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  1. Ratko Mladic Arrested

    Serbia arrests Mladic on war crimes charges By DUSAN STOJANOVIC Associated Press BELGRADE, Serbia — After 16 years on the run, a frail and haggard Ratko Mladic was hauled before a judge Thursday — the first step in facing charges for international war crimes, including the slaughter of 8,000 Muslim men and boys in the Bosnian town of Srebrenica in 1995. No longer the fearsome, bull-necked military commander, Mladic was arrested by intelligence agents in a raid before dawn at a relative's house in a village in northern Serbia. The act was trumpeted by the government as a victory for a country worthy of European Union membership and Western embrace. Mladic, 69, was one of the world's most-wanted fugitives. He was the top commander of the Bosnian Serb army during Bosnia's 1992-95 war, which killed more than 100,000 people and drove another 1.8 million from their homes. Thousands of Muslims and Croats were killed, tortured or driven out in a campaign to purge the region of non-Serbs. He was accused by the U.N. International Criminal Tribunal in The Hague, Netherlands, of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes for the massacre of Muslims by Bosnian Serb forces in eastern Bosnia and the relentless four-year siege of Sarajevo. On Thursday evening, Mladic walked haltingly into a closed-door extradition hearing in Belgrade, where he asserted through his attorney that he will not answer to the authority of the U.N. tribunal. The former military commander wore a navy blue jacket and a baseball hat — his gray hair sticking out of the sides — and carried what appeared to be a towel in his left hand. He could be heard on state TV saying "good day" to someone in the courtroom, and a guard told him, "Let's go, general." Mladic's lawyer, Milos Saljic, said the judge cut short the questioning because his client's "poor physical state" left him unable to communicate. Advertise | AdChoices "He is aware that he is under arrest, he knows where he is, and he said he does not recognize The Hague tribunal," Saljic said, adding that Mladic needs medical care and "should not be moved in such a state." Belgrade B-92 radio said one of Mladic's arms was paralyzed — probably the result of a stroke. Deputy war crimes prosecutor Bruno Vekaric said that Mladic is taking a lot of medicine, but "responds very rationally to everything that is going on." Extradition proceedings could take a week or more before Mladic's expected transfer to The Hague, where he faces life imprisonment. The U.N. court has no death penalty. Judge Fouad Riad of the U.N. tribunal said there was evidence against Mladic of "unimaginable savagery." "Thousands of men executed and buried in mass graves, hundreds of men buried alive, men and women mutilated and slaughtered, children killed before their mothers' eyes, a grandfather forced to eat the liver of his own grandson," Riad said during Mladic's 1995 indictment in absentia. International law experts hope the arrest will send a message to figures like Libya's Moammar Gadhafi that no leader charged with a war crime can expect to escape justice forever. "Impunity has really been withdrawn from war criminals," said Richard Goldstone, the prosecutor in the 1995 indictment. "It's a very different world, and the prospects of them standing trial one day have been heightened considerably." Obama, meeting with other world leaders at the G8 summit in France, hailed the arrest. "May the families of Mladic's victims find some solace in today's arrest, and may this deepen the ties among the people of the region," he said. U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said it marked "an important step in our collective fight against impunity." In Bosnia, the arrest was welcomed by the head of a group of victims' relatives. "I'm sorry for all the victims who are dead and cannot see this day," added Munira Subasic. The Serbian government, which has changed mightily while Mladic was at large, banned all public gatherings and tightened security in the country to prevent ultra-nationalists from making good on pledges to pour into the streets in protest. The Serbian Radical Party called Mladic a "hero" and described his seizure as "one of the hardest moments in Serbian history." The extreme-right group 1389 said the arrest was "treason." Hundreds of pro-Mladic demonstrators in the northern city of Novi Sad tried to break into the offices of the governing Democratic Party but were prevented by riot police. At least two people were reported injured. President Boris Tadic appeared jubilant at a news conference announcing Mladic's capture. "We have ended a difficult period of our history and removed the stain from the face of Serbia and the members of our nation wherever they live," he said. A Serbian official close to Tadic told The Associated Press that the president had personally overseen the arrest operation, and compared it to President Barack Obama's involvement in the hunt for Osama bin Laden. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the topic. But the raid in the village of Lazarevo, 60 miles (100 kilometers) northeast of Belgrade, was no Navy SEAL operation and the Serbian intelligence agents didn't have to fire a shot. Mladic had two pistols with him in the single-story yellow brick house, but put up no resistance, officials said. "They didn't even wake us up," said a resident who identified himself only as Zoran for fear of retaliation. He and other residents of the village of 2,000 people insisted they had no idea Mladic was living in their midst — not that they would have minded. "I'm furious," Zoran said. "They arrested our hero." Many residents came out to defend Mladic, waving Serb and Russian flags on Lazarevo's narrow tree-lined streets. They blocked the road with a trailer, demanded that no camera lenses be pointed at the house, and told journalists to leave. A sign reading "Mladic Hero" rose at the entrance of the village. Advertise | AdChoices Police moved up to the edge of the village, fearing violence, but there was none. The arrest releases Serbia from the widespread suspicion it was protecting Mladic. U.N. war crimes prosecutor Serge Brammertz was due next month to give the world body a report critical of Serbia's lack of cooperation with the hunt for Mladic and other fugitives. The Netherlands had used such reports to justify blocking Serbia's efforts to join the EU, and the arrest could help Serbia shed its image as a pariah state that sheltered the men responsible for the worst atrocities of the Balkan wars of the 1990s. Serbia still faces many obstacles to EU membership, and new laws would be required on everything from farming to financial markets. It might also have to recognize the independence of Kosovo, a former Serbian province, and capture another war crimes fugitive, Goran Hadzic. Hadzic, a former leader of Serbs in Croatia, is the last of 161 people sought by the tribunal. "If the question is whether Serbia is closer today to the European Union than it was yesterday, yes, the answer is absolutely yes," EU Enlargement Commissioner Stefan Fuele said. But he said other conditions to membership remain. Among the horrors Mladic is charged with, foremost is the July 1995 slaughter of up to 8,000 Muslim men and boys in Srebrenica, which was supposed to be a safe zone guarded by Dutch peacekeepers. Mladic seized the town and was seen handing candy to Muslim children in the town's square. He assured them everything would be fine and patted one boy on the head. Hours later, his men began days of killing, rape and torture. The Dayton accords brought peace to Bosnia in 1995, and the following year Mladic was dismissed from his post. He continued to live in Bosnia, until his trail grew too hot and he moved with his family to Belgrade in the late 1990s, living free in a posh suburban villa. Even as Mladic allies such as Radovan Karadzic and Slobodan Milosevic were brought to The Hague, the former military leader was idolized and sheltered by ultra-nationalists and ordinary Serbs despite a 10 million euro ($14 million) Serbian government bounty, plus $5 million more offered by the U.S. State Department. Mladic was known to have made daring forays into Belgrade to watch soccer games, dine at plush restaurants and visit his daughter's grave. He refused to give interviews and smiling quizzically when he happened to be photographed. When Serbia ousted strongman Milosevic in 2000, the new pro-democracy authorities signaled they might hand Mladic over to the tribunal, and he was rumored to have returned to Bosnia. But the flamboyant Mladic went mostly underground in 2002. Although there were media reports he brazenly used the alias Milorad Komadic, an anagram of his true identity, Interior Minister Ivica Dacic denied it. Authorities recorded the last trace of Mladic living in Belgrade in January 2006, said Rasim Ljajic, a member of a government team hunting the ex-general. "And then," Ljajic said, "he vanished."
