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  1. Assalamualaikum rahamatuallahi Wabarakathahu
    Jews, they were always treated very badly by Christians throughout the history. so called ,The killers of their Jesus were always considered as evil .they were made to pay heavy taxes (much higher than jizya) .they were not allowed to practice their religion and they were killed and burned .Christians successfully reduced the population of Jews to a great  extent .how can they ever forgive them .after all they are the killers of their so called god .

    But suddenly in 19th century, things began to change .Christians divided into two categories .those who want to kill them and those who want to save them at any cost . Both the division were as the result of biblical quotes .the first group which wanted to kill them was on the quote
    Zechariah 13 .8
    In the whole land, says the Lord,
    two thirds shall be cut off and perish,
    and one third shall be left alive.

    The other one was working on the quote
    Zechariah 13.9
    And I will put this third into the fire,
    and refine them as one refines silver,
    and test them as gold is tested.
    They will call on my name,
    and I will answer them.
    I will say, ‘They are my people’;
    and they will say, ‘The Lord is my God.’”

    The first one belongs to Hitler and his pope and the other one is Zionist.
    Both the groups worked with all due perfection to make these quotes as a reality .Hitler and his pope killed two thirds of Jewish population as well as Jews were made to settle in Israel .this was the fitting theological replay for Darwinism .is that was the prophecy which happened or the prophecy which was made to happen .it is almost 80 years ,if this was a prophecy then at least they might have able to convert Jews.there is no sign of their Jesus yet !but they killed lot of innocent people in the name of Jesus.

    our modern day Zionist ,john hagee ,in his words explains better


    Then God sent a hunter. A hunter is someone with a gun and he forces you. Hitler was a hunter. And the Bible says – Jeremiah writing ? ‘They shall hunt them from every mountain and from every hill and from the holes of the rocks,’ meaning there’s no place to hide. And that might be offensive to some people but don’t let your heart be offended. I didn’t write it, Jeremiah wrote it. It was the truth and it is the truth. How did it happen? Because God allowed it to happen. Why did it happen? Because God said my top priority for the Jewish people is to get them to come back to the land of Israel.”



    Same hagee declared ,the same god send bush to kill Muslims in Iraq and bush claimed that he was fulfilling the prophecy of the bible by eliminating Saddam .during invasion of Iraq ,bush trying to convinced the president of France ,Jacques Chirac  ,claimed  that he was on his way to stop the activities of Gog and  mogog in middle east .yet another biblical prophecy fulfilled by a Christian .by killing Saddam and the innocent people in iraq  they claim second coming of  their Jesus  and killing is the service of Christians to god .Yet no sign of Jesus

    The future of this ideology is far more dangerous than what they did in the past .they are planing about wipe out about two thirds  of world population .the name which they gave it is a holy war called Armageddon .the stage is set in Syria .as per their claims Muslims are Gog and mogog


    A civil war is made into a War …… very soon it will be  Armageddon .again ,Christians  wants to wipe out Iran and Russia from the globe in order to welcome their Jesus .what type of god is that  who demands innocent blood to flow like a rivers in order to appear .what type of scripture is that which teaches its followers to commit holocaust .is it not worth throwing into bin

    I will not blame john hagee or bush ,it is their bible which is to be blamed .for example ,take for instance ex president of US gorge bush .he was groomed in a biblical environment .one of his ancestors, George Bush (biblical scholar),1796 – 1859 was a Zionist .he was also the author of The Life of Mohammed , the first American written biography of the religious leader.he made negative assessment and showed him as hoaxer. from this background , ex president was expected to be a Zionist as well as Muslim hater .people like john hagee might not cause much damage but people like bush made earth as blood pond .religion is very dangerous particularly biblical .
    on the other hand ,quran does not mention about big war or antichrist .quran give solutions to the coexistence of all religions and they call it a hatred manual .
    I don’t know how many  innocent people will they  kill in order to welcome their Jesus

  2. 5 hours ago, Absolute truth said:

    Assalam alaikum

    When Allah ordered him, he should simply obey, Not - out of arrogance- refuse to obey. When Allah orders you - human- to pray , you have 2 options

    1- Pray

    2- Ignore the command and claim: God misguided me.

