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  1. 'Islam Recognizes Homosexuality'

    I don't think I'm allowed to post links but I'll try thejakartapost DOT COM /news/2008/03/27/Islam-039recognizes-homosexuality039.html what do you think?
  2. The Theory Of Evolution

    It's funny cuz everything in that movie applies more to religious people than it does to evolution. ".. find out at what length religion would go to spread their theory." Religion has murdered people over the centuries for not believing in the invisible space monkey. Religion censors everything that gets in its way. Religion brainwashes young children into believing an ancient fairytale book Name me one scientist who murdered one person for not believing in evolution.
  3. The Theory Of Evolution

    Ignorance is bliss.
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  5. The Theory Of Evolution

    Islam has become idolatry. You are worshiping a book by interpreting it as the word of god. Your god has become your book. Again, this is not about evolution. This about people who think that some ancient book is the word of god. You are not the only one. There are thousands of religions (many that don't exist anymore) who believe the same thing about their books and their gods; you are just brainwashed.
  6. The Theory Of Evolution

    I think you mean 'There is no passage in the quran which speaks against homo-neaderthalis and homo-erectus and all the other homo species evolved' ? So of all the billions and billions and billions and billions and billions of species that have ever existed on earth, god hand-picked us, specifically, to be magically created? Don't you think that's a little biased, mainly because you happen to be a homo sapien yourself?!
  7. The Theory Of Evolution

    also that link is (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_ncse(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/creationism/polls-surveys"]ncse (dot) com/creationism/polls-surveys[/url]
  8. The Theory Of Evolution

    0_____o i don't even.. 1) I can't remember what link i looked at but here (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_ncse(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/creationism/polls-surveys"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_ncse(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/creationism/polls-surveys[/url] shows a list of polls about various subjects. You can look at 'Polls on Evolution' and go from there. Personally, I don't rely on statistics. In fact i regret saying 99% of scientists support evolution. It's not about how many people accept or people's opinions; it's about the underlying evidence. 2) Incest is not right, at all. I don't what you guys in egypt are doing. i know you can get pretty desperate with the whole cultural-sexual-oppression thing going on but keep it out of your relatives all right? peace.
  9. The Theory Of Evolution

    1) Religious people are relying on a fallacy that disproving evolution = proving god/creation No. You can spend your entire life debating why evolution is wrong, but that won't prove that god did it. More importantly, it won't even prove that your particular god did it. Why does it have to be the abrahamic god? It could have been an eastern-religion deity like vishnu, or an extinct-religion's god like Thor or even the FSM! Since there's no proof for god, it could have been anyone or anything; there are literally infinite fictional possibilities to choose from! 2) No one cares about evolution. Even atheists like me who accept evolution don't really care about it. It doesn't help me in my day-to-day life or anything; it's just a scientific concept that I learned about, said 'OK that's cool' and moved on. This brings me to my next point: the real reason creationists attack evolution is because they feel it threatens their faith and thus their happiness. But as I said before, believers, disproving evolution does not equal proving god. If you want to find religious comfort, you need to look within religion. If you think your faith is undermined and you're uncomfortable about it, then maybe it's time to re-assess your faith and maybe your life as a whole. 3) Arguing over evolution: it's like beating a dead horse. It's been accepted for over 150 years now by more than 99% of western scientists and has more proof than you can shake a stick at. There's no point debating with creationists because there's two types: 1. those who actually want to learn about evolution because they realized their creationist beliefs were wrong --> just go to wikipedia. 2. those who just want to argue endlessly --> i'm too old for this; i've got other things to do. Peace.
  10. Embryology

    Science at the time of Mohammed thought that semen originated from the kidneys ('from between the backbone and ribs'). We now know today that it comes from the testis. plain and simple. Every refutation you hear from muslim apologetics emerges from their fear of admitting that they're wrong. Let me let you in on a little secret: there's NOTHING wrong with admitting that you're wrong. I've done it plenty of times. It's called 'honesty'.
  11. Are Pigs Dirty?

    why hasn't god destroyed satan yet? also, if god is testing us, but god knows everything, including the future, thus he knows what we're going to do anyway, so what's the purpose of these tests? also, why hasn't god destroyed satan yet??
  12. Why Atheism Doesn't Make Sense

    everytime i hear a muslim say 'recently science discovered in the quran, etc', i get a headache. you muslims are following an idea originally started by maurice bucaille in the 1970's. he was paid $$$ to do this, he started out the 'science in the quran' argument. he is, quite frankly, a charlatan. anyways, there is no miraculous science in the quran. you muslims just pick a random verse that sounds vaguely like science and say 'oh, it must be a miracle, no one knew this 1400 years ago, so Allah must exist'. this is why Islam is a pathetic insult to the human mind. there is so much ignorance in this statement, it's why i need aspirin every time i hear it. 1. you're misinterpreting it and taking it out of context. when mohammed was making up the koran, he probably used the latest science known at his time as a metaphor for one of his ideeas. it's not meant to be interpreted as 'ohh no one knew this 1400 years ago, blah blah blah' 2. the 'science' in the quran is wrong. one example is (i forgot what verse) he mentions that semen comes from a man's kidneys, when we know today it comes from the testis, hence the argument is invalid. also he doesn't mentioned the women's egg, which is just as equally important as the semen. more is here youtube com watch?v=5jSq89TMflk 3. YES, SOMEONE DID KNOW ALL THIS STUFF 1400 YEARS AGO! you've got to be mentally disabled if you think humans didn't know a thing or two about science 1400 years ago, or you failed history HARD, or you're too lazy to google it. the greeks were the masters of science in their time, and you'd drop your jaw at how much they knew, and they lived hundreds of years before mohammed! the only way science in the koran is miraculous is if saudi arabia landed on mars by next year. otherwise, get out.
  13. Are Pigs Dirty?

