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  1. Sadaam Helps Out His 'buddies'

    Boy, I'm glad I'm not a terrorist. Numbers 4, 6, 7, 8, 11, 12 and especially 10 are going to be tough.
  2. Sadaam Helps Out His 'buddies'

    (www.)"foxnews/story/0,2933,202277,00.html"]FoxNews[/url] How's that, Z ?
  3. Sadaam Helps Out His 'buddies'

    I'll try that again.
  4. Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria, Official Says By Samantha L. Quigley American Forces Press Service WASHINGTON, June 29, 2006 – The 500 munitions discovered throughout Iraq since 2003 and discussed in a National Ground Intelligence Center report meet the criteria of weapons of mass destruction, the center's commander said here today. "These are chemical weapons as defined under the Chemical Weapons Convention, and yes ... they do constitute weapons of mass destruction," Army Col. John Chu told the House Armed Services Committee. The Chemical Weapons Convention is an arms control agreement which outlaws the production, stockpiling and use of chemical weapons. It was signed in 1993 and entered into force in 1997. The munitions found contain sarin and mustard gases, Army Lt. Gen. Michael D. Maples, director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, said. Sarin attacks the neurological system and is potentially lethal. "Mustard is a blister agent (that) actually produces burning of any area (where) an individual may come in contact with the agent," he said. It also is potentially fatal if it gets into a person's lungs. The munitions addressed in the report were produced in the 1980s, Maples said. Badly corroded, they could not currently be used as originally intended, Chu added. While that's reassuring, the agent remaining in the weapons would be very valuable to terrorists and insurgents, Maples said. "We're talking chemical agents here that could be packaged in a different format and have a great effect," he said, referencing the sarin-gas attack on a Japanese subway in the mid-1990s. This is true even considering any degradation of the chemical agents that may have occurred, Chu said. It's not known exactly how sarin breaks down, but no matter how degraded the agent is, it's still toxic. "Regardless of (how much material in the weapon is actually chemical agent), any remaining agent is toxic," he said. "Anything above zero (percent agent) would prove to be toxic, and if you were exposed to it long enough, lethal." Though about 500 chemical weapons - the exact number has not been released publicly - have been found, Maples said he doesn't believe Iraq is a "WMD-free zone." "I do believe the former regime did a very poor job of accountability of munitions, and certainly did not document the destruction of munitions," he said. "The recovery program goes on, and I do not believe we have found all the weapons." The Defense Intelligence Agency director said locating and disposing of chemical weapons in Iraq is one of the most important tasks servicemembers in the country perform. Maples added searches are ongoing for chemical weapons beyond those being conducted solely for force protection. There has been a call for a complete declassification of the National Ground Intelligence Center's report on WMD in Iraq. Maples said he believes the director of national intelligence is still considering this option, and has asked Maples to look into producing an unclassified paper addressing the subject matter in the center's report. Much of the classified matter was slated for discussion in a closed forum after the open hearings this morning. Hello, everyone !!! I'm back !! After a short banning, I've returned. While gone, I noticed that people were still acting and posting as if no W.M.D.'s where ever found in Iraq. People, they WERE found. You can argue that they were 'degraded' or that 'only' 500 were found. But the FACT is, W.M.D.'s WERE FOUND IN IRAQ !! With that off my chest, I'd like to offer everyone a belated Happy Forth of July !! Birthday of the greatest country to ever walk the earth. See you around P.S. If my source isn't good enough, I've got a ton of other articles stating the same..
  5. Sadaam Helps Out His 'buddies'

    So what you're saying is you have no innaccurate news articles that Fox has reported. Correct ? There is a big difference between an article that is false, and an article you don't like. I think we are dealing with the latter. Fair and Balanced !
  6. Chechen President Martyred By Russian Soldiers

    Wait a second ! There REALLY IS a Taliban and Al Qada ?? That's going to ruin a lot of conspiracy theories on this board ! Next you'll say Bin Laden really exists, and isn't a C.I.A. creation. WOW !!! A nd the way everyone just turned on Hamas!!
  7. Sadaam Helps Out His 'buddies'

