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  1. If this is in the wrong place, my apologies. Please move it to the right forum. :) Welcome to The Future Of America, a political game where you can decide the future course of U.S politics. This game is based upon a similar game by Alternatehistory.com forum user history nerd ( you can find one of the first threads for that game (called Screw Primaries) on that forum here: http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=326626 ). From that game: In our timeline party conventions became increasingly irreverent being slowly replaced by the more democratic process of Primaries. But what if they didn't? What if American Politics continued to be run on the old model with ballot after ballot and back room deals? In our timeline 1972 was the first election where Primaries had completely replaced the Convention as the method of choosing candidates. Not so in this universe! And me again: Basically, you and anyone else who wants to play will be voting on candidates for each party's presidential ticket at their respective national conventions (there are no primaries, hence the name of the game that inspired this) and I will run a simulated election and also simulate each term in office. So, basically we're running the national conventions for the two major parties? Yes. How does it work? You will vote on candidates for the presidential for both parties over a number of ballots and candidates are eliminated until one candidate has 50% plus one of the votes. What happens after that? You will do the same thing for the vice presidential nomination for both parties, and then I will simulate an election and the term of the winner. After that, we’ll do the same thing for the next presidential election, and so on until 2016ish. Can I write in candidates? Yes, you can. They must either be plausible candidates who were actually eligible politicians in real life or real life or fictional people added to the game by you or other players (see below). How can I add candidates? You will need to get points. How can I get some points? First, you need to make something from an in-universe perspective. This can be an commentary on the elections, a political ad, a Wikipedia infobox, etc. It just needs to have some effort put into it. Examples from that other game: I will then look over your submission and decide whether to approve it or not. If I do, you will get a point. So, how do I use points to add characters? You need to post that you are using a point to add someone to the game. This can be a real-life person (make sure to include a link to a Wikipedia page or something so I can vet the character) or a fictional character. If you are doing a fictional character, YOU CAN NOT MAKE ONE UP ON THE SPOT. You can choose a character used in USG (make sure to include a link or brief bio) or a fictional character from some other work of fiction (make sure to include a link and short description, and make the character realistic). Make sure to also include the office you want them to run for (House, Governor, Senate, etc.) You can NOT simply add someone onto the convention ballot right away, through. Let me guess, they need experience? Yes, that’s right! Let’s say its 1976 and you want to run someone in 1992 (let’s say Hank Hill). You make a wiki infobox to get a point, and then you spend that point to add Hank to the game as a House rep. (If you ask for a Senate seat or Governor for an inexperienced real life person or a fictional character, it may not happen because of their experience, so it might be better to get them into a House seat, state legislature, the Cabinet, or a state executive position (like Attorney General or Insurance Commissioner of a state)). Once 1992 nears, you can get and spend another point on Hank to run for president (you may not need to do so if he or she gets high-profile enough- check the news in various posts. If they are high-profile enough, they will run for President on their own and you won’t need to spend a point). Or you can choose to spend a point, say, in 1984 or 1988, to get Hank into a higher office, like the Senate or a governorship or the Cabinet to make him more experienced and therefore much better at running for the presidency (candidates who are not ready, even if chosen by the convention, will probably be crushed in the general election). Can you repeat all that again in a shorter version? Sure. Basically: Decide who you want to add to the game. Get a point by making something per the rules above. Spend a point to add that person or character to the game in some position. Optional: Spend another point to get that person elected to a higher office in the future to make them more electable. Spend another point to make them run for president (you may not need to do this- they may run for president on their own, especially if they are high-profile enough). What about people who historically run for or were likely to run for President? Do we have to spend points to add them too? No, historical candidates will probably be on the ballot anyway, so you might not have to worry about it. It just depends on how history goes and how the parties evolve. Can I spend points to making events happen (or not happen) or to give a career boost to people? Yes, you can! You can’t spend points to make candidates die before their OTL death or make bad things happen to them, through. I also will hold final approval on anything you want to do with points, so if you want to do something, just post and ask if its possible! And if I have any more questions? Just post in the thread and ask!
  2. The Future Of America: A Political Game!

