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1. Numerical Miracles In The Quran, Real Evidence

i thought ALIF LAM is 2 separate letters  not 1.Im sure when i was counting letters before somewer i counted it as 2 . Its got to be consistent. stick 2 1 count not 2

look

MYKHLA ZYZALA VHV DRALA

AS YOU CAN see RA--->AR letter next to eachother are after 18 letters

2. Numerical Miracles In The Quran, Real Evidence

This one I not understand. Maybe I'm wrong but I not count 29 letters...

actually i dont like this example since it counts with shadda not written letters

so if there is shadda above they counted it as two letters, it is also logical way of counting , shadda stands for double letter, it is written as one but pronoounced as two double letters

3. Numerical Miracles In The Quran, Real Evidence

Indeed if we count only the word, without the context, we have 12. However, rather than divine design, I think is a coincidence because it appears in singular 2 times in these verse:

2/185, 2/194 and 34/12

Another example: the sea to the land ratio "miracle" is possible due to fact that there are 33 word sea and 12 word land.

33:12 = 2,75.  We have around 3 times word sea than word land.

I don't believe this is a miracle due to the fact that these two words appears both in 9 verses. If they not appeared both 9 times, then the result will be surely anormal and impossible to be human.

Now, if you believe this is a miracle, then believe. Dawud is very convinced about  :D

but 3 different counting styles produce alsmot same results , around 72 % wich is in reality now

so how can that be coincidence?

4. Numerical Miracles In The Quran, Real Evidence

I was reading through it, Amazingggg . I always skipped it never looked at it but now i have. However on tht 1  u count 13 letters till the letter seen which is not good so i dnt agree with tht.

i agree, that is not good with 13 letters, so we can exclude 13 but 27 is accurate :)and logical

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5. Numerical Miracles In The Quran, Real Evidence

No, it still translated as MONTHS

you dont understand man

word there is in singular but beacuse it is translated verse they translate according how it is said in english

you cant say in english 12 month as it is said in arabic, you translate 12 months, even though it is said in singular in arabic

look for yourself

شَهْرًا

http://context.reverso.net/translation/english-arabic/month

[Nanjing - 1 month after takeover]
[نانجينج بعد شهراً من السيطره عليها]

Give him another month to think about it.
فليمكث هنا شهرا اخر ليفكر في الامر

as you can see same word Shahran but it is in singular not plural
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(2:185:1) shahru

Month

شَهْرُ رَمَضَانَ الَّذِي أُنْزِلَ فِيهِ الْقُرْآنُ هُدًى لِلنَّاسِ

(2:185:16) l-shahra

the month

فَمَنْ شَهِدَ مِنْكُمُ الشَّهْرَ فَلْيَصُمْهُ

(2:194:1) al-shahru

The month

الشَّهْرُ الْحَرَامُ

(2:194:3) bil-shahri

(is) for the month

بِالشَّهْرِ الْحَرَامِ وَالْحُرُمَاتُ قِصَاصٌ

(2:197:2) ashhurun

(are) months

الْحَجُّ أَشْهُرٌ مَعْلُومَاتٌ

(2:217:3) l-shahri

the month

يَسْأَلُونَكَ عَنِ الشَّهْرِ الْحَرَامِ قِتَالٍ فِيهِ قُلْ قِتَالٌ فِيهِ كَبِيرٌ

(2:226:7) ashhurin

months

لِلَّذِينَ يُؤْلُونَ مِنْ نِسَائِهِمْ تَرَبُّصُ أَرْبَعَةِ أَشْهُرٍ

(2:234:9) ashhurin

months

يَتَرَبَّصْنَ بِأَنْفُسِهِنَّ أَرْبَعَةَ أَشْهُرٍ وَعَشْرًا

(4:92:52) shahrayni

(for) two months

فَمَنْ لَمْ يَجِدْ فَصِيَامُ شَهْرَيْنِ مُتَتَابِعَيْنِ تَوْبَةً مِنَ اللَّهِ

(5:2:9) l-shahra

the month

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا لَا تُحِلُّوا شَعَائِرَ اللَّهِ وَلَا الشَّهْرَ الْحَرَامَ

