh to you right now." Of course this is only one example and there are many more in the Scripture. Do not try to say that Jesus did not refer to himself as the Son of God, unless of course, you say the writers of these gospels just lied in saying that Jesus referred to himself as the Son of God, when he really didn't. That they just make that up and lied. Many of these writers gave their lives for the gospel of Christ and for Christianity. People don't die for something they know is false. If these writers knew that it was all the big hoax, do you really think they would have given their lives for it? No, of course not. People don't die for things they know are hoaxes (if that's a word). Why do you think the Jews hated Jesus so much anyways? Because he claimed to be God. The Pharisee picked up stones to stone Jesus one day. Jesus asked them, " For which of my good works do you stone me?" The Pharisees replied, " We are not stoning you for your good works. We are stoning you because you being a man, make yourself God." Jesus both claimed to be the Son of God and to be equal with God. Anyone who claims otherwise must present proof, and I must admit, there is not proof to present.
  4. Hello to all, a while ago my other thread had been deleted and i have no idea why; my intention is not to talk badly about Muslims, simply i want a better understanding of your Religion, so i may understand what you say...
  5. Was Jesus Really God?

    I cannot edit so ignore the "Stranger" and read it as Amani.
  6. Was Jesus Really God?

    [Regarding Jesus (peace be upon him) - he himself never said he was the son of God so this is actually a lie against him. he did not bring about a new religion. Stranger, this is simply not true. This is a myth and a falsehood that seems to be circuiting through the society right now, the idea that Jesus never referred to himself as the son of God, and he did not mean (I assume this is what you meant when you said he did not bring about a new religion, because he is obviously brought about a new religion--Chrisitianity) to bring about a new religion. The truth is, according to the Bible, Jesus referred to himself as the Son of God and the Son of man many, many times. Many of these are recorded in the book of John, but the other three gospels contain these references too. In one place, Jesus healed a blind man and asked him if he "believed on the Son of God." The blind man said, "Who is he Lord, that I may believe on him?" Jesus answered, "It is both he that healed you, and he that speaketh to you right now." Of course this is only one example and there are many more in the Scripture. Do not try to say that Jesus did not refer to himself as the Son of God, unless of course, you say the writers of these gospels just lied in saying that Jesus referred to himself as the Son of God, when he really didn't. That they just make that up and lied. Many of these writers gave their lives for the gospel of Christ and for Christianity. People don't die for something they know is false. If these writers knew that it was all the big hoax, do you really think they would have given their lives for it? No, of course not. People don't die for things they know are hoaxes (if that's a word). Why do you think the Jews hated Jesus so much anyways? Because he claimed to be God. The Pharisee picked up stones to stone Jesus one day. Jesus asked them, " For which of my good works do you stone me?" The Pharisees replied, " We are not stoning you for your good works. We are stoning you because you being a man, make yourself God." Jesus both claimed to be the Son of God and to be equal with God. Anyone who claims otherwise must present proof, and I must admit, there is not proof to present. Also, Jesus did not necessarily bring about a new religion. From a secular, worldly point of view, yes he brought about "Christianity." But this had been in God's plans since the very beginning of time. Jesus was the fulfillment of the Jewish Pentateuch or Torah or Law or whatever you want to call it. Jesus himself said, "I have come to fulfill the law." He was the Messiah sent to the Jewish people, but they did not recognize him as such. Instead, caught up in their own little religious ceremonies and games, they rejected him as Savior, and they killed him on a cross, and the third day he rose from the dead. But Jesus knew he was going to die. He regularly spoke of how "the Son of man would be killed by the chief priests and scribes, and the third day would rise again." Any amateur student of the Scriptures can read these plain passages. Also, if Jesus did not mean to "start a new religion," then what about Matthew 28:19? In it Jesus tells his disciples, "Go ye therefore and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." What about Acts 1:8? Jesus says to disciples, " But ye shall receive power after that the Holy Ghost is come upon, and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem and in all Judaea and in Samaria and unto the uttermost parts of the earth." Do not try to say that Jesus did not come to "start a new religion." He obviously came to bring something new. Stranger, I do not know where you came up with these ideas, but they are simply not true. Go do a careful study of the most reliable historical document in the world--the Bible. Write back and take care. God bless!!
  7. One of the major doctrines and themes of the Bible is the revelation of Jesus as God. The name Jesus is in fact the same name that God in the Old Testament used to reveal himself to people such as Moses, Abraham, and many others. Jesus means "Jehovah Savior." In the Old Testament, Jehovah God revealed many of his characteristics through names. For example, the name Jehovah-jireh (the Lord my provider) was revealed to Abraham when Jehovah provided a ram for him and his son Isaac, seconds (presumably) before Abraham was about to offer Isaac as a burnt sacrifice. (Genesis 22) He wanted to show that he was "the Lord that provides." When he revealed Jesus or "the Lord that saves" he wanted to show that characteristic of his personality. That is one reason why I believe that Jesus was God. Why do not Muslims believe that Jesus was God? Is it stated in the Qur'an? How do Muslims know that Jesus was not God in the flesh? Is it impossible for God to take a form that is visible to humans? Is it impossible to see God? Can God not do something? Why do Muslims believe what they believe? God bless!
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