    Actually, the game is popular on other forums: http://usgovsim.net/USG/viewtopic.php?f=194&t=30495 Lots of replies here and also below: http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=328749 http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=343844 And alternate history is a thing that many people find interesting and fun. It's not simply "woulda, shoulda, coulda", but a useful way to analyze real life history by considering what could have happened and comparing the results to what actually happened.
  3. The Future Of America: A Political Game!

    :huh: :huh: :huh: ??? I don't get what you're talking about??? This is just a fun game I thought some people on here might enjoy.
  4. The Future Of America: A Political Game!

    1976 Background (mostly taken from the game is this based upon, with some edits to fit my scenario: It wasn't long after Nixon's victory that rumors began to surface that he may have pulled some dirty tricks. It wasn't long before that in 1973 had revealed that Nixon had cronies infiltrate the DNC, steal election plans from hotel rooms and employ blackmail to sabotage the Democrats. After Sprio Agnew's resignation, Nixon appointed Nelson Rockefeller of New York as Vice-President (instead of Gerald Ford as in RL). In late 1973 Nixon would be forced to resign from the presidency leaving the liberal Rockefeller in charge. Rockefeller s term would be rocky however as he proved incapable of working with the conservatives within his own party. His failure to pardon Nixon and selection of moderate VP Ford would prove controversial. Democrats also refused to pass Rockefeller's agenda out of anger at his association with Nixon. Due to his families famous background and unimaginable wealth rumors would fly on both sides of the isle that he somehow "bought the Presidency" or "Set Nixon up". Of note, Ronald Reagan is running a conservative insurgent campaign in the GOP against Rockefeller. To vote: Choose ONE candidate that you are voting for from each party (so, vote for ONE Democrat and ONE Republican) and post your vote. RPing as delegates is highly encouraged, and may get your points or other rewards. You can also make deals with other delegates and candidates will take those into account, but they may or may not be accepted by the candidates themselves or may be altered. 1976 Democratic National Convention, 1st ballot Jimmy Carter Morris Udall Birch Bayh Frank Church Fred Harris Henry M. Jackson George Wallace Terry Sanford George McGovern Write-In (post name, or it won't count) 1976 Republican National Convention, 1st ballot Nelson Rockefeller Ronald Reagan Howard Baker Edward Brooke Dan Evans Barry Goldwater Harold E. Stassen Jesse Helms Write-In (post name, or it won't count) Example vote (so you can see how to vote on each ballot): Democrats: Henry M. Jackson Republicans: Dan Evans
  5. Where Economists Agree

    Saturday, February 14, 2009 News Flash: Economists Agree The recent debate over the stimulus bill has lead some observers to think that economists are hopelessly divided on issues of public policy. That is true regarding business cycle theory and, specifically, the virtues or defects of Keynesian economics. But it is not true more broadly. (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetthomsonedu(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/economics/mankiw/index.html"]My favorite textbook[/url] covers business cycle theory toward the end of the book (the last four chapters) precisely because that theory is controversial. I believe it is better to introduce students to economics with topics about which there is more of a professional consensus. In chapter two of the book, I include a table of propositions to which most economists subscribe, based on various polls of the profession. Here is the list, together with the percentage of economists who agree: A ceiling on rents reduces the quantity and quality of housing available. (93%) Tariffs and import quotas usually reduce general economic welfare. (93%) Flexible and floating exchange rates offer an effective international monetary arrangement. (90%) Fiscal policy (e.g., tax cut and/or government expenditure increase) has a significant stimulative impact on a less than fully employed economy. (90%) The United States should not restrict employers from outsourcing work to foreign countries. (90%) The United States should eliminate agricultural subsidies. (85%) Local and state governments should eliminate subsidies to professional sports franchises. (85%) If the federal budget is to be balanced, it should be done over the business cycle rather than yearly. (85%) The gap between Social Security funds and expenditures will become unsustainably large within the next fifty years if current policies remain unchanged. (85%) Cash payments increase the welfare of recipients to a greater degree than do transfers-in-kind of equal cash value. (84%) A large federal budget deficit has an adverse effect on the economy. (83%) A minimum wage increases unemployment among young and unskilled workers. (79%) The government should restructure the welfare system along the lines of a “negative income tax.†(79%) Effluent taxes and marketable pollution permits represent a better approach to pollution control than imposition of pollution ceilings. (78%) If we could get the American public to endorse all these propositions, I am sure their leaders would quickly follow, and public policy would be much improved. That is why economics education is so important. Note that the proposition about fiscal policy (#4) does not distinguish between taxes and spending as the best tool for purposes of macro stabilization. Maybe that question should be added in a future poll. I doubt, however, that the answer would make it onto this list of widely agreed upon propositions. (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_gregmankiw.blogspot(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/2009/02/news-flash-economists-agree.html"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_gregmankiw.blogspot(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/2009/02/new...ists-agree.html[/url]
  6. Where Economists Agree

