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  1. Muslim-Christian Debate, Here

    Allah deceived his enemies into thinking they killed Jesus, Allah once again showed that he is all powerful and is always one step ahead of them. The true deception is that of Christians and Paul who later went and made up stories that Jesus rose from the dead, and died for our sins, that is the true deception. There would have been no sin on Christians at the time who mourned for Jesus and believed he had died, the sin is when they started making things up. Jesus never claimed diety so the scriptures were corrupted by deceiving people.
  2. Muslim-Christian Debate, Here

    ...But my people do not know the requirements of the Lord. "'How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely? Jeremiah 8:7-8 In verse 7 it says that they don't know the requirements of the Law. If they wanted to know the requirements of the Law, why go and read what the scribes had written if they had the uncorrupted text of the Law when it was available. They couldn't because the scribes corrupted the Law and therefore people could not have known the true requirements because they would not have been able to distinguish between the corrupted and uncorrupted verses of the Law. In the case of earlier scriptures prophets would come and steer people back to the correct path even after they had corrupted the scriptures. In the case of the Qur'an it was the last of of the revelead books so it must remain the guidance for all time to come and for that reason God preserves it. Numerous messages were revealed to many Prophets who were sent to different nations at different times. However, all these messages, from the first to the last, contained the same essence. They all called people to worship only The One True God and to do righteous deeds. The messages varied in general laws, codes of life and worship (but not in the essential beliefs) according to the diversity of nations, times, conditions, customs and cultures. Every form of this message was sent to a particular nation for a particular time, except the last message revealed to Prophet Muhammad ﷺ which was sent to all people and all nations till the Day of Judgment. The writings are in a "third person". If Moses had written the 5 books he would be using the words "I" and "me" Exodus 2:11: One day, after Moses had grown up... Exodus 2:15 When Pharaoh heard of this, he tried to kill Moses, but Moses fled from Pharaoh and went to live in Midian... This is all being written by somebody else. "It's likely that Joshua, as Moses’ successor as leader of israel, wrote the account of Moses’ death. Or possibly the scribe Ezra or even the seventy elders who served under Moses. Moses wrote Deuteronomy very near the end of his life, it's logical that the death of such a remarkable prophet should be recorded. It does not follow that this should in any way cast doubt about the five Books being under the authorship of Moses." So you don't really know. The video is not talking about translations. It is talking about different versions of the Bible.
  3. Muslim-Christian Debate, Here

    Many would disagree with you including prof. Barth Ehrman. Even the Bible says: "'How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely? Jeremiah 8:8 Add to that all the contradicting statments that can be found from the the Bible. I would like to ask Tunisia who wrote the 5 books of Moses in the OT. Different Bible versions:
  4. Muslim-Christian Debate, Here

    Why didn't Allah Preserve Scriptures Prior to the Qur'an? Imam Shabir Ally answers:
  5. Some Basics Of Islam

    Hello Allah is over all things competent. Our universe doesn't limit his Power in any way.
  6. Some Basics Of Islam

    Yes, Allah is the All-knowing but he is also the All-powerful. This means that our free will is within the controls and power of Allah so for ex. whatever you do in the future has already been decreed to happen. According to Islam prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) is a descendant of Ismail the son of Hagar and Ibrahim (Aabraham). I'm not sure what the Christian narrative is.
  7. Muslim-Christian Debate, Here

    Again, I did not come here to argue about the contents of your posts. I've already told you that I did not mean my comment to be offensive. If you don't believe me and instead choose to speculate what I "really" meant there's nothing I can do. The fact is I did not intend to hurt anyone's feelings. But if you got offended I apologize.
  8. Muslim-Christian Debate, Here

    Irrelevant I didn't talk about facts being a nuisance as you tried to make it seem. No. I said: "We can hopefully continue the discussion without nuisances." Nuisances as in different topics discussed simultaneously by the same users in the same thread which can sometimes lead to annoyances. It's easier to continue these discussions on separate topics. In addition Gnosis didn't seem to want to discuss with you. A fact which you completely disregarded. I never called you a nuisance.
  9. Muslim-Christian Debate, Here

    I didn't talk about facts. Don't put words into my mouth.
  10. Some Basics Of Islam

    What is meant by al-qadar (the divine will and decree) is that Allah has decreed all things from eternity and knows that they will happen at times that are known to Him, and in specific ways, and that He has written that and willed it, and they happen according to what He has decreed. Belief in al-qadar (the divine will and decree) is based on four things: 1. Knowledge, i.e., that Allah knows what His creation will do, by virtue of His eternal knowledge. 2. Writing, i.e., that Allah has written the destiny of all creatures in the Book of Decrees (Al-Lauh Al-Mahfuz). 3. Will, i.e., that what Allah wills happens and what He does not will does not happen. There is no movement in the heavens or on earth but it happens by His will. 4. Creation and formation, i.e., that Allah is the Creator of all things, including the actions of His slaves. They do their actions in a real sense, and He is the Creator of them and of their actions. Whoever believes in these four believes in al-qadar. The Qur’an affirms these things in numerous verses, such as the verses in which He says (interpretation of the meaning): And with Him are the keys of the Ghaib (all that is hidden), none knows them but He. And He knows whatever there is in (or on) the earth and in the sea; not a leaf falls, but he knows it. There is not a grain in the darkness of the earth nor anything fresh or dry, but is written in a Clear Record. [Qur'an - Surat Al-'An`ām 6:59] No calamity befalls on the earth or in yourselves but is inscribed in the Book of Decrees (Al-Lauh Al-Mahfuz), before We bring it into existence. Verily, that is easy for Allah. [Qur'an - Surat Al-Ĥadīd 57:22] The belief of Sunni Muslims is that a person has freedom of will, and hence he will be rewarded or punished. But his will is subject to the will of Allaah, and nothing can take place in the universe that is not willed by Allah. We have the choice to follow whatever path we want but at the end of this path you will find what Allah has decreed for you. People act in a real sense, and Allaah is the Creator of their actions. A person may be a believer or a kaafir (non-muslim), righteous or immoral, he may pray and fast. People have control over their actions, and they have their own will, and Allah is the Creator of their control and will, as Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): To whomsoever among you who wills to walk straight, And you will not, unless (it be) that Allah wills, the Lord of the 'Alamin (mankind, jinns and all that exists). [Qur'an - Surat At-Takwīr 81:28-29] To sum up: the belief that Allah is the Creator Who has decreed all things and has distinguished those who are blessed from those who are doomed, does not mean that Allah forces His slaves to obey or disobey. Rather He has given them the ability to choose and free will, which is what they act upon, and for which they will be brought to account. Your Lord does not wrong His slaves. And Allah knows best. Sources: http://islamqa.info/en/20806 http://islamqa.info/en/96978 I will answer your other question soon Ins'Allah (if Allah wills).
  11. Muslim-Christian Debate, Here

    Hello Gnosis I posted my answers on a seperate topic where we can hopefully continue the discussion without nuisances. Here: http://www.gawaher.com/topic/742336-some-basics-of-Islam/
  12. Some Basics Of Islam

    Hello Gnosis. Here is some basic infromation about Islam for you and we can continue our discussion here. The word Islam means submission. Those who follow the religion of Islam are called muslims. According to Islam all the prophets were muslims and Muhammad (ﷺ) was the last and final prophet. Muslims believe in one God, Allah. Allah - there is no deity except Him, the Ever-Living, the Sustainer of [all] existence. Neither drowsiness overtakes Him nor sleep. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Who is it that can intercede with Him except by His permission? He knows what is [presently] before them and what will be after them, and they encompass not a thing of His knowledge except for what He wills. His Kursi extends over the heavens and the earth, and their preservation tires Him not. And He is the Most High, the Most Great. [Quran 2:255] Say, "He is Allah , [who is] One, Allah , the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born, Nor is there to Him any equivalent." [Quran 112:1-4] To be a muslim you have to belive in the 6 pillars of faith. 1. Belief in Allah 2. Belief in Angels 3. Belief in scriptures 4. Belief in the prophets 5. Belief in life after death 6. Belief in predestination Muslims also belive in jinns. Iblis (satan) is one of them. Jinns are not angels. Angels were made from light whereas Jinns were made from fire. Jinns have free will just like humans because they can go against the orders of God unlike the Angels. There are both good jinns and bad jinns. Say, "I seek refuge in the Lord of mankind, The Sovereign of mankind. The God of mankind, From the evil of the retreating whisperer - Who whispers [evil] into the breasts of mankind - From among the jinn and mankind." [Quran 114:1-6] Islam could be compared to a house. We know that a house needs supporting pillars to stand without collapsing. Islam is also supported by pillars. The five pillars of Islam are: 1. The testimony of faith (shahda) 2. Praying 5 times a day (salat) 3. alms-giving for the needy (zakat) 4. Fasting in the month of Ramadan (sawm) 5. Pilgrimage to Mecca (hajj) The 5 pillars are not the whole of Islam but there is no Islam without them. If one of these pillars is weak the whole house shakes. Muslims follow the Qur'an and the sunnah of the prophet. Sunnah is the verbally transmitted record of the teachings, deeds and sayings of the prophet Muhammad (ﷺ).The Quran is the central religious text of Islam, which Muslims believe to be a revelation from God.
  13. Muslim-Christian Debate, Here

    Hello Gnosis I heard that you are interested to know more about Islam? As a muslim I would like to help you if you have any basic questions. There are also other more active Islamic forums if you can't find answers from here.
  14. Crazy Dream- Call To Islam?

    Have you read the biography of Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وسلم) ? Also who do you believe this prophet to be? Deuteronomy 18:18 I (God) will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee (Moses), and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
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