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  1. Why Did America Invade Iraq?

    ""We're facing a radical ideology with unalterable objectives: to enslave whole nations and intimidate the world," he said." surely he was talking about PNAC and neo-conservatism here? what do people think?
  2. George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq' President told Palestinians God also talked to him about Middle East peace Ewen MacAskill The Guardian, Friday 7 October 2005 George Bush believes he is on a mission from God, according to the politician Nabil Shaath. Photograph: Charles Dharapak/AP George Bush has claimed he was on a mission from God when he launched the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, according to a senior Palestinian politician in an interview to be broadcast by the BBC later this month. Mr Bush revealed the extent of his religious fervour when he met a Palestinian delegation during the israeli-Palestinian summit at the Egpytian resort of Sharm el-Sheikh, four months after the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003. One of the delegates, Nabil Shaath, who was Palestinian foreign minister at the time, said: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I am driven with a mission from God'. God would tell me, 'George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did. And then God would tell me 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq'. And I did." Mr Bush went on: "And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East'. And, by God, I'm gonna do it." Mr Bush, who became a born-again Christian at 40, is one of the most overtly religious leaders to occupy the White House, a fact which brings him much support in middle America. Soon after, the israeli daily newspaper Haaretz carried a Palestinian transcript of the meeting, containing a version of Mr Bush's remarks. But the Palestinian delegation was reluctant publicly to acknowledge its authenticity. The BBC persuaded Mr Shaath to go on the record for the first time for a three-part series on israeli-Palestinian diplomacy: Elusive Peace, which begins on Monday. Religion also surfaced as an issue when Mr Bush and Tony Blair were reported to have prayed together in 2002 at his ranch at Crawford, Texas - the summit at which the invasion of Iraq was agreed in principle. Mr Blair has consistently refused to admit or deny the claim. Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian prime minister, who was also part of the delegation at Sharm el-Sheikh, told the BBC programme that Mr Bush had said: "I have a moral and religious obligation. I must get you a Palestinian state. And I will." Mr Shaath's comments came as Mr Bush delivered a speech yesterday aimed at bolstering US support for the Iraq war. He revealed that the US and its partners had disrupted at least 10 serious al-Qaida plots since September 11, including three planned attacks in the US. "Because of this steady progress, the enemy is wounded - but the enemy is still capable of global operations," he said. He added that Islamic radicals had used a series of excuses to justify their attacks, from conflict with the israelis to the Crusades 1,000 years ago. "We're facing a radical ideology with unalterable objectives: to enslave whole nations and intimidate the world," he said. He conceded that al-Qaida, led in Iraq by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, and other insurgents had gained ground in Iraq but the US would not leave until security had been established. "Some observers also claim that America would be better off by cutting our losses and leaving Iraq now. This is a dangerous illusion, refuted with a simple question: Would the United States and other free nations be more safe, or less safe, with Zarqawi and Bin Laden in control of Iraq, its people, and its resources?" Mr Bush asked. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa
  3. The Syrian Uprising

    the Kurds are also fighting ISIS, and have stories of persecution when their villages and towns have bee occupied.
  4. Al-Qaida's Treatment Of Captured Christian Nuns Syria