(5:97:8) wal-shahra

and the month(s)

جَعَلَ اللَّهُ الْكَعْبَةَ الْبَيْتَ الْحَرَامَ قِيَامًا لِلنَّاسِ وَالشَّهْرَ الْحَرَامَ

(9:2:5) ashhurin

months

فَسِيحُوا فِي الْأَرْضِ أَرْبَعَةَ أَشْهُرٍ

(9:5:3) l-ashhuru

the sacred months

فَإِذَا انْسَلَخَ الْأَشْهُرُ الْحُرُمُ فَاقْتُلُوا الْمُشْرِكِينَ حَيْثُ وَجَدْتُمُوهُمْ

(9:36:3) l-shuhūri

(of) the months

إِنَّ عِدَّةَ الشُّهُورِ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ اثْنَا عَشَرَ شَهْرًا فِي كِتَابِ اللَّهِ

(9:36:8) shahran

months

إِنَّ عِدَّةَ الشُّهُورِ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ اثْنَا عَشَرَ شَهْرًا فِي كِتَابِ اللَّهِ

(34:12:4) shahrun

(was) a month

وَلِسُلَيْمَانَ الرِّيحَ غُدُوُّهَا شَهْرٌ

(34:12:6) shahrun

(was) a month

وَرَوَاحُهَا شَهْرٌ

(46:15:13) shahran

month(s)

حَمَلَتْهُ أُمُّهُ كُرْهًا وَوَضَعَتْهُ كُرْهًا وَحَمْلُهُ وَفِصَالُهُ ثَلَاثُونَ شَهْرًا

(58:4:5) shahrayni

(for) two months

فَمَنْ لَمْ يَجِدْ فَصِيَامُ شَهْرَيْنِ مُتَتَابِعَيْنِ مِنْ قَبْلِ أَنْ يَتَمَاسَّا

(65:4:11) ashhurin

months

إِنِ ارْتَبْتُمْ فَعِدَّتُهُنَّ ثَلَاثَةُ أَشْهُرٍ

(97:3:6) shahrin

month(s)

Clearly (no ambiguos) 10 MONTHS --> 21 - 10 = 11, nor 12

There are 3 "month(s)". Maybe you can made a miracle with one of them.

Shahran at 9:36:8 is singular while they translated it as months

7. Numerical Miracles In The Quran, Real Evidence

month 14 ?

Not 14 you cant search there , search in corpus quran.

8. Numerical Miracles In The Quran, Real Evidence

month 21 ?

As i said 12 times singular 9 times in plural

9. Numerical Miracles In The Quran, Real Evidence

Look: BAHR and BARR are binary-style encoded in these 9 verses because

EVERY verse have sea-land words.

We have 9 verse with 2 words.  9 X 2 = 18

Sea = 33 times --> 33 - 18 = 15

Land = 12 times --> 12 + 18 = 30

15 X 2 = 30

The dual forms have a 2-relationship

i dont think you know what binary means,

binary system is created by 0 and 1 digits

We have 9 verse with 2 words.  9 X 2 = 18

Sea = 33 times --> 33 - 18 = 15

Land = 12 times --> 12 + 18 = 30

15 X 2 = 30

what are you tlaking about, this is nonsence.

10. Numerical Miracles In The Quran, Real Evidence

I think that is an perfect exemple of binary-programmed Qu'ran !

i still dont understand what is binary-programmed Qu'ran ?

I think the 33 singular-time baḥr and 12 singular-time barr rather than divine design is another coincidence.