  2. Report: Iran Building Rocket Bases in Venezuela Monday, 16 May 2011 09:04 PM Associated Press BERLIN – The Iranian government is moving forward with the construction of rocket launch bases in Venezuela, according to the German daily Die Welt. Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is Teheran’s most important South American ally. Iran is building intermediate- range missile launch pads on the Paraguaná Peninsula, and engineers from a construction firm – Khatam al-Anbia – owned by the Revolutionary Guards visited Paraguaná in February. Amir al-Hadschisadeh, the head of the Guard’s Air Force, participated in the visit, according to the report. Die Welt cited information from “Western security insiders.†The rocket bases are to include measures to prevent air attacks on Venezuela as well as commando and control stations. The Iranian military involvement in the project extends to bunker, barracks and watch tower construction. Twenty-meter deep rocket silos are planned. The cost of the Venezuelan military project is being paid for with Iranian oil revenue. The Iranians paid in cash for the preliminary phase of the project and, the total cost is expected to amount to “dozens of millions†of dollars, Die Welt wrote. The Paraguaná Peninsula is on the coast of Venezuela and is roughly 120 kilometers from America’s main South American partner, Columbia. According to Die Welt, the clandestine agreement between Venezuela and Iran would mean the Chavez government would fire rocket at Iran’s enemies should the Islamic Republic face military strikes. Meanwhile the German press agency (DPA) reported on Friday that Germany will not contest the placement of the Hamburg- based European- Iranian Trade Bank (EIH) on the EU sanctions list at the end of the month. The US Treasury Department sanctioned the EIH last year, saying it was one of the most important institutions in Europe for financing Iran’s missile and nuclear proliferation programs. Germany was the subject of criticism from American, French, British and israeli officials because it refused to shut the EIH. The EIH plays a crucial role in facilitating financial transactions for midsize German firms that are active in Iran. German- Iranian total trade amounted to over 4 billion euros in 2010, making German Iran’s No. 1 EU trade partner. U.S. missles versus Iranian missles ? HAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!! :sl:
  3. It's All Your Money: U.S. Aid to Pakistan by William LaJeunesse May 16, 2011 Foreign aid is always controversial, especially at a time when the United States is broke, when U.S. government audits show that the money given to other nations is wasted and misused and when countries that receive the money frankly don’t like the United States. The latest country under scrutiny is Pakistan. More than $20 billion has been given to Pakistan since Sept. 11, 2001. President Obama is proposing almost $3 billion in aid for the supposed ally in the War on Terror for fiscal year 2012. That includes: - $1.6 billion for police and military; - $150 million for what the State Department calls "good government and democracy building"; - $122 million for health, AIDS and "family planning"; - $145 million for education. The rest goes to economic development and humanitarian assistance. Despite all of the aid given to Pakistan, polls show the country has a negative view of the U.S. A 2010 BBC poll found that 52 percent of Pakistanis don’t like the U.S. A majority oppose U.S. drone strikes against the Taliban, and the Pakistani Parliament on Saturday Now with the recent discovery and death of Usama bin Laden, some U.S. lawmakers are questioning why we continue to support the nation that may have harboring the most wanted terrorist. Congressman Dana Rohrabacher(R-Cal), who serves on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, has introduced a bill to cut off aid completely. Rohrabacher believes the discovery of bin Laden’s compound is proof that Pakistan’s leaders have been enabling al Qaida and the Taliban. “ They’ve been arming these people to kill our troops,†said Rohrabacher. “They nuzzle up to communist China, they’ve been building nukes at our expense and now we know they have been giving aid and comfort to Usama bin Laden.†Rohrabacher says continuing to aid Pakistan makes the U.S. look foolish. “The fact is the Pakistanis are treating us like fools because we're acting like fools. We're giving money to someone who obviously is working against the basic interests and national security interests of our own country.†Yet there are others who say the U.S. should continue its aid to Pakistan. They believe cutting development aid would have an even more negative effect. “I think it's really crucial that we don’t back away specifically our humanitarian and economic assistance,†said Rebecca Winthrop, Director of the Center for Universal Education at the Brookings Institution. “That is a critical ingredient especially things like education and job creation for a stable long term Pakistan which is in our national security interest.†Winthrop says the U.S. needs to evaluate its aid models and make sure it is properly dispersed. “I think what we need to do is redouble our efforts in the economic assistance, humanitarian aid, education would be a great thing to fund, because that is really what the Pakistani citizens want.†How much does the President's proposed $3 billion in aid to Pakistan cost you? While foreign aid is less than 2 percent of the federal budget and Pakistan gets less than israel & Egypt, here's another way to look at the $3 billion. Excluding Social Security and Medicare, a married couple earning $50,000 pays $260 a year in income taxes. At that rate, 11 million Americans would have to work an entire year just to pay for the aid to Pakistan. Fox News' Laura Prabucki contributed to this report. $260 a year doesn't sound right. Must be $2600. No matter, we need to end foreign aid across the board !! :sl:
