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  1. Why argue? ... Move over ... Oh, can I have some? Wanna borrow my 3-D glasses?
  2. Jesus kept His Divinity secret …[using large font size is not allowed] “His brothers therefore said to Him, ‘Depart from here and go into Judea, that Your disciples also may see the works that You are doing. For no one does anything in secret while he himself seeks to be known openly. If You do these things, show Yourself to the world.’ For even His brothers did not believe in Him.†-- John 7:3-5 1) – by always speaking in parables “But without a parable He did not speak to them (the multitudes). And when they were alone, He explained all things to His disciples.†-- Mark 4:34 “To you (disciples) it has been given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God, but to the rest it is given in parables, that ‘Seeing they may not see, and hearing they may not understand.’ †-- Luke 8:10 2) – by insisting that it NOT be told to others He instructed demons to NOT say who He really was -- Mark 1:23-25, 1:34, 3:11-12 He healed people, but told them NOT to tell anyone --- Matt 8:1-4, Mark 1:40-44, Luke 5:12-15 He told his disciples, but said NOT to tell anyone ------- Matt 16:20, Mark 8:29-30, Luke 9:20-22 3) – by NOT speaking of it to the multitudes Anyone teaching this “up front†to the unsaved will usually be called a crazy person. Even today, some “Christians†see the Bible verses, but somehow don’t believe them! 4) – exceptions: a few people knew about His claims Jesus claiming Deity was clear enough to the Jewish leaders, causing them to want to kill Him. He told His disciples that He and the Holy Spirit were Deity, but it was way over their heads. The reason He told them these things is given in the Comments below. Reasons WHY Jesus kept His Divinity secret …[using large font size is not allowed] #1 – His humilty prevented Him from declaring Himself openly â€â€¦ Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery (*) to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross.†(Philippians 2:6-8) (*) He did not wish to cling to, use, take advantage of … His equality with God. #2 – Large crowds could hinder His ministry at times “And when Jesus saw great multitudes about Him, He gave a command to depart to the other side (of the lake).†-- Matthew 8:18 “Immediately Jesus made His disciples get into the boat and go before Him to the other side, while He sent the multitudes away.†-- Matthew 14:22 #3 – The Holy Spirit was NOT available to reveal spiritual Truth The Holy Spirit was NOT given to believers until after Jesus ascended to heaven (John 14:16-26). Some of Jesus’ disciples would NOT listen to His claims without condemning Him: “And He said, ‘Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by my Father.’ From that time many of His disciples went back and walked with Him no more.†-- John 6:65-66 Back then, as today, people simply cannot comprehend a dual-God (or triple-God) concept. If non-believers regard the simple gospel as “foolishness†(1 Corinthians 1:18), any mention of God walking around on the earth will be regarded as even more ridiculous. Comments 1) -- “The Spirit if the Lord is upon Me because he has anointed Me to preach the gospel to the poor†-- Luke 4:18 Notice that Jesus did NOT say He was anointed to get anyone saved … because the Holy Spirit was NOT yet present to convict anyone of spiritual Truth. 2) -- Jesus told His disciples about who He was privately … so that later (when they were born again) the Holy Spirit could bring it to their remembrance, and they would make sure that His words were recorded for posterity. 3) -- There are only 2 causes for people to believe that Jesus Christ was/is God – being born into this religious doctrine via family, society, etc. (i.e. blind faith) – being given this revelation by God Himself via the Holy Spirit
  3. Christianity Simplified

    Yeah, you've really got it ... good Christians should be a-tellin' da Truth, whatever the cost. Jesus did. All of this stuff about the Catholic church wanting to sleep with Protestants is frankly more than I can handle. P.S. Just got kicked off a Christian forum (run partially by Catholics) for bringing up the octopus thing, the prayin' to Mary thing, etc. The Mod (who did me the favor) said his reason was I hate Catholics! Hating doctrinal error is hating the people caught up in it. Okay. I hate homosexuality, but I have homosexual friends (P.S. I don't hate 'em). Try to point out obvious errors to someone and you get crucified. Remind you of someone? Than you, Mods, for allowin' me to vent. Send me your bill.
  4. Christianity Simplified

    Question #1 to you is: In which mental institution do you currently reside? My reason: I'd like to send you a Christmas card (it's August, but you won't know the difference). Question #2 to you is: I'm sure you preach that all Catholics hold to the same doctrine (you know, directly from the Vatican, etc.) ... Yes, thank you, I heard your hearty "Amen". So, why do some Catholics pray to mary and the saints religiously, and others don't pray to them at all? NOTE TO ALL: Roman Catholism is like a giant octupus with many tentacles, which resemble the many different doctrines believed in by Catholics all over the world. But, show some love to Augustine. He's institutionalized, so he's not expected to know this.
  5. Did Jesus Really Claim To Be God?

    You said you gave up taking me seriously ... you said you chose to believe the educated guy. You more or less told me to get lost. Is it my fault that you don't believe in the gospel (good news) of Jesus Christ? Forget the Trinity ... focus on the good news. Obviously the Trinity is not good news for anybody. That's why it was never part of the gospel. Because no one understand this is not my fault.
  6. Did Jesus Really Claim To Be God?

    Like I sayd, yu nevr wer born again. Y yu keep talkin' Trinity again? Try dancin yu mite like it. If yu hav 1 question, I can due bettr wit my engleesh.
  7. Did Jesus Really Claim To Be God?

    Foist of oil ... da Trinity is not part of da gospel of Jesus Christ, i.e. He never preached it to da multitudes. So, da Trinity is just a super-duper excuse for da peoples to reject Christianity. Secund of oil ... maye yu jus dont understand ... “For My thoughts are not your thoughts, nor are your ways My waysâ€, says the Lord. “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways, and My thoughts (higher) than your thoughts.†(Isaiah 55:8-9) Duz dis mayk any sens dat dis cud be a problem for youse? Thurd of all da oils ... you obviously were never born again wit da Holy Spitit IN yu, teachin' yu all tings.
  8. Did Jesus Really Claim To Be God?

    Ar yu serioso? When yur God, and yur a-walkin' 'round on duh earth in a human body, duh ... I guess yu have a dual character, or a dual something. El ditto-reeneeo, if one of the duh udder 2 did the same.
  9. Did Jesus Really Claim To Be God?

    Tonnyj, We have verses such as these: John 10:30 “I and My Father are one.†John 10:38 “the Father is in Me, and I in Him.†John 14:9 “He who has seen Me has seen the Father†John 17:22 “We are one†But, no one is forcing you to believe them.
  10. Christianity Simplified

    Tonnyj, I was raised in T.O. and went to Mt. A. for 4 years. Sorry, that's about all I know these days.
  11. Did Jesus Really Claim To Be God?

    Tonnyj, No so-called "expert" theologian impresses me one iota. Because intellect, education, logic, etc. have absolutely nothing to do with spiritual truth from God. These fleshly things are the total opposite to spiritual things. I've been working on this in my spare time (not finished yet) ... First, it’s not necessary for the 3 "Persons" of the Triune God to all be in the same verse. In seeing these passages in their true light, one needs to be aware of the many other Scripture verses that reveal who these 3 "Persons" are. I.E. Every passage cannot go into a detailed explanation of who the 3 "Persons" are, and everything needs to be understood in the context of the entire Bible. Isaiah 48:12-16 “Listen to Me, O Jacob, and israel, My called: I am He, I am the First, I am also the Last. Indeed My hand has laid the foundation of the earth, and My right hand has stretched out the heavens … I, even I, have spoken; yes, I have called him, I have brought him, and his way will prosper.†“Come near to Me, hear this: I (Jesus) have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, I was there, and now the Lord GOD and His Spirit have sent Me.†Note: Father God promises to come to His people in the form of His Servant Jesus Matthew 3:16-17 “When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him. And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, ‘his is My beloved Son, in whom I (the Father) am well pleased.’ †Matthew 28:19 “Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit …†Luke 1:35 “The Holy Spirit will come upon you (Jesus), and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God.†John 14:26 “But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My (Jesus) name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you. John 15:26 “But when the Helper comes, whom I (Jesus) shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me.†Acts 2:38-39 “Then Peter said to them, ‘Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God (the Father) will call.’ †Ephesians 4:4-6 “There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.â€
  12. Did Jesus Really Claim To Be God?

    A couple of weeks ago, I said I was struggling with "fully God" because Jesus demonstrated His total dependence on the Father and on the Holy Spirit. Since then, this has been cleared up! I thought I passed on the info here. God the Son (name/title only) incarnated into a human called Jesus Christ. This Jesus Christ was "fully man" and "fully God". It was the perfect sinless "fully man" part of Messiah who was the sacrifice. Because a sinless human HAD TO BE the sacrifice. I'm still struggling with WHY he also needed to be "fully God". No one ever said that God (e.g. the Triune God) was totally understandable. Sorry that you expect me to be some kind of genius. I'm a-doin' my best, pal. .
  13. Did Jesus Really Claim To Be God?

    Tonnyj, You’re correct about James 1:13 … God cannot be tempted by evil. But, what about the "fully man" part of Jesus? Man can be tempted. Jesus was “fully man†… as man was before A&E’s fall. Everyone after that had the sin nature … except Jesus … who did not inherit it from Joseph (because of the Holy Spirit). In one sense, Jesus couldn’t be totally “fully God†because He also was “fully man†who can be killed. God didn’t need to be sacrificed … just a sinless man needed to be sacrificed. The Triune God wanted to experience the totality of being a human. That’s the one reason Jesus became “fully Godâ€. But, apparently there are other reasons as well (I’m struggling with these). Re: sacrifices … the OT is the Old Covenant, and there are differences in the New Covenant. In the OT, they offered the most unblemished animals for sacrifice. Later, God said He was weary of all of this killing of bulls and goats. The New Covenant used an absolutely PERFECT Sacrifice. Not only was it a human without sin, but “fully God†as well. Unbelieveable. The Sacrifice was not to us. The Sacrifice was to God … for us (i.e. on our behalf).
  14. Did Jesus Really Claim To Be God?

    Tonnyj ... Is this all you have so far? Who knows if God can be tempted or not? Ask Him. He does have free will like us, right? Do I know everything? Am I God? Jesus was a human called/named “Jesusâ€. So, we’re talking here about the man Jesus. The reason for the Holy Spirit being Jesus’ Father was to produce this sinless man. If Joseph had been Jesus’ father, Jesus would have had man’s sin nature. This proves that the sin nature is passed down through the male sperm, and it did not come through Mary (via her blood, or?). Now, this sinless man had to prove to everyone that he always overcame temptation. And because he did live a sinless life, he was qualified to be your substitute and die for your sins. God's Plan-A was about producing a sinless man who could (and did) live “without sinâ€. God’s Plan-B was for Jesus to also be “fully Godâ€. And I don’t know the reason for Plan-B ... except it sure makes everything more impressive that it actually was God who died for your sins.
  15. Did Jesus Really Claim To Be God?

    No matter how many times I post this, people just don't get it. But, since it's a bad habit of mine, here it comes again ... “For My thoughts are not your thoughts, nor are your ways My waysâ€, says the Lord. “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways, and My thoughts (higher) than your thoughts.†(Isaiah 55:8-9) Tonnyj, Did you find a lot of answers (in the other thread) to the questions you asked me? If not, there still there a-waitin' for you. They haven't run away anywhere.
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