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  1. Is It Possible

    :D Please vote and discuss.
  2. The Big Bang

    Does anyone here not beleive in the big bang? I know some people in my school who don't. If you don't, who come?
  3. "Allah's Apostle once said to a group of women : 'I have not seen any one more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious, sensible man could be led astray by some of you.' The women asked: 'O Allah's Apostle, what is deficient in our intelligence and religion?' He said: 'Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?' They replied in the affirmative. He said: 'This is the deficiency of your intelligence' ... 'Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?' The women replied in the affirmative. He said: 'This is the deficiency in your religion.'" -Sahih Bukhari, Arabic-English translation, vol. 1, 1 Hadith No. 301. See also vol. 3, Hadith No. 826.
  4. What Exactly Does This Mean?

    :sl: I'm being sent to a broken link page.
  5. Can A Good Muslims Also Be Secularist?

    Common sense? Can one be a good Muslim and not live in a theocratic totalitarian Islamic government? YES![using large font size is not allowed]
  6. Is This Sesxism In Islam?

    It seems to me that the first verse you posted says that women should cover their bosoms. Women before Islam wore head coverings anyways because it was Arabia, but that doesn't mean that as long as women dress modestly that means that they have to be totally covered and noticeable, esspecially when men don't have to wear any distinct clothing. That, of course, would be sexist. As to the second verse, it says it would be better as women would not be annoyed, but that doesn't mean it's mandatory. And then as in a direct confirmation of this, it says that God is forgiving and merciful, making it seem as though if you did not wear a hijab God would forgive and understand.
  7. Is This Sesxism In Islam?

    :sl: What I don't understand is why no one provides any scriptural basis for their sexist claims. Which verse of the Qu'ran says that women can't lead a country? Which verse of the Qur'an says that women can't recite the Qur'an? Which verse of the Qur'an says that all women must wear a hijab? Which verse of the Qur'an justifies the rampant sexism that is extreamly present in the Islamic world today? And before I get slammed with articles by various scholars, I am saying now that they do not constitute proof. Which verse of the Qu'ran says I have to listen to scholars? Again, I want Qur'an verses only.
  8. Is This Sesxism In Islam?

    The above poster seems to not know at all what he is talking about. FOR EXAMPLE: Can a woman rule a country? No Not only do we see that the poster doesn't give any scriptural basis, but we see he is simply proven wrong by the fact that Islamic countries, such as Pakistan, have female leaders. Just because some posters here are sexist pigs, and most scholars, does not mean that Islam is sexist. :sl:
  9. Merry X-mas?

    :D I don't consider Christians to be unbelievers, and quite frankly, neither does the Qur'an. [2.62] Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve. [2.113] And the Jews say: The Christians do not follow anything (good) and the Christians say: The Jews do not follow anything (good) while they recite the (same) Book. Even thus say those who have no knowledge, like to what they say; so Allah shall judge between them on the day of resurrection in what they differ. [5.69] Surely those who believe and those who are Jews and the Sabians and the Christians whoever believes in Allah and the last day and does good-- they shall have no fear nor shall they grieve. [29.46] And argue not with the People of the Scripture unless it be in (a way) that is better, save with such of them as do wrong; and say: We believe in that which hath been revealed unto us and revealed unto you; our God and your God is One, and unto Him we surrender. S. 29:46 Christmas is a Merry time indeed, and I hope that all who celebrate it enjoy themselves. For this reason, if someone wishes me "Merry Christmas", I will wish them one back. However, Luke, you've gone too far. Something Bin Laden would be proud of? The people who both wrote and posted this are not Bin Laden, do not support Bin Laden, do not respect Bin Laden, and should not be compared to Bin Laden. Everyone here is entitled to their opinions, including you. However, just because you disagree with their opinions does not make it appropriate for you to compare them to a mass murderer of 3,000 people. You're a Buddhist, so please consider right speech.
  10. The Battle Of The Camel

