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  1. Why not? The Qu'ran has been writing in binary coded 

     

    day-night

     

    man-woman 

     

    etc.

     

    so thousands numerical logical pattern are there just by coincidence??? are you joking with me

     

    when you say coincidence, then it means it was not intened to be some kind logical numerical pattern but it happens to be by chance.

     

    you cant have thousands of numerical stuff and they all are coincidences, it is to stupid to assume that.


  2. Do you believe that the so-called HALY means Halley comet? Maurice Bucaille wasn't very sure about the meaning of kaukaban. Look:http://www.Islam-guide.com/bqs/17astronomy.htm The Planets

    It is difficult to say whether these are referred to in the Quran with the same exact meaning that is given to the heavenly bodies in the present day.

    The planets do not have their own light. They revolve around the Sun, Earth being one of them. While one may presume that others exist elsewhere, the only ones known are those in the solar system.

     

    Five planets other than Earth were known to the ancients: Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. Three have been discovered in recent times: Uranus, Neptune and Pluto.

     

    The Quran would seem to designate these by the word kaukab (plural kawakib) without stating their number. Joseph's dream (sum 12) refers to eleven of them, but the description is, by definition, an imaginary one.

     

    A good definition of the meaning of the word kaukab in the Quran Seems to have been given in a very famous verse. The eminently spiritual nature of its deeper meaning stands forth, and is moreover the subject of much debate among experts in exegesis. It is nevertheless of great interest to offer an account of the comparison it contains on the subject of the word that would seem to designate a 'planet'.

     

    Here is the text in question: (sura 24, verse 35)

     

    "God is the light of the heavens and the earth. The similitude of His light is as if there were a niche and within it a luminary. The luminary is in a glass. The glass is as if it were a planet glittering like a pearl."

     

    Here the subject is the projection of light onto a body that reflects it (glass) and gives it the glitter of a pearl, like a planet that is lit by the sun. This is the only explanatory detail referring to this word to be found in the Quran.

     

    The word is quoted in other verses. In some of them it is difficult to distinguish which heavenly bodies are meant (sura 6, verse 76; sura 82, verses 1-2).

     

    In one verse however, when seen in the light of modern science, it would seem very much that these can only be the heavenly bodies that we know to be planets. In sura 37, verse 6, we see the following:

     

    "We have indeed adorned the lowest heaven with an ornament, the planets."

     

    Is it possible that the expression in the Quran 'lowest heaven' means the 'solar system'? It is known that among the celestial elements nearest to us, there are no other permanent elements apart from the planets: the Sun is the only star in the system that bears its name. It is difficult to see what other heavenly bodies could be meant if not the planets. The translation given would therefore seem to be correct and the Quran to refer to the existence of the planets as defined in modern times.

     

    this is what i have been talking all the time


  3. It special to you because it indicate the 1865 year, but I see this being a numerical coincidence.

     

    do you know why it is not coincidence

     

    if this wa sonly case in the quran , we could maybe agree that it is coincidence, but we have thousand of so called coincidences in the quran, all of the cant be coincidence

     

    word day in singular simple form mentioned 365 times, word month singular 12 times, just like in a year, cant be coincidence, and many many other stuff. it is not logical to assume thousands of numerical logical pattern are all just coincidences 


  4. Andalusi , Greetings with respect .  Are you saying that those groups I had mentioned are not considered Islamic  ?  What you have said , makes sense . Those prophecies you quote seem to have come to pass .

     

    Thank you , for this is encouraging and useful information . Do not be discouraged in your faith Andalusi . I know you are not :yes: God honors only faith , and those who have faith naturally have love for God and love for their neighbor . Even though the World is on fire , God's plan will prevail . Though our physical lives are precious ,and rightly so , our souls are more precious to the One who placed them in our physical bodies . 

     

    Peace to you Andalusi .

