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  1. Jinns- A different perspective

    "The reference of smokeless fire can also be metaphorical. We don't see clay or mud in human bodies, therefore we may not actually expect fire in Jinn bodies. While humans can burn in their psychologies of fire which does-not give off any smoke." You are allowed to have your opinion, but the sunnah disgrees with you. I provided evidence of the shape shifting form of beings, that helped Solomon teleport a whole palace to another place in a flash. Same charateritics happens in the ranch. I could go on and on, with many hadiths from Sunnah, prophet and including the battle of Badr, physical jinns were present. They saw them with their eyes. Including satan coming to him in human being form. Initiating the battle of badr. They are able to do that. You can disagree with Sunnah, but the tales in the Quran are intertwined with the events. You are allowed to have your opinions among the mass of people that thinks otherwise. Jinns are not man. The only things you broth forth is only your opinions. This makes your argument weak and your are arguing in circles not comming to a conclusion.
  2. the 19 miracle seems with multiplications a bit weak, we should only keep it at, initials, chapter 72, 96, 74, where the numbers are mentioned directly and hinted at. I could find multiples of 19 in any other book but would that make it miraculous? The reason is why 72, 96, 74 and the intial chapter are so special, is because the factors occur in consective terms, with the SAME method. no. A 19 factor with a meaningful multiple is much more rar and should be considered. We have to be critical here.
  3. 313 soldiers, against a 900, less a 1000. In the battle of Badr, at verse 3:13, verse numbers came only later.
  4. Jinns- A different perspective

    The hadiths say that they like to appear in forms of dogs and snake. According to Goerge Knapp accounts from the people living around the ranch, they see them appear as dogs and shifting forms. One account was one of them fled up to a tree, when it attacked a cattle, and the researcher at the ranch shot it, many times, nothing happened to it. It just stared at them, and went of, into the forest. They see us and enter our world, and tranverse, just like what our prophet says. They like to appear in animal form, and the more powerful ones in human form. There are a lot of levels between them. The researchers at the ranch had charaterised the orbs by its psychological effect, a blue hue, and bright ones, are inflicting the greatest damage to the animals and scares humans the most. They even witnessed a portal opening up from the ground and saw a black-hominoid creature walking out of the hole. And they could see through the hole, and that is their account, they actually saw a horizon on the other side of the hole, almost as if it, was a door another world. Like seeing through your window and you see an horizon. The portal vanished along with the figure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-zj-YYaFkk&frags=pl%2Cwn I agree with you on that Jinns work with us, but they are not the same as us. They are not. There are different life forms. And life can be mediated with any materials. Electrons and free ions are the best possible vaible type of life form. Smokeless fire. After all, our brains electrical communication are one and the same, that our concious mind are part of, but we are mad from earth. While they are made from fire. Keword, plasma as life-form.
  5. Jinns- A different perspective

    See how the ears are cut off? And I will mislead them, and I will arouse in them [sinful] desires, and I will command them so they will CUT the ears of cattle, and I will command them so they will change the creation of Allah ." And whoever takes Satan as an ally instead of Allah has certainly sustained a clear loss. 4:119 The meat are clean, shreded off, no blod no marks on the ground. Some of the ranchers, witnessed, full grown bulls in a small hut, packed on each other, crammed up. Couldn't possibly be done by humans. But we know, from the story of Solomon, that these creatures have the capability to even teleport palaces to one place to another, in a blink of an eye. The Pentagon investing money, along with the billionare Bigelow Aerospace Founder. Some of the money went straight to the researchers working on the ranch. The material Jeremy Corbel garthered are to be shown in 9/11, this year. For the first time. Travis abduction story is one of the most convincing cases. He saw actual humans on the craft. Nothing different from us, along with the typical grey alein. But as Aleister Crowly says, and the pioneer of space-engine, said, that they come in what ever form popular culture seem to have. Carl Jung says, these mass-events, of hystyria comes in cycles. He was a legit researcher, a psychologist. It is all in our minds. They perturb the electro-magnetic energy, and they seem to trick our eyes. Remember when Satan appeared as a man, to the Prophet, and the battle of badr? There were 313 men against a thousand. When the angels decented, he fled the battle. They have the capability to apear as men. Like what 72 chapter says, those who seek refugee in men of Jinss are at clear a loss.
  6. Jinns- A different perspective

    "Why am I arguing, that humans work with these creatures? Watch how the US military responded so fast when multitudes of people in Austrailia witnessed a UFO event, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcQ0ocvpyh0, (I really recommend you see this. This actually shows the US military had acces to these tech. Who made them is a different question) the machines they saw, bends light, witnessed by multiple people, in the vicinity at the event in school. These crafts are not man-made. I say it is these same people, after WW2, that the Quran speaks about. It doesn't say it directly. But it is very specific and clear when we connect the dots, because the wording is precise. " actual evidence. Over 200 witnesses, and one missing child from the event.
  7. Jinns- A different perspective

    Some men can gain spiritual connection to these orbs of lights. These men are of particular religion, like what was indicated by the Quran, a ban on a town, and when they are released a group among them will reclaim the town back. They will pass by palestine, and drink from the water. They will call the people of heaven and declare war on them and in the mean time will aquire power over us. No nationality, no borders, the world is smaller. We will enter a new phase. For the world to become small, a nuclear war must ensue. This will occur very soon. And soon their lord, mesiah, will come along and save us all from misery. All acording to their plans. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6371932/videoplayer/vi1597945369 Video of them making contact. The orbs are very far away, above the clouds above the planes.
  8. Jinns- A different perspective

    But we disagree on a fundamental concept, the jinns are real. And are seperate from us.
  9. Jinns- A different perspective

    I am not an atheist by the way. I don't know why i have that on.
  10. Jinns- A different perspective

    Interesting take. From the perspective of new, aged view I have something similar. Jinns are made of smokeless fire, and are actually UFO sightings. I found this comment on Jeremy corbell, a film director, he is making a film about Skinwalker Ranch, there are some strange orbs there, cutting the ears of cattles, and mutilating them. Teleporting them miles away and throwing them away from the top breaking their legs. I believe they are Jinns. The same capibilities, Solomon (pbuh) ordered them to do, they do as well in the ranch. They appear in 37'th degree north west in US. The pentagon, US, recent wiki-leaks showed they actually hired, phd researchers to the ranch to work out what is happening. The ranches around the area, had navaho, people, thousands of years, natives, they are too afraid to speak about the "spirits" they have it in their cultures. The researchers there still working, report confusion, and wierd occurences. Around the work area, almost as if "they can" predict their next moves. This indicates, they know what is going on in our minds, a caracteristics of the jinns. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDQthrmqsWY&frags=pl%2Cwn https://youtu.be/Gi6XNjiEHCc Longer explaintion from the journalist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-zj-YYaFkk&frags=pl%2Cwn This incredible analysis was sent to Jeremy Corbell about the strange "light orbs", it argues, the light orbs are just another form of life forms, which was explicitly mentioned in the Quran. "They are made of smokeless fire". Researchers in recent serious, science field, argues, that plasma, can self-assembly, and orginize in cells, and operate like chemical reactions and abide by thermodynamical rules. In theory, plasma could produce life forms. Plasma, property are smoke-less fire. I.e. they don't emit, any bi-product and exists in a hyper state. Not to mention, dark-energy, dark-matter, might also behave in a similar fashion, but this is not related to plasma yet. We have much to learn. https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn4174-plasma-blobs-hint-at-new-form-of-life/ " Hey Jeremy, I wonder if you read my previous comment on your Bob Lazor blog post, in early February. I indicated that there is substantial evidence that the Quran has provided signs on the UFO phenomenon. Especially regarding the Skinwalker ranch subject. I am excited to see what more evidence, there is on the Skinwalker ranch. I have one important question, please answer if you see this. Did you see any pictures, of a cow, mutilation where their ears are cut of? You can answer this question without reading the rest. Up to you. I will just give you the reasoning why I am asking you this question. The Quran speaks about there is a "hyper-world", a world we can't see, and these creatures, made of smokeless fire[energy], are transversing space together with us humans, and some of them are teaching us to cut off ears of cattle, for bringing vain ideas, and deviating from the path, monotheism sets us, i.e. worshiping him alone and not any other deities, gods. I suspect they take us with them, teaches us and provide for us. 55:33 O company of the jinn and humankind, if you are able to penetrate through the regions of the heavens and the earth, then penetrate. You will not penetrate except with an all-binding authority. It indicates, that there are men among us, that travel with them into space. Many claims of abductees say they have seen humans with them. Here the book, claims, he, had recorded their [the jinns] conservation among themselves; 72:12 "And we have become certain that we will never cause failure to God upon earth, nor can we escape Him by flight " Because it is his domain after all. Among them are evil ones, that guide man. 72:10 "And we do not know, whether evil is intended for those on earth or whether their Lord intends for them a right course." They have no idea, what their purpose is. I gave the explanation, in a previous comment, it is largely inspired by Carl Jung's, idea of dreams. The Quran indicates they guide and structure our thinking, leading us to evil or good. They are smokeless fire, i.e. energy, they confuse people, just like what they did to the researchers at skinwalker ranch. The point is, they deviate us from the path. The Quran accounts, there is jealousy among some of them, because god, has favored us, over them, not in intellect but in quality of innocence and our deeds. [The chief of Jinns account, is recorded in the quran] And I will mislead them, and I will arouse in them [sinful] desires, and I will command them so they will CUT the ears of cattle, and I will command them so they will change the creation of Allah ." And whoever takes Satan as an ally instead of Allah has certainly sustained a clear loss. 4:119 I just want to know, if you have knowledge of, that the majority of cattle mutilations have cut their ear off. And if there are any changes in the cattle. The abductees says that the creatures show them their craft and travels with them, maybe they even teach them. These acts are solely in purpose of deviating us from the clear path of God. Bringing forth- new age ##. type religion of "gods" or "spirits". The ancient people of north-america knows this and their whole world view operates with many polytheistic ideas. Separate from the Quran, there are hadiths, or inspired accounts from the prophet, dreams of inspiration of verses of Quran. He speaks about a very powerful people, that takes over the earth in waves, over long periods. Islamic eschatology, clearly speaks of an alien invasion, orchestrated by a group of power people. The Quran specifically says there will be released a people when they return to a town they were banished from, it doesn't mention which town, but a town. “But there is a ban on a town which We have destroyed: that they [the people of the town] shall not return [to reclaim that town as their own]; until Gog and Magog are let through [their barrier] and they swiftly spread out in every direction [replicating themselves amongst all the peoples of the world].” (Qur’an 21:95-96) Nawaas ibn Sam’aan reported that Prophet said "God will send Gog and Magog, swiftly swarming from every mound. They will pass the lake of Tiberias [in Palestine] and will drink everything that is in it. Then the last of them will pass by and will say, ‘There used to be water here once. " These people are from israel. They will make an alliance with them, and order a false flag attack in the near future. They the spirits, contact some of those men from the tribe, schemeing against the world order. Here they will orchestrate a fake alien invasion, and initiating star wars; "Gog and Magog will fire their arrows into the Sky, and they will fall back to earth with something like blood on them. Gog and Magog will say, 'We have defeated the people of earth, and overcome the people of HEAVEN." Ibn Maajah, Kitaab al-Fitan, (Hadith 4080), 2/1364. Ahmad, Musnad, 2/510, 511. I.e. when they claim they defeated the people of heaven, they in the process have defeated us. They exert their power over us. Muslims, don't understand the text, and can't think outside the box. The truth is, Gog and Magog, storyline, is also part of Alexander, romance storyline. These are borrowed stories, told in a way that is meaningful. There are clear differences. I can go more into that. But the differences are what makes the cut. The wordings are heavy and precise. Recording, tales, myths, in religious books, only serves one purpose, to make the archetypical personal and real, and relate to every potential age. Why am I arguing, that humans work with these creatures? Watch how the US military responded so fast when multitudes of people in Austrailia witnessed a UFO event, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcQ0ocvpyh0, (I really recommend you see this. This actually shows the US military had acces to these tech. Who made them is a different question) the machines they saw, bends light, witnessed by multiple people, in the vicinity at the event in school. These crafts are not man-made. I say it is these same people, after WW2, that the Quran speaks about. It doesn't say it directly. But it is very specific and clear when we connect the dots, because the wording is precise. "
  11. In the Iron chapter, i am sceptic of the method you used. So if you count from the beginning of the chapter for finding let us say Oxygen, atomic number and you count and you find that it is mentioned before 16[the weight of O], so what do you do, and you might later realize that it is exactly mention also in the 16th word from the beginning. So that would not count according to me. Also did you find all of the atomic weights from this method, i.e. counting from the start of the chapter, and up until the first mention of the name of the atom? What about those atom name that are also mentioned by name but the count is not corresponding to the weight of the atom. Surely you haven't counted all 120 different atoms. Please answer my two posts.
  12. andalusi How do you get this form of search" http://corpus.quran.com/qurandictionary.jsp?q=$kr#" No matter what i do i get this " http://corpus.quran.com/qurandictionary.jsp?q=$hr" for month i want the search result to give, So and so XX number of times.
  13. Why I Don't Believe

    (link removed by admin - please wait until you become a full member before posting links) A thought to you muslim people
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