    :D I believe the rule is against discussing the sects in general; I never even said the word shia, you brought it up. If Reza Aslan is a shia, then so be it. That doesn't mean I'm discussing shiaism. I myself am not a shia, but I still have a lot of respect for Reza Aslan from the interviews I've seen and the books I've read of his. Do you know what an ad hominem is? Basically, it involves replying to an argument or assertion by attacking the person presenting the argument or assertion rather than the argument itself. It is a logical fallacy. Sure, maybe Reza Aslan is a shia, but does that make what he says incorrect? If he was a Sunni and said the same thing, would that give the exact same argument more merit? Of course not. Therefore, the argument still stands.
  11. Cruel Hadith

    :D Please tell me that I am somehow grossly misenterpreting these:
  12. Cruel Hadith

    :D illogical I have personally seen people turn a blind eye to facts in order to justify their prejudice against Islam. All the people on the forum as "Faith Freedom International" refuse to acknowledge anything good about Islam, Muslims, or Muhammad. It is quite absurd. Even if you don't believe he is a prophet, you should at least acknowledge the fact that he is a social reformer who did nothing but benefit the Arabia in general. But when people reject a religion, especially one that proselytizes a lot, the more they demonize it, the safer they feel about not being a part of it. That is why you will find the most demonizing comments coming from apostates. This is the difference between rejecting Islam, and just not being a Muslim.
  13. The Battle Of The Camel

    :D Aslan, Reza. No God But God. New York: Random House Trade Paperbacks, 2006. 120, 130.
  14. The Battle Of The Camel

    :D It would be helpful to know if that was said before or after the incident with Safwan.
  15. The Battle Of The Camel

    :D I think it's pretty well established that Aisha hated Ali. During the incident between Aisha and Safwan, Ali thought that Muhammad should divorce Aisha because of the scandal, regardless of her guilt or innocence. Aisha was not happy about this. When Muhammad ran to her to tell her about the revelation that proved her innocence, she said "To God's praise and your blame!" However, after this incident, neither Aisha and Abu Bakr forgave Ali. Aisha was not a mediator, as people have said. In fact, after the death of Uthman, she rallied support in Mecca against Ali. If Aisha really thought that Ali were responsible for the death of Uthman, she probably wouldn't have cared. However, to Aisha, Uthmans murder was a good opportunity to replace Ali, probably with Talha or Zubayr. Aisha, with the help of these two, led a massive contingent of Meccans against Ali's forces that were in Medina.
  16. Cruel Hadith

    :D I hope you mean deaf, blind, and dumb in a figurative sense.
  17. I Need Help With Hthis Rushdie Issue

    :D This is pretty sick. As Karen Armstrong points out in her book "Muhammad: A biography of the prophet", Muslim law does not permit a man to be sentenced to death without trial and has not juristiction outside the Islamic world. At the Islamic Conference of March 1989, fourty-four of the fourty-five member states unanumously rejected the Ayatollah's ruling. Take the site down: keeping it up would be UnIslamic.
  18. :D Congratulations, Letzebuerg. It's nice to hear that you've chosen such a nice path for your life. I thought it was interesting to hear that this forum is what caused you to take the Shahada. I was reading through your earliest posts, and I must say, that is quite a transformation. (www.)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_www.gawaher(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/index.php?showtopic=34472&hl="]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_www.gawaher(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/index.php?showtopic=34472&hl=[/url] (www.)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_www.gawaher(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/index.php?showtopic=34469&hl="]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_www.gawaher(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/index.php?showtopic=34469&hl=[/url] Your first posts seem disingenuous, to say the least. But as I read on and on, the demeanor of your posts increased in genuity, as did their sincerity and their contribution. I reverted around 5 months ago, and I must say, it can be tough. But be strong, think a lot, read a lot. Karen Armstrong and Reza Aslan are a good place to start.
  19. Cruel Hadith