    Al Qa'ida was created by America. It is true - it is most unlike those trained by America NOT to abuse nuns. "...Although terribly frightened, Jean carried on her work. “Things are so much worse, it’s unbelievable,” she wrote to a friend in May 1980, “People are being killed daily. We just found out that three people from our area had been taken, tortured, and hacked to death.” Not too long after that, two of her best friends were murdered immediately after walking Jean home. She thought about leaving El Salvador. “I almost could,” she wrote, “except for the children, the poor, bruised victims of this insanity. Who would care for them? Whose heart could be so staunch as to favor the reasonable thing in a sea of their tears and loneliness? Not mine, dear friend, not mine.” On the evening of December 2, 1980 Jean and Dorothy drove to Comalapa International Airport to pick up Maura and Ita, who were arriving from Nicaragua. On the way home the women were stopped by the National Guard, kidnapped at gunpoint, raped and executed. Their bodies were left to rot on the side of the road. The Salvadoran regime claimed that the women had been the victims of a robbery. This was a very convenient lie for the incoming Reagan administration, which was obligated to prove to Congress that El Salvador was making progress on human rights as a condition for continued U.S. aid. Reagan was unburdened by any of the human rights concerns that his predecessor Jimmy Carter claimed to care so much about, and the new president turned a blind eye to the most horrendous abuses as he ramped up military and economic aid to El Salvador. Secretary of State Alexander Haig even had the audacity to go before Congress and declare that the four American churchwomen may have been responsible for their own deaths. Your tax dollars at work. (photo: Susan Meisalas) There is now absolutely no doubt as to who is responsible for this barbaric crime. There are, of course, the four National Guardsmen who abducted, raped and murdered the women. Then there’s Major Lizandro Zepeda Velasco, who planned the operation. There’s Luis Antonio Colindres Aleman, who gave the actual order to the kill the four women, and his boss, General Oscar Edgardo Casanova Vejar, commander of the guard unit at the airport that carried out the attack. Colonel Carlos Eugenio Vides Casanova knew all about the churchwomen killings and participated in the ensuing cover-up. General Jose Guillermo Garcia failed to investigate the barbaric murders. All five of these men were proud graduates of the United States Army School of the Americas, then located in Panama (it has since been relocated to Ft. Benning, Georgia). They’d been trained in kidnapping, torture and assassination by the best and brightest minds of U.S. military and intelligence planning. Shockingly, Vides Casanova and Garcia would later be rewarded with U.S. residency. Robert White, U.S. ambassador to El Salvador when the four churchwomen were murdered, knew right away who was responsible. “I find it difficult to believe that the U.S. government did not know there was legitimate reason to believe that Casanova and Vides Casanova and Garcia were all guilty of either ordering or covering up the killing,” he said. “That they have been let off not only with their reputations intact, but with the right of residence in the United States, does not serve the ends of justice,” he added. Top Carter officials knew that American-trained Salvadoran officers were responsible for the rape and murder of the four American churchwomen. That’s when President Carter finally cut off military assistance to El Salvador. But within weeks he resumed aid to the country’s murderous regime after the guerrillas launched a major nationwide offensive. So much for human rights. Bloody Reagan Once Reagan took over, the aid really started flowing. The only problem was that the president was required by law to certify that El Salvador was making progress on human rights. Without the certification, Congress couldn’t authorize aid. Reagan knew the full extent of the Salvadoran regime’s brutality, but the new president was hell-bent on crushing the popular uprising in impoverished El Salvador that he felt was threatening U.S. commercial and strategic control over the region. And so it was that the Reagan folks tried to blame the four slain churchwomen for their own deaths. Jeane Kirkpatrick, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations and Alexander M. Haig, Reagan’s Secretary of State, shamefully attempted to sully the reputations of the four martyrs while the Reagan administration made little effort to see justice served. Ambassador White sent a secret cable to Secretary Haig expressing his dismay. “It is amazing to me that the [state] Department can state publicly that the investigation of the nuns’ deaths is proceeding satisfactorily,” he wrote, “This is not backed up by any reporting from this embassy. I reiterate for the record that in my judgment there is no sign of any sincere attempt to locate and punish those responsible for this atrocity.” Said Congressman Robert G. Torricelli (D-NJ): “It is now clear that while the Reagan administration was certifying human rights progress in El Salvador, they knew the terrible truth that the Salvadoran military was engaged in a widespread campaign of terror and torture.” “The Salvadoran military knew that we knew, and they knew when we covered up the truth, it was a clear signal that, at a minimum, we tolerated this,” lamented Ambassador White. The United States would continue to fully support the brutal Salvadoran government and arm, fund and train its death squads at the School of the Americas throughout the 1980s. A year after the four churchwomen were slain, the most horrific massacre in the Western Hemisphere occurred at El Mozote, where a thousand innocent children, almost all women, children and the elderly, were slaughtered by an army unit trained by the United States and staffed full of officers who graduated from the School of the Americas." http://morallowground.com/2010/12/02/on-this-day-1980-american-nuns-kidnapped-raped-murdered-by-american-trained-salvadoran-death-squad/ i'm glad these nuns were released by their captors. Perhaps this is why the US is still talking aboout "arming and training the rebels". The rebels are simply not bloodthirtsy enough yet?
  5. 911 Another Point Of View