  4. Pentagon Report: CIA Used New Stealth Drones to Monitor Bin Laden's Compound in Pakistan Associated Press Published May 18, 2011 A U.S. Predator drone flies over the moon above Kandahar Air Field, Afghanistan. In order to survey the compound where Usama bin Laden was hiding, the CIA used a new type of stealth drone to fly dozens of missions into Pakistani airspace undetected, The Washington Post reported Tuesday. The unmanned planes conducted flights over the compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan for months before the Navy SEALs raid on May 2 that killed the Al Qaeda leader, The Post said, adding that they captured high-resolution video necessary to plan the mission. The ability to evade radar detection and operate at high altitudes allowed the stealth drones – a model known as the RQ-170 Sentinel -- to travel beyond the normal limits that Pakistan has imposed on other U.S. drones, the paper reported. A former U.S. official familiar with the operation told The Post that the agency “needed to see more about what was going on†than other surveillance methods allowed. Highly advanced aircraft were just one of many methods used, but their role was made necessary by the location of bin Laden’s compound – near military and nuclear sites with systems that could have detected Predator drones or other non-stealth aircraft. The use of U.S. drones in Pakistan was already a tense subject between the two countries even before the bin Laden raid. The U.S. refuses to publicly acknowledge the covert CIA drone program in Pakistan, but officials have said privately that the strikes have killed many senior Al Qaeda and Taliban commanders. U.S. officials believe Pakistani intelligence continues to support militants who attack U.S. troops in Afghanistan, and actively undermine U.S. intelligence operations to go after Al Qaeda inside Pakistan. The level of distrust is such that keeping Pakistan in the dark was a major factor in planning the raid. Pakistani officials regularly condemn drone attacks as violations of the country's sovereignty. But many are believed to privately support the program, and some of the drones are suspected of taking off from inside Pakistan. Continued drone attacks in the weeks following bin Laden’s death are evidence that the U.S. is not letting up on cross-border drone strikes into Pakistan despite complaints that the U.S. violated its sovereignty by killing bin Laden on their soil.
  5. Saudi Facebook Campaign Calls for Men to Beat Women Drivers Associated Press May 25, 2011 A campaign on Facebook is calling for Saudi men to beat women who plan to drive cars in a protest next month, AFP reports. "The Iqal Campaign: June 17 for preventing women from driving" advocates a cord be used to beat women who plan to drive. Women are not allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia. Some 6,000 people have "liked" the campaign on Facebook. It was created in response to female activist Manal al-Sharif, who created a page calling for Saudi women to defy the driving ban on June 17. The Facebook page, called "Teach me how to drive so I can protect myself," was removed after more than 12,000 people indicated their support. The campaign's Twitter account also was deactivated. Saudi Arabia is the only country in the world that bans women — both Saudi and foreign — from driving. The prohibition forces families to hire live-in drivers, and those who cannot afford the $300 to $400 a month for a driver must rely on male relatives to drive them to work, school, shopping or the doctor. The issue is a highly emotional one in the kingdom, where women are also not allowed to vote, or even travel without their husbands' or fathers' permission. About 800 Saudi people have signed a petition urging Saudi King Abdullah to release al-Sherif and to make a clear statement on women's right to drive. "We are fed up," Waleed Aboul Khair, a lawyer and rights activists said. "Be frank," he said, addressing the country's rulers. "For the first time in the history of the kingdom, we have hundreds of people calling for the king to be frank." "The society has moved. The society is not silent anymore," Aboul Khair said. There is no written Saudi law banning women from driving, only fatwas, or religious edicts, by senior clerics that are enforced by police. King Abdullah has promised reforms in the past and has taken some tentative steps to ease restrictions on women. But the Saudi monarchy relies on Wahhabi clerics to give religious legitimacy to its rule and is deeply reluctant to defy their entrenched power.
  6. Why I No Longer Believe In Islam

    EXACTLY !!!! Made BY MEN to Control Men. :sl:
  7. The koran 'fire-tornado' probably looks like the 'pillar of fire' in the movie 'The Ten Commandments', probably the most kick [censored] movie EVER !!! :sl:
  8. What Do You Think?

    'They' are everywhere. I hate to sound as paranoid and conspiritorial as as 'Mr. Worn', or 'Al Faqueer' and friends, but the radical- sweaterbomb-wearing- West- hating- potential- suicide- bomber- who's- religion-HAPPENS- to- be- Islam......... has infiltrated the U.S. We know who most of these 'people' are. What would a country like Russia or China do ? Capture and fairly try these 'people' ? I would like to see a campaign of clandestine 'neutralization' of these 'objects'. :sl:
  9. Don't tell me what I do, junior. The muslims the WORLD is fighting hack mens heads off and post the videos on the internet. They hang their burnt bodies from bridges and drag them around behind JEEPS. That's what 'those guys' do, not us. 'THEY' are the ones we are fighting.
