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    On the authority of Abu Sa'id (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said:<br /><br />Let not any one of you belittle himself. They said: O Messenger of Allah, how can any one of us belittle himself? He said: He finds a matter concerning Allah about which he should say something, and he does not say [it], so Allah (mighty and sublime be He) says to him on the Day of Resurrection: What prevented you from saying something about such-and-such and such-and-such? He will say: [It was] out of fear of people. Then He says: Rather it is I whom you should more properly fear.
  1. Is Hell In Islam Eternal?

    :sl: If you don't agree with what he has said, (and the other scholars) please say so brother.
  2. Is Hell In Islam Eternal?

    :sl: I guess you got your information from here? (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_en.wikipedia(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/wiki/Tafsir"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_en.wikipedia(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/wiki/Tafsir[/url] You should scroll down a little. Criticism Praise for al-Ghazali not withstanding, he also received criticism from within Islam: Ibn Taymiyyah states: “ If we assume that someone narrated the view of the salaf but what he narrated is far removed from what the view of the salaf actually is, then he has little knowledge of the view of the salaf, such as Abu’l-Ma’aali, Abu Hamid al-Ghazali, Ibn al-Khateeb and the like, who did not have enough knowledge of hadith to qualify them as ordinary scholars of hadith, let alone as prominent scholars in that field. For none of these people had any knowledge of al-Bukhari and Muslim and their hadiths, apart from what they heard, which is similar to the situation of the ordinary Muslim, who cannot distinguish between a hadiith which is regarded as sahih and mutawatir according to the scholars of hadith, and a hadith which is fabricated and false. Their books bear witness to that, for they contain strange things and most of these scholars of ‘ilm al-kalam (science of kalam) and Sufis who have drifted away from the path of the salaf admit that, either at the time of death or before death. There are many such well-known stories. This Abu Hamid al-Ghazali, despite his brilliance, his devotion to Allah, his knowledge of kalam and philosophy, his asceticism and spiritual practices and his Sufism, ended up in a state of confusion and resorted to the path of those who claim to find out things through dreams and spiritual methods."[21] ” Similarly, Imam an-Nawawi wrote in his one of his books: “ Imam al-Ghazali was denounced in his books which were unacceptable to the scholars of his madhab and others, namely his odd statements such as what he said in Muqaddimat al-Mantiq at the beginning of al-Mustasfa: ‘This is the introduction to all knowledge, and whoever does not learn this, his knowledge cannot be trusted at all. ” [citation needed] In addition, Abu 'Umar ibn as-Salah, a well-known Shafi'i scholar wrote: “ A lot has been said about Abu Hamid, and a lot has been narrated from him. As for these books (meaning al-Ghazali’s books which contradict the truth) no attention should be paid to them. As for the man himself, we should keep quiet about him, and refer his case to Allah."[22] ” Ibn Rushd (Averroes), a rationalist, famously responded that "to say that philosophers are incoherent is itself to make an incoherent statement."[citation needed] Rushd's book, The Incoherence of the Incoherence, attempted to refute Al-Ghazali's views, though the work was not well received in the Muslim community.[citation needed] Al-Ghazali is also accused for using or mentioning weak Hadiths in his book Ihya'ul Ulumuddin (The Revival of Religious Sciences). Response to criticism While many of the hadiths contained in Ihya Uloom ad-Deen are weak or fabricated, many of these were prevalent hadith at the time.[citation needed] Abdul-Fattāh Abu Ghuddah states: "Imam Ghazali was unique in regards to the knowledge of Jurisprudence, its principles, Tasawwuf, beliefs, philosophy and others except for the knowledge of Hadith, for verily he did not spare time to master it".[23] Al-Ghazali has mentioned regarding himself, "And my knowledge of Hadith is but scanty."[24]
  3. Is Hell In Islam Eternal?

    :sl: Alhamdulillah :sl: My offer still stands if you are interested.
  4. Is Hell In Islam Eternal?

    :sl: O ye who believe! Eat not up your property among yourselves in vanities: But let there be amongst you Traffic and trade by mutual good-will: Nor kill (or destroy) yourselves: for verily Allah hath been to you Most Merciful! If any do that in rancour and injustice,- soon shall We cast them into the Fire: And easy it is for Allah. [4:29-30]
  5. Is Hell In Islam Eternal?

    :sl: Sorry brother, I didn't quite understand what you meant by that? :sl:
  6. Is Hell In Islam Eternal?

    :sl: I think this would come under rule #26. I'm not sure if I want to continue the hell being eternal here, but if you use MSN I'd be happy to talk with you properly.
  7. Is Hell In Islam Eternal?

    :sl: This is going off topic, however, there are some scholars who argue that suicide bombing (or as they call it, martyrdom operations); are permissible under certain circumstances. I wouldn't say that ALL suicide bombers die in a state of disbelief, Allah knows best. It may be that Allah will forgive them because of their intentions... there isn't alot of proof to say whether this act is definitely halal, or definitely haram. However, if someone kills themselves because they have lost all hope, and have given up on Allah then this is a different thing. This topic goes against forum rules, so it's probably not a good idea to discuss this here.
  8. :sl: brother :sl: I'm not sure where you got the age "16" from, there is no evidence to suggest this brother. The Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wassallam) advised us to grow our beards and trim our mustaches. I don't think there is any hadith of The Prophet (Sallallahu alaihi wassallam) himself advising us to keep the beard at fist length, or that his mustache was trimmed to the extent that you could see through it. However, there are hadiths which show that Ibn Umar trimmed his beard to fist length, and trimmed his mustache very closely. Taken from (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetislamqa(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/index.php?ref=6657&ln=eng&txt=Beard%20fist%20length"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetislamqa(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/index.php?ref=6657&...20fist%20length[/url]
  9. Plans To Attack Our Forum

    Everyone knows about 711chan, it's no secret. It's the ones that we don't know about which is going to be a problem... Anonymous are a pretty large group... shame they are very unorganized though. I don't even know why they would continue using 711chan when they know they have spies in there already. Weird.
  10. Plans To Attack Our Forum

    Might not be such a good idea to go on any of their websites unless your behind a proxy?
  11. Plans To Attack Our Forum

    Anonymous are a well known group of "hackers". I'd advise everyone to be careful, don't trust anyone, don't give out any personal information. Dot, take care in who you give moderator powers. I don't think they will give up that easily, be ready.
  12. Is Hell In Islam Eternal?

    :sl: Trying to twist things again are we? When have I ever said that Hell being eternal is part of the 5 pillars of Islam? Or that denying Hell is eternal makes you a disbeliever? Also, is believing in the Day of Judgment part of the 5 pillars of Islam? ...yet you have to believe in the afterlife in order to be a Muslim. There is sufficient proof in the Quran as to Hell being eternal, and in the hadith. The scholars use the Quran and the hadith to prove that Hell is eternal, they provide evidence, they do not follow their own opinion. Although, I can see why you find this difficult to understand, as you have already stated that you think the scholars are liars. I think you saying this alone shows your ignorance. Stop comparing believers to disbelievers, I say alhamdulillah that we are not as "developed" as them and I say alhamdulillah we know who our Creator is. The reason we are in this current condition is because our priorities aren't in order. Our job is to worship Allah, not to get so attached to this dunya and compete with anyone. However "developed" you see these people as is nothing, if you don't know your Creator then you're not living. Our condition is because we have gone away from Islam, and we have become attached to the dunya... yet your preaching about "human development"? You keep talking about how we should "think for ourselves", but you don't realise what you are saying. There's a saying... "Do not put a question mark where Allah has put a full stop" Allah commands us to think and ponder, and question, but you're questioning HIM. I and others have given you sufficient proof from the Quran. Excuse me? I think you know the reason why I asked this. I asked this because you said that you don't like hadiths and find them funny... yet you pray according to them? Is this not hypocrisy I don't know what is. I was asking the sister a question, I didn't mean anything by it. I just wanted to make sure she didn't do that unintentionally. She didn't have a problem with it, why should you? The proof is from the Quran. You cannot QUESTION the Quran. You cannot question Allah. Not only are you questioning Allah but you are half quoting the Quran (Which is against the forum rules). This thread isn't getting anywhere. I advise everyone not to post here anymore inshaAllah, we have said enough already.
  13. Is Hell In Islam Eternal?

    :sl: llogical, we all do understand that hell is eternal. The majority of Muslims understand that hell is eternal. If you look at my previous posts you can see the proof that hell is eternal. I have provided evidence from the Quran, hadith, and from the scholars. As you can see, odobknarf, has not. This isn't a topic which NEEDS to be discussed, this is like discussing whether prayer is obligatory... there is no need for it.
  14. Is Hell In Islam Eternal?

    :sl: Was that unintentional, or are you a Shi'a?