    :D Well, I may have settled on the Karen Armstrong synopsis. As she says in her book "Muhammad: A Prophet For Our Time", Muhammad was "a complex man, who resists facile, ideologically-driven categorization, who sometimes did things that were difficult or impossible to accept, but who had profound genius and founded a religion and cultural tradition that was not based on the sword but whose name - 'Islam' - signified peace and reconciliation." Armstrong, in the introduction to her book "Muhammad: A biography of the Prophet", says "I am no longer a believing or practicing Christian nor do I belong to any other official religion. But at the same time as I have been revising my ideas about Islam, I have also been reconsidering the religious experience itself. In all the great religions, seers and prophets have conceived strikingly similar visions of a transcendent and ultimate reality. However we choose to interpret it, this human experience has been a fact of life. Indeed, Buddhists deny that there is anything supernatural about it: it is a state of mind that is natural to humanity. The monotheistic faiths, however, call this transcendence 'God'. I believe that Muhammad had such an experience and made a distinctive and valuable contribution to the spiritual experience of humanity." I tend to agree
  20. Cruel Hadith

    :D What do you mean illogical?
  21. Assalamu Alaikom. Throughout the history of the world, it has been undoubtedly clear that the most successful states in the world were ones who were secular. I think it is impossible to promote one religion without suppressing others. So this brings up a question: can a country has Islamic values while still being secular? I think that, from an Islamic standpoint, this is not only possible, but encouraged. Before anyone points out the obvious, I will say that yes, Muhammad did not rule in a secular way at all. However, when judging how one should rule, we should not look to Muhammad's use of Islam as the way we should use Islam. The reason he was able to successfully rule in an un secular state was because of his position as messenger of God. Since no one else is the messenger of God, no one else has the authority to rule on issues of religion. In my opinion, it is not laws that makes a society an Islamic one. The community must first adopt Islamic values on its own. We do not need to force Islam on anyone according to the Qur'an. Allah tells us that truth stands out clear from error, and it also tells us that oppression is worse than slaughter. It doesn't say that oppression Muslims is worse than murder, it says that oppression is worse than murder - period. If Muslims oppress Christians, Jews, Buddhists, then they are committing a sin. Given, in theory, it is possible to have an Islamic government without the oppressing other religions. However, human inhibitions have consistently made it so that there has never been a religious theocracy of any type that has not oppressed. For all of these reasons, I think that a truly Islamic society should be one that is secular. If you agree, please say so. If not, please say why.
  22. Adultery

    :D The first claim is false, the second and third claims have no basis. Have a nice day. Also, don't change the subject with your straw-man arguments. This topic has nothing to do with the U.S.
  23. Cruel Hadith

    :D By what you consider to be rational, atheism is not the rational choice - agnosticism is. Atheism is the doctrine or belief that there is no God. There is no evidence that there isn't a God; although I recognize that this is not proof for God. For example, lets say you are standing in front of a door. You don't know what's on the other side of the door, but someone tells you it's a chair. Just because you don't know for a fact that there is a chair on the other side doesn't mean that there isn't a chair there. In otherwords, a lack of logical proof for god does not uphold the viewpoint that there is no God. Futhermore, faith does not imply blindness by definition, as you implied. If this were the case, then there wouldn't be a seperate thing called "blind faith" as opposed to just "faith".
  24. Cruel Hadith

    :D If something is not supported by scientific evidence, it does not nessicarilly mean that it is based on blindness. Atheism isn't supported by scientific evidence either. When speaking of things divine, it is impossible to define it in scientific terms unless it violates other know scientific facts. However, for me to ignore hadiths, despite my values, would be even more blind, as I would be turning a blind eye.
  25. Cruel Hadith

    :D Yes, this is the case with that certain tribe. However, while some of the leaders did, I don't think that every boy in the tribe had a hand in it. I mean, I was an adolesant by 6th grade. While I realize that what was done was the tribal custom of the time; it was the perscribed punishment for Arabs breaking a custom. But just because it was common doesn't mean it was right. [at] Haqqul_Yaqeen I know this verse, and I appriciate you bringing it up. However, these hadith show very little mercy. I can't think of an instence where putting hot nails through someones eyes as a punishment is right. Taking a life should not incurr torture and then taking life. Also, stoning for adultery is not life for life, nor is it eye for eye. Adultery does not kill anyone. For theft, a stolen item can be given back. The taking of a hand is permanent. Is it not better to identify my problem, and express it to my Muslim brothers and sisters rather than to keep it to myself. Faith should never be blind - ever.