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Yes exactly. So I meant to say that reason was enough for us, so we refrain from that. And I meant to say that is how we define nature in Islam, not in English language. To us what Allah likes and what Allah dislikes matter the most. And if a non Muslim is homosexual that actually is not our problem in sharia. Our problem would be if a Muslim does that. I don't know about what the other posters had said before. But in my opinion homosexuality is a bit gross, and is pretty much against human nature. Russell I suppose your real problem is with the sharia in Islam. Maybe your reall problem is with the punishments in Islam to those who go against Allah 's limits.

Yes I have read before what you posted and that is the reason I said that to us 'Muslims' In my post. To us 'God doesn't like it' is a reason good enough to refrain from it. In Islam we believe nature is in the hands of Allah. Allah is the decider. What ever He wills will happen. That is our belief. We believe Allah has created us. And in this life we should stay away from what He has forbidden. Nature doesn't just happen to be with time. It what Allah has willed. In every way that is. And Allah has created in such a way that we reproduce from a male and female. So the relationship must be between a man and a woman. What goes against that is unnatural. If you think that homosexuality is the solution to stop over population then you are wrong. There are contraception methods too. BTW I am a female and have a husband. :) Maybe if I was a non Muslim it would not be a problem to me. But to a Muslim, what Allah loves matter the most. And that is one reason I have a problem with homosexuality. On the whole I can say. 'God doesn't like it' is the best reason we have a problem with homosexuality

:sl: We say homosexuality is unacceptable for us Muslims, because Muslims are ones who obey Allah. That's a reason good enough for us to stay away from it. As for non Muslims, the first argument would be acceptance of Islam. And in your case it would be the existence of a Creator. Other arguments actually would come after that. But since you are curious, yes homosexuality is wrong, and in Islam it is regarded unnatural. Because the way the genes could be passed on to the next generation would be if a woman and man have a relationship. It is not natural for someone to be interested in the same sex as you.

:sl: i just want to say dont judge Islam by the actions of some muslims. yes the sharia is perfect....but muslims are not. we are humans and we are wrong a lot of times.

welcome to the forum...hope you find your stay here educational and enjoyable

:sl: Dermatographic urticaria (also known as dermographism, dermatographism or "skin writing") is a skin disorder seen in 4–5% of the population and is one of the most common types of urticaria,[1] in which the skin becomes raised and inflamed when stroked, scratched, rubbed, and sometimes even slapped. the baby doesnt need to be scratched or slapped for those ayaaths to appear. neither the skin is raised. i am not saying that this is a miracle.Allah au'alm.(Allah knows best) but Allah is capable of doing this.

alhamdulillah mashaAllah.....may Allah increase both of them in guidance. indeed it is Allah who guides people... Allahumma ya muqallibal quloob,thabbit galbuna a'laa dheenik. “Oh turner of the hearts (Allah, the Most High), keep our hearts firm on your religion“...Aameen

yes i know you would believe when you see/ hear/feel/smell/taste what you want to believe. but you cant feel/hear/smell/taste/see your own brain.what makes you believe that it is there? how do you know for sure that it is there before u get a scan done? you cant see it you know. your refusal to believe in Allah is your own problem. we believe in Allah and we believe that He is the Lord of the universe.if you dont want to believe....then it is up to you,noone can force you to believe. As Allah says in the Quran..."there is no compulsion in religion..."surat baqara 2:256 the proof is in you. if you refuse to see it, how can i prove anything else to you.you are refusing to see with your eyes open.you cant see with your eyes closed hmm. in Islam the person's child looks after his elderly parents with love and respect. old citizens are valuable to us muslims.serving your own parents dont stop them from making their lives better. hmmm what about those who enjoy the screams and suffering of innocent others in this world? arent they sick? aren't they sadist. they dont get punished for what they are doing in this world. and yes i repeat.i want those who torture others without any right in this world to be tortured in Hell. ."And they swear by Allah their strongest oaths that if a sign came to them, they would surely believe in it. Say, "The signs are only with Allah ." And what will make you perceive that even if a sign came, they would not believe." qran 6:109

yes i know you would believe when you see/ hear/feel/smell/taste what you want to believe. but you cant feel/hear/smell/taste/see your own brain.what makes you believe that it is there? how do you know for sure that it is there before u get a scan done? you cant see it you know. your refusal to believe in Allah is your own problem. we believe in Allah and we believe that He is the Lord of the universe.if you dont want to believe....then it is up to you,noone can force you to believe. As Allah says in the Quran..."there is no compulsion in religion..."surat baqara 2:256 the proof is in you. if you refuse to see it, how can i prove anything else to you.you are refusing to see with your eyes open.you cant see with your eyes closed hmm. in Islam the person's child looks after his elderly parents with love and respect. old citizens are valuable to us muslims.serving your own parents dont stop them from making their lives better. hmmm what about those who enjoy the screams and suffering of innocent others in this world? arent they sick? aren't they sadist. they dont get punished for what they are doing in this world. and yes i repeat.i want those who torture others without any right in this world to be tortured in Hell. ."And they swear by Allah their strongest oaths that if a sign came to them, they would surely believe in it. Say, "The signs are only with Allah ." And what will make you perceive that even if a sign came, they would not believe." qran 6:109

yes i know you would believe when you see/ hear/feel/smell/taste what you want to believe. but you cant feel/hear/smell/taste/see your own brain.what makes you believe that it is there? how do you know for sure that it is there before u get a scan done? you cant see it you know. your refusal to believe in Allah is your own problem. we believe in Allah and we believe that He is the Lord of the universe.if you dont want to believe....then it is up to you,noone can force you to believe. As Allah says in the Quran..."there is no compulsion in religion..."surat baqara 2:256 the proof is in you. if you refuse to see it, how can i prove anything else to you.you are refusing to see with your eyes open.you cant see with your eyes closed hmm. in Islam the person's child looks after his elderly parents with love and respect. old citizens are valuable to us muslims.serving your own parents dont stop them from making their lives better. hmmm what about those who enjoy the screams and suffering of innocent others in this world? arent they sick? aren't they sadist. they dont get punished for what they are doing in this world. and yes i repeat.i want those who torture others without any right in this world to be tortured in Hell. ."And they swear by Allah their strongest oaths that if a sign came to them, they would surely believe in it. Say, "The signs are only with Allah ." And what will make you perceive that even if a sign came, they would not believe." qran 6:109

salaam Mohamed :sl: had 12 wives as sis redeem has mentioned.but he did not take a second wife as long as khadheejah (ra) was alive.they had 6 kids. there is one to be mentioned.children is a blessing from Allah. we cant have children unless Allah wills for it. this is not a confusing issue. we muslims believe in Allah's help, and indeed anything is possible if Allah wills for it

xocoti,no iti is not so. the people diobey Allah then they are putting themselves in hell. it is Allah's mercy that Allah forgives His sincere slaves and saves them from the Hell fire

why would anyone disbelieve in his creator after He has created him and given him so many blessings? for example, would you like your child to serve someone else when he grows up without serving you?after all what you have done for him? and how is it not suitable for anyone to disbelieve after clear signs of the existance of Allah, unless ofcourse that person is blind and deaf to Allah's aayaaths?had that person lived forever by the grace of Allah, that person would have disbelieved forever. it would give me pleasure if i hear those who torture muslims in this world scream in hell. who call themselves good humans...talking about human rights.....how dare they kill innocent muslims just because we believe in Allah. and when we try to protect our selves we become terrorists. then there are who dont torture the muslims....we muslims if we have non muslim friends, we call to them on to the path of truth.-ie: Islam. if they believe it is good for them...if they dont, then Allah has the right to punish them for their disbelief as Allah has created them and given them all those blessings which they did not even ask for.

:sl: if the man has robbed someones' property, his hand has to be cut. because in Islam the robber has no respect for others' rights.then he has lost his right to have his hand with him.Allah has given him his hand.if he uses it to rob and disobey Allah, Allah has the right to order to cut his hand.

And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice]. surat annisa:3 it is completely halal for men to have upto four wives. and when Allah allows you something you dont have the right to make it haram. O you who have believed, do not prohibit the good things which Allah has made lawful to you and do not transgress. Indeed, Allah does not like transgressors. surat al maaidhah:87