    In the second case, you don't know the qadar for you, but you take it as an excuse to disobey(Allah misguided you, true, but this is because of your arrogance.)

    N.B: (I didn't mean you )

    Greeen: Yes , i agree with you .it is the qadar which ALLAH subahnavatala ordains and execute

    Blue : there is no exception among the humans .one time or other ,we disobey the command of ALLAH subhanavatala and hope for his mercy

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  3. 20 hours ago, Absolute truth said:

    Wa alaikum assalam dear brother

    Allah misguides the evil doers and those who reject the guidance brought to them by letting them follow the path they choose. Notice, also, that these are only the words of Satan who is just seeking excuses for his transgression by slandering that Almighty Allah misled him. Only the Satanic souls turn to these words due to the evident match!

    One is free to obey Allah or not, he doesn't know the divine decree/qadar set for him. Yet, he knows Allah orders.

    I have couple of question for you brother .you said it was the excuse given by satan .however , ALLAH subhanvatala made him to witness his new creation then he proved his new creation is better than them .ALLAH subhanvatala didn't mention about the excuse but on the other hand he gives the details about the formation of human race on the earth .

    Verse 2.30

    And [mention, O Muhammad], when your Lord said to the angels, "Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority." They said, "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood, while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?" Allah said, "Indeed, I know that which you do not know."

    Note that the angels suggested ALLAH subhanavatala about the blood shed on earth(referring that human race was not the first abode for the earth ) ,finally ALLAH subhanavatala says "Indeed, I know that which you do not know."

    After this verse

    Verse 2.31

    And He taught Adam the names - all of them. Then He showed them to the angels and said, "Inform Me of the names of these, if you are truthful."

    Verse 2.32

    They said, "Exalted are You; we have no knowledge except what You have taught us. Indeed, it is You who is the Knowing, the Wise."

    Verse 2.33

    He said, "O Adam, inform them of their names." And when he had informed them of their names, He said, "Did I not tell you that I know the unseen [aspects] of the heavens and the earth? And I know what you reveal and what you have concealed."


    Now the question is if the satan was obedient and had made the sujud to Adam Aliasalam then we might not be on the earth("Indeed, I know that which you do not know.") .So the basic episode for our existence on the earth  is in the

    verse 2.34

    And [mention] when We said to the angels, "Prostrate before Adam"; so they prostrated, except for Iblees. He refused and was arrogant and became of the disbelievers.


    Do you have any other reasoning other than this with verses ,Brother

  4. Assalamualaikum Rahamataullahi Wabarakathahu

    In 1933 ,Choudhry Rahmat Ali, coined the name PAKISTAN referring the five northern units of India viz : Punjab, North-West Frontier Province (Afghan Province), Kashmir, Sind and Baluchistan .
    the meaning of Pakistan is PAK – means pure and istan – means place of or in short Pakistan means pure place .in other words a place of people of pure intentions .on the other hand NAPAK means impure
    but …
    historically ,Pakistan has acted quite opposite to its core meaning .its first impure intention were apparent on the very year it born .

    1947 Kashmir was ruled by a Hindu maharaja Maharaja Hari Singh.he decided to remain independent but Pakistan persuaded maharaja to join with them which was bitterly failed .this failure gave the start for NAPAK politics of Pakistan .the agents of Muslim league worked in pooch to encourage  the armed revolt .this was the first NAPAK policy towards its neighbors  .even after the victory and formation of Azad Kashmir ,Pakistan did not ceded with it NAPAK intentions .thus from that day to this day ,Pakistan made Kashmir as a grave yard for millions of Muslims .
    1971,Bangladesh ,whatever be the reason but the reality was the mass murder of humanity by Pakistani army .as per a fatwa of some mulla, Bangladeshi women were considered as public property and thus they were raped .the bottom line reason was land .yet another NAPAK intentions of Pakistan revealed .
    It was the fear of president Zia ul haq that soviet union will invade Pakistan gave rise to Taliban .with help of US, Pakistan trained about 90000 afganis including mulla Omar .they successfully made a uncover training of Taliban and they even successfully defeated soviet union .Pakistan changed its side  after September 11 attacks .the main reason being that US is much more powerful than Taliban .Yet another NAPAK intentions of so called Pakistan .
    On the other hand , right from 1947 to this day , India was working for the well being of the people of Kashmir .in 1971,it was India which liberated Bangladesh and it is playing a pivotal role in the development of Afghanistan.

    in 1947,Jinnah thought by secretly  training Muslims of Kashmir they will conquer Kashmir .this was the first exploitation of innocent people in the name of religion by pakistan.The same things was carried on by Zia ul haq in the case of Afghanistan .Now this being carried successfully by nawaz sheriff .

    ever you felt you were considered as terrorist because you carry a Muslim name .I will never rent my house to a unknown north Indian Muslim family because i fear they might be terrorists trained in Pakistan .No Hindu/non-Muslims will ever rent his home to a Muslim family in Chennai because they fear they might be terrorist trained in  Pakistan .who gave this tag of “terrorist” to Muslims all over the world .was it India or any other non-Muslim country in the world .Did India trained Muslims to became terrorists .did India exploited the illiteracy ,poverty of Muslims and used them to kill innocent people around the world in order to survive itself .who is doing this .the answers is  Pakistan .it is spoiling Muslims in the name of Islam .even today some innocent Muslims in Pakistan is being trained to kill innocent people around the world .do you call this as survival .it is some thing like drilling own eye with a needle  .

    It was dream land for the people  like Sir syed ahamed khan ,ghulam ahmed pervez ,abdul kalam azad who thought they will educate Muslims and make them survive as good human .on contrary ,Pakistan has became a land for training terrorist .
    here is the link

    For its survival why Pakistan is defaming Islam .what right do they have to give me a terrorist  tag .on the other hand they could have excelled in education ,industry and infrastructure and got ride of poverty .

    I am happy i was able to make few Pakistanis angry with core message of the article .Next time when they boast of being proud Pakistani ,they will think twice .
    looking back at the history ,it is surprising to see a country with Muslim majority ,acting in an unislamic way and on the other hand a non Muslim country like India behaving in a Islamic way
    Now the reader should decide it should be PAKistan or NAPAKistan

  5. Assalamualikum Brother AT

    no doubt it was absolutely a great article and those were a great people .with limited access to corpus they could give their utmost opinion .i would prefer your view point .this is a refuting non-muslim section .

    The gist of my article was everything was/is from ALLAH subahnavatala .there was one more allegation with this so called contradiction  is whether iblees was a angle or not .i choose not to argue about that because it is immaterial

  6. Assalamualaikum Rahamatullahi Wabrakathahu

    According to the Christian missionaries:

    About the angels: For NONE are arrogant (before their Lord). They ALL fear their Lord, high above them, and they do ALL they are commanded. — Sura 16:49-50

    And behold, we said to the ANGELS: “Bow down to Adam”. And THEY bowed down, EXCEPT Iblis. He refused and was haughty. — Sura 2:34

    The verse 2.34
    And [mention] when We said to the angels, “Prostrate before Adam”; so they prostrated, except for Iblees. He refused and was arrogant and became of the disbelievers.

    Is a verse addressing about the creation of humanity and the basic episode for the existence of humans on earth

    The chosen one was iblees as mention in the verses
    Verse 7.16
    [Satan] said, “Because You have put me in error, I will surely sit in wait for them on Your straight path.


    Verse 15.39
    [Iblees] said, “My Lord, because You have put me in error, I will surely make [disobedience] attractive to them on earth, and I will mislead them all

    So by the will of ALLAH subhanavatala the obedience of iblees is to disobey the command  given to him by  ALLAH subahnavatala .By the will of ALLAH subahnavatala iblees became disobedient .

    Now ,lets take the verses

    Verse 16.48
    Have they not considered what things Allah has created? Their shadows incline to the right and to the left, prostrating to Allah, while they are humble.

    Verse 16.49
    And to Allah prostrates whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth of creatures, and the angels [as well], and they are not arrogant.

    Verse 16.50
    They fear their Lord above them, and they do what they are commanded.

    As per these verses , Sun must burn with immense  heat ,moon must reflect light ,earth must be a habitable .if we take creatures on earth ,all creatures does their  basic characteristics for which they were  designed .like wise , the basic characteristic of iblees is to deviate  people from the right path which he was/is obediently doing as on today .
    So where is the contradiction here . iblees was obedient in verse 2.34 and he is obedient in verses 16.48-50 as well
    can any one prove iblees has stopped deviating people.he is performing his job with utmost perfection
    the most practical example for the obedience of iblees are the Christian missionaries who are propagating the false and illogical  lies about Quran   .can they deny it.

  7. Assalamualaikum Rahamatullahi Wabarakathu

    A believer , as per quran verse 285 of surah baqra is
    The Messenger has believed in what was revealed to him from his Lord, and [so have] the believers. All of them have believed in Allah and His angels and His books and His messengers, [saying], “We make no distinction between any of His messengers.” And they say, “We hear and we obey. [We seek] Your forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the [final] destination.”

    As the last part of the ayah says he believes in Quran and he says samiAAna waataAAna ,We hear and we obey

    Now our famous hadith

    It was narrated from Mu’aawiyah ibn Abi Sufyaan (may Allaah be pleased with him) that he said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stood among us and said: “Those who came before you of the people of the Book split into seventy-two sects, and this ummah will split into seventy-three: seventy-two in Hell and one in Paradise, and that is the jamaa’ah (main body of Muslims).”

    And pl read the fatwa

    The fatwa was given based on the hadith and not even a single reference was made to quran.It is evident that the fatwa was aimed to prove that Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah is the only saved group.But I see the above hadith immediately divides ummah into 73 factions, one that is saved and the others going to get doomed.

    Now let me have a look at quranic verses about factions
    Surah: 6   Aya: 159
    Indeed, those who have divided their religion and become sects – you, [O Muhammad], are not [associated] with them in anything. Their affair is only
    to Allah ; then He will inform them about what they used to do.

    A clear and straight forward statement from quran.You don’t even have to derive a analogy (qiyas). Those who form sects they are not from the ummah of Prophet Mohammed slallahualaivasallam.If we say, we are one among 73 and we are the saved group you approve 73 sects and thus divided the religion which disassociate us from prophet Mohammed sallaahuwasallam.This is not my saying .This is what Quran says about the one who divides the ummah.I don’t know what kind of fatwa is this. This is ridiculous, lol they are even taking pride in dividing the religion of ALLAH and even not bothered to pay heed to this above ayah.They are even calling the other groups are the doomed one when Quran has the different story to tell

    Let us see one more ayah from the quran
    Surah: 20   Aya: 94
    [Aaron] said, “O son of my mother, do not seize [me] by my beard or by my head. Indeed, I feared that you would say, ‘You caused division among the Children of Israel, and you did not observe [or await] my word.‘ ”

    Another clear  statement from quran
    If there is one sin which is more heinous than shrik, then it is nothing but one those who form sects.A prophet of ALLAH tolerating idol worship in order to avoid division and this fatwa boast on a hadith and the fatwa of scholars that they are the rightly guided one and they take the pride in dividing the ummah into 73 sets.This is the sunnah of quran.Can there be anything more authentic source than quran.I don’t know why scholars have omitted this ayah .why they cannot give fatwa based on this ayahs .I don’t know  what is stopping them to adhere this ayahs.

    Now go back to original definition of a believer in verse 2.285
    samiAAna waataAAna….are they doing this .

  8. Assalamualaikum Rahamatullahi Wabarakathahu

    Let me start this article the these verses
    Surah: 57   Aya: 25
    We have already sent Our messengers with clear evidences and sent down with them the Scripture and the balance that the people may maintain [their affairs] in justice. And We sent down iron, wherein is great military might and benefits for the people, and so that Allah may make evident those who support Him and His messengers unseen. Indeed, Allah is Powerful and Exalted in Might.

    When a Mars-size object collided with Earth 4.5 billion years ago ,two events happen that changed the galaxy permanently after that.the first one ,was invasion of iron to earth other one was the most important result which made the earth habitable was creation of moon !
    Peter D. Ward and Donald Brownlee, in their book, Rare Earth: Why Complex Life is Uncommon in the Universe, make these following conclusions  


      1. It less likely that any life possible on the earth

        2. The size of the moon when compared to earth is the rarest of rare case (nearly one third of earth size) .

        3. The distance of the moon is just perfect to make earth habitable (about 25000 miles).

        4. the most important is the tilt .the tilt of the earth which is 23.4 degrees.

    As per the
    verse 2.189
    They ask you, [O Muhammad], about the new moons. Say, “They are measurements of time for the people and for Hajj.” And it is not righteousness to enter houses from the back, but righteousness is [in] one who fears Allah. And enter houses from their doors. And fear Allah that you may succeed.


    Moon was made to reckon days .it is/was obvious for our ancestors as moon  gives lunar month but if we think with the modern perspective of science we get few more amazing results .


    first let me ask a question to myself ,what would have happen if our moon was just 15000 miles away from us? .then our earth would have moved faster and we will have more days in a year ..obviously , the earth’s tilt might had been different which would have resulted in different climatic  conditions and there might not be intellectual life possible on earth .actually this was the condition in the beginning of formation of moon


    Secondly,What would have happen if our moon was half its size as we have now? Geologists believe that an Earth day was originally five to six hours long if we have lesser size moon. Assuming life had still arisen, it would have had to contend with more frequent ice ages as well more extreme warm snaps.Large moons stabilize planets. Due to smaller moon earth would have wobbled a lot. in other words, bigger climatic swings and seasonal temperature changes than Earth what we have now.


    So we got moon when iron was send to us and even that moon is at right place and with the most appropriate size .In other words a perfect balance was set between the size and the distance of the moon so that earth will become habitable


    wait a minute! The right balance …….

    I remember few verses form quran
    Verse 55.5
    The sun and the moon  by precise calculation
    Verse 55.6
    And the stars and trees prostrate.
    Verse 55.7
    And the heaven He raised and imposed the balance


    Is Allah subhanavatala is talking about these calculations and balance?

    To the people of 14th century the above  verses would have only meant about sun light and moon light but for us these verses made a world of difference.


    We all know that the Sun rises in the east and sets in the west. However, most us don’t realize that is a generalization. Actually, the Sun only rises due east and sets due west on 2 days of the year — the spring and fall equinoxes! On other days, the Sun rises either north or south of “due east” and sets north or south of “due west.”Each day the rising and setting points change slightly.


    We never bother to notice the movement of Sun because Mr. Sun is not so important for us; however Mr. Sun was a very important person for our ancestors because he made their life bright after a prolonged darkness of night. This was the reason most of ancestors took Mr. Sun as god . they even use to trace and calculate the sun’s path very accurately .interestingly , ibn katir has given a good detail about this


        From Tafsir Ibn Khatir   


    ((He is) the Lord of the two easts and the Lord of the two wests.) meaning the sunrise of summer and winter and the sunset of summer and winter. Allah said in another Ayah,

        (So, I swear by the Lord of all the points of sunrise and sunset in the east and the west.)(70:40), referring to the different places from which the sun rises and then sets on people every day. Allah said in another Ayah,

        (The Lord of the east and the west; none has the right to be worshipped but He. So take Him alone as a trustee.)(73:9), referring to the different places of sunrise and sunset and the benefits that this variation brings to the created, mankind and Jinns,

    Quran mentions about this in various verses


    The verses are 
    verse 70.40
    So I swear by the Lord of [all] risings and settings that indeed We are able

    Verse 73.9
    [He is] the Lord of the East and the West; there is no deity except Him, so take Him as Disposer of [your] affairs.

    Verse 55. 17.
    (He is) the Lord of the two easts (places of sunrise during early summer and early winter) and the Lord of the two wests (places of sunset during early summer and early winter).


    To know little more about this verses let us imagine the earth without moon. No moon means no tilt and thereby we will have one east and one west. No climate changes and their might not be any life possible on earth.

    Even the tilt of earth which is 23.4* is just appropriate to make the earth habitable .life might not have existed on the earth if this tilt was much bigger or smaller.

    So moon is must to make earth habitable .the formation of moon happen when iron came to earth .even it is said that the time and place of  the impact  which planet Theia made was appropriate to form the earth core and the moon .


    Again I am quoting the same verse here


    Verse 57.25. Indeed We have sent Our Messengers with clear proofs, and revealed with them the Scripture and the Balance (justice) that mankind may keep up justice. And We brought forth iron wherein is mighty power (in matters of war), as well as many benefits for mankind, that Allâh may test who it is that will help Him (His religion), and His Messengers in the unseen. Verily, Allâh is All-Strong, All-Mighty


    Who could have made those precise calculations?
    yet atheists say every thing was coincidence and it happen from nothing

    So moon was made exclusively for .this is mentioned in the following ayah
    Verse 14.33
    And He subjected for you the sun and the moon, continuous [in orbit], and subjected for you the night and the day.