     

    boko haram is not Islamic for sure since they joined ISIS, other groups i dont know how truthful followers of Islam they really are


  5. I still persuade that the ADN miracle isn't a really one, because after search in the Qu'ran I have find 3 verses which use DNA two times every one:

     

    دنا appears also 2 times in 21/17 LW ARDNA AN NTkDh LHWA LATkDhNH MN LDNA AN KNA FʻALYN

     

     

    2 times also in 7/44 WNADY AṢḤB ALJNH AṢḤB ALNAR AN QD WJDNA MA WʻADNA RBNA

    ḤQA FHL WJDTM MA WʻAD RBKM ḤQA QALWA NʻAM FADhN MWDhN BYNHM AN LʻANH ALLH ʻALY ALẒLMYN

     

     

    2 times also in 7/102 WMA WJDNA LAKThRHM MN ʻAHD WAN WJDNA AKThRHM LFSQYN

     

    I think the fact that in 18/65 DNA appears 3 times is due to a coincidence instead a mathematical-coded miracle.

     

    DNA 2 times mentioned several times, also DNA 1 time also several times

     

    but only 3 times in verse 18:65, that is why it is special

     

    if it was mentioned 3 times several verses then it would not be so special anymore


  6. Muhammed foretold ISIS in his speach and warned us against them

     

     

    Nu’aym ibn Hammad narrates in Al-Fitan, that the 4th Caliph, Ali ibn Abi Talib said: "When you see the black flags, remain where you are and do not move your hands or your feet. Thereafter there shall appear a feeble insignificant folk. Their hearts will be like fragments of iron. They will have the state. They will fulfil neither covenant nor agreement. They will call to the truth, but they will not be people of the truth. Their names will be parental attributions, and their aliases will be derived from towns. Their hair will be freeflowing like that of women. This situation will remain until they differ among themselves. Thereafter, God will bring forth the Truth through whomever He wills." (Kitab al-Fitan, Hadith. 573)

    People are asking: does this narration by Ali bin Abi Talib (k.)—that is related by AlBukhari’s teacher (Nu’aym bin Hamad) over one thousand two hundred years ago in his book Al-Fitan—refer to the ‘Islamic State’?

    Is it possible to understand the narration as follows?

    ‘When you see the black flags’: The flags of the ‘Islamic State’ are black.


    ‘Remain where you are’: i.e., stay where you are, O Muslims, and do not join them.
    ‘And do not move your hands or your feet’: i.e. do not help them financially or with equipment.
    ‘Thereafter there shall appear a feeble insignificant folk’: i.e. ‘weak’ and ‘insignificant’ in terms of understanding of religion, morality and religious practice. [i (Tahmeed) showed earlier, 'Foolish young people'!]
    ‘Their hearts will be like fragments of iron’: i.e. they will ruthlessly kill prisoners of war and cruelly torture people.
    ‘They will have the state’: For almost a century, no one has claimed to be an Islamic Caliphate other than the current ‘Islamic State’ in Iraq and the Levant. ‘They will fulfil neither covenant nor agreement’: The ‘Islamic State’ did not fulfil its agreement with the Sha’etat tribe after the tribe pledged allegiance to them; indeed the ‘Islamic State’ slaughtered them by the hundreds. They also killed journalists.
    ‘They will call to the truth’: The ‘Islamic State’ calls to Islam.
    ‘But they will not be people of the truth’: The people of the truth are merciful. The Prophet Muhammad said: ‘Have mercy and you will be shown mercy.’
    ‘Their names will be parental attributions’: Like: ‘Abu Muthanna’, ‘Abu Muhammad’, ‘Abu Muslim’ and so on.
    ‘And their aliases will be derived from towns’: Like: ‘Al-Baghdadi’, ‘al-Zarqawi’, ‘alTunisi’ and so on.
    ‘Their hair will be free-flowing like that of women’: ‘Islamic State’ fighters have hair precisely like this.
    ‘Until they differ among themselves’: Like the differences between the ‘Islamic State’ and its parent, the al-Nusra Front (al-Qaeda in Syria). The fighting between these two has led to around ten thousand deaths in a single year.
    ‘Thereafter, God will bring forth the truth through whomever He wills’: through a clear and correct Islamic proclamation (like this open letter).


    Sahih Bukhari 9.68:
    Narrated Yusair bin `Amr: I asked Sahl bin Hunaif, "Did you hear the Prophet saying anything about Al−Khawarij?" He said, "I heard him saying while pointing his hand towards IRAQ. "There will appear in it (i.e, Iraq) some people who will recite the Qur'an but it will not go beyond their throats, and they will go out from (leave) Islam as an arrow darts through the game's body.' "

    it is well know that ISIS orginally emerged in IRAQ

    The Crisis of ISIS: A Prophetic Prediction | Sermon by Hamza Yusuf



    Hudhayfah said: "The Prophet stood up one day to speak to us, and told us everything that was going to happen until the Hour, and left nothing unsaid. Some of the listeners learnt it by heart, and some forgot it; these friends of mine learnt it. I do not remember it completely, but sometimes it springs to mind, just as one might remember and recognise the face of a man whom one had forgotten, when one sees him."[Abu Dawud, Muslim] Muhammed foretold ISIS in his speach and warned us against them,
    The Saying of Ali bin Abi Talib (k.)

  7. Hi Andalusi

     

    Yes I can see that it is a sticking point for you but it’s not a sticking point for anyone who actually understands evolution or anyone who has witnessed the power of this idea in action in those programmable logic array experiments for example.  The only source of design information there was a random number generator and yet it designed a program far more efficient than the best a human programmer could do and it did so using features of the chips involved that we don’t and can’t know yet the program it came up with works.  This method is also clearly seen in action in those bacterial experiments I mentioned earlier where a number of colonies of bacteria were created from just one progenitor so there was no diversity at their inception yet they evolved into many forms while we watched and tracked their genetics even evolving a method of subsisting on a food source that was unusable by their progenitor.  Randomness and selection works, we know that, but you need to read more closely and in more detail to understand that.  Do you have what it takes to really understand the power of evolutionary theory?

     

    Russell

     

    my belief is that God programmed bacteria to adopt tob different situations, like switch on/off, when that specific situation occur, it swithes on.

     

    and you think it evolves, no, it is only programmed to adopt to another enviroment.


  8. I have a doubt

     

    ٱلَّيۡلُ here we read ALEYL with 1ل, nor the 2 from H,A,L,L,Y. It is a single ل

     

    See here from the abjad-calculator value of the verse 6/76:

     

    FLMA JN ʻALYH ALYL RAʼA KWKBA QAL HDhA RBY FLMA AFL QAL LA AḤB ALAʼAFLYN 

     

    http://www.masjidtucson.org/quran/wordCount/QuranGV.php

     

    Is the double ل derived from the shadda (double-consonant) ? In original Arabic text, however, the shadda is not writted.

    You are correct on that one only one L is written but is pronaonced as two

     

    But more correct is that it is written HALY still it points towards halley comet


  9. Hi Andalusi

     

    Do you remember some time ago I described some experiments in simulated evolution using programmable logic array chips?  In these experiments a computer, running an evolutionary algorithm, in other words a random number generator and a test function, programmed logic array chips to perform a function. At each round the best performing results were taken and modified at random and tested again.  The result, after thousands of rounds, were circuits that were far more compact and efficient than the best a human designer could come up with; circuits that the humans running the experiment couldn’t understand even after they saw them work and reverse engineered the code.  The code produced used features of those chips that the humans involved didn’t and couldn’t know existed.  Who was the designer in these experiments?  Did god get into the computer, even though we could watch every iteration of the random number generators, and fiddle the results?  We know that this was not necessary because we could watch every step in that process but you stated that there must be a designer for evolution to work.  How do you reconcile that claim with the results of this experiment, an experiment that has been repeated time and again since?

     

    Does god get personally involved in our experiments?  Is that really what you believe in?

