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The Shrew

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  1. Muslim-Christian Debate, Here

    Well it was interesting seeing as it all pertained to ancient Egyptian gods. The things they brought up about Christianity is nothing I have not heard before, been taught, or studied for my self. But just because the Bible says so does not make it true either. Below is a link with a bunch of different stories and ideas of pagan births and various other quotes. http://www.pocm.info/pagan_ideas_virgin_birth.html
  2. Church official arrested in Vatican bank investigation Published June 28, 2013FoxNews.com An undated photo of Monsignor Nunzio Scarano in Salerno, Italy. (AP Photo/Francesco Pecoraro) A Vatican cleric was arrested along with a financial broker and a member of Italy's secret service Friday as part of an investigation into the workings of the Vatican bank. The cleric was identified as Monsignor Nunzio Scarano, who was arrested in a parish on the outskirts of Rome. Scarano had worked as an accountant in the Vatican's financial administration, but had been suspended for several weeks. Scarano's lawyer, Silverio Sica, told the Associated Press that friends had asked Scarano to intervene with the broker, identified as Giovanni Carenzio, to return 20 million euros ($26 million) they had given him to invest. Sica said Scarano persuaded Carenzio to return the money, and the Italian secret service agent, Mario Zito, went to Switzerland to bring it back aboard an Italian government aircraft. Such a move would presumably prevent any reporting of the money coming into Italy. The operation failed because Carenzio reneged on the deal, Sica said. Zito, nevertheless, demanded his 400,000 euro commission. Scarano paid him an initial 200,000 euros by check, which Zito deposited, Sica said. But in a bid to not have the second check deposited at the bank, Scarano filed a report for a missing 200,000 check, even though he knew Zito had it, Sica said. Reuters reported that Scarano had been suspended from his duties earlier this year after he was placed under investigation in his hometown of Salerno. That investigation concerns transactions Scarano made in 2009 in which he took 560,000 euros ($729,000) in cash out of his personal Vatican bank account and carried it out of the Vatican and into Italy to help pay off a mortgage on his Salerno home. To deposit the money into an Italian bank account -- and to prevent family members from finding out he had such a large chunk of cash -- he asked 56 close friends to accept 10,000 euros apiece in cash in exchange for a check or money transfer in the same amount, Sica said earlier this week. Scarano was then able to deposit the amounts in his Italian account. The original money came into Scarano's Vatican bank account from donors, who gave it to the prelate thinking they were funding a home for the terminally ill in Salerno, Sica said. He said the donors had "enormous" wealth and could offer such donations for his charitable efforts. He said Scarano had given the names of the donors to prosecutors and insisted the origin of the money was clean, that the transactions didn't constitute money-laundering, and that he only took the money "temporarily" for his personal use. The home for terminally ill hasn't been built, though the property has been identified, Sica said. "He declares himself absolutely innocent," Sica said of the Salerno investigation. Earlier this week, Pope Francis formed a commission to investigate the Vatican bank, which is officially known as the Institute for the Works of Religion and has been rocked by corruption allegations. The Associated Press contributed to this report. Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/06/28/monsignor-arrested-in-vatican-bank-investigation/#ixzz2XZC1WdE8
  3. Arrest In Vatican Bank Scandal

    I remember this being brought up at some point in another thread but I could not find it. So I just thought I would post a update.
  4. Muslim-Christian Debate, Here

    I'm not saying Jesus was not born of a virgin. What I'm saying is the story is much older than Jesus. That is all. It's not a new story. It has been told and retold long before Christianity was a glimmer of existence. I will have to get around to watching the video in a bit. Personally I'm not familiar with Egypt ancient God's as they are not part of my heritage.
  5. Muslim-Christian Debate, Here

    So many of the topics debated here are much older than either faith. The virgin birth, god's dyeing and rising. Pagan Sources for the Virgin BirthIf the virgin birth was not prophesied in the Old Testament and has no claims at all for being historical, where did the idea come from? And how did it become embedded into the Christian tradition? The answer immediately suggests itself when we turn our attention to the Gentile world where Christianity took root and flourished. The gentile cultures, religions and mythologies during the time of Christian beginnings around the first century CE were filled with stories of divine incarnation. For example in the Greek myth, Perseus was born of the virgin Danae. Danae was conceived by the God Zeus who took the form of a shower of gold. [6] In another Greek myth Dionysius was born of the virgin Semele. Semele was impregnated by Zeus with a bolt of lightning. And in almost all the popular mystery religions [a] around the Meditteranean, the beliefs of the uneducated masses, the divine personalities are born of virgins. For example, Horus, a major god of the Egyptian mystery religion, was born of the virgin Isis (like Jesus in Luke, Horus was also born in a stable). And Mithra, an derivative of the Persian sun-worship, whose cult rivalled Christianity during the first few centuries of its existence, was conceived when God himself, in the form of light, entered a virgin. Phoenecian mythology had Adonis being born of the virgin Myrrh. [7] The popular culture also ascribed to many famous men miraculous, divine and, sometimes, even virgin birth. [8] Thus the emperor Augustus, the reigning sovereign during the time of Jesus, was reputedly miraculously begotten when a snake descended upon his mother in the temple of Apollo. [9] So too, Romulus, the legendary founder of Rome, was born of a vestal virgin. [10] It was therefore to be expected, in fact inevitable, that Christianity, which vied for converts with these mystery religions, would itself be imbued with such mythological elements. It could happen in many ways. The Christians, desiring to provide conclusive vindication of their faith in the divine nature of Jesus, would naturally turn to the signs that were accepted in the culture as proofs of divinity. [11] New converts from the mystery religions would also naturally carry the mythological baggage from their previous beliefs. source http://www.rejectionofpascalswager.net/virgin.html Just thought I would through something different in here disregard it if you think it derails the thread.
  6. Home Made Cheese

    Homemade Fresh Ricotta Cheese in 15 minutes :) ~Frisky INGREDIENTS 4 cups whole milk One cup buttermilk 1/3 cup heavy cream Coarse salt DIRECTIONS 1. Line a fine mesh strainer with several folds of cheesecloth and set it in your sink. 2. Combine milk, buttermilk and cream in medium heavy saucepan over medium-high heat. Bring to a boil until cooking thermometer registers 185 degrees...if you don't have a thermometer, keep an eye on it to see when the curds (the solid white parts) are mostly separated from the whey (the cloudy liquid). This will take about 10 minutes...stir a couple of times during the boiling process. 3. Remove from heat and using a slotted spot, scoop spoonfuls of the curd into the cheesecloth-lined strainer, sprinkling with a little salt every few spoonfuls or so. 4. Let the ricotta drain for about 5 minutes and then taste to check the consistency. If you like it drier, then let it drain a little more. If you like it moister, stir in a tablespoon or two of milk. This ricotta is best used right away, but will keep for a day or two in the fridge.
  7. Home Made Cheese

    Ya know in all my ramblings with the cheese I did not note the yield. I don't worry about fats. I live by the motto of eat what you like in reasonable amounts and be very active. That means all the food groups for me though and to me fat is part of a food group. LOL
  8. Golomki (Stuffed Cabbage)

    Ingredients: 1 large cabbage 1/2 cup brown rice 1 sweet red pepper (chopped) 1 large onion (chopped) 6 cloves garlic (chopped) 1 pound ground meat (beef) 2 eggs 2 cans diced tomatos (14.5oz or 411 grams) 1 Table spoon Lemon basil salt 2 teaspoons mustartd powder 1 Table spoon lemon pepper Directions Remove core of cabbage and place in large pot of boiling water, simmer until tender. cook rice Saute onion and peppers until soft mix meat, cooked rice, onion, peppers, eggs and seasoning in a large bowl. line a 13in by 9in pan with cabbage leaves fill remaining leaves with mixture folding to enclose cover with more leaves pour tomatoes on top incuding juice. Place in a 225 degree Fahrenheit oven or 107 deg Celsius bake 40-60 min
  9. Golomki (Stuffed Cabbage)

    I'm sure this dish has many names. It is a wonderful simple dish with many variations. Enjoy!!
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  14. Pope Washes Feet Of Young Muslim Woman

    I'm not familiar with the situation where you live. I live in the states. How are they posing like Muslims or Hindus? It is not my job to convince you of the actions of the Pope. As far as sins are concerned, I can and will include you and all Muslims lumped in with every other sinner in the world. For all mankind was made in the image of God. You also can not judge a religion, a country, or a race of people by the actions of a minority. Do you really need me to dig up stories of Muslim clerics who are not any better. I'm sure you don't. Now as for those who cheat and earn money by being corrupt and deceitful they will have to answer to God for those actions. The same will go for those who abuse others. Now I am going to ask you to show my religion some respect by capitalizing God as there is only one and He created the heavens, the earth, the plants and animals, and humans and God is one. I am respectful to Islam I ask the same in return. I am not asking you to agree with my beliefs on a personal level but some respect would be nice. Thank you and peace be with you
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  16. Islam And Mormonism

    Now Islam came Before the Mormons. What I find sort of is that Joseph Smith the founder of Mormonism seemed to pull a page so to speak from Islams playbook (forgive the poor metaphor). There was a article written in 1989 in the Salt Lake City Messenger. It discusses it and gives it from a Mormon prospective. Please note I am not a Mormon nor endorse their church. The RCC does not view them as Christian. What do you think of the article and or what Mormons claim. Here is the link http://www.utlm.org/newsletters/no71.htm So did Joseph Smith try and "ripoff" Islam? Quite Possibly.
  17. Atheist Hate Preacher Sam Harris

    Sam Harris in my opinion is a fear mongering radical in his own right. Does he have a right to speak his opinion yes. Just as others have a right to speak over him with opposite opinions. Sam Harris in my opinion has dangerous ideas of his own. One of which was listed by Zamzam above. Sam Harris does not have the correct idea and is a radical atheist. Just my opinion though.
  18. Islam And Mormonism

    I completely agree con artist. I recently had the experience of some of the local missionaries coming around. I now own their book. Actually read part of it. And after about four discussions they were nicely told that they were viewed as a polytheistic cult. There missionaries also love to help out when needed. I think they use that as part of their gimmick to lure people in.
  19. Outside Burmese And Sri Lankan Embassies

    Well done and well organised.
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