    There's not enough gold in the world today to handle our modern economy. And batering is just really hard and I don't want to lug around tons of stuff just to buy ice cream. Besides, paper money enables credit, which is good for consumers (provided they don't use too much of it).
  7. A Hijabi U.s Military Commander?

    (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_cascadianpatriot.deviantart(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/art/Hijabi-U-S-Air-Force-General-120274026"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_cascadianpatriot.deviantart(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/art...neral-120274026[/url] Discuss.
  8. Where Economists Agree

    Note it says untrained, young workers. Most Western countries are far better then the U.S at training their workers.
  9. Where Economists Agree

    Actually, real life data has proven most of the things in the list true.
  10. A Hijabi U.s Military Commander?

    Islam is supposed to be a religion that stretches across boundaries, and Muslims fight each other all the time. If you live in a country where most of the people aren't Muslims, and that country has provided you with everything you need, and if it comes under attack, I say you should go defend that country.
  11. Where Economists Agree

    I think this was culled from worldwide polls...
  12. A Hijabi U.s Military Commander?

    War is between countries and peoples, not between religions. It's geopolitics, not a new Crusade.
  13. Where Economists Agree

    People already know about the first one, but they note that free trade and globalization has brought more people into the middle and upper classes then at any other time in history- you just need to make sure the poor aren't being screwed over by it. As for the second one, most economists agree with money creation as a valid tool of monetary policy, and it's actually quite useful.
  14. A Hijabi U.s Military Commander?

    Probably- it's just a description I wrote up really quickly, and there's a few errors- can you spot them?
  15. Evolutionist Convert (revert) To Islam?