My hypothesis: these numerical miracles are made because of binary-coded, not a hidden meaningful.

how can it be coincidence when 3 different counting teachniques provide result somewhere around 72% wich is according to latest results from USA

1. 73.33 %

2. 73.98 %

3. 71.05%

so this is not coincidence

11. Numerical Miracles In The Quran, Real Evidence

In the Iron chapter, i am sceptic of the method you used. So if you count from the beginning of the chapter for finding let us say Oxygen, atomic number and you count and you find that it is mentioned before 16[the weight of O], so what do you do, and you might later realize that it is exactly mention also in the 16th word from the beginning. So that would not count according to me. Also did you find all of the atomic weights from this method, i.e. counting from the start of the chapter, and up until the first mention of the name of the atom? What about those atom name that are also mentioned by name but the count is not corresponding to the weight of the atom. Surely you haven't counted all 120 different atoms.

i have not search for all

but for many i searched i found

So if you count from the beginning of the chapter for finding let us say Oxygen, atomic number and you count and you find that it is mentioned before 16[the weight of O],

since we dont have letter O in arabic, if God wanted to programed it in the text, what letter would he use

would he use Alif beacuse it stands for vocals, and O is a vocal

so

that it is exactly mention also in the 16th word from the beginning.

eighter it most be programed with number 8 or 16, it must be counted when it appears first time , unless there is a reason to count from second or third, and if it is second it may imply that 2 scientist discovered it, if it is counted from 3rd occurence then it may imply that it was discovered by 3 scientist. do you understand me now.

12. Numerical Miracles In The Quran, Real Evidence

3 more numerical miracles

Ship 23 times- Drowning 23 times

64- They rejected him. Consequently, we saved him and those with him in the ship, and we drowned those who rejected our revelations, they were blind.

7-The Purgatory, 64

Ship/Ships 23 times

Drowning 23 times

Few 75 times - Appreciative/Thankful 75 times

The verse that connects these two words is like this:  13- Only a few of My servants are appreciative.
34-Sheba, 13

Trumpet 10 times -- Blow 20 times , blowing is mentioned twice more just like the verse connects two blows with a trumpet

68- The trumpet will be blown, whereupon everyone in the heavens and the

earth will be struck unconscious, except those who will be spared by God.
Then it will be blown another time,
whereupon they will all rise up, looking.
39-The Throngs, 68

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13. Numerical Miracles In The Quran, Real Evidence

The verse that connects these two words is like this:  13- Only a few(75 times) of My servants are appreciative(75 times).
34-Sheba, 13

there is a relation between the words “a few” and “appreciate.”

The total number of the derivatives of “qalil” (a few) and “shukr” (appreciate) are just the same: 75 times each.

http://corpus.quran....nary.jsp?q=\$kr#(76:9:10) shukr 75

but

http://corpus.quran....nary.jsp?q=qll#(2:83:26) 75 qalil, aqallat excluded since it means to carry,

Muslim4life7 how did you find this one??

14. Numerical Miracles In The Quran, Real Evidence

Muslim4life7, you have found 2 more numerical miracles

drowning-ship 23 times

horn/truphet 10 - blow 20

and verse says trumphet will be blown twice, 1 horn ---> 2 blows

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15. Numerical Miracles In The Quran, Real Evidence

ANother word count

64- They rejected him. Consequently, we saved him and those with him in the ship, and we drowned those who rejected our revelations, they were blind.

7-The Purgatory, 64

Drown is mentioned 23 times in ALL FORMS  -http://corpus.quran....nary.jsp?q=grq#(18:71:10)

79:1:2)

Ship is mentioned 23  in ALL FORMS

shiphttp://corpus.quran....nary.jsp?q=flk#(7:64:6) 23 times

violently the word gharqan  means drown aswell.

actually that word means drowning, to be exactly, in google translate it is drowning

غَرْقًا

Drowned

(غرقا) means drowning.

https://sistersnotes.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/ihsan-surah-an-naziat-1-5.pdf

it can mean voilently it can also mean drowning

http://www.almaany.com/quran/79/1/2/#.VuigJJzhC70

Meaning of غَرْقًا to English in Holy Quran

• غَرَق drowning
• غَرْق violently
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16. Numerical Miracles In The Quran, Real Evidence

Dawud look at you 5/97: Quran Corpus give this translation: and the month(s) --> this is what I mean by binary, there is 2 definition (month and months), is due to Arabic grammar

that word in 5/97 is singular, but is translated by some in plural

for example, in some languages some may say 21 month, while other translate it 21 months, in orginal text it is singular while in translation it is plural. do you understand now

verse 5:97

God has made the Ka'bah, the Sacred House, a means of support for mankind, as also the holy month, the sacrificial offerings, and consecrated cattle, so that you may understand that known to God is all that is in the heavens and the earth, and God has knowledge of everything.