    So which of the favors of Allah subhanavatala We can deny

  9. You are correct  parvez . Beards have come and gone over the Millennia , and for different reasons .Alexander had his soldiers trim their beards before battle , lest the enemy drag them down off their horses by the beard . The first razors are recorded in about the 6th century B.C.E. by the Romans . Before that one would plug the hair out - ouch !!  with hinged sea shells or scrub it off with pumice stones . So I agree with you 100 % ,without a gillette  we would face mutilation !  The Egyptians on the other hand shaved but wore false beards to  appear as the Pharoahs. The Romans had razors but they rusted quickly . I guess we were born at the right time in history for shaving eh ?  


    Not only this, we are very graceful when compared to ancient generations.

    They never had KFC or Al-BaIK,so  they had to fetch for their own food and it was daily struggle for them.As per Islamic sources even having a extra garments was a luxury, of course they never had Reid and Taylor or van heusen .I don’t know what shoe or socks they had but in Islamic references they were having socks and shoes yet they never had Bata socks or woodland shoes.

    Particularly in Saudia where even today they are importing basic things like cakes, biscuits, shoes, juices, brushes etc.If you go there, particularly in Mecca, you will not even find sand to cultivate .Mecca is just a rocky city. Thanks to petroleum, otherwise they might also be like their ancestors but can you notice one thing, people who were starving without clothes challenged the mighty Persians and Romans and they were successful!what was the driving force behind them, ecli? Can you imagine ,so called human rubbish conquering the mighty Persians and Romans.

    Or is it that this verse of Quran becoming a reality.


    93.5 And your Lord is going to give you, and you will be satisfied.

  10. wa alaykum as saalam 


    I would just like to make it clear I am definitely not a bro  :D



    I also had a thought that probably lets say 10 years ago, forums like this were more original but now with so many apps and so many other social media that people have on their phones, the internet has a whole is changing. I suppose in a way everything loses its novelty as new ways of communicating come along but I still enjoy this forum :)


    sorry, i never use to see the gender of anyone before answering

    again sorry for delaaaaaayeeed apology

    i think i am not getting intimation for my replays

  11. Romans and Egyptians were clean shaven . Better knives ?

    lol. they must be having crystal laser edge knives .how about trying a shave with crystal laser edge knife without foam and after shave.do remember to tell me how you felt after the classical shave ! 


    What you are talking about is army uniform .even this trend changed from time to time .as per coins Heraclius had beard and Otto ,another roman emperor, used to swear by his beard which was hanging till his chest !

  12. Assalamualaikum Rahamatullahi Wabarakathahu


    let me start this article the verse from quran


    4:82. Do they not then consider the Qur'ân carefully? Had it been from other than Allâh, they would surely have found therein much contradictions.



    How about shaving with out Gillette, I mean without razor ,shaving foam or after shave . you will left with two options ,one, pluck you beard or use a knife or any other sharp object to shave .Can you imagine the pain and by the way what will happen to our face .This was the way our ancestors used to shave .So shaving was like mutilation in those days .due to this no one used to shave at least regularly as we are doing now  


    In other words almost everyone had beard!


    let me show you few coins 


           Coins of Khosrow II


        Gold solidus of Heraclius and his father



    These are the coins from the age of Prophet Mohammed (SAW) (refer Quran Surah Rum )
    Note that both the Romans and the Persian kings had beard!

    Abu Hurayrah " reported that the ruler of Yemen, appointed by the Persian emperor Kisra, sent two envoys to the Messenger !. When they came into his presence, he noticed that they had shaved their beards and let their moustaches grow big. Hating their ugly appearance, he turned his face away and said, “Woe be to you, who told you to do so?” They replied: “Our lord (Kisra) did!” The Messenger ! responded: “But my Lord, exalted and glorified be He, has commanded me to spare my beard and trim my moustaches.” [Recorded by Ibn Jarir at-Tabari, Ibn Sa’d, and Ibn Bishran. Verified to be hasan (good) by al-Albani (Fiqh us-Sirah by al-Ghazali p. 359)]


    It is very clear from this hadith none of them shaved out of their own will unless otherwise they were force to do so. Note that as per coins kisra emperor himself had beard but he ordered his messengers  to shave their beard.

    According to the Malikis:
    “Shaving the beard is prohibited, as is cutting it if it causes a (clear) mutilation. But if it becomes oversized, and if cutting it would not appear as a mutilation, then it may be cut; but that would be disliked and contrary to that which is better.” [sharh ur-Risalah by Abu al-Hasan, and the commentary on it by al-Adwi]
    One more reference from the past is
    Ibn Hazm al-Andalusi said:

    “All of the scholars agree that shaving the beard is a form of mutilation, and is prohibited.” [Maratib ul-Ijma' (p.157), and al-Muhalla (2:189)]

    ‘So it is evident from these sources that NO ONE IN THE PAST SHAVED THEIR BEARD!.At least regularly they might had shaved once or twice in their whole life span! In other words almost everyone had beard

    Now let me take this famous hadith
    Imam Bukhari (Rahimahullaah) reports on the authority of Imam Nafi' [ra] who narrates from Sayyiduna Abdullah ibn Umar, Radi-Allahu anhu, that Rasulullah Sall-Allahu alayhi wa sallam said, 'Oppose the Mushrikeen (polytheists); lengthen the beards and trim the moustaches.'

    Everyone who wants to prove beard is wajib (mandatory) uses this hadith.But one thing was left in almost every article I read about beard.This hadith was addressed to people who had beard because none of them used to shave!

    So the direct implementation of this hadith is not to cut the beard .in other words ,prophet Mohammed (SaW) was commanding people who were already having beard not to cut their beard and let it grow .This hadith was not about shaving the beard.
    But down the ages everyone use to cut their beard right from ibn  umar (Ra) abu huraira(Ra) to all the prominent scholars of those period .They never had issue of cutting the beard  

    Lets see few statements of our scholars about long beard 


    – Abu Dawood was asked about Abee Isra’eel al-Malaee and he said he was mentioned in front of Hussain al-Jua’fee and he said:

    ‘He used to have a long beard and was stupid.’

    [swalaat al-Aajjuri Li Imam Abee Dawood 1/122 no.62]

    Imam Shafi’aee said:
    ‘Whenever the beard is lengthened the intellect is lessened.’
    [al-Wafi bilwafayaat 2/123 in the biography of Imam Shafi’aee]


      Al-Mu’mal bin Isma’eel said: I heard Abu Hanifah said: It is said:

    ‘Whoever had a long beard did not have intellect.’

    [Collected by Ibn Hibban in ‘Thiqaat’ 9/162]

    These comments were taken from  http://abdurrahman.org/2015/10/06/cutting-the-beard-after-the-fist-compiled-translated-by-abbas-abu-yahya/

    Is it possible that sahabas and the prominent scholars were not following the hadith in our discussions and they were going against our  prophet or was it that they had no doubt that the hadith was meant only for a particular occasion?
    I think the latter one is true because our sahabas and scholars had no issue in these regard and they knew hadith better than us.

    My point is not about leaving the beard or cutting it but the fatwas based on this hadith
    How can they declare people without beard are fasiq
    How can they declare people who shave their beard are open sinners?

    As per these people we can perform salah behind osama bin laden but we cannot perform salah behind Abdul Basit Abdus Samad



    How can a beard become a yardstick  to measure piety!


    or is it as told by Ibn al-Qayyim

    “Islamic rulings change with changing customs, circumstances, and with time and location, and in consideration of the intention of the one engaged in the matter.”

  13. Assalamo alaikum


    .......... Currently Google is our main source for new members. The statistics show that guests are in average 20 times the number of active members most of the time around the clock (for example 5 members and 100 guests). What keeps people from registering is beyond me, although I can guess that perhaps forums have lost its attraction to social media, or perhaps the progressive speed life goes by causes people to become more comfortable lurking and browsing without the hassle of typing and engaging in mindful discussions?