    You could just say that God works through evolution, as many religious biologists say...
  16. Don't Take What You Haven't Got: A Short Story December 1979 Kabul, Afghanistan A twelve-year old girl who looks strangely European for an Afghan runs up to her returning mother at the airport and gives her a big hug. “Where have you been, Mommy? We were wondering why you’re so late.†“Oh, my business in America just took a few days longer than I expected.†The mother then picks up little Nelofer, then begins singing to her while following her husband to the luggage pick-up area. Unknown even to her husband, she is singing in English, with a British accent… === Moscow, Soviet Union Meanwhile, Leonid Brezhnev was meeting with some of his intelligence officials, who had strange news from America to report. “Sir, it’s true.†“President Carter suddenly decides to apologize for all actions taken by the United States in Iran and agrees to give them economic aid?! What is he, crazy or something!†“Comrade General Secretary, we simply don’t know. What we do know is that the U.S has also been acting very nicely toward Britain and Afghanistan, also. In the latter case, however, they seem to want to give aid to the Afghan people directly while condemning our fellow Communists there.†“Well, we won’t let that happen, will we?†“No sir, we definitely won’t.†=== Two weeks earlier, somewhere in the Midwestern United States inside an abandoned house Jamila stood back and inspected her work. The transmitter was finally ready. The technical part was hard, having to figure out how to use antiquated (to her) technology to build it. But the U.S, unlike Afghanistan, had plenty of old scrap electronics that could be adapted to serve her purposes. She flipped a few switches and was watching the machine transmit her message when Jamila heard the door open. It was a local police officer. "This is the police. Ma'm, you're not supposed to be in here. I'm afraid you will have to step back from..." The officer fell down, being stunned... === Back in Afghanistan, after the airport scene "Daddy, why don't we see Mommy's family ever?" He sighed. Nelofer was bound to ask this question sooner or later, and he still didn't know the answer. "The truth is, I don't know your mother's family. She just showed up in my sight in the 1960s. She says she's from a village out there somewhere, but..." He sighed, again. == The White House, Washington D.C, United States of America White House Press Secretary Joseph "Jody" Lester Powell was facing a tough time from the assembled reporters, who were asking about why Carter has decided to recognize the new Islamic government of Iran and agree to meet their list to demands in order to free the American hostages in the U.S embassy in Tehran. "Mr. Powell, I thought we didn't negotiate with terrorists." "These... students are not terrorists. They are simply disaffected by the United States' former support of the oppressive Shah, and that is why the President has decided to apologize for our misconduct and try and help to relieve this. Besides, I can name dozens of examples of the Shah's oppressive actions." "But why haven't the students, as well as the regime, simply chosen to work with the U.S and show that they are committed to peace and prosperity?" Jody sighed. This was going to be a long day... == Kabul, Afghanistan Everyone was hovering around the radio, as Radio Afghanistan played one nationalist song after another. Finally, there was a news update. The Saur Revolution had been purged of reactionary elements! Soviet troops had stormed the Presidental Palace and executed Prime Minister Hafizullah Amin and his supporters, who were said to be pro-American CIA agents! Of course, everyone with half a brain knew better then to trust the radio station. Habibullah, in particular, was worried that he might accidently open his mouth against the regime someday for messing with his hospital's work, as they had done many times in the past. But his wife Jamila didn't seem worried at all, althrough she knew about this side of him. In fact, she was smiling. == Two weeks earlier, in the abandoned house in the U.S Jamila smiled. Her work here was done; the message had been transmitted. "Now, it's time to get out of here before anyone notices the missing policeman and my siphoning of that grain mill's power supply. But first, time to set the self-destruct switch" Her thought went unfinished as a sneaking policeman hit her on the head with his gun, also stopping her from setting the self-destruct switch of the transmitter... Notes: Operation Storm-333 ( (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_en.wikipedia(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/wiki/Operation_Storm-333"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_en.wikipedia(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/wiki/Operation_Storm-333[/url] ) took place earlier in this timeline, since Brezhnev was spooked by the United States strangely deciding to provide aid to Afghanistan and Iran (yes, this is Iran after the Islamic Revolution). Comments? Part Two is coming sometime soon, hopefully.
  17. Don't Take What You Haven't Got: A Short Story

    London, England, United Kingdom 10 Downing Street Two weeks earlier Margaret Thatcher picked up the phone. "I see...the Americans know about our secret, now. Well, it's best that we prepare for the plan... yes, that one. She smiled. Pym would be soon, too... FBI Building in Washington D.C Two hours after Thatcher picks up the phone "Take a look at this, Tom...how did she disable those security cameras and sensors? It's like she could hack into them somehow, but she has no computer with her...besides, you can't carry a computer with you. Not with today's technology, however." "So, you think she's a time traveller?" "Maybe...but from Afghanistan?" "I don't know...has the President and Cabinet finished meeting with her and the British ambassador, yet?" Moscow, Soviet Union December 1979 "Sir, something is happening in Earth orbit!" Brezhnev immediately turned to the Soviet Air Force officier, who proceeded to tell him about strange, faint radar contacts in Earth orbit- appearantly there were too many of them to be simply a problem with the radar systems...
  18. Islamic Conquest Game?!