    That is the second time I've heard that on this site. I asked the first person to show me where Fox inaccurately published a news story. I am still waiting for their proof. How about you, Tony ?
  8. I'm Back ! (and There Was W.m.d.'s In Iraq)

    What ? Are you kidding ?? So there are 'good' W.M.D's and 'bad' W.M.D.'s ?? Give me a break The world was looking for sarin and mustard gases, and that's what they found. !
  9. I'm Back ! (and There Was W.m.d.'s In Iraq)

    Still not true. Try again ?
  10. I'm Back ! (and There Was W.m.d.'s In Iraq)

    So now it's 'of coarse he had them'. Quite a change in direction from ' he never had them.' LOL That's a pretty fast 'backpedal', chief. And the U.S. NEVER gave ANYONE W.M.D.'s. That's a fantasy.
  11. Gis May Have Planned Iraq Rape, Slayings

    This is an easy one. Try them, and if they did it, shoot them. Case closed.
  12. Was The Invasion Of Iraq A Jewish Conspiracy?

    Man, them Jews, again !! If the Jews were HALF as 'bad' as you guys make them out to be, there wouldn't be a Muslim left ! These big, stupid conspiracy theories are why I keep coming back to this site. I laugh my 'you know whats' off every time. You guys never met a conspiracy theory you didn't like, did you ?
  13. Putin Orders Death for Killers of Russians in Iraq New York Times By STEVEN LEE MYERS Published: June 29, 2006 MOSCOW, June 28 — President Vladimir V. Putin on Wednesday ordered Russia's secret services to find and kill those who kidnapped and killed four Russian Embassy employees in Iraq, the Kremlin announced in a statement. The Foreign Ministry confirmed Monday that the kidnapped employees had been killed. The confirmation was made after the release of a short video on an Islamic Web site that showed the beheading of one man, the shooting of another and the body of a third. "The president gave instructions to the Russian special services to take all measures for finding and destroying the criminals who committed this atrocity," the Kremlin said, the official Russian Information Agency reported. Neither news agencies nor state television quoted Mr. Putin making the remark. Interfax quoted only remarks he had made appealing for help in finding those involved during a meeting Wednesday with Prince Salman bin Abdul Aziz of Saudi Arabia. Mr. Putin has made similarly pointed threats against Chechnya's separatist fighters and those who have carried out terrorist attacks in Russia. Early in the second war in Chechnya, Mr. Putin vowed to destroy the separatists in their outhouses. Four Chechen separatist leaders have been killed in strikes or raids since the second war began in 1999, most recently on June 17, when Russian forces killed Abdul Khalim Saidullayev, then the Chechen leader. How Russian agents might carry out Mr. Putin's order in Iraq remains unclear, given how little is known about the group that claimed responsibility for the kidnapping and killings: the Mujahedeen Shura, or Council of Holy Warriors, which says it represents Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia and other insurgent groups in Iraq. The only known instance of Russian special forces carrying out an attack abroad occurred in February 2003, when a bomb destroyed a car being driven in Qatar by Zelimkhan Yandarbiev, another Chechen leader. Although Russia denied involvement, a court in Qatar convicted two Russian secret agents that year and said there was evidence that Mr. Yandarbiev's assassination had been ordered by "the Russian leadership." Nikolai P. Patrushev, the director of the Federal Security Service, said later on Wednesday that no effort would be spared in carrying out Mr. Putin's order "no matter how much time and effort will be needed." "We should be working so that not a single terrorist responsible for the crime would escape responsibility," Mr. Patrushev said in remarks cited by Russian agencies that stopped short of a direct threat to kill those responsible. The United States, with many other countries, has denounced the killings of the five embassy workers — a member of the diplomatic corps whose title was third secretary, a maintenance worker, a driver, a guard and a cook — as acts of terrorism. American military commanders in Iraq had pledged to help find the hostages and, after their deaths, to help find those who killed them. But far from finding common cause over the killings, many Russian officials, clerics, politicians and commentators have placed blame for the killings on the United States and the failure of the American-led forces to provide security. On Wednesday, the lower house of Parliament voted to adopt a statement that referred only to the "occupying countries" in Iraq, but blamed them for the deaths. "We believe they could have prevented the tragedy," the statement said. At the United Nations, the Security Council postponed consideration of a statement condemning the killings after the United States asked for the removal of language that appeared to fault lax security by Baghdad and the coalition forces. The statement, which said the council was "appalled by the horrific death" of the embassy employees, called upon the government of Iraq and "multinational forces" to undertake measures to enhance the security of foreign diplomatic missions. Warren Hoge contributed reporting from the United Nations for this article If the Russians get thier hands on those guys, they'll WISH they were in Abu Ghraib ! How 'ironic' would it be if the Russians hacked the dudes heads off and showed it on Al Jazeera ?
  14. Insurgents Showing Sense ?