Ali Quli Qara'i :

Allah has made the Ka‘bah, the Sacred House, a [means of] sustentation for mankind, and [also] the sacred month, the offering and the garlands, so that you may know that Allah knows whatever there is in the heavens and whatever there is in the earth, and that Allah has knowledge of all things.

Amatul Rahman Omar : Allâh has made the Ka'bah, the Holy House (at Makkah) to serve as an anchor (-a means of support) and a means of uplifting for mankind, and also( each) sacred month and animals brought as an offering and animals wearing necklaces (meant for sacrifice during the Hajj). He has done this that you may know that Allâh knows all that lies in the heavens and all that lies in the earth, and that Allâh has complete knowledge of all things. Arthur John Arberry : God has appointed the Kaaba, the Holy House, as an establishment for men, and the holy month; the offering, and the necklaces -- that, that you may know that God knows all that is in the heavens and in the earth; and that God has knowledge of everything.

some have translated it correctly

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17. Numerical Miracles In The Quran, Real Evidence

Of course there are some facts that amazing me.

these stuff wich i present are tested and verified stuff, this is amazing for me when i can see the miracle in front of my eyes, that is powerful feeling every time i discover new stuff in the quran.

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I understand that you see encoded letters to be discovered thousand years after to being amazed by these hidden combinations, isn't what do you means?

i am amazed beacuse it is logically programed infrmation wich we can testify and verify.

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And? as I posted before in chapter 7 we have 2 verses in which DNA is written 2 times. In chapter 7 RNA appears 5 times:

‏7:11 ولقد خلقناكم ثم صورناكم ثم قلنا للملائكة اسجدوا لادم فسجدوا الا ابليس لم يكن من الساجدين

‏7:28 واذا فعلوا فاحشة قالوا وجدنا عليها اباءنا والله امرنا بها قل ان الله لايامر بالفحشاء اتقولون على الله مالاتعلمون

‏7:84 وامطرنا عليهم مطرا فانظر كيف كان عاقبة المجرمين

‏7:132 وقالوا مهما تاتنا به من اية لتسحرنا بها فما نحن لك بمؤمنين

7:137 واورثنا القوم الذين كانوا يستضعفون مشارق الارض ومغاربها التي باركنا فيها وتمت كلمة ربك الحسنى على بني اسرائيل بما صبروا ودمرنا ما كان يصنع فرعون وقومه وماكانوا يعرشون

I think is all results because of Arabic words rather than divine encoded miracles.

forget that DNA 2 times, since it is mentioned in several verses, we cant decide if it is special or not

but 3 times only in one verse out of 6236 is special since it is connected to the starting year of science of genetics.

20. Numerical Miracles In The Quran, Real Evidence

you dont read carefully what i am writing to you

i said word month is mentioned in sigular 12 times, but in plural 9 times

12 times as in a year while 9 times as plural, also meaningful since we are in mothers womb 9 months

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21. Numerical Miracles In The Quran, Real Evidence

In some of them it is difficult to distinguish which heavenly bodies are meant (sura 6, verse 76; sura 82, verses 1-2).

When the night covered him over, He saw a star: He said: "This is my Lord." But when it set, He said: "I love not those that set."

Explain me how a comet sets...

you dont understand

When the night covered him over, He saw a star: He said: "This is my Lord." But when it set, He said: "I love not those that set."'

what he says it means planet venus probabaly, but Haly comet is hidden in the arabic text

this is double information

just like Edna story, story about women Edna, but even though there was some woman called edna i use her name to program DNA discovery in the future so i place it on correct position. do you understand

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