    (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetspicetrade(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/index.html"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetspicetrade(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/index.html[/url] You can start out as a simple port worker and work your way up to conquering all of Europe... :sl: :sl: :no:
  19. ACLU to sue Twin Cities charter school that caters to Muslims By Randy Furst and Sarah Lemagie January 21, 2009 - 10:02 PM The American Civil Liberties Union of Minnesota filed suit Wednesday against a publicly funded charter school alleging that it is promoting the Muslim religion and is leasing school space from a religious organization without following state law. The suit was filed in U.S. District Court in Minneapolis against Tarek ibn Ziyad Academy, known as TIZA, and the Minnesota Department of Education, which the ACLU says is at fault for failing to uncover and stop the alleged transgressions. The suit names the department and Alice Seagren, the state education commissioner, as co-defendants. The department investigated the Twin Cities school last year, and the school said it had taken corrective actions in response to concerns about the practicing of religion on campus. TIZA said in a written statement on Wednesday that the school is nonsectarian and in compliance with federal and state regulations. But the ACLU claims the school is using federal and state money to promote religion in violation of the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. “TIZA has received millions of dollars of taxpayer money to support what is, in essence, a private religious school,†said Charles Samuelson, state ACLU executive director. The suit caught the school by surprise, said spokesman Darin Broton. “We actually invited the ACLU in the spring of 2008 to visit TIZA, and they chose to decline,†he said. Samuelson said the ACLU arranged a visit to the school, but the school had to cancel, and the ACLU never heard back from the school when it tried to reschedule. Samuelson said the suit was filed after a lengthy ACLU investigation. The state Department of Education said in a statement Wednesday that it will continue to monitor the school and is drafting legislation in response to concerns raised about TIZA in the past year. The school, which has one campus in Inver Grove Heights and a smaller site in Blaine, has about 430 K-8 students , most of them Muslim. Founded in 2003 , it receives state per-pupil funding that the state education department expects to total $4.7 million for the current school year. Samuelson said the school has used some government aid money to pay rent to holding companies, which then funneled it to the Muslim American Society of Minnesota and Minnesota Education Trust, a group the ACLU says is a non-profit that also promotes Islam. The school and the society were incorporated on the same day by the same person, which Samuelson said creates a conflict of interest. “They created legal fictions, but it’s the same organization,†Samuelson said. Minnesota law requires that charter schools be non-sectarian in their programs and policies. It allows charter schools to lease from religious organizations, but only if other suitable space is not available, the space rented was built as a school, and the state approves of the lease. Samuelson said the school was violating that law because the Blaine campus wasn’t built as a school, because TIZA made no apparent attempt to rent from a non-profit organization or commercial entity, and because there was apparently no review of the lease by either the state Department of Education or the state Department of Administration. The Blaine campus is a former medical building, Broton said. The suit also alleges that there are prayers on the walls of the school entry and that teachers have participated in student prayer activities. Samuelson said the school has used its website to seek volunteers to lead prayers, and that it requires students and staff to dress in attire that conform to Islamic religion. He also said the school has issued a handbook instructing staff to not discuss what goes on at the school. “You cannot have a broad secrecy oath†in a school funded with public dollars, Samuelson said. The ACLU is not targeting Muslims but defending the U.S. Constitution, whose First Amendment states in part, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,†Samuelson said. Federal guidelines allow students to pray and organize prayer groups in public schools, but teachers and other school employees may not compel students to pray or actively participate in student prayer while acting in their official roles. The ACLU investigation was prompted by a column about the school’s practices by Katherine Kersten, a former columnist for the Star Tribune, Samuelson said. The column by the conservative writer was recently discontinued. In May, the Minnesota Department of Education ordered the school to change the way it handled student prayer and busing. The school was allowing students and teachers to attend 30-minute Friday prayers on school grounds. The state also took issue with the fact that TIZA does not provide busing immediately after classes. Instead, the school waits until the end of after-school activities, including a religious studies course run by the Muslim American Society that more than half the students took last year. In response to the state’s concerns, TIZA said in August that it would shorten the Friday prayers and have teachers who wanted to pray go to a separate room, but it said some staff members would still join the students to ensure their safety. The school said an “overwhelming majority†of parents liked the school’s later bus schedule, but said it would reimburse families who wanted to arrange earlier transportation. State education officials said at the time that the changes might satisfy the law. They visited the school again in December, Broton said. But the ACLU says the changes, if they were made, are not enough to bring the school into compliance with constitutional requirements. Samuelson said he was not asking that the school go out of business. “They may choose to become an Islamic school. That would be fine and we would defend their right to do it,†but they would have to do so without public funding, he said. “Or they could choose to follow state law and change some of their procedures. That would be fine as well.†The suit comes as state legislators and charter school advocates consider changes to state law regulating the schools. The Minnesota Association of Charter Schools is proposing changes that relate to school sponsors, governance and conflicts of interest, among others, said Eugene Piccolo, the group’s executive director. But the discussion began well before TIZA came under fire last spring and did not result from that controversy, he said. Separation of church and state is important, but it’s “unfortunate†that the ACLU is suing a school with Muslim students when other charter schools may have inappropriate ties to Christian groups, said state Rep. Mindy Greiling, DFL-Roseville, who chairs the House K-12 education finance committee. “I hate to see just Muslims get picked on if there are others with the same arrangements,†she said. Samuelson said that over the years the Minnesota ACLU has sued a number of public school districts for promoting various Christian sects. In addition, it has sued cities around the state for violating the separation of church and state clause of the First Amendment, most recently, the city of Duluth for putting a Ten Commandments monument on the city hall lawn. Sen. Kathy Saltzman, DFL-Woodbury and chair of the Senate charter school working group, said Wednesday it would be “very appropriate†for the Legislature to develop a better understanding of how charter schools are creating non-profit organizations or building corporations and using lease aid from the state to own their buildings. “In the case of TIZA,†she said, “given the recent allegations of money flowing to a religious organization, it would be worth our while to understand the arrangements that are being used by this particular organization. We have to absolutely assure the public that there is transparency in how taxpayer dollars are being used for lease aid.†School officials said they received death and arson threats, as well as harassing anti-Muslim messages, after public scrutiny intensified last spring. Police increased patrols in response, and the school put in a security buzzer at the door. The lawsuit was prepared by Peter Lancaster and Megan McKenzie, attorneys from the Dorsey and Whitney law firm, according to the ACLU. They did the work on a pro bono basis on behalf of the ACLU, Samuelson said. (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetstartribune(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/local/north/38034459.html?elr=KArksDyycyUtyycyUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetstartribune(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/local/north/380...iD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU[/url]
  20. Do you mean the school for promoting religion or the ACLU for suing them? I would have to agree with the ACLU that the school (if the evidence is true) violated the separation of church and state and that the state government failed to act when they got wind of this.
  21. Thought Exercise

    Extremely powerful aliens give you 10 First Worldization Bombs, which change the target country instantly into First World liberal democracy with human rights for all (defined as full compliance by society in general with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights), with eco-friendly First World-level infrastructure and economy and a combination of their and Western culture. You can not use the bombs on any country which are on the IMF advanced economy list. They are: • Australia • Germany • Luxembourg • Slovenia • Austria • Greece • Malta • South Korea • Belgium • Hong Kong • Netherlands • Spain • Canada • Iceland • New Zealand • Sweden • Cyprus • Ireland • Norway • Switzerland • Denmark • israel • Portugal • Taiwan • Finland • Italy • San Marino • United Kingdom • France • Japan • Singapore • United States The bombs simply appear above their target country and explode right away, with no ill effects, just by you thinking of the target seriously. What do you do? BTW, if you use the bomb on North Korea, it will instantly merge with South Korea and be like South Korea.
  22. Don't Take What You Haven't Got: A Short Story

    And yes, this is by me.
  23. Don't Take What You Haven't Got: A Short Story

    Two weeks earlier Washington D.C Jamila woke up in a plain white room bare of anything but the plain brown wooden chair she has setting on, plus some cuffing her feet to the floor. She was dressed in a light blue hopsital gown. A man came in through the door and introduced himself. "My name is John. I'm a FBI agent, and I would like to know what you're doing in America with all that fancy equipment. She smilied. "Of course..." To the man's surprise and horror, Jamila somehow broke free of the restraints... through pure force?! "Looks like my equipment hasn't gotten that rusty." She proceeded to knock the man unconscious and got into a running start to break through the one-way window. The Afghan woman then broke through without anything but a few minor cuts and landed on a woman watching through the window. She then knocked the guards and other agents out and proceeded to find an escape route... Same building, different room, a little bit later President Jimmy Carter was waiting to be briefed by a FBI agent on something when the alarms sounded. "Don't worry, Mr. President. It's just probably some agent forgetting to close the door or something and a prisoner briefly escaping." He waited, reassured by the Secret Agent's tone. But then, the door flew open. "You're not..." Jamila had knocked out the two Secret Service agents and taken the President hostage in a bink of an eye. "Mr. President, we have a lot to talk about..."
  24. So I call my cell phone company and talk to this guy with a British accent to clear up a problem. I don't really notice it until the end, when he says, "Thank you for calling [company name]. And remember, you can always get another line for just 9 pounds." :sl: