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The Shrew

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  1. @christians: Do You Recognize This?

    samantha-g, greatings sister and God's pease be with you. Yes Jesuse did speak Aramaic along with the disciples but the Gospels were recorded in much more than Aramaic even from originality. As a example the Gospel of Saint Matthew was directed to the Jews. Would it make sence to write it in Aramaic? I would not think so. It would be much more likely to be written in Hewbrew since that was the language of the Jews. Thank you for the link in advance and other websites andtranslations. Yes translations can be messed up some times. That is why I will stick with the Catholic Church. Now I do not mean to insult you either. Now you are I admit the first none trinitarian christian I have had to convers with that still calls them self "Chrisitian" only. And not a WICCAN Christian ect.... Now this was addressed around the time of the councel of Nicia. It was called "The Arian Heresy". Now I am not saying you exactly follow this but to me from where I sit it seems to fit the mold. I am sure you can research the name if you realy wanted to so I will not insulte you with a history lesson on it as you seem very inteligent. I think I place that question mark in reference due to a over quote that had me a little beffuttlted. God's peace to you
  2. Jesus The Messiah (pbuh)

    Ok. I have read the reasons so far why Muslims deny Christ divinity. Now What about when Christ him self states that he is God.? I will sight some scripture. Saint Matthew 9:2 [2] And behold they brought to him one sick of the palsy lying in a bed. And Jesus, seeing their faith, said to the man sick of the palsy: Be of good heart, son, thy sins are forgiven thee. (Now if Jesus is not God how does he have the authority to forgive sins? Also if one continues reading into verse 3 of chapter 9 you see the scribes start murmuring about blaspheme. Then Jesus sees their thoughts in vers 4 and asks why they think evil in their hearts.) Then we can look at Saint Matthew 12:8 [8] For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath. (Now litteraly reading what Jesus is saying is he is God.) In Saint Matthew 21:3 Jesus calls himself Lord. We know when Lord is capitilized it refers to God. What about what Jesus says in Saint Matthew 26:64? [64] Jesus saith to him: Thou hast said it. Nevertheless I say to you, hereafter you shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of the power of God, and coming in the clouds of heaven. (Jesus says flat out he is the Son of God.) So what does one say when the words out of Jesus own mouth claim that he is God?
  3. Jesus The Messiah (pbuh)

    Thank you for the replies sofar. I do have to follow up on the links yet that were provided. I guess I should of titled it better. My apologies. The Quran does say he is the Messia. Now It was stated that he is the Messia and also that you believe in His second comming. So how can you deny that he is God made flesh? I guess that is what I am getting at.
  4. @christians: Do You Recognize This?

    ? May peace be with you also. Well you are free to believe as you wish. I don't need to deal with it. I find it a very odd stance. I am not condemning you. I don't care what the KJV says. It is a poor translation and flawed. You are correct in the distinciton between the word used for Isaac and Jesus. Really! Wen did that become a requirment of Christianity? The Lattin Vulgate is a perfect translation and the Douay-Rheims a perfect translation of that (the latter is my preference as my lattin is very lacking.) Though I run lexicons for greek, lattin, and hebrew. Still learning though. Seeing as english is my primary language that is my prefference. The beauty of the Holy Bible is that it was made to be translated to other languages. p.s. If you know of a Aramaic lexicon I would be interested in it. Thanks for the insult and the prayers. I will pray for you also. Many early teachers taught the trinity. Examples Justin Martyr First appology A.D. 155, Polycarp A.D. 157, and Irenaeus, Against Heresies, 4,20:1 (A.D. 180). Those are a couple. And may the peace of God be with you also.
  5. @christians: Do You Recognize This?

    What type of heresy is being expoused here? Gnosticism, Sabellianism, Monophysitism?. Take a pick of all the great heresy's. These are only three. The word trinity is not used in the Bible it self but it most definitely spells it out if one reads carfully.
  6. Basic Questions About Islam

    Thank you RAHIMI. Am I correct in a assumption of the quote above that Islam is quite "works" based? I know on the day of judgment that we will be held accountable for what we have or have not done, but do the works way heavier on our salvation or is it the faith of the person?
  7. @christians: Do You Recognize This?

    I can not say that I have seen a "mainstream" christian with this view point. From a Christian perspective it goes against the very base roots of it. Crhist's death and resurrection is esential. But so is the doctrin of the Trinity in christianity. In a christian view if you deny Christ's divinity you have just a historical fact. A man named Jesus the Nazeriene died by roman cusifixion. So the above quote I could not define a fully Christian. I don't know if I helped or confused more?
  8. Basic Questions About Islam

    Thank you Proud Muslima and RAHIMI for your very eloquent answers. I look forward to learning more. I will follow up on the links provided also. I find Islam very intriguing. I can thank conversations with a Muslim coworker for getting my interest in learning about it started. Thank you again. Next question What is swt? I know a abbreviation but for what? Saw it in Proud Muslima's response.
  9. Two Quick Questions About Christianity

    First point 1. I would like to address seeing as I am a Christian studding Islam right now. The answer to one like you said is yes but one must also utilize confession as it is not possible to be perfectly contrite. Part 2. I don't think that it depends at all. It is a i emphatic yes. Compare Exodus 3:14 and John 8:58. They draw a parallel. Jesus him self declared this himself in Matt. 28:20. Just some food for thought. Point 3. I have not seen a RCC starting to collapse yet. What evidence do you have of that? I am curious? ? What do you mean. If the Christians are drawing a negative of the Qur'an unjustly that is not good. I can not give a opinion as I have just started reading it. Unfortunately in English as I can not read Arabic.
  10. Hello

    Hello to all. I am a Catholic Christian. I find Islam very interesting. I have been learning a little from a co worker of mine. He has been quite gracious to me for that I am thankful. I want to learn more of the Islamic faith. So please be gracious to my blundering. I do not mean to offend any one. Thank you and God bless you! I look forward to learning much from you all.