  10. The Photo Of Dead Osama :d ...!

    That's a joke, right ? You COULDN'T be THAT stupid, could you ? :sl:
  11. Pakistan military: the enemy within ? By Andrew Stern Wed May 25, 2011 (Reuters) - An American who scouted targets for the 2008 Pakistani militant raid on Mumbai testified on Wednesday about conversations he had with a Chicago businessman accused of helping the attackers and a retired Pakistani military officer. David Headley took the stand in the trial of Pakistani-born businessman Tahawwur Rana, 50, who is charged with providing support to Lashkar-e-Taiba, the group blamed in the attacks that killed 160 people. The trial is being closely watched for revelations that could complicate U.S.-Pakistani relations already tense following the American killing of al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden in Pakistan. Headley has said Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence directorate (ISI) and elements in Pakistan's military coordinated with Lashkar and other Pakistani militants. Headley, who has admitted he scouted targets for the attacks, told the U.S. District Court jury about secretly recorded telephone conversations he had with Rana and retired Pakistan military officer Abdur Rehman, known as Pasha. Headley said he and Rana gloated over the success of the Mumbai raids and praised its planners, listening to recordings of cell phone conversations between the attackers and Headley's main Lashkar contact, Sajid Mir, during the raid. One of Headley's conversations with Pasha months after the Mumbai raid turned to Headley's anger at a man identified as Major Iqbal of Pakistan's ISI, who had provided guidance during Headley's surveillance work in Mumbai. He called Iqbal a "coward" for telling Headley, "Friend, do not have any contact with me any more." Pasha and Iqbal are among six Pakistanis charged in the case but not in custody. Several Lashkar members were detained in Pakistan after the Mumbai raids. Rana is also accused of supporting the militant group in a separate plot, never carried out, to attack the Danish newspaper that published cartoons depicting the Prophet Mohammed that angered many Muslims. Defense attorneys questioned Headley later in the day. They have portrayed Headley, Rana's best friend since their youth, as a manipulator who tricked and used Rana. Headley cooperated with U.S. authorities after being caught twice smuggling heroin. He avoided the death penalty and extradition in this case by pleading guilty and testifying. Defense attorney Charles Swift sought to undermine Headley's credibility, asking Headley about a heroin-buying trip to Pakistan when he brought Rana along in the belief it would minimize his chances of being caught. Swift also asked Headley how his Pakistani handlers could know whether he was keeping Rana informed, citing $25,000 Headley received from Iqbal for expenses. Rana was unaware of the money, Swift said, and paid the expenses. "The only person who knew everything was you, correct?," he asked. "Yes," Headley said.
  12. I'm surprised it took this long for the conspiracy to pop up.The Kurds are pro West because they don't want to live in the 8th century. :sl:
  13. Obama Vs 2 State Solution

    UHHHH...... RIGHT ? :sl:
  14. Satan Vs Anti-christ

    Rodan Vs. MechaGodzilla :sl: I say Rodan. :sl:
  15. Why Did The God Of israel Choose Muhammad?

    No. I'm too busy making up more stupid conspiracies for you to believe. And when the time comes for 'you guys' ###### to be kicked, we'll use your belief in stupid conspiracies and superstitions against you, to devastating effect. Any made up, stupid theory thrown out there can be used to lead 'you guys' around by the nose. The stupider, the more you'll believe. :sl:
  16. Afghan Army Is A Joke

    Afghan Army Literacy Improves, Still Poses Problems Associated Press by Jennifer Griffin May 23, 2011 NATO plans to train the Afghan security force to take over all 34 provinces in Afghanistan by Dec 31, 2014. But 86 percent of the recruits are coming to them so illiterate that they have had to invest $88 million just to get the new recruits to a 3rd grade reading level. On any given day the U.S. military and NATO have 34,000 Afghan army and police recruits enrolled in literacy classes, and so far 92,000 recruits have received literacy training. It's translating to a better public perception. The Afghan army now counts as the number one trusted institution in Afghanistan, according to recent polls conducted by the Asia Foundation and others, according to Dr. Jack Kim, the senior adviser to Lt. Gen. William Caldwell who is in charge of the NATO training mission. More than 2,200 Afghans are now employed as language instructors. It takes NATO 64 hours to get a new recruit to a first grade reading level. Some recruits are now carrying pens around in addition to their weapons because they are so proud of their new skills, according to Kim, who briefed press at the Pentagon Monday. To combat some of the corruption that goes along with having an illiterate security force, NATO has begun putting blue dye in the fuel that security force vehicles use. "If you are driving around with blue fuel, you stole that fuel," Kim said, as an example of ways in which the U.S. and others are trying to reduce corruption in the security forces. They have also instituted a new anti-corruption phone line, and there is now a lottery for police and army assignments to halt the practice of buying assignments which contributes to more corruption and a loss of confidence in the force that is supposed to stabilize Afghanistan after U.S. forces leave. Eighteen months ago the Afghan national police faced an attrition rate of 70 percent per month. That is now down to 30 percent a month. They are paid a maximum of $240 per month with danger pay. On average a private in the Army and a new police recruit are now paid about the same. The security forces have grown by 98,000 since November 2009. That place is a lost case. To think that the U.S. could drag these people into the 21st century was a mistake. We should have gone in there after 9/11, killed who needed to be killed and left. It's like the Bizzaro world. :sl:
  17. Afghan Army Is A Joke

    Yeah, like Indonesia is 'tearing it up'. How long are 'you guys' going to stay a third world country ?
  18. Women in Kandahar - and fear Trudy Rubin Philadelphia Inquirer Tuesday, May 17, 2011 In the front yard of the Zarghona Anna Girls’ High School, is a burned out minibus that was torched when a mob of men attacked the school a few weeks ago. But today the girls, in black tunics, loose slacks and white scarves, chatter happily in front of the low, white school, built around a courtyard. It was built decades ago under the Afghan monarchy, and continued ever since - with a break during the Taliban. Now its headmistress wonders whether its mission can go on. The violent incident happened when riots broke out after rumors that a Koran burning was occurring in the United States. The headmistress of the school, Lailoma Popal, a handsome woman who wears a mustard and white shalwar khameez with matching headscarf, points out that among the schoolbooks that were burned by the rioters in the incident were Korans. But the uncertainty of the future here for women who want to work and study weighs on her – as Afghans wonder whether American troops will leave soon. Educated women, a small minority in Kandahar, face a conservative culture that produced Taliban (the rioters were angry males who see girls’ schools as morally corrupt, but not necessarily Taliban members). They also fear that any return of the Taliban would plunge the country back into civil war. When the rioters came, the teachers rushed the girls – in their black tunics, loose pants and white headscarves – into the back of the large building. They hid as many as possible in lavatories. The rioters smashed windows, piled up classroom chairs, and set rooms alight. The teachers tried to prevent the girls from screaming as the smoke filled the air. The police in a substation right next to the school fled, reflecting their lack of capacity. Security officers in another building nearby, housing an office of the national intelligence agency, did nothing. The situation was only saved when many fathers of students arrived and begged the rioters to let the girls leave safely. Popal, a university graduate who fled to Pakistan during Taliban rule, says only a small minority of girls go to high school in Kandahar, the children of educated parents or poor parents who understand the value of education. “Until we have good local police,†she says, “the international community can’t leave.†Then she adds: “we see police smoking hash all the time, they are all criminals and thieves. If the international community leaves, we will have a bloodier situation than now.†Ironic, no ?
  19. Women In Kandahar - And Fear

    But korans were burned. Aren't 'you guys' gonna freak out, now ? :sl:
  20. What the hell are you talking about ?
  21. Hacking his head off on E.S.P.N. 'sounds more logical' ? To 'you guys', maybe. BOY !! ARE 'YOU GUYS' DIFFERENT THAN US !! If anyone in the U.S. still thinks we should keep letting 'you guys' into this country, they need to talk to you for a minute. That'll change their minds, pronto !! I don't think they gave a flying 'F' about Islam. But I'm sure they tossed his carcass into the sea so 'you guys' don't make a jihadi DisneyWorld out of his grave. You KNOW 'you guys' would be there every day jumping up and down chanting stupid stuff, burning U.S. flags and whatnot. Don't even TRY to tell me 'you guys' wouldn't. That place would be PACKED !! :sl: P.S. I was diving in the ocean yesterday..... I didn't see him. But I'll think of him ( and laugh) every time I see a crab. Because that's were he is now. In crabs bellies. :sl: