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  1. Will Humans Exist In Life After Death?

    I have made my point. It's getting out of topic, and it's getting too emotional. For the sake of everyone, I'll consider this topic is closed.
  2. Broken Britain

    if you've read the far-off event, you'll know what i mean by guesswork.. unfortunately i'm not in the mood to explain anything today.. nothing personal..n nothing to do with the thread..
  3. Will Humans Exist In Life After Death?

    :sl: I don't recall mentioning the verse you quote.. :-/ was it from a different thread? the arabic hadeeth i quoted in my previous post was hadeeth 1858 of the book ÔÚÈ ÇáÇíãÇä ááÈíåÞí: google transalation would translate it to: "Tell Abu al-Hasan Ali bin Ahmed bin Abadan, tell us Ahmad bin Obaid al-Saffar, Muhammad b. Isa ibn Abi Iyas, Saeed Bin Sulaiman narrated from Abdullah bin Deakin, from Ja'far bin Muhammad from his father, grandfather, Ali ibn Abi Talib , may Allah be pleased with him said: The Messenger of Allah peace be upon him: «is about to come to people's time does not remain of Islam but its name is left of the Koran, but his painting, Masjids filled with the ruins of the guidance, scholars worse than under the canopy of (1) the sky have graduated return to civil strife, including »Abu Saad Almalini Tell us, tell us the Abu Ahmed Bin Adi, Essa bin Suleiman al-Qurashi, told us humans Bin Al-Waleed, narrated Abdullah bin Deakin, he mentioned his isnaad suspended" kind of funny translation.. the point being is that the scholars of the time mentioned (which most likely be today) are the worst people under the sky to follow.. fitna(tribulation/sedition/trials/strife) originates from them, and these fitna will eventually swing back to them..
  4. Will Humans Exist In Life After Death?

    what if the current condition doesn't allow for the fomer.. 1858 - ÃÎÈÑäÇ ÃÈæ ÇáÃÓä Úáí Èä ÃÃãà Èä ÚÈÃÇä ¡ ÃÎÈÑäÇ ÃÃãà Èä ÚÈíà ÇáÕÃÇÑ ¡ ÃÃ节 ãÃãà Èä ÚíÓì Èä ÃÈí ÅíÇÓ ¡ ÃÃ节 ÓÚíà Èä ÓáíãÇä ¡ Úä ÚÈà Çááå Èä Ãßíä ¡ Úä ÌÚÃÑ Èä ãÃãà ¡ Úä ÃÈíå ¡ Úä ÃŒÃÃ¥ ¡ Úä Úáí Èä ÃÈí ØÇáÈ ¡ ÑÖí Çááå Úäå ÞÇá : ÞÇá ÑÓæá Çááå Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã : « íæÔß Ãä íÃÊí Úáì ÇáäÇÓ 񋂊 áÇ íÈÞì ãä ÇáÅÓáÇã ÅáÇ ÇÓãå ¡ æáÇ íÈÞì ãä ÇáÞÑÂä ÅáÇ ÑÓãå ¡ ãÓÇÌÃåã ÚÇãÑÉ æåí ÎÑÇÈ ãä ÇáåÃì ¡ ÚáãÇÄåã ÔÑ ãä ÊÃÊ ÃÃíã (1) ÇáÓãÇà ãä ÚäÃåã ÊÎÑÌ ÇáÃ抃 æÃíåã ÊÚæà » ÃÎÈÑäÇ ÃÈæ ÓÚà ÇáãÇáíäí ¡ ÃÎÈÑäÇ ÃÈæ ÃÃãà Èä ÚÃí ¡ ÃÃ节 ÚíÓì Èä ÓáíãÇä ÇáÞÑÔí ¡ ÃÃ节 ÈÔÑ Èä Çáæáíà ¡ ÃÃ节 ÚÈà Çááå Èä Ãßíä ¡ ÃÃ᥆ ÈÅÓäÇÃÃ¥ ãæÞæÃÇ isn't it time for each individual to reach out for Allah's guidance..? after all, they will only be asked what they know of the truth? not what others know of the truth..
  5. Will Humans Exist In Life After Death?

