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  1. Sadaam/al Qaida/taliban Connection

    Documents Support Saddam-Taliban Connection Friday, June 16, 2006 By Ray Robison Prologue: Did Saddam Hussein's inner circle and the Taliban rulers in Afghanistan actively court each other in hopes of forging an anti-American alliance in the region? Ray Robison, a former member of the CIA-directed Iraq Survey Group (ISG), examined efforts by Saddam Hussein to build and hide weapons of mass destruction, and supervised a group of linguists to analyze, archive and exploit documents and materials of Saddam's regime. Click here for more on Ray Robison and the Saddam Dossier In this second of a three-part examination of a newly-released document captured in Iraq, Robison offers further evidence that in 1999 the Taliban welcomed "Islamic relations with Iraq" to mediate among the Taliban, the Northern Alliance and Russia, and that the Taliban reciprocated with an invitation to Iraqi officials to visit Afghanistan. The document appears to be a notebook kept by an Iraqi Intelligence Service (IIS) agent, and apparently captured in 2003. The translation is provided by Robison's associate, known here as “Sammi.†The notebook deals extensively with the meetings between a prominent Taliban supporter and former Saddam regime officials. It is highly probable that the man in this meeting is Fazlur Rahman, a Pakistani cleric described in an article from the BBC Profile: Maulana Fazlur Rahman as “A pro-Taliban cleric in Pakistan... one of the two main contenders for the post of the country's prime minister.†The BBC also said “Maulana Fazlur Rahman… is known for his close ties to Afghanistan's ousted Taliban regime.†Part One of the Saddam Dossier appeared to chronicle Rahman's meeting with Taha Yassin Ramadan, the then-vice president of Iraq and Saddam's chief enforcer. Part Two describes a meeting with an unidentified Iraqi official referred to as “M.O.M.,†who possibly is Tahir Jalil Habbush al Tikriti, the director of the IIS. This translation refers to the previous meeting of Maulana Fazlur Rahman and Ramadan. It also mentions a future meeting between the Maulana and Saddam Hussein. A second document captured in Afghanistan seems to confirm that a relationship existed between Saddam and the Maulana. The document is posted under the identifying Harmony number AFGP-2002-601693 at the West Point Terrorism Center. Part One's translation from this notebook indicated that the Taliban under the leadership of Mullah Omar was seeking Iraq's support in mediating with Russia and the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan. This translation reveals that the Saddam regime had expectations of assistance from the Taliban, and that the two agreed to a secret intelligence relationship. The Iraqi official tells the Maulana that they want the Taliban to support Iraq against U.S. actions. They also discuss their common enemy: the United States. Also mentioned in the notebook is Fazlur Rahman Khalil, a Pakistani Taliban leader and Al Qaeda associate, who does not appear to be present at this meeting. The notebook mentions Rahman Khalil on page 72, at the bottom of a list of Islamic clerics coming to Iraq: “Very important: Fazlur Rahman Khalil: Leader of the Ansar Movement. Does not have a position inside Pakistan but inside Afghanistan and Kashmir.†Khalil was a co-signatory of the infamous Usama bin Laden 1998 fatwa against the U.S. Sammi adds notes for clarity in parenthesis. ▪ Translator’s notes: The notebook is 76 pages. The notebook belongs to someone called Khaled Abd El Majid, and covers events taking place in 1999. ▪ The second meeting occurs on Nov. 28, 1999. This is the translation of the second meeting. Translation: Translation for ISGP-2003-0001412 follows (PDF): Meeting of Mr. M.O.M. with Sheikh Maulana Fazlur Rahman on Sunday, 11/28, 7:45 PM Words of welcoming. Probably M.O.M.: We are aiming to arrange a meeting between you and Mr. President Leader (translator’s note: this is how Iraqi officials refer to Saddam). But in the beginning we were instructed that Mr. Vice-President will meet you. I personally met Hekmatyar (translator’s note: an Afghani warlord fighting the Taliban) and he asked us to interfere for the possibility of closer relations with the Taliban. And he sent us emissaries concerning this issue. Fazlur Rahman: I am the one who started with this issue, the relation between Taliban and Iraq, and it is our idea. The brothers in Afghanistan are facing the pressure of America, and are struggling against America and aim to have some connections between Afghanistan and Iraq, and it is a good start to establish the relations with Iraq and Libya and our association has taken this responsibility upon her. I already met with Mr. the Vice-President and the previous head of the directorate, may God rest his soul (translator’s note: apparently the head of the directorate passed away) and both proposed that Hekmatyar and the Taliban should get to an agreement. I spoke with the Taliban about this issue and they started meeting with delegations from the Islamic Party, and I met Mullah Omar and his reply was positive. As a party, our stand is that there should be an agreement between the Taliban and the rest of the opposition, Shah Ahmad Massoud and Rabbani. And Mullah Omar said that we are looking towards this and that (not clear) and (not clear) and Ahmad Al Kilani and Jalal Al Din Hakkani do not oppose us. Therefore, Hekmatyar is on the positive way but we are in a war situation and that needs a lot of trust, and there are hurdles to this because he fought us and killed us and he has problems with the opposition in the North and with us. After repeated contacts we will reach an agreement, but in the form of steps. Concerning the relations with Iraq, he said that they are our brothers and Muslims and are facing pressures from America, like us and like Sudan and Libya. And he (Mullah Omar) desires to get closer relations with Iraq and that Iraq may help us in reducing our problems. Now we are facing America and Russia. He requested the possibility of Iraq intervening to build a friendship with Russia since Russia is no more the number one enemy. And we request Iraq’s help from a brotherly point of view. They are ready for this matter and they prefer that the relation between Iraq and Taliban be an independent relation from Hekmatyar’s relation with the Taliban. We want practical steps concerning this issue and especially the relationship with the Taliban and (not clear, but could be Iraq). An Iraqi, most probably M.O.M.: I want to discuss three points. The first is the relation with Taliban. It should be understood that this issue is completely independent from the mediation requested by Hekmatyar to get to an agreement with the Taliban. Developing the relation with Taliban is essential and this development requires meetings to create a common ground of understanding. We already believe that there are no points of disagreement between us and the Taliban because we are both in one trench facing the world’s oppression. But the details of the relation and its management are linked to the facts of the international situation. I find that by simply meeting with you (Fazlur Rahman) is a step forward in the relation with Taliban because we know well how much they trust you and what you represent for them. And when you relay our point of view for them they will understand it. For the future we think that we will arrange relations between us, as an intelligence service, and them in a secret way to establish the strong base of this relation. In the meeting (translator’s note: future meeting) and after reviewing the Taliban’s point of view, we would discuss the possibility of us making an effort to stabilize the situation between Taliban and Russia. We could discuss the subject through the intelligence channel. We look forward to security and stability in Afghanistan, the control of the Taliban and the construction of a political system according to the political and ideological choices of the Taliban. We look forward to assure the Russians that Afghanistan does not constitute a threat to Russia. Afghanistan is a country that wants to live in independence and by dialogue it is possible to reach common grounds to finally get to the result hoped for. The second point is the subject of the agreement between Hekmatyar and the Taliban. We proposed it for a single reason related to our psychological stand concerning Taliban. We hope that they will win and control. We felt that Hekmatyar hopes that Taliban will control the situation and his intentions are true. Because when he sees the different political and military parties in Afghanistan he knows that the best choice is Taliban. (translator’s note: the Iraqi continues to expand his view on how all parties should come together through trust and negotiations.) The third point which is important for us is outside Afghanistan. It is the spiritual relation which ties us with the Association of Islamic Scholars and we know your role in supporting the Iraqi cause and the effect you have on the Pakistani street. In the coming two weeks we are going to a confrontation with America because the U.S. has put all its weight in the Security Council to publish the Dutch-British resolution. We refuse this resolution and view it as a life-long embargo. We look to our Muslim brothers in particular to support us and especially our brothers in the Association of Islamic Scholars to organize protests in Pakistan against the resolution when it is made official. We ask our Muslim brothers in Pakistan to do this effort. We are trying and we have contacts with Muslims all over Asia and especially in Pakistan, Indonesia, Malaysia, Bangladesh and India. We hope that during the two coming weeks you will ask our friends in those associations to demonstrate. Fazlur Rahman: Concerning the relations between the Taliban and Iraq I was informed that they are going to start those relations in a secret manner and they are waiting for the answer and I will inform them that you will answer them through the embassy (translator’s note: could be through the Iraqi embassy of Kabul, if they had one, or Islamabad in Pakistan). Concerning the agreement with Hekmatyar, we are going to proceed with this issue. Concerning the third point, the Association of Islamic Scholars has a popular voice in Pakistan and we will always side with Iraq and we hope that the new government will have a positive stand with Iraq. Last July we received information that America wants to attack Afghanistan because of Usama bin Laden so we did a (not clear) and agreed to contact the Taliban to be sure and they said it was true. We received information about CIA and U.S. commandos reaching the Pakistan-Afghanistan border and they started dropping bombs on Afghanistan and they used the Pakistani airfields to bomb important positions in Kandahar. We as a Muslim people do not accept the American presence on our soil. A representative from the U.S. embassy came and told me, “You said that America was your enemy, how can you say that we are your enemy and the enemy of Islam?†So I told them that you took Russia’s role in bombing Afghanistan and you are bombing Muslims. Then they said that they wanted Usama so I told them that Usama is in Sudan and that he was in Afghanistan during the rule of Rabbani and I added that they do not have a treaty to hand over criminals, as they pretend, with Afghanistan. End Translation Analysis: Note the Iraqi official says, “We hope that they will win and control,†referring to the Taliban. According to this notebook, Iraq has clearly thrown its support to the Taliban, the epicenter of Islamic Jihad. This is a clear indication that Saddam had no problem working with Jihadists outside of Iraq. According to the notebook, the Iraqi official also tells the Maulana: “The third point which is important for us is outside Afghanistan. It is the spiritual relation which ties us with the Association of Islamic Scholars and we know your role in supporting the Iraqi cause and the effect you have on the Pakistani street.