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  1. A Prayer For Fasting

    I wanted to offer a prayer for all those who will be fasting during the Islamic Holy month of Ramadan. [content removed by admin] (Baha'u'llah, Prayers and Meditations by Baha'u'llah, p. 79)
  2. Would You Marry Someone You Met Online?

    Yes I would given the right values
  3. Us Elections 2012

    I would love to meet you and have tea or coffee. :) Name the place.. I am free to travel anywhere in the US on the 28th. :) I feel a pleasant conversation is in order between you, most noble Aligarr, and myself, the self-seeking parasite (sycophant).
  4. Us Elections 2012

    I am glad I don't know you personally. You took one simple sentence about Romney and Obama and just... went off. Really, if you have nothing constructive and sensible to post without attacking others, just don't write. Just because you are online does not mean you can automatically grow a "pair." There is no way you could do this in person with anyone and garner any respect or anyone who would care to listen.
  5. Us Elections 2012

    Yeah.. all the rules Congress created to ensure a dominance of only two parties should be considered unconstitutional.
  6. Us Elections 2012

    Hey.. how about that whole Romney versus Obama election. :)
  7. So.. let's stir the pot a little further. Why isn't the Baha'i Faith from God? I know this religion is not allowed to be discussed, but if the topic is "Why Islam is the only from God" then this means a comparison is being made with all the other religions.
  8. Here are the forum rules for Gawaher which applies to the discussion of other religions or possibly the search for truth 4. Posting anti-Islamic link or offensive content > 1 point 8. Disrespecting a forum official > 1 point 11. Making a sect related post > 1 point 16. Starting a topic to preach another faith > 1 point 18. Posting what wrongfully gives Islam a bad name > 1 point 20. Showing no interest in learning about Islam, or consistently attacking Muslims/Islam > 1 point The key to rule #4 is that depending on the IF moderator, offensive can be a broad scope. In my year plus on the forum, I have seen this interpreted strictly and sometimes less strict. Different people are offended by different things. Rule #8 I only included because forum officials seem to have the unrestricted ability to disrespect forum users. I have seen much name calling and personal attacks, often from IF Guardians or other specially classified groups within here. When this behavior occurs during the discussion of religion recognized by the administrators, it does now allow effective discussion of views which go against the forum consensus. It creates anger, hostility, and no truth ends up being discussed in a responsible way. Rule #11 also has a broad scope. Once I related some history which touched upon both Sunni and Shi'a history and was given advisement by an administrator that I am on the verge of violating this rule. Discussing the totality of Islamic history and theology is thus impossible as many sources are not allowed. Rule #16 would not allow a Catholic or member of any other religion to come here to preach their religion. The purpose of the forum, stated quite clearly, is for people to learn about Islam, well Islam as per the consensus of the forum administrators. Rule #18 has a very broad scope. The use wrongfully goes hand in hand with the limitation of posting things which could give Islam a bad name, even if it is justified by the concerns of a true seeker. Topics get closed and people are warned if the discussion cannot be turned around. Take for example a topic I started about “Salafism” which is not banned on this forum. Yet, the topic was closed within 2 days. Honest discussions which could shed a negative light on modern day Sunni Islam are difficult to have, if at all. Rule #20 I have been accused of repeatedly on here for teaching what I believe the Qur'an says, due to my interpretation and independent reasoning going against the consensus. All this without attacking any person and praising God, the Qur'an, and His Messengers. The key is I was not very open to Sunni Islam. All of this has resulted in me working within the forum to teach what I believe without expressing fully what I believe. If I had continued, I would also have been banned, as I had been warned before. Any person who enjoys this forum, is a Muslim, and expects a different treatment on other religious forums should not be surprised to be banned. As I have noticed on this forum, there are many people, Muslims and non-Muslims, who are quite belligerent and insulting.
  9. The Return Of Jesus

    As most in here believe Jesus will be back as part of the Last Day prophecies and its fulfillment, tell me How will you know that it is in fact Jesus? The first time He came, most disbelieved.
  10. The Return Of Jesus