    Insurgents offer to end attacks for ’08 U.S. exit Militants set conditions as prime minister offers reconciliation talks NBC NEWS EXCLUSIVE Updated: 30 minutes ago BAGHDAD, Iraq - Eleven Sunni insurgent groups have offered an immediate halt to all attacks — including those on American troops — if the United States agrees to withdraw foreign forces from Iraq in two years, insurgent and government officials told The Associated Press on Wednesday. Withdrawal is the centerpiece of a set of demands from the groups, which operate north of Baghdad in the heavily Sunni Arab provinces of Salahuddin and Diyala. Although much of the fighting has been to the west, those provinces are increasingly violent and attacks there have crippled oil and commerce routes. The groups who’ve made contact have largely shunned attacks on Iraqi civilians, focusing instead on the U.S.-led coalition forces. Their offer coincides with Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki’s decision to reach out to the Sunni insurgency with a reconciliation plan that includes an amnesty for fighters. The Islamic Army in Iraq, Muhammad Army and the Mujahedeen Shura Council — the umbrella group that covers eight militant groups including al-Qaida in Iraq — were not party to any offers to the government. Naseer al-Ani, a Sunni Arab politician and official with the largest Sunni political group, the Iraqi Islamic Party, said that al-Maliki should encourage the process by guaranteeing security for those making the offer and not immediately reject their demands. “The government should prove its goodwill and not establish red lines,†al-Ani said. “If the initiative is implemented in a good way, 70 percent of the insurgent groups will respond positively.†Al-Maliki, in televised remarks Wednesday, did not issue an outright rejection of the timetable demand. But he said it was unrealistic, because he could not be certain when the Iraqi army and police would be strong enough to make a foreign presence unnecessary for Iraq’s security. No timetable, Washington insists In Washington, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said that President Bush’s “view has been and remains that a timetable is not something that is useful. It is a signal to the enemies that all you have to do is just wait and it’s yours. “The goal is not to trade something off for something else to make somebody happy, the goal is to succeed,†he said. Bush has said U.S. troops will remain in Iraq for years to guarantee the success of the new Iraqi government. However, American military officials have said substantial reductions of the current force of 127,000 U.S. troops could be made before the end of 2007. Eight of the 11 insurgent groups banded together to approach al-Maliki’s government under The 1920 Revolution Brigade, which has claimed credit for killing U.S. troops in the past. All 11, working through intermediaries, have issued identical demands, according to insurgent spokesmen and government officials. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the information and for fear of retribution. The total number of insurgents is not known, nor how many men belong to each group. But there are believed to be about two dozen insurgent organizations in Iraq, so the 11 contacting the government could represent a substantial part of the Sunni-led insurgency. Al-Maliki’s offer of amnesty for insurgents would not absolve those who have killed Iraqis or American coalition troops. But proving which individuals have carried out fatal attacks would, in many — if not most — cases, be a difficult task. The issue is extremely sensitive in the United States, which has lost more than 2,500 uniformed men and women in Iraq, many to the insurgents’ bombs and ambushes. Talks extend into Saudi Arabia Coinciding with al-Maliki’s attempts to bring Sunni Arabs to the bargaining table, U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad held talks Tuesday in Saudi Arabia with King Abdullah. The Saudis have influence with many Sunni insurgents in Iraq. Al-Maliki also set up an e-mail account to communicate with insurgents, flashing the address on the screen during a broadcast Sunday night. For al-Maliki, reaching out to the Sunnis risks heightening tensions in his ruling coalition of mostly Shiite Muslim political groups. Al-Maliki is said to be increasingly disenchanted with the close ties between the country’s most powerful Shiite organization and Iran, which is ruled by a Shiite theocracy. Abdul Aziz al-Hakim, leader of the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, a Shiite group with historic ties to the Iranians, favors close relations with Iran. Many of Iraq’s most powerful Shiite politicians and religious figures spent years in Iranian exile during Saddam Hussein’s regime. In addition to the withdrawal timetable, the Iraqi insurgents have demanded: An end to U.S. and Iraqi military operations against insurgent forces. Compensation for Iraqis killed by U.S. and government forces and reimbursement for property damage. An end to the ban on army officers from Saddam’s regime in the Iraqi military. An end to the government ban on former members of the Baath Party — which ruled the country under Saddam. The release of insurgent detainees. The 1920 Revolution Brigades, the umbrella for seven other groups, was established in the so-called Sunni Triangle north and west of Baghdad shortly after the 2003 U.S.-led invasion. Its name refers to Iraq’s historical fight against British colonialism. The group has claimed responsibility for attacking American troops, including the downing of two helicopters in 2004. “If they set a two-year timetable for the withdrawal we will stop all our operations immediately,†said the leader in a telephone interview with the AP. The man, who refused to give his name for security reasons, spoke from the telephone of one of the mediators. Others present made similar remarks. Besides the 1920 Revolution Brigades, the eight include Abtal al-Iraq (Heroes of Iraq), the 9th of April Group, al-Fateh Brigades, al-Mukhtar Brigades, Salahuddin Brigades, Mujahedeen Army and the Brigades of the General Command of the Armed Forces. The three other groups are small organizations that also mainly operate in areas north of Baghdad. © 2006 The Associated Press. Willing to negotiate with 'The Great Satan' ? Holy cow !!.
  15. Israel Cannot Rely On Europe's Jews

    I'm shaking in my Airwalks.
  16. Putin Puts The Word Out..."whack 'em !"

    Please ! I don't see MosNews as being a 'news powerhouse'. I don't think they even qualify as an 'international media resource', per IF rules. What has Fox published that was false ?
  17. Israel Cannot Rely On Europe's Jews

    Then don't talk to me in that manner.
  18. Israel Cannot Rely On Europe's Jews

    I'll be any type of a** I desire! Don't talk to me like that, junior. Letting that Mod. thing go to your head a little, aren't we ?
  19. Putin Puts The Word Out..."whack 'em !"

    If that's true, which I doubt, (I've seen where you get your 'info' from, Z) he can think what he likes. He's no friend of the U.S., anyway. But I don't think the U.S. will mind much if the Reds go in quietly and make a few 'mu...' Whoops ! Almost. Makes a few of 'them guys' disappear. The 'head sawing thing' would be a real 'curve ball', though' wouldn't it ?
  20. Insurgents Showing Sense ?

    It is only a contraction for mujihadeen (sp). Like Yanks for Yankees. That's all. But if you're gonna wig-out, I'll stop using it. How about I use 'mindless killers of thier own people' instead ? Nah, too long. I'll get back to you on my new name for them guys. Wait, that's it ! 'Them Guys'. Nice.
  21. Israel Cannot Rely On Europe's Jews

    Is there a source for this 'information' ? We're pretty fast and loose with this rule, aren't we ?
  22. Question To Those Who Oppose "islamic Fundamentals"

