Jump to content
Islamic Forum


Senior Member
  • Content count

  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won


Everything posted by andalusi

  1. My english is not so good, but you will understand me what i want to say. Many atheists say that life was created by chance. Now i ask them , can you take numbers from 1 to 20 in a row, shake it a throw numbers out and what is the chance, that 20 numbers are in order 1,2,3,4,5....20 and not like this 3,5,1,9,15, 17... The chance that such event happens is 0% So how can all of this be a chance and that there is no creator in this universe. Reason 1 HOW CAN NATURE CREATE A BABY WITH ORGANS IN MOTHERS WOMB AND THAT BABY DOES NOT NEED THOSE ORGANS IN THE WOMB, LIKE EYES, EARS, MOUTH, LEGS, HANDS AND SO ON? DOES NATURE KNOW FUTURE SO IT EQUIPS BABY WITH ORGANS SO IT CAN LIVE NORMALLY IN THIS WORLD? DOES NATURE KNOW THAT BABY WILL EAT IN FUTURE SO IT DOES NOT COVER TEETH/BONES IN MOUTH AND COVER ALL OTHER BONES, CAN YOU IMAGINE COVERED TEETH WITH FLESH? Does nature know the future that little baby shall eat apple, meat and other hard food, so it does not cover bones in the mouth (teeth)with flesh while all other bones in human body are covered. Does nature know the future, so it creates glands in the baby, so the baby can have sex after 18-25 years when, glands that creates natural lubricant so it is easy to have sex. no, God know the future sop it equips the baby with all organs that he/she needs for life on this earth. Reson 2 If earth was little closer to the sun we would be burned, life impossible for humans, If earth was little bit farther from the sun, everything would freeze, life would be impossible for humans. If there was little bit more oxygen in atmosphere we could not live normally due to fire in nature, if there was less oxygen in atmosphere than it is today we could not breath. If the earth had not angle of 23 degrees we would not have 4 different periods in a years, summer, autumn, winter, spring. If the moon was 80 000 km farther from the earth, life would be almost impossible for humans, beacuse oceaon would flood the continents. If the atmosphere was thinner or smaller, meteors would bombing us all the time, life impossible. Reason 3 How can someone give something wich he does not possess in his own hands, HOW CAN NATURE GIVE BRAIN AND INTELECT TO HUMANS AND NATURE ITSELF DOES NOT HAVE BRAIN NOR INTELECT. so someone who have something can give it to other, God has intelect and has power to give to humans. Reason 4 Explosion always create chaos, have you ever seen that explosion creates a new BMW with GPS and other stuff. No, so How can Big bang create such harmony in nature ? Of course God started big bang and controlled it and crated life here on this planet. God said in the Quran that He started Big bang, and created universe. Reason 5 Even we can see evidence of God existence in animals, they are equiped with capabilities for survival, HOW CAN FISH, BUTTERFLY,caterpillars, SPIDERS HAVE BIG FALSE EYES ON THEIR BODIES, AND THEIR REAL SMALL ARE HIDDEN, BIG EYES ALWAYS ASSOCIATE WITH BIGGER ANIMALS SO THE PREDATORS WILL BE SCARED WHEN THEY SEE THEM. WHO DESIGNED THOSE ANIMALS, WHO EQUIPED THOSE SMALL ANIMALS WITH FALSE BIG EYES ON THEY BODIES SO THEY CAN SCARE PREDATORS AND SURVIVE. GOD OF COURSE. Reason 6 Fine tuning of the universe, if values in the universe was little lower universe would dissipear, if values in the universe was little higher universe would also dissipear, Look what scientists say about that So correct values in universe is also evidence that universe has a creator. God. This fish have false eye close to the tail, while real small eye is covered with black string. HOW CAN A SUCH SMALL FISH HAVE CAPABILITIES TO CREATE FALSE BIG EYE CLOSE TO THE TAIL, WHILE REAL SMAL EYES ARE HIDDEN. DOES THE FISH KNOW THAT FALSE BIG EYE resembles bigger animal so it can scare predators, and hide his own little eye with black string. No, the fish does not now that, it is God , who is the designer of this little fish, so he equips it with false big eye, and hide fish real eye. Actually, what look like eyes are not eyes at all. They are skin patterns called ‘false eyes’ - adapted by these caterpillars as a defense against predators. The actual eyes are located in the areas indicated by the green circles other animals with same defending mechanism.
  2. Workingman, we can continue our discussions here, and if you can bring more christians here to discuss these topics with us it would be great. I hope that you will be more logical than your were in previous debates. beacuse i am helpless against unlogical people :) My question for you is, Is "I and my father are one" evidence for you that jesus is God?
  3. Attention people Real testable evidence of divine orgin of the holy quran. you can confirm it by yourself Golden ratio in Nature and Quran Definition Nature Adolf Zeising, whose main interests were mathematics and philosophy, found the golden ratio expressed in the arrangement of branches along the stems of plants and of veins in leaves. He extended his research to the skeletons of animals and the branchings of their veins and nerves, to the proportions of chemical compounds and the geometry of crystals, even to the use of proportion in artistic endeavors. In these phenomena he saw the golden ratio operating as a universal law.[49] In connection with his scheme for golden-ratio-based human body proportions, Zeising wrote in 1854 of a universal law "in which is contained the ground-principle of all formative striving for beauty and completeness in the realms of both nature and art, and which permeates, as a paramount spiritual ideal, all structures, forms and proportions, whether cosmic or individual, organic or inorganic, acoustic or optical; which finds its fullest realization, however, in the human form."[50] In 2003, Volkmar Weiss and Harald Weiss analyzed psychometric data and theoretical considerations and concluded that the golden ratio underlies the clock cycle of brain waves.[51] In 2008 this was empirically confirmed by a group of neurobiologists.[52] In 2010, the journal Science reported that the golden ratio is present at the atomic scale in the magnetic resonance of spins in cobalt niobate crystals.[53] Several researchers have proposed connections between the golden ratio and human genome DNA.[54][55][56]Golden ratio in humans Golden ratio in position of Mekka and Kaba (muslim holiest place), from North pole to Mekka, and from Mekka to south pole Golden ratio in Quranic verse about Mekka from the begining of the verse to en of the word Mekka there is 29 letter, and from Word mekka to end of the verse there is 18 letter. We see clearly golden ration in nature, humans, position of Mekka, and quranic verse about Mekka. Golden ratio in Quran In this example we see clearly nummerical miracle, between odd and even numbers and how the correspond to sum of chapters and verses Here, we have repetetive nummerical values from the table above for example chapters 85 and 99 have same nummerical value 107, we summerize all repetitive nummerical values Here, we have non-repetitive nummerical values, and we summerize them also We can clearly see golden ratio between Reptitive and non-repetitive nummerical values from this table Golden ratio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia to test this use this excel file with all verse and chapter numbers http://www.answering-christianity.com/odd_even_miracle.xls or this http://manyprophetsonemessage.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/checksum-full-table.xls
  4. explanation Why Islam is The Only True Religion and not only that, God informed us in quran about scientific facts wich western scientist also confirmed that this info must be from God watch here and hear what they say about quran people in 6th century did not have, teelscope, microscope, computers and amplifiers to discover such things ok we can begin with some of scientific facts which God talks about in Quran God said this in quran. Big bang 30- Do not these disbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were an integrated mass, which We then split, and from water We made all living things? Will they not believe even then? 21-The Prophets, 30 EXPANDING UNIVERSE 47- With power did We construct heaven. Verily, We are expanding it. 51-The Dispersing, 47 THE UNIVERSE IN GASEOUS/SMOKE STATE Then He turned to the heaven when it was smoke...(The Noble Quran, 41:11)" A new star forming out of a cloud of gas and dust (nebula), which is one of the remnants of the "smoke" that was the origin of the whole universe. (The Space Atlas, Heather and Henbest, page 50) Nebula like red rose "When the sky disintegrates, and turns rose colored like paint. - (The Noble Quran, 55:37)" What Allah Almighty is Saying here is that when Galaxies explode, they form a rose-shaped explosion. He is also telling us that the Universe will all turn into exploded galaxies looking like roses when the Day of Judgment happens. Universe flat like a sheet of paper The Day that We roll up the heavens like a scroll rolled up for books (completed),- even as We produced the first creation, so shall We produce a new one: a promise We have undertaken: truly shall We fulfill it. (The Noble Quran, 21:104)" a scroll Iron was sent down And we SENT DOWN THE IRON,wherein there is strength, and many benefits for the people[57:25] look here how God sent down iron , explanation by discovery channel
  5. The Secularisation Of Tawhid/monotheism

    thank i am busy now with facebook page and Group Numerical miracles in the Qur'an https://www.facebook.com/quranicvisualmiracles Amazing new stuff has been found, like it to get notifications when something new is uploaded
  6. The Secularisation Of Tawhid/monotheism

    yes it was closed and now it is open again
  7. The Secularisation Of Tawhid/monotheism

    was not this forum closed for posting, what is this now??? great that it is Active again :D
  8. Non-religious Evidence That God Exists

    great video about fine tuning of the universe
  9. the red one is not correct, 7 last verses has 26 words
  10. Non-religious Evidence That God Exists

    ¨ frog with false eyes spider with human or ape face
  11. show us a hadith from prophet muhammed about this.
  12. you cant translate like that in googe earth, it will not recognize it. by the way it is turks who discovered this numericla miracle with tayyib erdogan in the quran, not me. what we can see is that letters TRKY are next to each other, and even spelling is almost same as Turkey (in the quran Tarakay)
  13. https://translate.google.com/#ar/en/%D8%AA%D9%8E%D8%B1%D9%8E%20%D9%83%D9%8E%D9%8A تَرَ كَي Turki english
  14. why Fa, Fa is irrelevant, ta ra kay is important not Fa
  15. i think this is amazing :cool:
  16. not good in my opinion, beacuse opening portal of hell, that did not happen, you cant connect something with quran wich has not occured and try to coonect it when there is no connection
  17. i am not convinced, it seems far fetched to me, i like simple stuff wich are easy to understand but difficult to copy or create. i dont say you are not right, i just think this is far feacthed for me.
  18. if you find anything new what is not on this forum, post it here so we all can test and verify it.
  19. God says in quran that only God knows when the Judgment day will come, but God informed Muhammed about signs of this Judgment day, end of the world. When these signs comes then know that we coming closer and closer to Judgment day and that Muhammed spoke the truth. God says in Quran about Judgment day: "Closer and closer to mankind comes their Reckoning(Judgment day): yet they heed not and they turn away." (Al-Anbiya' 21:1) Talking shoes prophecy By Him in Whose Hand is my soul, the Hour will not come until a man’s whip and shoes talk to him, and his thigh will tell him about what happened to his family after he left!” (Tirmizi, Fitten 19, Hadith 2182). It was reported from Abu Sa'id that the Prophet (Muhammed) said: "The Hour will not come until the time when a man will leave his home, and his shoes or whip or stick will tell what is happening to his family." (Ahmad). What do you say about this people? 3 Prophecies from Muhammed in 1 hadith The Prophet (saws) said, 'Some people of this Ummah(Nation) will be swallowed up by the earth, some will be transformed into animals, and some will be bombarded with stones.' One of the Muslims asked, 'When will that be, O Messenger of Allah?' He said, 'When singers and musical instruments will become popular, and much wine will be drunk.'" (Narrated by Tirmidhi) 1. swallowed up by the earth, Guatemala Germany Close Look at Sinkhole that Swallowed Florida Man World still grappling with epidemic of sinkholes: Chinese village suffers over 20 sinkholes in five months January 15, 2013 – CHINA – Residents in the village of Lianyuan in southern China’s Hunan Province have been treading rather gingerly these last few months. Over 20 sinkholes have opened up in the ground since last September. The cave-ins, which range in size, have seen houses collapse and rivers run dry. And there is never any warning as to where and when the sinkholes occur. According to local authorities, the main reason for the cave-ins is the number of coalmines in the area. It is not clear what steps are being taken to prevent further sinkholes from appearing. http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/2013/01/15/world-still-grappling-with... Croatia 2. some will be transformed into animals, 3. and some will be bombarded with stones. Man claims aliens targeted his home with meteorites Scientists at Belgrade University have confirmed that the rocks are all meteorites http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/bosnia/7899549/Man-claims-alien... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp5eg_lk8zA 'When singers and musical instruments will become popular, and much wine will be drunk. He(Muhammed) said peace be upon him: "Approaching the Hour you will find: men imitate women, and women imitate men) [Narrated by Abu Naim]. Muhammed said: Men will imitate women; and Women will imitate men.(Allama Jalaluddin Suyuti, Durre-Mansoor) Man as woman Woman as man “Now, tell me of the Last Hour,” asked the man. The Prophet Muhammed (peace and blessings be upon him) replied, “The one asked knows no more of it than the one asking.” “Then tell me about its signs,” said the man. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) replied, “That slave women give birth to their mistresses; and that you see barefoot, unclothed, beginning shepherds competing in the construction of tall buildings. Then the visitor left, and I waited a long time. Then the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) asked me, “Do you know, Umar, who the questioner was?” I replied, “Allah and His Messenger know best.”He said (Allah bless him and give him peace), “It was Jibril. He came to you to teach you your religion.”Sahih Muslim” Dubai 1950, a village Dubai now New names for of alcohols The Messenger of Allah peace be upon him said : "A range of my Ummah will make alcohols legal for themselves, they call it by another names" [Narrated by Ahmad]. Really alcohols now have many names: beer, vodka and whiskey ... And all new names were not known before, it is the Holy Prophet, who told the prophet that people will invent new names for alcohols? not only that, even spcific names for it PEOPLE DO YOU BELIEVE NOW THAT MUHAMMED WAS INDEED PROPHET OF GOD Muhammed announced second coming of Jesus in future Abu Hurayrah said: The Messenger of God Muhammed said: “How will you be when the son of Mary descends amongst you and your imam (is) from amongst you ?” Jabir bin ‘Abd Allah is reported to say: I heard the Messenger of God say: “A section of my people will not cease fighting for truth and will prevail till the Day of Resurrection.” He said: “Jesus son of Mary would then descend and their (Muslims') commander (amir) would ask him to come and lead them in prayer, but he would say: ‘No, some amongst you are commanders over some (amongst you).’” This is the honor from God for this Ummah (Muslim). God’s Messenger said: By him in whose hands my soul is, (Jesus) son of Mary will descend amongst you shortly as a just ruler (hakaman muqsitan) and will break the cross and kill the pig and abolish the jizyah. Wealth will flow (in such abundance that) nobody will accept (any charitable gifts). (Bukhari 3/425, Muslim 1/p. 255).
  20. keep up with the great work, i will analyse your findings carefully when i got some free time
  21. this is about previous scriptures and nations, not about quran and muslims. It's like if you count Human and all Components and they came the same. Than you say "Not good enough where are the Animals?"