     

    Remember when you say “logical for me” you are committing the fallacy of personal incredulity, you can’t write off a theory just because you don’t believe it, understand it or like it.  You have to find a valid issue with it.  Can you?  Apart from the fact that you don’t like and can’t believe it can you see any flaws in the evolutionary model here?

     

    I like your suggestion, “it is like factory and products without inteligent engeneers” because that is exactly what we watched happen in those logic array experiments, created products which did not have any engineers.  Did you know that the same method was used to find a method of writing to SD card and USB memory chips that would allow them to last for thousands of write cycles?  Machines doing evolutionary experiments on these circuits came up with a method for doing so that humans couldn’t.  We see products without intelligent engineers all the time you are just unaware of it.

     

    You ask “this is logical” and of course, since we’ve watched it happen time and again it is logical yes.  You don’t have to like it or even understand it but it’s real regardless and if you wish to study it the information is all out there to be had.  I can even point you in the right direction to find something to study if you are actually interested in understanding this stuff.

     

    One quick insight into evolutionary theory that you seem to be missing, evolution is a ratcheting system, it takes many many experiments to produce each improvement but as soon as a single, simple, improvement appears it will produce more offspring and so the genetic code that produced it will become more common in future generations, generations that will continue to try random experiments until another layer of improvement comes along.  That goes on for trillions of trillions of organisms over billions of years on this plant.  Winning the lottery is unlikely, I’ve been playing it occasionally all my life and have never won anything but if all of the organisms alive today bought a ticket right now there would be trillions of winners tomorrow.  Long odds sure but a huge number of entries too.  I know you don’t like large numbers and long odds but they are part of life in this world.

     

    Russell

     

    of course, just to believe that random events create complex smart structures is a terrible issue.


  10. If DAESH is not Islamic , then what is Al Shabab , Al Queda  ,Al Nusra Front , Boko Haram , The Taliban , and about 2 dozen other groups operating in the M.E. , Iraq , Pakistan ,  Tunisia , Libya ,Philippines , and around the Globe ?

     

    Someone should tell these people that they are not Islamic .

     

    just compare what they do and what prophet did and you will see how true "muslims" they really are

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  11. Are you living in Sweden at this month?

     

    yes, why?

     

     

     

    A lie goes to see in the brain

     

    fMR-skanningar measures the acid supply in the brain and thereby also each the brain activity is biggest. Skanningarna has shown that parts of the brain, sow asthe pan lobe, is extra active when we lie.

     

    The pan lobe - the front part of the brain - is involved in among other thing problem solution and planning. Most often, it is those parts of the brain that work with languages, analyses and logic that sheep to work hårt when we lie. And it goes therefore to see physically in the brain.

     

     

    translation of http://illvet.se/man...-avsloja-logner from Swedish into English made by http://www.worldling...translator.html

     

    You are true.

     

    i know beacuse if i lied people would embarass me and my religion Islam and not only that God would punish me catastrophically.


  12. I read today in swedish illustrated science magazines

    Scientists have found hiding place of a lie</strong></p>

    wstp1y.jpg
    http://illvet.se/manniskan/hjarnan/logn-hjarnskanner-kan-avsloja-logner

    And funny thing is we muslims already knew this from the Quran, God informed us about this 1400 years ago
    aqwas-ys.jpg No!  If he does not stop, We will take him by the naseyah (front of the head, forlock), a lying, sinful naseyah (front of the head, forelock)! aqwas-ym.jpg (Quran, 96:15-16)


  13. At least I'm not afraid of the defeat.

     

    I'm a TRUTH SEEKER. A real one. 

     

    I test with all means to discover erros or contradictions, and I'm not afraid (I tell you again) to lose. And you? 

     

    we are not here to destroy eachother, we are here to learn stuff, it is good if people join more here and if they want to do brainstorming to analyze eveything and try to find mistakes

    in my countings that would be great, they would actually see miracles and test them with their own eyes and hands.