    :sl: language defines people the slightes of meaning can make a totally different world.. it doesn't matter what i think.. it's what we can interpret from the source.. Allah swt has left no stone unturned. the deen is complete. it's all for the interpertation.. the problem is then about guidance.. let's pray that alllah guides us to the straight path..
  6. Broken Britain

    I used to be in Kilburn.. Where were you in London? because we're banu(son of) adam as.. we're borthers n sisters in blood.. pardon my bluntness, cuz i need to get to the point quickly.. it is because you(n the civilisation you live in) indulge yourself in guess work, that's why you're having a hard time finding out the problem..
  7. Destruction Caused By The Saudis

    Allahu Akbar brother Ausie All praise due to Allah swt.. :sl: jazakallah for your kind words.. :sl: and jazakallah for the link sab3/7/ÓÈÚ sometime it means many also.. I just hope that the muslim ummah would wake up from the slumber they're in and act decisivley once and for all..
  8. Will Humans Exist In Life After Death?

    :sl: Sister, let me remind you that you took the prejudice stance first and now you put the blame on me.. a sirrah to remind you: ((ÃÎá ÃÃíÃÉ Èä ÇáíãÇä Úáì ÚãÑ Èä ÇáÎØÇÈ ÃÓÃáå: ßíà ÃÕÈÃÊ íÇ ÃÃíÃÉ¿ ÃÃÌÇÈ ÃÃíÃÉ: ÃÕÈÃÊ ÃÃÈ ÇáÃ抃, æÃßÑå ÇáÃÞ, æÃÕáí ÈÛíÑ æÖæÃ, æáí Ãí ÇáÃÑÖ ãÇ áíÓ ááå Ãí ÇáÓãÇÃ, ÃÛÖÈ ÚãÑ ÛÖÈÇð ÔÃíÃÇð, ææáì æÌåå Úäå, æÇÊÃÞ Ãä ÃÎá Úáì Èä ÃÈì ØÇáÈ, ÃÑÂå Úáì Êáß ÇáÃÇá, ÃÓÃáå Úä ÇáÓÈÈ, ÃÃßÑ áå ãÇ ÞÇáå ÇÈä ÇáíãÇä, ÃÞÇá Úáí: áÞà ÕÃÞß ÃíãÇ ÞÇá íÇ ÚãÑ, ÃÞÇá ÚãÑ: æßíà Ãáß¿ ÞÇá Úáí: Åäå íÃÈ ÇáÃ抃 áÞæáå ÊÚÇáì: {ÅäãÇ ÃãæÇáßã æÃæáÇÃßã Ã抃} Ãåæ íÃÈ ÃãæÇáå æÃæáÇÃÃ¥, æíßÑå ÇáÃÞ ÈãÚäì ÇáãæÊ, áÞæáå ÊÚÇáì: {æÇÚÈà ÑÈß ÃÊì íÃÊíß ÇáíÞíä}, æíÕáí ÈÛíÑ æÖæÃ, íÚäí Ãäå íÕáí Úáì ãÃãà Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã, æãÚäì Ãä áå Ãí ÇáÃÑÖ ãÇ áíÓ ááå Ãí ÇáÓãÇÃ, íÚäì Ãä áå ÒæÌÉ æÃæáÇÃÇð, æÇááå ÊÚÇáì åæ ÇáæÇÃà ÇáÃÃÃ, ÇáÃÑà ÇáÕãÃ, ÇáÃí áã íáà æáã íæáÃ, ÃÞÇá ÚãÑ: ÃÃÓäÊ íÇ ÃÈÇ ÇáÃÓä..áÞà ÃÒáÊ ãÇ Ãí ÞáÈí Úáì ÃÃíÃÉ) ) . i ask of you not to make misleading accusation. everyone will be accounted for what they say. i asked previously about what did the homo's ignored. i answered it in the next point by noting the reason to be is the creation of human man and human women are only for the opposite sex and not the same sex. btw, these are all in the context of pre-qiyamah. Allah swt introduces the concept of post qiyamah, which is rather different from what was in pre-qiyamah. e.g. (in the soorah you mentioned) man faces turn dark, some even deformed into other types of faces, etc. æõÌõæåñ íóæúãóÆöÃò äøóÇÖöÑóÉñ ] but some pious ones emit light from them, etc. next we go for the 7adeeth you mentioned: 3401 - æÈå ÃÃ节 ãÃãà Èä ÃÖíá ¡ Úä ÚãÇÑÉ Èä ÇáÞÚÞÇÚ ¡ Úä ÃÈí ÕÇáà ¡ Úä ÃÈí åÑíÑÉ ÞÇá : ÞÇá ÑÓæá Çááå Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã : « Ãæá 񋄃 (1) íÃÎáæä ÇáÌäÉ ãä ÃãÊí Úáì ÕæÑÉ ÇáÞãÑ áíáÉ ÇáÈÃÑ ¡ æÇáÃíä íáæäåã Úáì Öæà ÃÔà ßæßÈ Ãí ÇáÓãÇà ÅÖÇÃÉ ¡ áÇ íÈæáæä ¡ æáÇ íÊÛæØæä (2) ¡ æáÇ íÊÃáæä ¡ æáÇ íãÊÎØæä (3) ¡ ÃãÔÇØåã ÇáÃåÈ ¡ æÑÔÃåã ÇáãÓß ¡ æãÌÇãÑåã (4) ÇáÃáæÉ ¡ æÃÒæÇÌåã ÇáÃæÑ ÇáÚíä ¡ ÃÎáÇÞåã Úáì ÎáÞ ÑÌá æÇÃà Úáì ÕæÑÉ ÃÈíåã