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  1. Tawal, Kabbah, Day Of Eid And Hajj

    Thank you very much both - that is very helpful.
  2. Tawal, Kabbah, Day Of Eid And Hajj

    Hello again. I hear a talk the other day and I want check out some facst please with yourselves who know about these things in order to educate myself correctly. Is it true that Mohammed demolished all gods except the moon god (hubal) in the Kabbah? If not, what is the meaning of the crescent on Masjids? Is it true that Muslims used to pray towards Jerusalem, but after the Jews rejected Mohammed they now pray to Mecca? Is it true that Muslims sacrifce animals on the Day of Eid (and what is the Day of Eid)? Is it true that on the Hajj Muslim run between three pillars (small devil, medium devil and large devil) and throw stones at them? I jsut would like to know whether these things are true and if so, what they mean to Muslims, and how they form a part of your spiritual life. Many thanks!
  3. Israel And The Nazi

    Well I don't disagree with you - spiritual zionism IS inclusive. Most definitely. I just question whether it can happen peacefully before Christ comes back. That is where it can get confusing and where I won't even try to discuss on forums - not with Jews (because the do not believe Christ is "coming back") - not even Christians (a lot of Christians seem to doubt it too - they believe we go to heaven when we die and that is where God's "Kingdom" is) - not with Muslims because although they believe Christ is coming back, it is not to herald in God's Kingdom on earth for eternity, but they believe Christ (after slaying the anti-christ) will reign only for 40 years and then die, whereas I personally believe Christ is already immortal and His reign will be forever as the Bible says. However, I do believe Christ's reign will be inclusive yes - there won't only be Jews living in the Holy Land. Jesus has redeemed people from ALL nations and races. There is no room for nationalistic racism in Christ' Kingdom. His reign will last for 1000 years and at the end of that time He will hand the Kingdom back to the Father.
  4. Family Problems, I Am Feeling Hopeless, Suicidal..

    You need some professional help and some support from people within your community. I'm sure there are support groups for Muslims with family problems. You can't bear this alone - please try and seek some help. Try this link or google "support for muslim women" or something, you sound desperate. (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetangelfire(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/mo/MWSA/"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetangelfire(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/mo/MWSA/[/url]
  5. Israel And The Nazi

    THANK YOU Martinz!!! Yes I do want consider both sides and the only way i am going to truly learn the other side of the story is to come onto a Muslim forum and have it given me straight with both barrels. .....and you are right that Christian Zionists wouldn't touch a Forum like this with a barge pole. But I want to be informed and try to understand the other side. It is so easy to believe lies when you don't have dialogue or test the boundaries. Thanks for sharing some of your story. Yes, but I do believe as a Christian that that is only possible in Christ. And actually I guess all Christians are "zionists" of one sort or another though don't you think? I suppose the definitiion of a zionist is "Christ and God ruling" - whether Christians believe that to be in people's hearts and minds, or whether (like some) they believe it to be literal when Christ returns. .....And the Lord's prayer is really I guess a "zionist" prayer because for centuries Christians have prayed "Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven". I guess Christian zionism is all about God's Kingdom on earth in one form or another. A lot of Christians however are very supportive of Palestine actually - particularly the Methodist church, and the Catholics, and also the charity Christian Aid is very supportive of Palestinians. I am actually doing a Concert in aid of Christian Aid of Saturday, so I try hard not to be biased in how I live out my faith, but I do think that saying the holocaust is a fairy-tale is a bit extreme. And anyone can compare images - but sometimes they don't always mean that much. I mean, in my previous post I have referred to the image of the masked Hamas gunman I saw on the BBC, to the images of the masked IRA gunmen I remember as a child and teenager. Just because they look the same, am I therefore to say that they are both terrorists? No. Or should I? I doubt it. If the holocaust is truly a fairy-tale, then those pictures used as comparisons in the first post shouldn't be used because they aren't really true if the holocaust isn't really true. That's all. I just think we have to accept the facts.
  6. Israel And The Nazi

    Yes I have to agree Younes you are right - and I admit seeing the masked Hamas leader with a gun did strike fear in me - even though I am not his enemy! ........but I wonder if that was a cultural thing for me because I am in the UK? Seeing that masked Hamas gunman (leader or not) reminded me of the IRA and Sinn Fein. I grew up in Birmingham in the 1970's when the IRA were masked gunmen and their identities were secret - and it does strike fear in people. I well remember the Birmingham pub bombings in 1974 which struck fear in a lot of people (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_en.wikipedia(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/wiki/Birmingham_pub_bombings"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_en.wikipedia(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/wiki/Birmingham_pub_bombings[/url] When I grew up in Birmingham we were always afraid of being blown up by IRA terrorists who targetted innocent people (though they nearly always gave warnings of their bombs, but not always) - we always had to look out for parcels and packages on buses and trains, or in bins or anywhere and I guess that kind of imagery sticks. I know that the masked Hamas leader wasn't an IRA terrorist in my rational mind - but I guess his image didn't do anything much within the British psyche as people as old as I am will subconsciously link it with bad things that happened in Britain with the IRA. Here are some images of masked IRA gunmen and these were a frequent site on British TV at one stage, so i guess it brought back bad memories: (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetbbc.co.uk/heritage/in_depth/pressure/images/ira_man.jpg"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetbbc.co.uk/heritage/in_depth/pre...ges/ira_man.jpg[/url] (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41629000/jpg/_41629016_ira_238.jpg"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/4162...016_ira_238.jpg[/url] ....and many more - just type into google IRA guman and select images and you will see the wrong connection I made.
  7. Israel And The Nazi

    Well thanks for the explanations - that is helpful. Yes Younes, I think the Hamas leader who was interviewed he was a military person as he had a machine gun in his hand which indicates he was a solider (though he was introduced by Jeremey Bowen of the BBC who interviewed him as a leader of Hamas). I guess it is risky to show ones face as a soldier - though I would have thought the uniform is a give away, but I don't think masks ultimately protect leaders. They can still be rooted out and killed whether they wear one or not I think.
  8. Israel And The Nazi

    I think it's sad when any person has to die and it is painful for their families - whether they are the enemy or not. It is very sad. I DO feel the pain - that is what I said. I do condemn any regime which does illegal things. The Holocaust is a fact - even if the numbers are exaggerated (though Nazi records were impeccable by all accounts). So the Holocaust is not a "fairy tale". If it is - then those images are not true. They are fairy-tale images. If they are fairy-tale images are untrue - they shouldn't be used alongside true ones. I am shocked by some of the things in the hamas charter that is all. If a UK government had a charter like that, I would find it hard. Also, when I saw a TV programme which interviewed a Hamas leader the leader wore a black with two slits in the eyes. I found that quite difficult and thought it was wrong. Can you imagine Gordon Brown or Barak Obama going about leading their government with a mask on? I personally do not believe that political Zionism will work - I believe it will fail. Probably for the reasons you say. Yes I agree, there are some very bad Jews. But there are innocent victims on both sides as well.
  9. Zionist Nazism

    israel is a democracy and has Arabs/Muslims in it's government: (Wiki) Also there is freedom of religion in the land israel occupies. So to compare israel to the Third Reich is factually wrong. The Third Reich allowed no freedom of religion, and they allowed no-one in their governing ranks of opposing views.
  10. Jewish And Zionist

    A couple of other questions: 1) Do Muslims see Jesus as a Jew or do they think of Him as a Muslim? 2) What do Muslims generally make of these verses: "To Moses We [Allah] gave nine clear signs. Ask the israelites how he [Moses] first appeared amongst them. Pharoah said to him: ‘Moses, I can see that you are bewitched.’ ‘You know full well,’ he [Moses] replied, ‘that none but the Lord of the heavens and the earth has revealed these visible signs. Pharoah, you are doomed.’" "Pharoah sought to scare them [the israelites] out of the land [of israel]: but We [Allah] drowned him [Pharoah] together with all who were with him. Then We [Allah] said to the israelites: ‘Dwell in this land [the Land of israel]. When the promise of the hereafter [End of Days] comes to be fulfilled, We [Allah] shall assemble you [the israelites] all together [in the Land of israel]." "We [Allah] have revealed the Qur'an with the truth, and with the truth it has come down. We have sent you [Mohammed] forth only to proclaim good news and to give warning." [Qur'an, "Night Journey," chapter 17:100-104] Thank you.
  11. Jerusalem In The Quran

    It relates to resurrection - well certainly on the Christians part. Is that what you mean? I thought Muslims believed in resurrection? What about the verse that says about Ishamael in Genesis 16: 11-12 "And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction. {Ishmael: that is, God shall hear} And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren. " Is this corrupted or do Muslims believe it as true? yes he was a prophet, but when he was old his pagan wives (700) led him astray. Why would the Jews lie about that? 1Kings 11:4 -8 "For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, that his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with the LORD his God, as was the heart of David his father. For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Zidonians, and after Milcom the abomination of the Ammonites. {Milcom: also called, Molech} And Solomon did evil in the sight of the LORD, and went not fully after the LORD, as did David his father. {went...: Heb. fulfilled not after} Then did Solomon build an high place for Chemosh, the abomination of Moab, in the hill that is before Jerusalem, and for Molech, the abomination of the children of Ammon. And likewise did he for all his strange wives, which burnt incense and sacrificed unto their gods."
  12. Jewish And Zionist

    I think you will find Christian Zionists (the evangelical fundie types) totally shun freemasonry. They believe freemasonry is of the devil. So there is no conspiracy between them at least. They also believe that things like Brownies and Scouts are evil and also other freemasonry associated clubs and will have nothing to do with them.
  13. Obama: The Zionist Wolf In Sheep’s Clothing.

    Thank you - yes i misunderstood - I thought what you wrote was you speaking! .....yes and Britain is not guiltless I believe.
  14. Facebook, Do You Use It?

    Well i don't know why they think they have to even upload a photo? Just because its called "Facebook" doesn't mean to say you have to upload a picture of your face - you don't. You have a choice. You don't have to upload any photo whatsoever. Or you can upload a picture of your favourite flower or a particular landscape if you prefer. A lot of my friends have pictures of their pets, or their kids or a favourite place on holiday - one fried of mine has a picture of a snowman he built. So they shouldn't let that stop them enjoying the benefits of social networking with other Muslim girls and their relatives on Facebook.
  15. Obama: The Zionist Wolf In Sheep’s Clothing.

    Just picking up on this for a mo - I think that is probably the crux of it in some ways, but most of israel is a secular state. They are unbelievers. Many of them are ungodly and are not even remotely religious. In fact the religious jews say that the Land is God's and that they should not fight for it? I agree with Younes to a certain extent: I don't believe in a "one God fits all" , and so I must admit I tend to see Allah and the Father God I worship as different "Gods" (though I accept Arab Christians refer to God as "Allah" - I do not have a problem with that). The more I read about Allah in the Quran, the more remote Allah seems and is not really recognisable to me. I think this is to do with the parrable that Jesus told about the prodigal son. I do not know what Muslims believe about Jesus's parables, but it is this one: Lu 15:11 ¶ And he said, A certain man had two sons: 12 And the younger of them said to his father, Father, give me the portion of goods that falleth to me. And he divided unto them his living. 13 And not many days after the younger son gathered all together, and took his journey into a far country, and there wasted his substance with riotous living. 14 And when he had spent all, there arose a mighty famine in that land; and he began to be in want. 15 And he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country; and he sent him into his fields to feed swine. 16 And he would fain have filled his belly with the husks that the swine did eat: and no man gave unto him. 17 And when he came to himself, he said, How many hired servants of my father's have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger! 18 I will arise and go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and before thee, 19 And am no more worthy to be called thy son: make me as one of thy hired servants. 20 And he arose, and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off, his father saw him, and had compassion, and ran, and fell on his neck, and kissed him. 21 And the son said unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and in thy sight, and am no more worthy to be called thy son. 22 But the father said to his servants, Bring forth the best robe, and put it on him; and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet: 23 And bring hither the fatted calf, and kill it; and let us eat, and be merry: 24 For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry." It is this parable which shows the Father-heart of God. Sorry that's a bit off topic, but I was responding to Younes statement. However, secondly I'd like to ask why do Muslims believe Allah allowed the land to be stolen and why did Allah allow the Palestinian Exodus in 1948? Do any of you have a view on this? (I am reading of this a little in "Jerusalem and the Quran" where he seems to suggest it is a strange phenomenon of man's making) - do Muslims believe that Allah is all powerful in the Kingdom's of men? ....or is Allah's sphere only in the spirit world? The Hebrew Scriptures teach me that God rules in the kingdoms of men: "This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men." (Daniel 4:17). Do Muslims have a similar view, or is this one of the corrupted Hebrew texts? (I am just asking questions - not trying to trick anyone, but am genuinely interested. I believe its important we share how we believe things so that we can all understand each other better. However if any of my post is offensive, please moderate it and accept my apologies, but I do not know how to express my questions any other way. Thank you).
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