    Alhamdulilah bro Dot

    Congratulations for maintaining IF as number one on google

    but ,i notice one thing now which was not happening in the past

    i think there are more guest now than we used to have in the past

  14. As salaam alaykum 


    What has happened to the forum in the sense that it has been so quiet for a long time? I know people have their own lives and I too myself have been absent for long periods but I like this forum compared to others out there. 


    I wonder are people actually coming to the forum and just not posting (the lurkers) or is it a case that forums are not popular anymore? There is a wealth of information on this forum, its sad to think that its not being used when it could be fixed by promoting the website more.


    Whatever the reason I would like for the forum to become active again, I enjoy posting here. I personally don't use social media, but wouldn't it be a good way to promote the website, brother dot? Or maybe some of the members could promote it also just to get it a bit active again. 


    Anyone else have any suggestions?

    Assalamualikum Rahamatullahi Wabarakathahu


    You are correct ,bro paradise (i will never want my paradise to get lost!)

    i think this what has happened to all the religious forum everywhere .

    seems religious forums are no longer have the charm as they did before

    one reason may be new inventions like FB,twitter,whatsup ....



  15. Alaykoum assalam wa rahmatou Allah wa barakatouh sister Aysha,


    According to my knowledge. Child marriage depends on the situation and Islam can allow it and even encourage it in some case: It can preserve the girl...


    You can see for instance these links:





    Furthermore, it is clear that the western union must not be our model (the number of crimes, rapes... against children is so high).


    Thank You sister for this subject.

    Waliakum Salam Brother


    I really thank you for this post


    This is a real eye opener for me


    The fatwa on this link  in which Dr. Hatem Al-Hajj  says verse 65.4 is talking about primary amenorrhea was my discovery in 2009

    i could not find that post on gawaher .perhaps brother DOT maight  know about this


    Futher , the article in the follwing link was just the summary of my findings




    I don't know weather to feel happy or sad


    on the one hand , i feel happy because atelast there few people who agree with me and i feel sad because ,again , the fruit of my hardwork was taken away by some one


    Any way ,there is one mighty reckoner who keeps account of all deeds of every body

    i hope he will pay the best in akhira



  16. Assala Mu Alaikum Oa Rahmatullah,


    I would like to share a global issue named “child marriage”. According to UNCRC (United Nations convention on the rights of the child) it is prohibited to give our children’s marriage under 18 years of age. But regarding the issue what is the position of Islam? Child marriage is a really a pathetic matter to a country, especially for third world. But are there any bindings to arrange a child marriage in Islamic philosophy...?


    Assalamualaikum Rahamatullahi Wabarakathahu

    I really wonder even after half a decade  this question remains hot on net .But this question drives Muslim to run for all lengths and breadths to find answers as it did to me half  a decade ago when I was straving for Islamic knowledge.


    This is a insignificant question because surveys and indices shows a different stories.


    Pl note that the age of marriage in all Muslims countries ranges from  15 years to 20 years (pl apply filters to find age of marraige in muslim countries).Secondly, the survey clearly shows that child abuse is on rampant in only non Muslim countries .I really wonder why this question always pointed towards muslims!


    However ,there is  a provision of early marriage in Islam but even there is a provision of spitting in salah

    Prayers (Salat) 

    Bukhari :: Book 1 :: Volume 8 :: Hadith 408

    Narrated Abu Huraira:

    Prophet said, "If anyone of you stands for prayer, he should not spit in front of him because in prayer he is speaking in private to Allah and he should not spit on his right as there is an angel, but he can spit either on his left or under his left foot and bury it (i.e. expectoration)."


    there are lots of hadiths for this action

    had you ever seen muslims doing these even after having the provison to spit


    likewise , marriage at early age is seldom among muslims


    finally , As a peice of advice to the author of this thread

    Never try to gain the Islamic  knowledge on net .Always sought professionals to gain knowledge in a systamic way .pl try IOU



  17. Assalamulaikum Rahamatullahi Wabarakathahu


    I want to make couple of things clear here


    Firsltly,This article  is the continuation of my first article


    Secondly ,I am not against Islamic Banking ,but I see few Islamic banks offering personal loans with the concept of murabaha

    As an example , see here ANB offering personal loan to salaried people.if a working class man comes to bank for a loan then he is needy and bank is making him a business man!Otherwise , the terms offered by the bank is excellent