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  1. The Future Of America: A Political Game!

    Actually, the game is popular on other forums: http://usgovsim.net/USG/viewtopic.php?f=194&t=30495 Lots of replies here and also below: http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=328749 http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=343844 And alternate history is a thing that many people find interesting and fun. It's not simply "woulda, shoulda, coulda", but a useful way to analyze real life history by considering what could have happened and comparing the results to what actually happened.
  2. The Future Of America: A Political Game!

    :huh: :huh: :huh: ??? I don't get what you're talking about??? This is just a fun game I thought some people on here might enjoy.
  3. The Future Of America: A Political Game!

    1976 Background (mostly taken from the game is this based upon, with some edits to fit my scenario: It wasn't long after Nixon's victory that rumors began to surface that he may have pulled some dirty tricks. It wasn't long before that in 1973 had revealed that Nixon had cronies infiltrate the DNC, steal election plans from hotel rooms and employ blackmail to sabotage the Democrats. After Sprio Agnew's resignation, Nixon appointed Nelson Rockefeller of New York as Vice-President (instead of Gerald Ford as in RL). In late 1973 Nixon would be forced to resign from the presidency leaving the liberal Rockefeller in charge. Rockefeller s term would be rocky however as he proved incapable of working with the conservatives within his own party. His failure to pardon Nixon and selection of moderate VP Ford would prove controversial. Democrats also refused to pass Rockefeller's agenda out of anger at his association with Nixon. Due to his families famous background and unimaginable wealth rumors would fly on both sides of the isle that he somehow "bought the Presidency" or "Set Nixon up". Of note, Ronald Reagan is running a conservative insurgent campaign in the GOP against Rockefeller. To vote: Choose ONE candidate that you are voting for from each party (so, vote for ONE Democrat and ONE Republican) and post your vote. RPing as delegates is highly encouraged, and may get your points or other rewards. You can also make deals with other delegates and candidates will take those into account, but they may or may not be accepted by the candidates themselves or may be altered. 1976 Democratic National Convention, 1st ballot Jimmy Carter Morris Udall Birch Bayh Frank Church Fred Harris Henry M. Jackson George Wallace Terry Sanford George McGovern Write-In (post name, or it won't count) 1976 Republican National Convention, 1st ballot Nelson Rockefeller Ronald Reagan Howard Baker Edward Brooke Dan Evans Barry Goldwater Harold E. Stassen Jesse Helms Write-In (post name, or it won't count) Example vote (so you can see how to vote on each ballot): Democrats: Henry M. Jackson Republicans: Dan Evans
  4. If this is in the wrong place, my apologies. Please move it to the right forum. :) Welcome to The Future Of America, a political game where you can decide the future course of U.S politics. This game is based upon a similar game by Alternatehistory.com forum user history nerd ( you can find one of the first threads for that game (called Screw Primaries) on that forum here: http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=326626 ). From that game: In our timeline party conventions became increasingly irreverent being slowly replaced by the more democratic process of Primaries. But what if they didn't? What if American Politics continued to be run on the old model with ballot after ballot and back room deals? In our timeline 1972 was the first election where Primaries had completely replaced the Convention as the method of choosing candidates. Not so in this universe! And me again: Basically, you and anyone else who wants to play will be voting on candidates for each party's presidential ticket at their respective national conventions (there are no primaries, hence the name of the game that inspired this) and I will run a simulated election and also simulate each term in office. So, basically we're running the national conventions for the two major parties? Yes. How does it work? You will vote on candidates for the presidential for both parties over a number of ballots and candidates are eliminated until one candidate has 50% plus one of the votes. What happens after that? You will do the same thing for the vice presidential nomination for both parties, and then I will simulate an election and the term of the winner. After that, we’ll do the same thing for the next presidential election, and so on until 2016ish. Can I write in candidates? Yes, you can. They must either be plausible candidates who were actually eligible politicians in real life or real life or fictional people added to the game by you or other players (see below). How can I add candidates? You will need to get points. How can I get some points? First, you need to make something from an in-universe perspective. This can be an commentary on the elections, a political ad, a Wikipedia infobox, etc. It just needs to have some effort put into it. Examples from that other game: I will then look over your submission and decide whether to approve it or not. If I do, you will get a point. So, how do I use points to add characters? You need to post that you are using a point to add someone to the game. This can be a real-life person (make sure to include a link to a Wikipedia page or something so I can vet the character) or a fictional character. If you are doing a fictional character, YOU CAN NOT MAKE ONE UP ON THE SPOT. You can choose a character used in USG (make sure to include a link or brief bio) or a fictional character from some other work of fiction (make sure to include a link and short description, and make the character realistic). Make sure to also include the office you want them to run for (House, Governor, Senate, etc.) You can NOT simply add someone onto the convention ballot right away, through. Let me guess, they need experience? Yes, that’s right! Let’s say its 1976 and you want to run someone in 1992 (let’s say Hank Hill). You make a wiki infobox to get a point, and then you spend that point to add Hank to the game as a House rep. (If you ask for a Senate seat or Governor for an inexperienced real life person or a fictional character, it may not happen because of their experience, so it might be better to get them into a House seat, state legislature, the Cabinet, or a state executive position (like Attorney General or Insurance Commissioner of a state)). Once 1992 nears, you can get and spend another point on Hank to run for president (you may not need to do so if he or she gets high-profile enough- check the news in various posts. If they are high-profile enough, they will run for President on their own and you won’t need to spend a point). Or you can choose to spend a point, say, in 1984 or 1988, to get Hank into a higher office, like the Senate or a governorship or the Cabinet to make him more experienced and therefore much better at running for the presidency (candidates who are not ready, even if chosen by the convention, will probably be crushed in the general election). Can you repeat all that again in a shorter version? Sure. Basically: Decide who you want to add to the game. Get a point by making something per the rules above. Spend a point to add that person or character to the game in some position. Optional: Spend another point to get that person elected to a higher office in the future to make them more electable. Spend another point to make them run for president (you may not need to do this- they may run for president on their own, especially if they are high-profile enough). What about people who historically run for or were likely to run for President? Do we have to spend points to add them too? No, historical candidates will probably be on the ballot anyway, so you might not have to worry about it. It just depends on how history goes and how the parties evolve. Can I spend points to making events happen (or not happen) or to give a career boost to people? Yes, you can! You can’t spend points to make candidates die before their OTL death or make bad things happen to them, through. I also will hold final approval on anything you want to do with points, so if you want to do something, just post and ask if its possible! And if I have any more questions? Just post in the thread and ask!
  5. Where Economists Agree

    There's not enough gold in the world today to handle our modern economy. And batering is just really hard and I don't want to lug around tons of stuff just to buy ice cream. Besides, paper money enables credit, which is good for consumers (provided they don't use too much of it).
  6. Where Economists Agree

    Note it says untrained, young workers. Most Western countries are far better then the U.S at training their workers.
  7. Where Economists Agree

    Actually, real life data has proven most of the things in the list true.
  8. A Hijabi U.s Military Commander?

    Islam is supposed to be a religion that stretches across boundaries, and Muslims fight each other all the time. If you live in a country where most of the people aren't Muslims, and that country has provided you with everything you need, and if it comes under attack, I say you should go defend that country.
  9. Where Economists Agree

    I think this was culled from worldwide polls...
  10. A Hijabi U.s Military Commander?

    War is between countries and peoples, not between religions. It's geopolitics, not a new Crusade.
  11. Where Economists Agree

    People already know about the first one, but they note that free trade and globalization has brought more people into the middle and upper classes then at any other time in history- you just need to make sure the poor aren't being screwed over by it. As for the second one, most economists agree with money creation as a valid tool of monetary policy, and it's actually quite useful.
  12. A Hijabi U.s Military Commander?

    Probably- it's just a description I wrote up really quickly, and there's a few errors- can you spot them?
  13. Where Economists Agree

    Saturday, February 14, 2009 News Flash: Economists Agree The recent debate over the stimulus bill has lead some observers to think that economists are hopelessly divided on issues of public policy. That is true regarding business cycle theory and, specifically, the virtues or defects of Keynesian economics. But it is not true more broadly. (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetthomsonedu(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/economics/mankiw/index.html"]My favorite textbook[/url] covers business cycle theory toward the end of the book (the last four chapters) precisely because that theory is controversial. I believe it is better to introduce students to economics with topics about which there is more of a professional consensus. In chapter two of the book, I include a table of propositions to which most economists subscribe, based on various polls of the profession. Here is the list, together with the percentage of economists who agree: A ceiling on rents reduces the quantity and quality of housing available. (93%) Tariffs and import quotas usually reduce general economic welfare. (93%) Flexible and floating exchange rates offer an effective international monetary arrangement. (90%) Fiscal policy (e.g., tax cut and/or government expenditure increase) has a significant stimulative impact on a less than fully employed economy. (90%) The United States should not restrict employers from outsourcing work to foreign countries. (90%) The United States should eliminate agricultural subsidies. (85%) Local and state governments should eliminate subsidies to professional sports franchises. (85%) If the federal budget is to be balanced, it should be done over the business cycle rather than yearly. (85%) The gap between Social Security funds and expenditures will become unsustainably large within the next fifty years if current policies remain unchanged. (85%) Cash payments increase the welfare of recipients to a greater degree than do transfers-in-kind of equal cash value. (84%) A large federal budget deficit has an adverse effect on the economy. (83%) A minimum wage increases unemployment among young and unskilled workers. (79%) The government should restructure the welfare system along the lines of a “negative income tax.†(79%) Effluent taxes and marketable pollution permits represent a better approach to pollution control than imposition of pollution ceilings. (78%) If we could get the American public to endorse all these propositions, I am sure their leaders would quickly follow, and public policy would be much improved. That is why economics education is so important. Note that the proposition about fiscal policy (#4) does not distinguish between taxes and spending as the best tool for purposes of macro stabilization. Maybe that question should be added in a future poll. I doubt, however, that the answer would make it onto this list of widely agreed upon propositions. (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_gregmankiw.blogspot(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/2009/02/news-flash-economists-agree.html"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_gregmankiw.blogspot(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/2009/02/new...ists-agree.html[/url]
  14. Evolutionist Convert (revert) To Islam?

    You could just say that God works through evolution, as many religious biologists say...
  15. A Hijabi U.s Military Commander?

    (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_cascadianpatriot.deviantart(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/art/Hijabi-U-S-Air-Force-General-120274026"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_cascadianpatriot.deviantart(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/art...neral-120274026[/url] Discuss.
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