    Why did god create the pig if it's unclean? just curious...
  14. Harun Yahya Posters On London Buses!

    Amen. :sl:
  15. A Problem With The Quran/islam

    Pardon me if the points made in the following video have already been mentioned, but it's largely relevant youtube (dot) com (dot) watch?v=YotBtibsuh0 religion erodes science. plain and simple.
  16. The End Of Evolutionism

    sigh.... Lets say we go ahead and prove that evolution is somehow false. How does this is "negative" proof of evolution equal "positive" proof of an invisible man in the clouds magically, through some sort of incantation or supernatural magic, creates all life? Disproving evolution does not prove creationism. This is simply 'g0d of the gaps'. your argument is "we don't know, therefore g0d must have done it". Very common thinking, been around since the time of cavemen... but you don't believe in cavemen do you? old argument, try again.
  17. The End Of Creationism

    I was about to make a post the size of a whale, but I decided to get right down to the point. I kindly respect everyone's views about the origin of the universe. However, in this post, I postulate a question to the people who hold the opinion of divine creation i.e. that a god or god(s) miraculously created mankind in our current form a recent time ago. Here's my challenge to that: GOOSE BUMPS Goose bumps happens when you are sitting near the window and cool breeze comes in and your arms do these funny things: the look like bumps! Those are little muscles in at the base of every hair that contract whenever the nerves feel a cold temperature. Evolution has the perfect explanation for goose bumps. Millions of years ago, our ape ancestors still had a lot of fur. When it got cold, the muscles would contract, making the fur erect. This would keep them warmer. However, later on in the evolutionary ladder, human beings lost the fur (that's why we're called the hairless apes). Although we lost the fur, we did NOT lose the muscles. That's why we have muscles there with no fur to contract. In biology, we have a name for these types of mutations: vestigial. Vestigial structures in a living organism body (such as ourselves) have little to no effect for the organism and have lost their function through evolutionary history (another example would be our appendix). Anyway..from the perspective of the creationist, this would seem extremely bizarre. Why would Allah put muscles there but no fur to contract them? hmmm..? =O Did he put it there to test our faith in the quran? OR MAYBE HE'S TRYING TO TELL US HOW HE DID IT! So that's my question for creationists: why would Allah gives us muscles but no fur to contract them? And while you're at it, tell me why Allah put a useless appendix there? I'd like to hear some peaceful responses. Peace to all.
  18. The End Of Creationism

    Your creationist arguments have already been refuted years ago, just search the internet I won't bother typing. Harun Yahya is a proven liar, here ya go -----> ###### dot youtube dot com/watch?v=xn4ACWR0aag
  19. The End Of Creationism

    It somewhat saddens me when people like Answers in Genesis or Harun Yahya quote scientific papers to support their unscientific claims! They have done nothing to help such scientific studies and their thinking only blocks scientific progress. Do they not have any shame in what they're doing? Maybe your organization can start talking about vestigial organs and goosebumps when you start curing some diseases! Don't pray in my schools and I won't think in your Masjids.
  20. The End Of Creationism

    I always lose every debate before I even begin because I don't realize who I'm debating with. There's no point debating with religious people, they're never going to change their minds; they've been brainwashed as children. It's not an insult, it's a fact. I could have presented my arguments and you could have presented your wonderful links and I'd be pleased to debate with you all month long, but I'd just be degrading my keyboard. Hence my quote: "You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into". You weren't reasoned into Islam, you were brainwashed into it. Also, that creeping doubt of yours will never go away.
  21. The End Of Creationism

    I've given up on this argument. Creationists will just believe what they want to believe or what makes them feel comfortable, and their process, their thinking goes from irrational to just plain sad. So I don't bother with reason or evidence any more when it comes to evolution. You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.
  22. Clay Theory And Islam

    I could respond, but I'd like muslims to answer this question: Why do you believe the q0ran was inspired by g0d? Refute this: If moe was in a cave in the desert all by himself where he talked to an 'angel' and received passages, isn't it more likely that he made it up? When moe went into a cave and thought he was being attacked by a demon, isn't it more likely that he hallucinated, especially considering that he was in a hot desert and probably dehydrated? Also consider that the q0ran was written down years after moe received these passages, so isn't it highly likely that the human who wrote it down made some mistakes? I think you people worship a book more than you worship a god...
  23. Clay Theory And Islam

    Also, I know they did. But philosophies like: didn't help. If the q0ran mentions these things, why didn't any muslim point it out hundreds of years ago? It's more likely that scientists discover things, then you pick out your favourite verse, interpret it in your favourite way, then claim it's a divine miracle. Your thinking is illogical and predictable.
  24. Clay Theory And Islam

    Thanks for proving my point.
  25. Clay Theory And Islam

    No. You think I don't know about muslim scholars, academics, scientists, inventors and nobel prize winners? There are smart religious people. When it comes to 95% of things in their lives, religious people think normally. But when it comes to their 'god box', or religion, religious people pretty much drop their brain in the trash bin. Example: If some stranger comes up to you, in the middle of nowhere, and tells you that he talked to an angel in the middle of the desert who instructed him to take your money, would you comply? No, you wouldn't. So why do you behave differently towards your religion? cuz you were brainwashed when you were a kid.