  14. I have a question:

     

    can you bring me webs with abjad calculators or word calculators, I want to test myself the abjad calculations and word-distance letters like you do.

     

    here, you can see gematrical value for every word and verse in the quran

    http://www.masjidtucson.org/quran/wordCount/QuranGV.php

     

    word calculators, you have to do it manually like i do

    http://www.readquranonline.org/

    you have to count in the translitaration part, beacuse every word is separated clearly

     

    word distance letters use this Qur'an site

    http://www.answering-christianity.com/cgi-bin/quran/quran_search.cgi?search_text=&search_type=The+Entire+Noble+Quran&arabic=1&B1=Search 


  15. Of course if we follow your view of think we can admit it being a foretold prophecy, but although it can be 75. 

     

    We can read from left to right; and thus the alleged miracle desappear.

     but it can be 74, or 77, or 78 or 79

     

    it depends on gravitational fields of the sun and planet impact on it. normally without any gravitation field impact on itit is 76 years, that is why they write 76 years normally


  16. because ā is an A with macron, is prononced large, like AA

     

    no, remember this once for all, there is only one letter Alif written there, so only one letter A. how it is pronaounce it depends on what is above it

     

    if it is only one written A, and if they would pronaunce it like AAAAAAAA, as many A as you think, it would still be Halley, cant you understand this?

    beacuse chapter and verse support it. and God promise us in the quran he will show his signs in universe and in ouselves that Quran is from God.


  17. Do you understand that being an irrefutable miracle it must be one which no one can discuss them. It must be a clear proof. 

     

    Do you understand that is normally 76 years but sometimes is 75 and God only make perfect things, no ones which can be ignored?

     

    if you are to choose wich verse to put those letter, where would you put them, i would put it in verse 76 since it is normal orbit of the halley comet.


  18. I will continue this debate with you ONLY if we considere ALIF being double AA. 

     

    In case of Alif a "Hamza" is used and then the short vowel is placed on top of it. The sound is a single beat and no further elongation is required. http://www.central-mosque.com/index.php/Arabic/rules-of-tajweed.html

     

    OK ? Do you agree? Then we continue.

     

    i told you it is only one written Alif, even your site wich you posted above say it is one alif =a

     

    Letter Sound Transliteration End Middle Beginning Isolated (Original) Form

    ’alif

    ā

    ـا

    ـا

    ا

    ا

     

    i just dont know where you get two AA from, when we all can see that it is one alif written there, and even if it was i told, you it would still mean halley, cant you uderstand this? 


  19. Halley's Comet is arguably the most famous comet. It is a "periodic" comet and returns to Earth's vicinity about every 75 years, making it possible for a human to see it twice in his or her lifetime. The last time it was here was in 1986, and it is projected to return in 2061  

     

    http://www.space.com/19878-halleys-comet.html

     

     

    NASA says it is 76 years

    http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2015/01may_halleyids/

     

    Encyclopedia britannica says also 76 years

    http://global.britannica.com/topic/Halleys-Comet

     

    Another astronomical site say it is 76 years

    http://solarviews.com/eng/halley.htm

     

    MOst popular astronomy site Universetoday says it is 76 years

    http://www.universetoday.com/48991/halleys-comet/

     

    if it comes 75 that is only due to the gravitational impact on its normal orbit

    http://www.universetoday.com/48991/halleys-comet/


  20. It can't be orbit every 76 years if It can be orbit sometimes every 75 years

     

    Halley's Comet or Comet Halley (/ˈhæli/ or /ˈheɪli/), officially designated 1P/Halley,[2] is a short-period comet visible from Earth every 75–76 years (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halley%27s_Comet

     

    and 1682 moved in almost identical orbits and were separated by intervals of roughly 75 years.  (http://cometography.com/pcomets/001p.html)

     

    did i not tell, you before, it varied trough history 6 different years, from 74, 75, 76, 77, 78 and 79 this is beacuse of gravitational fields of sun and planets

     

    but normally it has its orbit 76 years, do you understand this?

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