    Not to be fickle, but the Masjid referred to in Damascus, the great Masjid, was built during the Umayyad Caliphate, well after the Seal of the Prophet ascended to heaven. Abu Huraira became a governor during this time. I have a hard time believing this narration and in my opinion, was wrongly attributed to the Prophet. Also, Damascus and this Masjid were never mentioned or referred to in the Qur'an. I cannot find which verses this clarifies.
  11. Us Elections 2012

    Socialism is built into the government as the Constitution states the role of government is to protect the welfare of the people. It allows taxation to help it seek the welfare within its open framework. However, as you know, socialism has many varying steps and degrees. We are not as socialistic as Scandinavia but we definitely do not have a perfect capitalism, either. Wage regulations, utility regulations, progressive taxation, social agenda taxation, and subsidies ensure the market is far from free. However imperfect Socialism is, it is really the only true combination of government and politics which has ensured a highly developed economy for the long term. The more free the market, the less confidence people have to spend. Perhaps the measure of economic success should change. Otherwise, socialism is the only solution for current economic success.
  12. I am sure this advice is not really useful for a woman who clearly loves her husband.
  13. Either way, the Word is so closely associated with God and His creative Spirit that they can easily be considered inseparable. The Word has always existed as long as God has existed and all creation exists solely through God and His Word. So I still agree with the opening of the Gospel of John which says in the beginning was the Word. Whether or not the close of the sentence should be read as "God" or "divine" does not change the essence of the subject. The Word was God or the Word was Divine does not change Christianity.
  14. Islamic Billiboards Around Karachi

    The question then, is if the marketing program is successful and increases sales, what does that say about the general population of Karachi? Marketers cannot be blamed for appealing to the choices a people desire to make. For those who don't like it, they have the option of not buying the products advertised as a stance on their values.
  15. Did The Disciples Die For A Lie?

    Perhaps. I agree there has been some tampering of the Biblical texts. However, I also believe in this principle. If God's message was altered so much that the people who believe could not have the proper guidance, then this would also make God's favor to mankind imperfect. We see repeatedly in the Qur'an that God's favor was made perfect through Moses, Joseph, Abraham, etc. Yes people mess things up, which continues today, but what is needed is still with the people. About contradictory concepts within the Bible, start a new thread for one of the biggest ones you have and I bet I can come up with an explanation that has not yet been presented in this forum. You may not believe or accept my explanation but my purpose is to show there are multiple ways to seek the meaning of one word, phrase, or concept. The depths of knowledge and wisdom are infinite.
  16. I met a member of this family recently. She recommended I read this. I decided to share.... http://www.immigrantconnect.org'>http://www.immigrantconnect.org/2011/12/20/lessons-in-discrimination-mariya-memories-of-baghdad/'>http://www.immigrantconnect.org/2011/12/20/lessons-in-discrimination-mariya-memories-of-baghdad/ - Immigrant Connect - http://www.immigrantconnect.org - Lessons in discrimination: Mariya’s memories of Baghdad Posted By merchant On 12/20/2011 [at] 7:26 am In Back Home,Family,Fearing the Law,What's New | No Comments The man on the far right in the white shirt and blue jeans is one of the cousins who was kidnapped. When her youngest son Elmar came home one day in Iraq, he started to mimic Muslim prayer traditions. He laid out a carpet on their floor to pray, and washed his hands and feet. As a devout Assyrian Christian, his mother, Mariya,* was shocked. The shock and anger deepened when Mariya discovered that Elmar learned the traditions from his teachers at school. Mariya says that her kids would tell her they didn’t know how to act and that their religious beliefs were caught in the middle. Audio clip: Adobe Flash Player (version 9 or above) is required to play this audio clip. Download the latest version here. You also need to have JavaScript enabled in your browser. Mariya recalls the taunts. Many of the memories Mariya has of her homeland lead down two tracks: her children and her Christian faith. The two collided back in Iraq, where Mariya’s children often faced persecution at their schools because of their religion. The intimidation usually went unpunished and sometimes perpetuated by their teachers. “Every day, Muslims tell, ‘This country is not for Christians, this is for Islams,”’ she says. For Mariya, discrimination based on her Christian faith is a topic that often lurked close to home, especially after her two cousins, Remon and Admon, were kidnapped and presumably killed by Muslim terrorists. The cousins were brothers, and owned a small business, where they found a letter stating they should close shop. Because they needed money, they continued the business until they were kidnapped. After their families gave the terrorists the ransom money they demanded, Mariya’s cousins were still not returned. Mariya believes one of the reasons her cousins were targeted was because they were Christian business owners. “Till now, we don’t know anything about them,” she says. Mariya, now 43, has five children: 18-year-old Shana, 16-year-old Arkad, 14-year-old Ennana, 12-year-old Norshina and 11-year-old Elmar. Mariya attended a technology institute in Iraq and married in 1992. Before coming to the United States in 2009, the family lived in Baghdad. Her husband Andrios worked in the Iraqi Army for 12 years and later became a driver for the United Nations. However, Mariya says, both she and Andrios were jobless once former President George W. Bush brought troops to Iraq. Terrorists, Mariya adds, would kill anyone who worked for an international organization or company. Mariya turned her attention to the school system, in which her children faced injustice from faculty and bullying from classmates for their Christian beliefs. For Arkad, her oldest son, bullying often meant getting beaten up almost every day when he was about 10 years old. He says boys who were 19 or 21 would hold him so that boys his age could hit him. In order to avoid the beatings, he often played with friends at home. “The teachers treated us almost all equal,” Arkad says. “After school, people would hurt you and make fun of you because you’re Christian. In school, they can’t do anything, they’re scared of teachers.” For his older sister Shana, much of the abuse she remembers happened inside school at the hands of her teachers and classmates. If you were like Christian, Muslims would hurt you a lot,” Shana says. “So they would call you names. And sometimes they would force you to wear hijab. And they would tell us like you guys are not going to the heaven, you guys have to be Muslims. It’s our country, it’s like Muslim country, it’s not your country.” The insults, the 18-year-old explains, sometimes came from best friends. “The closest friends would tell you this,” Shana says. “They were my friends. You had to have friend with somebody.” Shana adds even though she had Muslims friends, they often felt she was different. “You’re going out with them, you’re talking to them, they still feel like you’re not with them,” she says. “They try to make me like them.” Teachers would also make it difficult for Shana to embrace her Christian religion. When her teachers taught the Quran to students, they would not allow Shana or other Christian students to leave the classroom. “When the teacher teach Quran, Assyrians should go out, should not stay in that class,” she says. “They would force us to stay in class. So maybe we can change our mind.” Along with learning the Quran, Shana was also pressured to participate in other Muslim traditions, such as fasting for Ramadan and wearing the hijab, a Muslim headscarf for girls. She says even though food was offered in school during Ramadan for Christian students, she still felt she could not eat without being harassed by her Muslim classmates. “For students, it was bad for you because if you eat and drink in front of other students, they will get mad at you.” Shana says. “And you will be in trouble with students, not with teachers.” Although Shana often told her mother about what she experienced at school, she says her mother couldn’t do anything about the bullying. Even if her mother approached school officials with complaints, she says, they would either do nothing or give a lecture that would later be dismissed by classmates. “You don’t have freedom in your country to be what you want to be,” Shana says. “My mom couldn’t do nothing. They’re like more than us. What can you do?” Basic safety couldn’t be taken for granted. Art projects the children brought with them from Baghdad. They'd submitted them in an art contest back in Iraq. “You can’t feel safety in my country,” Mariya says. “When my kids go to school every day I hug (them) because I don’t know if they came back or no.” Audio clip: Adobe Flash Player (version 9 or above) is required to play this audio clip. Download the latest version here. You also need to have JavaScript enabled in your browser. Mariya recounts that safety and religious freedom were intertwined. When Shana was about 12 years old, she says she remembers seeing a dead body on the ground while walking home from school. She could not talk or eat for a week. “That was just like a dream,” she says. “Not a good dream. I was always thinking about it, having nightmares about it. I couldn’t eat because of the blood I saw.” In order to escape the political instability and religious persecution in Iraq, Mariya and her children moved to Syria in 2008 and stayed for six months. After that stay, they were resettled in the United States, where they joined Mariya’s husband, who remained in the United States after visiting his uncle in 2007. Mariya’s family now lives in Skokie, a suburb north of Chicago, and her children attend Niles North High School and Old Orchard Junior High School.Mariya also takes child development classes at Oakton Community College in order to improve her job opportunities. She and her children agree that coming to America was beneficial. They no longer face repeated discrimination. “No one care about what you believe in, no one make fun of you because of what you believe,” Arkad says. “You have right to be anyone you want to, no one can stop you because of who you are.” ———— * Mariya preferred to not have her last name be used so it would be easier for her and her family to return to Iraq someday. Article printed from Immigrant Connect: http://www.immigrantconnect.org URL to article: http://www.immigrantconnect.org/2011/12/20/lessons-in-discrimination-mariya-memories-of-baghdad/ Click here to print. Copyright © 2010 Immigrant Connect. All rights reserved.
  17. Did The Disciples Die For A Lie?

    Doesn't the Qur'an say only those with knowledge will understand? And those who refuse, God has placed a seal upon their hearts? Perhaps the confusion is not the fault of God but within you? I am not saying this is the case but granted, as being human, we cannot understand everything unless you feel you perfectly reflect all of God's attributes.
  18. This is slightly off topic but I wonder what you gentlemen think about this idea.... In Christianity and Islam, there wasn't a definitive organization established to implement justice and the rules and regulations contained in the Holy Books. What if in place of institutionalized punishment by a government, a key feature of religious government, the believer expressed his or her repentence by volunteering for the stated punishment? I feel if a person is forced by a government to receive punishment, then the "sinner" may not be genuine in receiving it and thus possibly still liable for that wrongdoing in the afterlife. I bring this up because, thinking about Islam, once the Seal of the Prophets ascended to Heaven, Muslims believe God will not bring about any Messenger ever again. This means that unlike the Seal of the Prophets, there is no divine commands to make war, peace, judge, etc. Everything which happens now attempts to use the past examples but it does not replace the actual, real life version of divine guidance from a Messenger. What if a person who volunteers for justice on Earth in accordance to his beliefs is automatically forgiven by God? Just a thought.
  19. Yes, and all religion, to include Islam, teaches to treat people with respect and generosity. All humans were made by the same Creator.
  20. [Contest] Who Is 'the Spirit' In This Verse?

    I also believe Surah 78's Spirit is Gabriel. Which is interesting... Gabriel, who is always mentioned with either bringing a Message or helping a Messenger in some way or another is described as being back on the Day of Resurrection. Is there any mention in the Qur'an that the Spirit not being associated with a Messenger?
  21. If you "win" an argument in your terms, congratulations to you. You seem quite proud of this idea and not very humble. If this is how you desire to represent your faith, so be it. Had it ever occured that sometimes the other person just doesn't care to argue with you do to the way you argue? You clearly did not "win" versus Augustine because he still believes in what he believes in.
  22. Did The Disciples Die For A Lie?

    But you have to admit that a great many of the Hadith have nothing to do with law but often are more of a historical context. Plus, the historical details provided in the Torah, which is part of the Book, is also a part of Islam, correct? I don't believe you have the ability to judge what is from God and not from God nor the authority to question why "unnecessary" details are in God's Revelation.
  23. Did The Disciples Die For A Lie?

    Why do you value the Sunnah and Hadith?
  24. Did The Disciples Die For A Lie?

    So which is it? Abdullahfaith earlier taught there is a contradiction because the OT and NT were in contradiction. But then, when they are not in contradiction, it is because of fraud? I cannot imagine why some Muslims will go to such great lengths to dispute what God, in the Qur'an, says came from God.
  25. Does anyone in this forum, to include Muslims and Christians, realize that most of the major religions teach the exact same teachings for the refinement of the soul? Prayer and meditation, detachment, fasting, charity, the "Golden Rule," and so on and so forth? Just because a group of people focus more on dogmas and traditions does not mean the original religion did not come from God. There is only one God and only God has sent His Messengers. Each taught the same spiritual truths and many taught different outward ways to practice their faith. That is all. Everyone here is wrong who feels they have exclusive rights to truth and salvation.
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