    Didn't the U.S survive the Arab oil embargo on the '70s ? Sure we did. I just started driving in '79 and I lived to tell about it. Do you know why that didn't work ? Because almost all of the countries that sell oil ONLY sell oil. They have nothing else to offer the world. And they do it for the money. They can't eat oil. Let me ask you a good one. What would those guys do if and when the U.S. fully develops hydrogen power or ethanol, as Brazil is, and we don't need that much oil anymore ? Or as is inevitable, thier stuff dries up ? Then all they have is sand. They are a 'one trick pony.'
  23. G.i.s Found Mutilated

    Defeating and occupying Iraq, a country of 25 million TWICE in a little over ten years with a loss of less than 3000 troops doesn't sound like defeat to me. You sound like Krushev when he said the U.S.S.R would 'bury the U.S'. Last I checked, the U.S.S.R. is the one 'sleeping with the fishes', so put your shoe back on. The U.S. is STILL the greatest country ever, and the millions of people dying to get to 'the land of opportunity' is a solid testament to that. You are right and 13 million illegal aliens are wrong ? I don't think so, junior. The DOW is up 217 points and my 401k is kicking butt. Empire over ? Nyet. And Bill O'Rielly would b*tch-slap you in a New York minute. The party's just beginning and I'm leading the conga line !! SALUTE'
  24. Question To Those Who Oppose "islamic Fundamentals"

    Back to name-calling, huh ? O.K. Here we go. Yes, Iraq was under sanction. But there was a lot of oil sales on the black market through Jordan and Syria. N.K. is p*ss poor. If it weren't for the West feeding it, there would be famine. And still, most food gets siphoned off for the Army. Their largest source of income is the sale of missles and counterfeitting U.S. currency. Hardly a 'cash-cow.' No, you don't remember correctly. I don't recall ANYONE saying Iraq could 'devastate the U.K and U.S. in 45 minutes. The whole statement is silly. I don't know what you are talking about when you say 'N.K. provoked the U.S. within like 5 minutes'. Missles are flying everywhere ? A bit melodramatic, aren't we ? Where are these missles coming from and who are they flying at ?
  25. New Taliban Dude

    In the Footsteps of Zarqawi The Taliban's bloodthirsty top commander in southern Afghanistan scares almost everyone—even his allies and underlings. A profile in brutality. Afghanistan: New Face Of Evil By Ron Moreau and Sami Yousafzai Newsweek July 3-10, 2006 issue - If you hoped his June 7 death might be the end of the line for Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi, you really don't want to see the newest recruitment videos for the Taliban. Although they never mention the Jordanian-born terrorist by name, the echoes of his Internet videos—and his sheer viciousness—are unmistakable and chilling. The star is Mullah Dadullah Akhund, a one-legged guerrilla commander in southern Afghanistan who now seems bent on matching or exceeding Zarqawi's ugly reputation. In one scene, the black-turbaned Taliban commander, posing for the camera in a southern Afghan moonscape, blasts away at an unseen target with a heavy machine gun. Another sequence has him doling out his blessings to a succession of young men being sent to carry out suicide bombings in Afghan cities and near military bases. The most revolting footage shows a gang of Dadullah's thugs slitting the throats, one by one, of six Afghans they accuse of spying for the Americans. As each head is severed, it is grabbed and placed facing the camera, atop the torso of the victim's sprawled corpse. This year's armed push by the Taliban has been the biggest and bloodiest since they lost Kabul in 2001, and Dadullah is believed to be spearheading it. The surge of suicide bombings, school burnings and guerrilla ambushes has killed more than 100 Afghan civilians and at least 40 Coalition soldiers, including 24 U.S. troops. For the first time in memory, Taliban guerrillas under Dadullah have succeeded in capturing government installations in the remote south, if only for brief periods. (Some of those raids are documented in the new recruitment videos, obtained by NEWSWEEK from an Afghan involved in making copies for distribution.) Villagers say that ever-increasing numbers of Taliban fighters are roaming the countryside, entering villages at night—sometimes even in broad daylight—and warning the inhabitants not to cooperate with the Americans or their allies, on pain of death. Dadullah's own men don't want to risk his anger. Mullah Ghul Agha, who identifies himself as Dadullah's third in command, spoke to NEWSWEEK recently in an apple orchard on a small farm in Helmand province's Barakzai district. He says his boss's disposition swings abruptly from cheerfulness to rage: "For two hours he can be in a good humor, then suddenly he changes into a dark mood that can last for hours," Agha says. No one dares to cross or contradict Dadullah. "He would kill anyone for not obeying orders," says Agha. "I certainly would not want to face Dadullah on the battlefield." Dadullah built a reputation for cruelty as a Taliban field commander in the 1990s. He lost his leg to a land mine in 1995, the year before the Taliban took Kabul, but he returned from the hospital in Karachi with a prosthetic limb and meaner than ever, fighting his way to become one of the Taliban's three deputy defense ministers. His name became so identified with atrocities that Taliban radio would report he was engaged in battles even when he was not, as a ploy to unnerve opposing forces He specialized in brutal assignments. One, in 1998, was to pacify the ethnic minority Hazaras, a Shiite group in Bamian province. Dadullah's tactics were so ruthless—he massacred hundreds of Hazara civilians—that Taliban leader Mullah Mohammed Omar relieved him of his command. Even so, a year later Dadullah was back in the field, leading a major drive against the U.S.-backed Northern Alliance in far-north Kunduz province and reportedly slaughtering Tajik and Uzbek noncombatants by the hundreds. Savagery failed him during the U.S. invasion in late 2001. Agha and other Taliban sources say he abandoned his troops, paid $150,000 to a Northern Alliance commander for safe passage and escaped to Pakistan, where he and other Taliban survivors slowly rebuilt their forces. By 2003, when he was named to Mullah Omar's 10-man advisory council, he was leading frequent guerrilla raids across the border into Afghanistan. That's about when the beheadings and suicide bombings began, Afghans say. This year Dadullah returned to Afghanistan to stay. He operates mostly in Helmand province, Agha says, but he never spends the whole night in one place, fearing U.S. airstrikes. (This is especially true since May, when the Coalition launched Operation Mountain Thrust to retake southern Afghanistan.) His two wives and three children remain in Pakistan, in the strongly pro-Taliban city of Quetta, according to Agha. Dadullah claims to have roughly 12,000 fighters on the ground, although U.S. commanders say he has roughly half that number at most. He recently told an interviewer from Al-Jazeera television that he has 200 suicide bombers awaiting his orders. In one of the propaganda videos, Dadullah signs a slip of paper and hands it to a fresh-faced young man sitting on the floor beside him. The video identifies the youngster as "suicide bomber 116." Like all of Mullah Omar's top commanders, Dadullah has complete operational freedom. The Taliban leader likes to send only morale-building messages, not orders. That means Dadullah can choose the kind of battles he loves—big, aggressive operations. Such tactics can be costly. Agha describes how Dadullah recently administered a tongue-lashing to a subordinate in Kandahar province for being too cautious. "Why aren't you fighting?" Dadullah shouted into his satellite phone. "Are you not a Muslim?" The lieutenant hastily summoned his fighters to the village of Tolokar. Their unusual movements gave them away, and a U.S. airstrike blasted the guerrillas before they could go into action. Approximately 70 Taliban died, together with 35 civilians. U.S. commanders downplay the importance of individual enemy leaders. They say the way to win the war is to focus on the big picture, not on personalities. "Our objective is to separate the enemy from the people and to establish an enduring security presence," says Brig. Gen. Anthony Tata, deputy commander of the U.S. Army's 10th Mountain Division. "I don't see Dadullah as a big deal," he adds. "Our view is he's another Taliban who has a dark vision for the future of Afghanistan. He's basically a coward influencing younger Taliban to burn schools and kill civilians." Like Zarqawi, Dadullah has developed a personal passion for killing—but his young recruits seem only too happy to help him. Their country's fratricidal war started before many of them were born. Sooner or later, Dadullah may just push his luck too far on the battlefield. But even then, someone, somewhere, will almost surely pick up his mantle. © 2006 Newsweek, Inc. There has got to be a Predator drone out there with this creeps name on it.
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