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  1. Us Marines And Disrespect For Dead Muslims.

    Totally unacceptable. I saw it on the news.
  2. Do you value some of Jesus/Biblical teachings like doing to others as you would have them do to you, mercy, etc.????
  3. Is It Allowed To Impose Sharia On Non-muslims?

    Firstly, the term secon-class applies because they do not enjoy total equality with the Muslims. As to treating them well, you should note that some Caliphs required children as tribute in Africa and Eastern europe - is that Good treatment. It isn't however something that took place everywhere. Islamic lands like Jordan and Saudi Arabia that have a no-entry policy for Jews? Countries like Egypt that expelled its own Jewish community (this is in the last 50-60 years)? The regimes and leaders who encouraged hitler from the Middle East??? Other than some Albanians and Palestine, I know of no other Muslim majority nation where they went to. Wasn't palestine still ruled by the colonial authority at that time? As they were in Europe, many fled to neighbouring countries like France, etc. Feel free to enlighten me. And I don't know why you brought this up because Christians including church officials helped when they could. The West led the mission to stop Hitler... And Hitler did not just kill Jews, he killed Christians, Bosnian Muslims and Roma as well. By the way, Hitler got some of his ideas from the Ottomans when they killed 1.2 million Christians from the Armenian & Greek communities. So before you get on your high horse, remember that there are two sides to this story.... The West and the Muslim world are both guilty of anti-semitism. Anyway, this has nothing to do with imposing sharia on non-Muslims. Whether you like it or not, they are second-class citizens for as long as they do not enjoy total equality with Muslims.
  4. Imperialism The West And Islam - Is It Allowed?

    If they had the choice to refuse conversion, refuse war and refuse jizyah as well then your statement would be true. Sounds like the Roman Empire that Jesus lived under in the first century - paying taxes to an foreign regime that was forced upon you yet you don't have the same rights as their elite....
  5. A Question About Forced Conversion?

    What would be the repercussions if a dhimmi were unable to pay Jizyah VS Muslim unable to pay Zakat?
  6. A Question About Forced Conversion?

    Democratic electoral system = majority rules. If a provision is made to rule yourself then great. But the Dhimmi life as not the same as a life free of Muslim rule...
  7. Imperialism The West And Islam - Is It Allowed?

    :sl: No, imperialism is imperialism. It seems hypocrytical to denounce one form of imperialism, yet condone another. It's either evil or right. I would never support Imperialism that's why I will NEVER be a Muslim. I don't believe it is of God.
  8. MONSEY, N.Y. -- In his new suburban American home, Shaker Yakub, a Yemeni Jew, folded a large scarf in half, wrapped it around his head and tucked in his spiraling side curls. "This is how I passed for a Muslim," said the 59-year-old father of seven, improvising a turban that hid his black skullcap. The ploy enabled Mr. Yakub and half a dozen members of his family to slip undetected out of their native town of Raida, Yemen, and travel to the capital 50 miles to the south. There, they met U.S. State Department officials conducting a clandestine operation to bring some of Yemen's last remaining Jews to America to escape rising anti-Semitic violence in his country. In all, about 60 Yemeni Jews have resettled in the U.S. since July; officials say another 100 could still come. There were an estimated 350 in Yemen before the operation began. Some of the remainder may go to israel and some will stay behind, most in a government enclave. The secret evacuation of the Yemeni Jews -- considered by historians to be one of the oldest of the Jewish diaspora communities -- is a sign of America's growing concern about this Arabian Peninsula land of 23 million. The operation followed a year of mounting harassment, and was plotted with Jewish relief groups while Washington was signaling alarm about Yemen. In July, Gen. David Petraeus was dispatched to Yemen to encourage President Ali Abdullah Saleh to be more aggressive against al-Qaeda terrorists in the country. Last month, President Barack Obama wrote in a letter to President Saleh that Yemen's security is vital to the region and the U.S. Yemen was overshadowed in recent years by bigger trouble spots such as Afghanistan. But it has re-emerged on Washington's radar as a potential source of regional instability and a haven for terrorists. The impoverished nation is struggling with a Shiite revolt in the north, a secessionist movement in the south, and growing militancy among al-Qaeda sympathizers, raising concern about the government's ability to control its territory. Analysts believe al-Qaeda operatives are making alliances with local tribes that could enable it to establish a stronghold in Yemen, as it did in Afghanistan prior to the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks. The State Department took something of a risk in removing the Yemenis to the U.S., as it might be criticized for favoritism at a time when refugees elsewhere are clamoring for haven. The U.S. calculated the operation would serve both a humanitarian and a geopolitical purpose. In addition to rescuing a group threatened because of its religion, Washington was seeking to prevent an international embarrassment for an embattled Arab ally. President Saleh has been trying to protect the Jews, but his inability to quell the rebellion in the country's north made it less likely he could do so, prompting the U.S. to step in. The alternative -- risking broader attacks on the Jews -- could well have undermined the Obama administration's efforts to rally support for President Saleh in the U.S. and abroad. "If we had not done anything, we feared there would be bloodshed," says Gregg Rickman, former State Department Special Envoy to Monitor and Combat Anti-Semitism. Mr. Yakub says the operation saved his family from intimidation that had made life in Yemen unbearable. Violence toward the country's small remaining Jewish community began to intensify last year, when one of its most prominent members was gunned down outside his house. But the mission also hastens the demise of one of the oldest remaining Jewish communities in the Arab world. Jews are believed to have reached what is now Yemen more than 2,500 years ago as traders for King Solomon. They survived -- and at times thrived -- over centuries of change, including the spread of Islam across the Arabian Peninsula. "They were one of the oldest exiled groups out of israel," says Hayim Tawil, a Yeshiva University professor who is an expert on Yemeni Jewry. "This is the end of the Jewish Diaspora of Yemen. That's it." Centuries of near total isolation make Yemeni Jews a living link with the ancient world. Many can recite passages of the Torah by heart and read Hebrew, but can't read their native tongue of Arabic. They live in stone houses, often without running water or electricity. One Yemeni woman showed up at the airport expecting to board her flight with a live chicken. Through the centuries, the Jews earned a living as merchants, craftsmen and silversmiths known for designing djanbias, traditional daggers that only Muslims are allowed to carry. Jewish musical compositions became part of Yemeni culture, played at Muslim weddings and festivals. "Yemeni Jews have always been a part of Yemeni society and have lived side by side in peace with their Muslim brothers and sisters," said a spokeswoman for the Embassy of Yemen in Washington. In 1947, on the eve of the birth of the state of israel, protests in the port city of Aden resulted in the death of dozens of Jews and the destruction of their homes and shops. In 1949 and 1950 about 49,000 people -- the majority of Yemen's Jewish community -- were airlifted to israel in "Operation Magic Carpet." About 2,000 Jews stayed in Yemen. Some trickled out until 1962, when civil war erupted. After that, they were stuck there. "For three decades, there were no telephone calls, no letters, no traveling overseas. The fact there were Jews in Yemen was barely known outside israel," says Prof. Tawil. After alienating the West by backing Iraq during the first Gulf War, Yemen sought a rapprochement with Washington. In 1991, it declared freedom of travel for Jews. An effort led by Prof. Tawil and brokered by the U.S. government culminated in the departure of about 1,200 Jews, mainly to israel, in the early 1990s. Arthur Hughes, American ambassador to Yemen at the time, recalls that those who chose to remain insisted: "This is where we have been for centuries, we are okay; we're not going anywhere." The few hundred Jews who stayed behind were concentrated in two enclaves: Saada, a remote area in Yemen's northern highlands, and Raida to the south. In 2004, unrest erupted in Saada. The government says at least 50,000 people have been displaced by fighting between its troops and the Houthis, a Shiite rebel group. Animosity against Jews intensified. Notes nailed to the homes of Jews accused them of working for israel and corrupting Muslim morals. "Jews were specifically targeted by Houthi rebels," says a spokeswoman for the Yemeni embassy in Washington. In January 2007, Houthi leaders threatened Jewish families in Saada. "We warn you to leave the area immediately... [W]e give you a period of 10 days, or you will regret it," read a letter signed by a Houthi representative cited in a Reuters article. Virtually the entire Jewish community in the area, about 60 people, fled to the capital. Since then, they have been receiving food stipends and cash assistance from the government while living in state-owned apartments in a guarded enclave, says the Yemeni embassy in Washington. President Saleh, a Shiite, has been eager to demonstrate goodwill toward the Jews. On the Passover holiday, he invited TV crews to videotape families in the government complex as they feasted on lamb he had ordered. Raida became the last redoubt of Yemeni Jews, who continued to lead a simple life there alongside Muslims. Ancient stone homes dot the town. Electricity is erratic; oil lamps are common. Water arrives via truck. Most homes lack a TV or a refrigerator. The cell phone is the only common modern device. Some families receive financial aid from Hasidic Jewish groups in Brooklyn and London, which has enabled them to buy cars. Typically, the Jewish men are blacksmiths, shoe repairmen or carpenters. They sometimes barter, trading milk and cow dung for grass to feed their livestock. In public, the men stand out for their long side curls, customarily worn by observant Jewish men. Jewish women, who often marry by 16, rarely leave home. When they do, like Muslim women, only their eyes are exposed. For fun, children play with pebbles and chase family chickens around the house. At Jewish religious schools, they sit at wooden tables to study Torah and Hebrew. They aren't taught subjects like science, or to read and write in Arabic, Yemen's official language. "I showed them a multiplication table and I don't think they had ever seen one," says Stefan Kirschner, a New York University graduate student who visited Raida in August 2008 and says he sat in a few classes. In September 2008, militants detonated a car bomb outside the U.S. Embassy in Yemen's capital of Sanaa, killing 16 people. The attack raised fresh concern about Muslim extremism and the government's stability. Then, on Dec. 11, a lone gunman shot dead Moshe Nahari, a father of nine and well-known figure in Raida's Jewish community. Abdul-Aziz al-Abdi, a retired Air Force pilot, pumped several bullets into Mr. Nahari after the Hebrew teacher dismissed his demands that he convert to Islam. In June, the shooter was sentenced to death. israel's offensive against Hamas militants in the Gaza Strip later in December sparked protests in Yemen. Jewish men and children in Raida were heckled, beaten and pelted with rocks. A grenade was hurled at the house of Said Ben Yisrael, who led one of three makeshift synagogues in Raida, and landed in the courtyard of his two-story home. From the safety of his new home in suburban New York, Mr. Yakub recounted his last months in Yemen. Rocks shattered the windows of his house and car. Except for emergencies and provisions, Jews began to avoid leaving home. When they did, Mr. Yakub and other Jews took to disguising themselves as Muslims. "This was no way to live," he said, seated at the head of a long table surrounded by his wife and children. Salem Suleiman, who also arrived recently in New York, bears scars from rocks that hit his head. "They throw stones at us. They curse us. They want to kill us," he said. "I didn't leave my house for two months." New York had a community of about 2,000 Yemeni Jews. Yair Yaish, who heads the Yemenite Jewish Federation of America, says he was barraged with "desperate calls from the community here saying we have to do something to get our families out." The U.S. Ambassador to Yemen urged Yemeni ministers to facilitate the departure. After initial reluctance -- the government preferred to give the Jews safe haven in the capital city -- Yemen agreed to issue exit permits and passports. "It was the embassy's view, and the Department concurred, that because of their vulnerability, we should consider them for resettlement," says a spokeswoman for the State Department's Bureau of Population, Refugees and Migration. Jewish Federations of North America raised $750,000 to help the effort. Orthodox groups also pledged to pitch in. The Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society was tasked with their resettlement. Word reached Jews in Raida that there was an American plan afoot to rescue them. The first applicants signed up at the U.S. Embassy in January. To avoid attracting attention, families convoyed to Sanaa in taxis at dawn. Later they traveled to a hotel for interviews with U.S. officials. To establish a case for refugee status, they had to demonstrate a well-founded fear of persecution. For many of the women, it was the first time speaking with anyone outside the home. As news spread of their imminent departure, many families reported trouble selling property. Potential buyers offered low prices or refused to bid, thinking they could get the property free after it was deserted. "All they have is this little house worth $15,000," says Yochi Sabari, a Jew from Raida who lives in New York and has relatives in Yemen. "They can't leave until they sell it." About three weeks before their travel date, the U.S. embassy contacted the first four families cleared for travel. On July 7, their 17 members traveled to the airport in Sanaa and boarded a Frankfurt-bound flight. When the Yemenis landed in New York the next day, Jewish organization officials there to greet them spotted several women cloaked in black robes, only their eyes exposed. "The Jewish women were the ones in burqas," says Gideon Aronoff, president of the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society. He says he was "initially shocked." Several families missed the two flights offered to them by the U.S. and, therefore, forfeited their chance to move here. Family members say they are having trouble disposing of assets. An undisclosed number of people have reached israel, including the family of Mr. Ben Yisrael, whose home was the target of a grenade, and the family of Mr. Nahari, who was slain in December 2008. In the U.S., the Yemeni refugees are being settled in Monsey, a suburban enclave of ultraorthodox Jews, lined with strip malls that sell black coats and wide-rimmed hats worn by Hasidic men. The Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society's network established a Monsey office, where case managers arrange housing and disburse food stamps, cash and other refugee benefits to the Yemeni arrivals. Many of the adults, caseworkers say, aren't yet capable of budgeting, following a schedule or sitting still in a structured classroom to learn English. On a recent morning, Mr. Suleiman, a 36-year-old father of three, retrieved an alarm clock that he received with his furnished apartment. "I still don't know how to use this," he said. "The children have been playing with it." Miriam Jordan (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_online.wsj(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/article/SB125693376195819343.html"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_online.wsj(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/article/SB125693376195819343.html[/url] Good and bad aspects reflected in the article. President Saleh, a Shiite, has been eager to demonstrate goodwill toward the Jews. On the Passover holiday, he invited TV crews to videotape families in the government complex as they feasted on lamb he had ordered. "The Jewish women were the ones in burqas," says Gideon Aronoff, president of the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society. He says he was "initially shocked. I have also read online that some israeli Jewish women (non-Arab) wear the niqab! See the link for pictures.
  9. A Question About Forced Conversion?

    Why do you ask? Do you think I am a former Muslim????? Why not be left alone to farm and feed their families, instead of having to be subdued under an Islamic state and pay taxes yet not even have the same rights as the Muslims? If they elected the Muslim government out of free will without the fear of conflict, then it would be a different issue. As for practicing other faiths you just answered your previous question/response as to non-Muslims having the same rights.
  10. In Nigeria, Boko Haram Is Not The Problem

    When did I say that Muslims are terrorists? I said Boko Haram are terrorists. The clashes in towns like Jos are between Muslim and Christian CIVILIANS over economic, ethnic and religious issues. :sl: Of course not all Christians are perfect and there are those who have participated in the clashes. Even so, I don't want to continue this with you. You ignore the root of the clashes and how they differ from Boko Haram. And you seem to be saying Christians who haven't participated in the violence deserve what they get because of the actions of other Christians...
  11. A Question About Forced Conversion?

    until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled. and feel themselves subdued.” 9:29 Malik’s Translation until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.” 9:29 Pickthall’s Translation There is no equality.
  12. A Question About Forced Conversion?

    waalaikum. 1. Not being able to carry a weapon, ride a horse or camel, promote their won religion, Muslim cannot be executed for killing non-Muslim (depending on the school of thought), in some cases not being allowed to build or repair places of worship, restriction on public expressions of non-Islamic faith such as prayer in public, having to wear clothing to clearly distinguish them as dhimmis, not to build houses higher than those of Muslims is one of the clauses of the Pact of Umar, expulsion from Arabia, testimony worth less than that of a Muslim, etc. 2. I don't think you get me. A thousand years ago, many societies did not pay taxes - they lived off their land. So having to pay tribute to Muslims must have been a shocker and/or financial strain which may have caused hardship. Some Caliphs demanded children as tribute in Africa and Ottoman empire... Thanks.
  13. Imperialism The West And Islam - Is It Allowed?

    It seems like a double-standard.
  14. A Question About Forced Conversion?

    Well, it depends on whether or not the Islamic rule was forced upon them or not.... But that's another issue. My question is why and how conversion on the premise of an ultimatum to convert, pay Jizyah or fight and die is acceptable, if the conversion is clearly made under the fear of: 1. living in a state where you do not have the same rights as Muslims; 2. having to pay tax (not all communities paid taxes like Western nations/Romans and Greeks did so this may have been something new to some); 3. enslavement; 4. violence or death. These are all stressful prospects so isn't conversion made under duress?
  15. In Nigeria, Boko Haram Is Not The Problem

    They turned to violence after their leader was killed. You should provide evidence to back up your claim, or you should just accept that they are terrorists. Even if a Christian/Christian group attacked them, is it fair for them to kill Christians indiscriminately? I am not saying you support them, but to me it seems like you are looking for excuses for their behaviour - in this case to suggest that the victim asked for it.... Not all Muslims are good people - just as with any religion there are good and bad. It is very concerning when we look for excuses for people who kill indiscriminately. "Yeah, well someone must have made them do it..." seems like what you are saying. "The virus of Islamic jihad is now spreading it’s tentacles within Nigeria. Extremist group Boko Haram have given Christians living in Northern Nigeria notice to leave the area. Boko Haram is demanding the imposition of Islamic sharia law across Nigeria. It should be remembered that Nigeria has almost equal numbers of Christians and Muslims. " They also refuse to interact with non-Muslims. They are intolerant bigots - they are filled with hatred. Wanting to spread Sharia in Nigeria against the will of the people - whether Muslim or non-Muslim is totally unjustifiable. Perhaps I can shed light on this for you as someone who lives in Africa with Nigerian friends of both religions and I have also travelled to the country. If I am not mistaken, Jos and other cities lie on the frontline between Northern Nigeria (predominantly Muslim) and Southern Nigerian (predominantly Christian). There is a law which some states have adopted which will only provide services to members of a community if they are indegenious to that community and not originally from another state. Therefore, people from the Northern ethnic groups who reside and the more developed southern cities will not qualify for benefits there - only in their home communities. Some politicians have been trying to capitalise on the tensions and make them more about religion in order to gain politically. I do not deny that Muslims AND Christians have been involved in clashes in Nigeria - however you can't compare it with Boko Haram. Boko Haram was arming and training its members as militants whereas the clashes in Jos and other towns are between Muslim and Christian civilians. Boko Haram wants to establish sharia in Nigeria whereas the Christian and Muslim civilians have clashed over ethnicity and resources and religion is part of the mix as well. It's not just about religion - it's ethnic and socio-economic as well! NB: Many of the Southern cities are more developed financially as colonialists were not permitted the same access in Northern parts. Anyone with any corrections or further input is welcome to respond.
  16. In Nigeria, Boko Haram Is Not The Problem

    I mean by the quotes from them that you posted. I am not suggesting that you support or condone their actions, but it seems that in your statement you harp on revenge or retaliation or victimisation of boko haram: "But what I want to know is what caused this group to now start fighting. Clearly someone did something to them if what they said in that article is to go by. I'm not supporting any violence or this group. But all of a sudden they start to fight like this and they claim it is self defence and revenge so clearly something is missing here. Someone did something to them that has caused this. May Allah stop all unjust fighting and killing. " Their killing of civilians is without cause, whether the state or anyone else did anything to them. The ethnic-religious clashes over land and resources are different from Boko Haram. They began killing when the state investigated their activities: "in 2009 when the Nigerian government launched an investigation into the group's activities following reports that its members were arming themselves.[37] Prior to that the government reportedly repeatedly ignored warnings about the increasingly militant character of the organisation, including that of a military officer.[37] When the government came into action, several members of the group were arrested in Bauchi, sparking deadly clashes with Nigerian security forces which led to the deaths of an estimated 700 people. During the fighting with the security forces Boko Haram "fighters reportedly "used fuel-laden motorcycles" and "bows with poison arrows" to attack a police station.[38] The group's founder and then leader Mohammed Yusuf was also killed during this time while still in police custody.[39][40][41] After Yusuf's killing, a new leader emerged whose identity is still not known.[42] After the killing of M. Yusuf, the group carried out its first terrorist attack in Borno in January 2010. It resulted in the killing of four people.[43] Since then, the violence has only escalated in terms of both frequency and intensity." (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_en.wikipedia(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/wiki/Boko_Haram"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_en.wikipedia(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/wiki/Boko_Haram[/url] The death of their leader in police custody seems to be an extra-judicial and illegal killing, yet bombing churches and civilians is the wrong action since the churches and civilians did not arrest and kill their leader... To impose Sharia in Nigeria even among Christians and Animists. "the organisation is a Muslim sect that seeks to "abolish the secular system and establish an Islamic state"[7] and "establish Sharia system of government in the country."[8] The members of the group do not interact with the local Muslim population[18] and have carried out assassinations in the past of any one who criticises it, including Muslim clerics.[15]" This is from the wiki article as well. (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_allafrica(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/stories/201102030036.html"]allAfrica(contact admin if its a beneficial link): Nigeria: We Are Responsible for Borno Killings, Says Boko Haram[/url] (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetaljazeera(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/news/africa/2011/12/20111224124241652788.html"]"Dozens killed in Nigeria clashes" - AlJazeera.[/url] "The virus of Islamic jihad is now spreading it’s tentacles within Nigeria. Extremist group Boko Haram have given Christians living in Northern Nigeria notice to leave the area. Boko Haram is demanding the imposition of Islamic sharia law across Nigeria. It should be remembered that Nigeria has almost equal numbers of Christians and Muslims. " (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_my.telegraph.co.uk/riteman/riteway/16309789/boko-haram-calls-for-sharia-law-in-nigeria/"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_my.telegraph.co.uk/riteman/riteway/...law-in-nigeria/[/url] [this seems to be an opinion piece by a non-journalist] I have also read reports and heard from Nigerians (Christian, Muslim and Atheist) that they (and their followers) make non-Muslim women wear hijab in some places. This is intolerance (hatred) and extremism to want to submit the non-Muslims and Muslims to sharia if they do not want sharia.
  17. Imperialism The West And Islam - Is It Allowed?

    Propagation of Islam or not, here's the definition: a policy of extending a country’s power and influence through colonization, use of military force, or other means - Oxford Dictionary "the creation and/or maintenance of an unequal economic, cultural, and territorial relationship, usually between states and often in the form of an empire, based on domination and subordination." - Dictionary of Human Geography Therefore, fighting non-Muslims for propagating Islam or not fits in. If the non-Muslims refuse they can be fought and killed or enslaved if I am not mistaken - in such cases wouldn't their property be taken from them? Also, the unequal status of a dhimmii fits in. Your comment does not prove that it is not Imperialism. Gaining territory does fit in, otherwise what would be the point of venturing into non-Muslim lands? If the Caliphate system complies, with Islam, I doubt it will be a banned discussion. The rule just got me thinking about the definition of imperialism.
  18. In Nigeria, Boko Haram Is Not The Problem

    Many people are killed in police custody in Nigeria - including Christians. How is bombing a church justifiable when the Church did not arrest and kill their leader? They espouse extremist ideology which is why they were founded in the first place though they did not begin fighting then - 'peaceful' is not the word since their ideology was filled with hate. You are treading a fine line here - do not sympathise with them. Younes, you gotta admit spacegoat was funny. Not trying to be mean or laughing at you, and I don't think anyone here was... We all make mistakes. :sl:
  19. A Question About Forced Conversion?

    Yes, inside and outside (if conquest is waged). To me, jizyah and dhimmitude is a threat because they would not have the same rights as a Muslim. In some cases the jizyah was too high or people were required to give their children as tribute. I read that in some cases, the jizyah collection ceremony was humiliating, and they were humilated in other ways like disguishing dress, etc. Therefore, if someone converts at the threat of Dhimmitude, how is it accepted since there is duress - fear of not having the same rights.
  20. Hello, I know this is a touchy topic and I hope that you will not be offended by my question. I would just like to know if Muslims can prove that the Quran is 100% authentic? I ask for the following reasons: - It seems that scholars and historians have yet to conduct fair and unbiased textual criticism of the Quran as they have done exhaustive studies of Biblical and apochrygraphical texts. Surely if these claims are true, scholars can investigate to provide reassurance. I am also concerned that the unfortunate threats of death or punishment for criticism of the Quran as blasphemy, may contribute to the lack of exhaustive research. Some of these scholars and researchers - like those who have studied or commented upon the Sanaa manuscripts and Christoph Luxenberg who gave a Syrio-Aramaic reading of the Quran have had to use pseudonyms. This is very concerning. - I've heard Muslims say that because the Quran contains things that are true, Muhammad was a real prophet and evertthing in the Quran is correct. Yet, I read online that there mistakes in the Quran like the sun sets in a puddle according to one verse, if I am not mistaken another says that all creatures were created male and female when in fact there are animals and insects that are androgenous/hermaphorditic (neither male/female or possessing both attributes) and some don't need to mate in order to reproduce, that certain texts seem to imply that the earth was flat, that there are only eight types of cattle? - Is it true that the Quran claims Muhammad went to Al-Aqsa Masjid, though it was only built after his death? - I'm also confused by this verse: Sahih International "We do not abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten except that We bring forth [one] better than it or similar to it. Do you not know that Allah is over all things competent?" Why not bring the better one the first time around since God is all-knowing, etc.? Please correct any mistakes/misconceptions if any. Please don't respond with unnecessary tit-for-tat comments or comparisons with the Bible - this is about the Quran. I'd like to understand the basis that the Quran is 100% authentic in the face of criticism and the lack of independent textual research. Thank you.
  21. A Question About Forced Conversion?

    Really? On what grounds? There is duress - fear of humiliation, death or war. Thank you.
  22. A Question About Forced Conversion?

    Thanks for your response, but it does not really answer my question.
  23. Ask A Catholic Anything!

    But my comment has to do with the Bible, not Islam? I respect the rules, I understand it is not for discussion, but I was responding to that point from a Biblical perspective to a Christian.
  24. A Question About Forced Conversion?

    But I mean if someone converts upon the threat/fear of having to be subdued as a non-Muslim? Is this not totally conversion under free-will since there is a threat.
  25. In Nigeria, Boko Haram Is Not The Problem

    "Boko Haram is not the problem" seems to imply that it is not a problem at all. Perhaps Younes would view things differently if he was bombed in the street or forced to follow a brand of Islam/a religion he does not adhere to. Article on the latest video by the sect's leader: The leader of Nigeria's Boko Haram Islamist militants has defended recent attacks on Christians, saying they are revenge for killings of Muslims. In his first video message, posted on YouTube, Abubakar Shekau referred to attacks on Muslims in recent years in several parts of northern Nigeria. Boko Haram militants attacked several churches on Christmas Day, killing dozens of worshippers. This has led to some revenge attacks on Masjids in the mainly Christian south. Nigeria, Africa's most populous nation with 160 million people, is divided between a largely Muslim north and a south where most people are Christians and some animists. Thousands of people have fled their homes following the recent attacks, leading some people, including Nigeria's president and the leader of the country's main Christian organisation, to make comparisons with the 1967-70 civil war when leaders of the south-eastern Igbo ethnic group tried to secede. Religious cleansing' Mr Shekau, wearing a red and white turban, a bullet-proof vest and sitting in front of two Kalashnikov rifles, said he was responding to recent statements from Nigeria's President Goodluck Jonathan and the leader of the country's main Christian organisation, the Christian Association of Nigeria. He warned President Jonathan that Nigeria's security forces would not be able to defeat the group. Mr Jonathan, a Christian, has declared a state of emergency in some northern states but the attacks have continued. On Tuesday night, gunmen opened fire on a bar in the northern state of Yobe, killing eight people, including several police officers. The president recently said that he suspected some officials, politicians and members of the security forces sympathised with Boko Haram. Defending the latest spate of violence, Mr Shekau referred to the killing of Muslims in places like Jos, Kaduna, Zangon Kataf, Tafawa Balewa in recent years. Some of these places have seen bitter communal clashes but correspondents say they are often based on long-standing disputes over resources such as land, or are whipped up by politicians, rather than being based on religious differences. Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor, president of the Christian Association of Nigeria, said on Saturday that his members would protect themselves against the attacks, which he said suggested "systematic ethnic and religious cleansing". Mr Shekau said the group could only hold talks with the government in accordance with the teachings of Islam. He said the group's primary targets remained the security forces, who he said had summarily executed their former leader Mohammed Yusuf after he was arrested in 2009. After a lull, in 2010 the group started to stage drive-by shootings on government targets in its base in the north-eastern city of Maiduguri. Last year, it carried out suicide bombings on high-profile targets such as the headquarters of the UN and the police in the capital, Abuja. Boko Haram: Timeline of terror 2002: Founded 2009: Hundreds killed when Maiduguri police stations stormed 2009: Boko Haram leader Mohammed Yusuf captured by army, handed to police, later found dead Sep 2010: Freed hundreds of prisoners from Maiduguri jail Dec 2010: Bombed Jos, killing 80 people and blamed for New Year's Eve attack on Abuja barracks 2010-2011: Dozens killed in Maiduguri shootings May 2011: Bombed several states after president's inauguration June 2011: Police HQ bombed in Abuja Aug 2011: UN HQ bombed in Abuja Nov 2011: Co-ordinated bomb and gun attacks in Yobe and Borno states Dec 2011: Multiple bomb attacks on Christmas Day kill dozens (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetbbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-16510929"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetbbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-16510929[/url] If they are as innocent as the snippet (and the entire article) that Younes quoted, why on earth would they feel the need to boast about their firepower?
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