ÂÃã ÓÊíä ÃÑÇÚÇ » áã íÑæ Ã¥ÃÇ ÇáÃÃíË Úä ÚãÇÑÉ ÅáÇ ãÃãà Èä ÃÖíá Firstly: it seems that we have difference in realizing what is considered as image.. (btw it's not form, it's image ÕæÑÉ ) as anyone can see in current days, that image does not always represents it's essence/medium. the essence can be from things such as clay, fire, etc or paper, stone, etc but the image can be the same.. image of a bird on a stone, image of the same bird on a paper.. images can be 3d also.. like us..in this muddy reality.. we also have a similar conceptual notion/parables/pattern with the verse i mentioned earlier: æóÈóÔøöÑö ÇáøóÃöíäó ÂóãóäõæÇ æóÚóãöáõæÇ ÇáÕøóÇáöÃóÇÊö Ãóäøó áóåõãú ÌóäøóÇÊò ÊóÌúÑöí ãöäú ÊóÃúÊöåóÇ ÇáúÃóäúåóÇÑõ ßõáøóãóÇ ÑõÒöÞõæÇ ãöäúåóÇ ãöäú ËóãóÑóÉò ÑöÒúÞðÇ ÞóÇáõæÇ åóÃóÇ ÇáøóÃöí ÑõÒöÞúäóÇ ãöäú ÞóÈúáõ æóÃõÊõæÇ Èöåö ãõÊóÔóÇÈöåðÇ æóáóåõãú ÃöíåóÇ ÃóÒúæóÇÌñ ãõØóåøóÑóÉñ æóåõãú ÃöíåóÇ ÎóÇáöÃõæäó (25) Q 2:25 æóÃõÊõæÇ Èöåö ãõÊóÔóÇÈöåðÇ They thought it was the same fruit..?? But it's not.. the essence is different..the image is the same.. Secondly, what you view as physical solid flesh and blood to humans can be ethereal to jinn, vice versa..it's relative to whose perspective.. ethereal is just a concept.. everything can be considered real, but at the same time everything can be considered ethereal.. it all depends on Allah swt's will.. iblis even though made out of fire, he is still can get burned humans who are made out of clay, can be flattened by mud brick.. the prophet pbuh can pass through sidratul muntaha, jibriel as cannot.. it's so easy for Allah to change the nature of things.. let alone the essence of in what’s in heaven so as to make sweat become perfume.. this same notion can be expanded to the notion of deeds, between good deeds and bad deeds.. in general prostrating to other than the creator is considered blasphemy iblis didn't prostrate toward adam as.. but it seems that he is the sinner.. why? because Allah swt ordered him to do so..but he rejected the order.. every action in this world can be bad deed if Allah wills.. vise versa.. Allah wills at that time that a new order be made not of the same previous orders, that is the prostration to adam. i argue, that the world of the heavens is diametrically, orthogonally different from earth because Allah swt wills it so, Allah swt provides examples of it sex is not a tiresome activity khamr doesn't make you drunk people don't sneeze (no illness) people don't defecated/urinate (no limitations, esp. for same sex thing..you know what I mean) man faces turn dark, some even deformed into other types of faces, etc. æõÌõæåñ íóæúãóÆöÃò äøóÇÖöÑóÉñ ] but some pious ones emit light from them, etc. Thirdly and this one might shock you, In this exact hadeeth that you mentioned, there was never mentioning of the image of Eve as.... all from the image of adam as..... what does that imply? those that came from earth and come to heaven, will become male like. So have I proven my point? wallahua3lam {Moderator note} This post has violated forum rule #35. Action taken. 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  9. Will Humans Exist In Life After Death?

    now now sister.. let's keep calm here.. i'm on the good side here inshaallah.. :sl: i'll get back to you on this topic when i'm finished with work tonight inshaallah seems to me that there's a lot of explaining need be done.. but just to tuch on it for a moment the complete redaction: æóáõæØðÇ ÅöÃú ÞóÇáó áöÞóæúãöåö ÃóÊóÃúÊõæäó ÇáúÃóÇÃöÔóÉó æóÃóäúÊõãú ÊõÈúÕöÑõæäó (54) ÃóÆöäøóßõãú áóÊóÃúÊõæäó ÇáÑøöÌóÇáó ÔóåúæóÉð ãöäú Ãõæäö ÇáäøöÓóÇÃö Èóáú ÃóäúÊõãú Þóæúãñ ÊóÌúåóáõæäó (55) ÃóãóÇ ßóÇäó ÌóæóÇÈó Þóæúãöåö ÅöáøóÇ Ãóäú ÞóÇáõæÇ ÃóÎúÑöÌõæÇ Âóáó áõæØò ãöäú ÞóÑúíóÊößõãú Åöäøóåõãú ÃõäóÇÓñ íóÊóØóåøóÑõæäó (56) Here the homo's are accused of being Þóæúãñ ÊóÌúåóáõæäó. They are ignorant of what? the complete redaction: ÃóÊóÃúÊõæäó ÇáÃøõßúÑóÇäó ãöäó ÇáúÚóÇáóãöíäó (165) æóÊóÃóÑõæäó ãóÇ ÎóáóÞó áóßõãú ÑóÈøõßõãú ãöäú ÃóÒúæóÇÌößõãú Èóáú ÃóäúÊõãú Þóæúãñ ÚóÇÃõæäó (166) ÞóÇáõæÇ áóÆöäú áóãú ÊóäúÊóåö íóÇ áõæØõ áóÊóßõæäóäøó ãöäó ÇáúãõÎúÑóÌöíäó (167) ÞóÇáó Åöäøöí áöÚóãóáößõãú ãöäó ÇáúÞóÇáöíäó (168) ÑóÈøö äóÌøöäöí æóÃóåúáöí ãöãøóÇ íóÚúãóáõæäó (169) æóÊóÃóÑõæäó ãóÇ ÎóáóÞó áóßõãú ÑóÈøõßõãú ãöäú ÃóÒúæóÇÌößõãú Allah has created the human male for the human female. vice versa. Are we going to be human in the heaven? But I hope to expound on the subject more later inshaallah. Sister, The knowledge of the world and the rahmah of Allah swt in this world is only a fraction of what is in heaven. Inshaallah, Allah will protect me. Until then please be patient.
  10. Too bad, I don't live around there no more.. I wish the organizers success. May Allah help you with your efforts for the deen.
  11. Writing Fantasy Stories

    You know what, I think you can write with the setting spaced and timed in the hereafter life.. :sl: no limits and no boundaries.. all is there for the say.. you can mention the unthinkable.. :sl: it would be good for escaping the draughts in life and an exercise of imagination..
  12. The Greatest Challenges Faced By Muslims

    you're right about heteroginity..i also agree.. what i don't agree is that of : 1. "legal" territorial boudaries restrictions..such as visa (i say abolish them visa's, muslim should be allowed to go to makkah anytime they want, it's a major sin to holdback) 2. paper currnency and the need to default to USD 3. central banking 4. (more to come i'm sure) i think the defintion of country you're refering to is similar to what regional division / district would be
  13. Broken Britain

    i suppose you only want to see the good part of it.. i lived in London for 4 years in the 90's and i've seen at least a dozen of them.. :sl: that was in the 90's, i can't imagine it now.. because they care? having a teenage mother is not a problem, the problem arrises when the mother has no spouse to help her financially and psychologically.. that is the case for most of non-wedlock-ed relationship.. no assurance..
  14. At-taqwa Institute

    wa3alaikum salam, masha aallah. I wish you success with your efforts for Allah..
  15. Will Humans Exist In Life After Death?

    agreed jazakallah for the insights..
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