†This statement may indicate that a previous relationship was in place before this meeting between the Saddam Regime and the Maulana. This excerpt from the notebook indicates that both the Taliban and Saddam Regime agreed to a secret relationship involving intelligence services. We do not know the scope or extent of that operational relationship, but this notebook and other documents give us further clues. It might well be noted that if Saddam Hussein was merely looking for an Islamic voice to take up his cause, there are plenty of Arab and Muslim organizations that do not depend on violence and terrorism directed at the United States. This point is illustrated in the BBC article Anger and Dismay in South Asia: "Saddam Hussein is a hero of Muslims," a protester cried at a rally in the northwestern city of Peshawar, AFP reports."We want the government to give us permission to go to Iraq to fight against the U.S. forces," another protester told hundreds of supporters.Supporters of the Islamic Jamaat-i-Islami party assembled in the eastern city of Lahore, chanting "Bush is a dog," and "Save Iraqi children," AFP reports."America has signed its own death warrant," Islamist leader Maulana Fazlur Rehman said. Since the Iraqi official in this meeting is not named, we can not be certain with whom the Maulana is meeting. But there are clues. First, it is clear Rahman has high level access and would most likely be meeting with a senior member of the government, a department head. This official talks about an intelligence based relationship indicating this might be the chief of the IIS, the former Iraq Intelligence Service. The Maulana says, “I already met with Mr. the Vice President and the previous head of the directorate, may God rest his soulâ€. This may indicate he is speaking to the current head of the directorate. An excerpt from the website Global Security provides insight: One killing believed to be politically motivated included that of Intelligence Chief Rafa Daham Mujawwal Al-Tikriti, Saddam Hussein's second cousin and the former Iraqi ambassador to Turkey. Rafa died Oct. 11, 1999, three days after he was removed from his post. Government explanations for his death included both that he had died in a car crash and that he had suffered a heart attack So it seems possible the IIS Chief died just prior to this meeting and the Maulana is meeting with the new IIS chief. The new IIS chief would have been Tahir Jalil Habbush al Tikriti, who according to the Multi-National Forces' Iraq Web site as of January, 2006 is still listed as “at large.†Of course, if he has not been captured, it is reasonable to assume he has not been interrogated. Tahir Jalil Habbush al Tikriti came to public attention in December, 2003 when the Telegraph UK reported Terrorist Behind September 11th Strike was Trained by Saddam. Details of Atta's visit to the Iraqi capital in the summer of 2001, just weeks before he launched the most devastating terrorist attack in U.S. history, are contained in a top secret memo written to Saddam Hussein, the then Iraqi president, by Tahir Jalil Habbush al-Tikriti, the former head of the Iraqi Intelligence Service. The handwritten memo, a copy of which has been obtained exclusively by the Telegraph, is dated July 1, 2001 and provides a short resume of a three-day "work programme" Atta had undertaken at Abu Nidal's base in Baghdad. In the memo, Habbush reports that Atta "displayed extraordinary effort" and demonstrated his ability to lead the team that would be "responsible for attacking the targets that we have agreed to destroy". Atta, of course, led the 9/11 attacks. It is interesting to note in this new context of an intelligence based relationship between the Taliban and Saddam regime, orchestrated by Pakistani contacts, specifically Maulana Rahman, that the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks was Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, a Pakistani passport holder arrested in Pakistan in 2003. It also is worth noting that Mustapha Ahmed al-Hawsawi, who officials say sent cash to lead 9/11 hijacker Mohammed Atta, also was arrested in Pakistan with Khalid. Both of these men were arrested in the home of a member of Pakistan's largest religious political party, Jamaat Islami, of which Maulana Fazlur Rahman is a leader. A further translation from this notebook indicates that in another meeting, again believed to be with the Maulana, joint military training between the Taliban and the Iraqi military is proposed. Due to the information provided in this notebook, we see a possible secret, intelligence based, operational relationship between the Taliban and the Saddam regime via Maulana Fazlur Rahman. We can discern that the Maulana most likely is meeting with Habbush al Tikriti, implicated in documents published by the Telegraph newspaper in reference to the training of Atta in Iraq. We also have an annotation that indicates Pakistani Fazlur Rahman Khalil, a known bin Laden associate, Al Qaeda terrorist and a 1998 fatwa co-signatory, also was traveling to Iraq in 1999. A further translation from this notebook indicates that in another meeting, again with the Maulana, the Taliban proposes joint military training with the Iraqi military. The author welcomes your comment on the translation and analysis of this document. You can contact Ray Robison by emailing him at: saddamdossier[at]gmail. FOXNEWS WOW !
  2. New Taliban Dude

    Check this guy out. He's a real piece of work.
  3. Hamas seems to think so. One israeli soldier is worth about 400 Palestinian prisoners. That's about how many prisoners Hamas wants released in return for the soldier.
  4. Sadaam/al Qaida/taliban Connection

    foxnews/story/0,2933,200908,00.html Sadaam was busy, so he couldn't log-on to tell you himself that all this is true.
  5. Iran's Supreme Leader Rejects Talks With U.S. Over Nuclear Program Tuesday, June 27, 2006 TEHRAN, Iran — Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei dismissed the possibility of nuclear talks with the United States Tuesday saying nothing would be gained from them, state television reported. "Negotiations with the United States would have no benefit for us, and we do not need them," the television quoted Khamenei as telling Senegalese President Abdoulaye Wade. The U.S. has said it would only take part with European nations in negotiations with Iran over their nuclear nuclear program if Tehran accepted an incentives package offered earlier this month. CountryWatch: Iran The Washington move was seen as a major concession as the U.S. lists Iran as a sponsor of international terrorism and there have been no diplomatic relations between the two countries since 1979, when militants stormed the U.S. Embassy in Tehran and took Americans hostage for 444 days. The package of incentives seeks to persuade Iran to place a long-term moratorium on the enrichment of uranium, a process that can produce fuel for nuclear generators or the material for nuclear warheads. Iran has long refused to backdown on its enrichment program, saying it has a right to the peaceful exploitation of nuclear energy. "We do not negotiate with anybody on achieving and exploiting nuclear technology," the TV quoted Khamenei as saying. "But if they recognize our nuclear rights, we are ready to negotiate about controls, supervisions and international guarantees." Khamenei, who has final say on all state matters, said that the West would misuse such a negotiating process to put pressure on the country. The Associated Press contributed to this report. 'Supreme Leader' ? Is that funny, or what ??
  6. Hamas / Fatah Recognise Israel

    Hamas, Fatah in Agreement to Recognize israel Tuesday, June 27, 2006 GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip — After weeks of negotiations, the rival Hamas and Fatah groups on Tuesday reached agreement on a plan that implicitly recognizes israel, a top Palestinian official said. "We have an agreement over the document," Ibrahim Abu Najah said. Salah Zeidan, another negotiator, said a formal signing ceremony would come soon. "All political groups are prepared for a mutual cease-fire with israel," he added. President Mahmoud Abbas of Fatah has been trying to coax Hamas into backing the document, which was written by senior Palestinian prisoners held by israel. Abbas has promoted the plan as a way to reopen peace talks with israel and end economic sanctions that have crippled the Hamas-led Palestinian government. CountryWatch: israel However, a crisis over the abduction of an israeli soldier and opposition by the militant group Islamic Jihad overshadowed the deal. "In today's meeting, we announced we reject some of the articles of this document and we have reservations about other articles," said Khaled al-Batch, spokesman for Islamic Jihad, which has carried out numerous attacks against israel. The plan calls for a Palestinian state alongside israel, in effect recognizing israel. It also calls on militants to limit attacks to areas captured by israel in the 1967 Mideast War and calls for formation of a coalition Palestinian government. Hamas and Fatah have been locked in a bloody power struggle since Hamas won legislative elections in January. Hamas controls the parliament and Cabinet. Abbas, a political moderate, was elected separately last year. israel has said the document is an internal Palestinian matter, but said it falls short of international demands that Hamas renounce violence and formally recognize the Jewish state. With Hamas-linked militants holding a captured israeli soldier, the Palestinian agreement is even less likely to reduce tensions. israel has massed troops along its border with Gaza, promising a broad offensive into the area. The Associated Press contributed to this report. Wow !! A step in the right direction.
  7. Iraqi Wmd's Found

    Dude, we sold the Iraqis a lot of stuff, but 'chems'weren't one of them. We sell a lot of countries stuff. Just like every other weapons producing nation does. They whipped up the gas on thier own. So now you are admitting that maybe Iraq did have W.M.D.s ?
  8. Pro Palestine Demo In London.

    Please don't get out there chanting " Death To America ", or any other "Death to's... " And don't work yourselves into a tizzy. It all looks so foolish on T.V. And does it really do any good ? No. Go to work or school instead. Do something useful.
  9. Israel Won't Negotiate / Hamas In Deep ....

    Maybe. But Hamas is still going to get an a** kicking.
  10. Iraqi Wmd's Found

    Yeah, the 'female' thing was a mistake. I didn't realize that was up there until it was too late. Bdcent was given to me by a Mod. I suppose he didn't like my original screen name. Why, I don't know.
  11. Hamas / Fatah Cat Fight ?

    Kidnapping of israeli Soldier May Indicate Major Rift Inside Hamas Monday, June 26, 2006 GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip — The abduction of an israeli soldier has laid bare deep rifts inside Hamas, with militants from the group claiming responsibility and Palestinian government officials insisting they knew nothing of the operation. Hamas leaders hotly denied a split. But the working assumption of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas is that Hamas' exiled leader gave the green light for the raid without consulting the Hamas-led government, two senior Abbas aides told The Associated Press. In the power struggle between followers of the exiled Khaled Mashaal and more moderate leaders in Gaza, Mashaal's forces have the upper hand because they control the purse strings that keep Hamas afloat, said the aides. They spoke on condition of anonymity because their observations were not official policy. Hamas' military wind, known as the Izzedine al-Qassam Brigades, and two other groups tied to Hamas — the Popular Resistance Committees and the Army of Islam — claimed responsibility for kidnapping Cpl. Gilad Shalit. Shalit, 19, the first israeli soldier captured by Palestinian militants in 12 years, was seized in israel early Sunday in a raid that killed two other soldiers and three militants. The abduction raised the specter of an overwhelming israeli assault on Gaza, and set off a frenzied diplomatic push to win Shalit's freedom. Abbas, a moderate who was elected separately from Hamas, spoke with 19 foreign leaders to enlist their help. Most significant, according to the Abbas aides, was his call to President Bashar Assad of Syria, whose country shelters Mashaal and who is believed to have influence over the Hamas leader. Osama Hamdan, a Hamas official in Beirut who is close to Mashaal, insisted Mashaal had nothing to do with the actions of Hamas' military wing. Hamdan accused Abbas' Fatah Party of trying "to implicate him (Mashaal) in this to provide a pretext for the israelis to hit him." "Indeed, we have received threats to liquidate brother Khaled and we take that very seriously," he said. A Fatah official, speaking on condition anonymity because he said he does not want to exacerbate tensions with Hamas, said israel does not need a pretext to attack Mashaal, and has already made it clear that all Hamas leaders could be targeted. Ghazi Hamad, a spokesman for the Hamas-led government in Gaza, denied reports of a split inside Hamas, calling them a "big lie." But he said the government had no prior knowledge of Sunday's raid, and struggled to explain how that could happen in the absence of a rift. Gaza's desperation, worsened by an international boycott of the Hamas government, has complicated the relationship among Palestinian factions, "so you'll find some contradictions," Hamad said. Abbas' aides said they were suspicious of the timing of Sunday's attack, coming on the day Fatah and Hamas were set to announce agreement on a document implicitly recognizing israel's right to exist, possibly paving the way for an easing of israeli and Western sanctions. The aides said they believed hard-line elements in Hamas wanted to torpedo the agreement. Tense relations between Abbas and Mashaal took a turn for the worse in April after Mashaal publicly accused Abbas of being a traitor. Since then, Abbas has shunned all contact with the Hamas leader, refusing to take his phone calls. Abbas' aides said Sunday's assault may have been a show of force by Mashaal to illustrate the dangers of sidelining him. Fatah officials said Ahmad Jaabari, leader of the Izzedine al-Qassam Brigade, is in close contact with Mashaal. Of the Hamas officials in Gaza and the West Bank, Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh and Deputy Prime Minister Nasser al-Shaer are considered the most moderate. Al-Shaer has called for Shalit's release. Foreign Minister Mahmoud Zahar is considered to be close to Mashaal. At a meeting in Gaza meant to ease tensions between Fatah and Hamas on Saturday, Zahar reportedly chided Fatah politicians for trying to undermine his authority. FOXNEWS
  12. Sue The Terrorists

    Sue the terrorists US-based attorneys represent israeli victims in US courts. terror-lawsuit I found THIS ad on THIS site. Is that funny, or what ? The irony !
  13. Sadaam/al Qaida/taliban Connection

    You had to be the feature speaker at the 'Conspiracy convention ' this weekend in L.A. !!
  14. Taliban Tape / Karzai Rips Taliban

    FOXNEWS HOME > WORLD > ASIA Purported Taliban Tape Blasts Afghanistan, U.S. Sunday, June 25, 2006 KABUL, Afghanistan — Fugitive Taliban leader Mullah Omar purportedly said in an audiotape aired Sunday that Afghanistan's government and the U.S.-led coalition supporting it do not have the wisdom to solve the nation's crisis. The U.S. military said two coalition soldiers had been killed in combat that also left about 45 militants dead. Also, President Hamid Karzai called for more coordination between coalition and tribal leaders in counterterrorism operations. U.S.-led forces are waging their largest anti-Taliban offensive to date across southern Afghanistan to quash the deadliest campaign of militant violence since the Islamists' ouster in 2001. The recording aired by independent Pakistan station Geo TV was apparently made during a recent meeting of Taliban leaders in Helmand province, the network said. Its authenticity could not immediately be confirmed. "They cannot solve the issue of Afghanistan based on their wisdom and thinking," the speaker said. The station's reporter said the recording also included Omar's claim that the Taliban control large areas of the country. Geo said the tape came in an e-mail from purported Taliban figures in the capital, Kabul. The audio recording, if confirmed as Omar's, would be his first since July 2005, when he vowed that the Taliban would continue to fight coalition forces. Karzai did not comment on the tape's authenticity during an interview with a cable news network. But he said that if Omar is "really in charge," he should emerge from hiding and "face the danger that he is causing to hundreds of young people in Afghanistan and Pakistan." "It needs guts to do what he's talking about, and he doesn't have it," Karzai told CNN's "Late Edition." Omar led the Taliban in the capture of Kabul in 1996. Following the Sept. 11 attacks in the United States, an American-led military campaign invaded Afghanistan and toppled the Taliban for harboring al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden and his group. Karzai said Omar and the Taliban do not represent a threat to Afghanistan's government. "They exist in the form of attacking schools, attacking children, killing innocent people," he said. "They are no match for our power." The two coalition soldiers died at a hospital after they were wounded during a four-hour gunbattle Saturday, the U.S.-led coalition said in a statement. Another coalition soldier also was wounded. The identities of the slain soldiers were not released. The coalition estimates about 250 insurgents have been killed since Operation Mountain Thrust got under way earlier this month to stop a wave of suicide attacks and ambushes. At a meeting in Kabul, Karzai emphasized to key Western officials the need for international troops to work more closely with tribal leaders and community elders during military operations, his office said. The president told Western diplomats and the heads of NATO and U.S. forces in Afghanistan that the international community should examine the root causes of terrorist activities. He again warned that maximum caution was needed to avoid civilian casualties during military operations. The meeting followed strong statements from Karzai last week that the current approach of hunting down Taliban militants has failed to address the funding, training and recruitment that fuel terrorism. CountryWatch: Afghanistan In eastern Afghanistan, a police official said five Afghan aid workers, including two doctors and an employee of a Swedish aid organization, had been kidnapped. Two doctors, an employee of the aid agency Swedish Committee for Afghanistan and two local government workers were kidnapped Thursday while driving in Nuristan province, said Ghalamullah Nuristani, the provincial deputy police chief. Abdallah Fahim, spokesman for the Public Health Ministry in Kabul, said the five hostages were still alive and that police and Afghan troops were looking for them. FOXNEWS HOME > WORLD > ASIA "They exist in the form of attacking schools, attacking children, killing innocent people," he said. "They are no match for our power." You go, Hamid !! Tell them losers where it's at !!!
  15. Conspiracy Theorists Meet Over 9/11

    All the conspiracy drones should bang thier heads together real hard. Then they could make the worlds largest fruit salad.
  16. Taliban Tape / Karzai Rips Taliban

    You are correct, Mahmood. The Taliban ARE 'world class baby killers.' A very astute observation. Have you ever thought of a career in rocket science or brain surgery ?
  17. Iraqi Wmd's Found

    And please stay on-topic.
  18. Iraqi Wmd's Found

    I didn't think the suspension was fair. Just like the removal of my post about the Muslim dating service ads on this site wasn't fair. Also, I didn't like the screen name' bdcent'. I like 'diverdown' much more.
  19. Internet Video Shows Execution of Russian Hostages by Terror Group Sunday, June 25, 2006 CAIRO, Egypt — A video posted on the Internet shows the graphic killings of three Russian diplomats kidnapped in Iraq, and says an Al Qaeda umbrella group has killed all four hostages. The video, posted on an Islamic Web site the frequently airs militant messages, showed the beheading of one blindfolded man, the headless body of another in a pool of blood and the shooting of a third man. The Mujahedeen Shura Council, an umbrella organization linking seven insurgent groups including Al Qaeda in Iraq, claimed responsibility for the executions in an accompanying statement. CountryWatch: Iraq "God's verdict has been carried out on the Russian diplomats ... in revenge for the torture, killing and expulsion of our brothers and sisters by the infidel Russian government," the statement said. The video began with a verse from the Quran appearing in white letters on a black screen, and a voice reading "Those who aggress on you, you aggress on them." One at a time, the four men appear on camera, staring ahead and speaking in Russian. Then the camera cuts to the killings. The footage was stamped with the logo of Al Qaeda. Four Russian embassy workers were abducted on June 3 after an attack on their car in Baghdad's Mansour neighborhood. A fifth Russian was killed in the incident. The captives include the embassy's third secretary, Fyodor Zaitsev, and three other staffers, Rinat Agliulin, Anatoly Smirnov and Oleg Fedoseyev. FOXNEWS HOME > WORLD > IRAQ More be-headings !!! Al qaida are PIG FACED LOSERS !!
  20. G.i.s Found Mutilated

    Who the hell is Thomas Chittum ?
  21. Iraqi Wmd's Found

    Yes !! 18 year old W.M.D.'s are STILL W.M.D.'s !!! When aksed if he had any, Sadaam said 'No.' He lied. Period.
  22. Iraqi Wmd's Found

    Yeah, they found 'pesticides'. Ammo bunkers full of 'pesticides'.
  23. Filth Of Us Army

    Who did the FIRST Trade Center bombing ? Same people as 9/11. Al Qaida. Bin Laden.
  24. Iraqi Wmd's Found

    But another reason for the media silence may stem from the seemingly undramatic nature of the "finds" Hanson and others have described. The materials that constitute Saddam's chemical-weapons "stockpiles" look an awful lot like pesticides, which they indeed resemble. "Pesticides are the key elements in the chemical-agent arena," Hanson says. "In fact, the general pesticide chemical formula (organophosphate) is the 'grandfather' of modern-day nerve agents." Caches of "commercial and agricultural" chemicals don't match the expectation of "stockpiles" of chemical weapons. But, in fact, that is precisely what they are. "At a very minimum," Hanson tells Insight, "they were storing the precursors to restart a chemical-warfare program very quickly." Near the northern Iraqi town of Bai'ji, where Saddam had built a chemical-weapons plant known to the United States from nearly 12 years of inspections, elements of the 4th Infantry Division found 55-gallon drums containing a substance identified through mass spectrometry analysis as cyclosarin -- a nerve agent "Gee, you sure have got a lot of pesticides stored in ammo dumps." "It seems Iraqi soldiers were obsessed with keeping ammo dumps insect-free Don't worry, chief. The article was read very well. You may want to work on your own reading comprehension.