    Recent studies by psychologists and social scientists in the US and UK suggest that contrary to mainstream media stereotypes, those labeled “conspiracy theorists” appear to be saner than those who accept the official versions of contested events. The most recent study was published on July 8th by psychologists Michael J. Wood and Karen M. Douglas of the University of Kent (UK). Entitled “What about Building 7? A social psychological study of online discussion of 9/11 conspiracy theories,” the study compared “conspiracist” (pro-conspiracy theory) and “conventionalist” (anti-conspiracy) comments at news websites. The authors were surprised to discover that it is now more conventional to leave so-called conspiracist comments than conventionalist ones: “Of the 2174 comments collected, 1459 were coded as conspiracist and 715 as conventionalist.” In other words, among people who comment on news articles, those who disbelieve government accounts of such events as 9/11 and the JFK assassination outnumber believers by more than two to one. That means it is the pro-conspiracy commenters who are expressing what is now the conventional wisdom, while the anti-conspiracy commenters are becoming a small, beleaguered minority. Perhaps because their supposedly mainstream views no longer represent the majority, the anti-conspiracy commenters often displayed anger and hostility: “The research… showed that people who favoured the official account of 9/11 were generally more hostile when trying to persuade their rivals.” Additionally, it turned out that the anti-conspiracy people were not only hostile, but fanatically attached to their own conspiracy theories as well. According to them, their own theory of 9/11 - a conspiracy theory holding that 19 Arabs, none of whom could fly planes with any proficiency, pulled off the crime of the century under the direction of a guy on dialysis in a cave in Afghanistan - was indisputably true. The so-called conspiracists, on the other hand, did not pretend to have a theory that completely explained the events of 9/11: “For people who think 9/11 was a government conspiracy, the focus is not on promoting a specific rival theory, but in trying to debunk the official account.” In short, the new study by Wood and Douglas suggests that the negative stereotype of the conspiracy theorist - a hostile fanatic wedded to the truth of his own fringe theory - accurately describes the people who defend the official account of 9/11, not those who dispute it. Additionally, the study found that so-called conspiracists discuss historical context (such as viewing the JFK assassination as a precedent for 9/11) more than anti-conspiracists. It also found that the so-called conspiracists to not like to be called “conspiracists” or “conspiracy theorists.” Both of these findings are amplified in the new book Conspiracy Theory in America by political scientist Lance deHaven-Smith, published earlier this year by the University of Texas Press. Professor deHaven-Smith explains why people don’t like being called “conspiracy theorists”: The term was invented and put into wide circulation by the CIA to smear and defame people questioning the JFK assassination! “The CIA’s campaign to popularize the term ‘conspiracy theory’ and make conspiracy belief a target of ridicule and hostility must be credited, unfortunately, with being one of the most successful propaganda initiatives of all time.” In other words, people who use the terms “conspiracy theory” and “conspiracy theorist” as an insult are doing so as the result of a well-documented, undisputed, historically-real conspiracy by the CIA to cover up the JFK assassination. That campaign, by the way, was completely illegal, and the CIA officers involved were criminals; the CIA is barred from all domestic activities, yet routinely breaks the law to conduct domestic operations ranging from propaganda to assassinations. DeHaven-Smith also explains why those who doubt official explanations of high crimes are eager to discuss historical context. He points out that a very large number of conspiracy claims have turned out to be true, and that there appear to be strong relationships between many as-yet-unsolved “state crimes against democracy.” An obvious example is the link between the JFK and RFK assassinations, which both paved the way for presidencies that continued the Vietnam War. According to DeHaven-Smith, we should always discuss the “Kennedy assassinations” in the plural, because the two killings appear to have been aspects of the same larger crime. Psychologist Laurie Manwell of the University of Guelph agrees that the CIA-designed “conspiracy theory” label impedes cognitive function. She points out, in an article published in American Behavioral Scientist (2010), that anti-conspiracy people are unable to think clearly about such apparent state crimes against democracy as 9/11 due to their inability to process information that conflicts with pre-existing belief. In the same issue of ABS, University of Buffalo professor Steven Hoffman adds that anti-conspiracy people are typically prey to strong “confirmation bias” - that is, they seek out information that confirms their pre-existing beliefs, while using irrational mechanisms (such as the “conspiracy theory” label) to avoid conflicting information. The extreme irrationality of those who attack “conspiracy theories” has been ably exposed by Communications professors Ginna Husting and Martin Orr of Boise State University. In a 2007 peer-reviewed article entitled “Dangerous Machinery: ‘Conspiracy Theorist’ as a Transpersonal Strategy of Exclusion,” they wrote: “If I call you a conspiracy theorist, it matters little whether you have actually claimed that a conspiracy exists or whether you have simply raised an issue that I would rather avoid… By labeling you, I strategically exclude you from the sphere where public speech, debate, and conflict occur.” But now, thanks to the internet, people who doubt official stories are no longer excluded from public conversation; the CIA’s 44-year-old campaign to stifle debate using the “conspiracy theory” smear is nearly worn-out. In academic studies, as in comments on news articles, pro-conspiracy voices are now more numerous - and more rational - than anti-conspiracy ones. No wonder the anti-conspiracy people are sounding more and more like a bunch of hostile, paranoid cranks. PressTV - New studies: ‘Conspiracy theorists’ sane; government dupes crazy, hostile
  6. Murdoch And The Bskyb Shenanigans

    from the same blog page, there is more here than just BSkyB: 12. At 16:29 13th Jul 2011, You wrote: these are notes from monday night's Newsnight,, much has become obvious since. (just 2 days!!!! :sl: ) ---------- OFFCOM!!!! ***NOT**** "monopolies commission". *That* is why they have pulled the offer to "hands-off Sky News"!! offcom to check the "fit and proper" ownership of the current BSkyB shares. It is disgraceful the Govt could allow this deal to hang around, - unless they WANT him to own the rest of the company, the most important media platform in the UK? (they do, it became clear last night) the police are worried about the use of blackmail by murdoch's empire. there are many movies where the mafia threaten witnesses. Makes you think, doesn't it? southern cross: the Govt should blanket-renegotiate the contract with the SC/landowners, it is unconscionable that this Govt can STILL be moving ahead with "bringing private providers in social services", when it is becoming abundantly clear that even many CURRENT privatised services are been run corruptly, for the benefit of share-holders and not the Public they are meant to serve. Now it is possible the tax-payer will have to pick up the multi-£m tab for these care-homes, eventually, but it goes without saying the incredible profits will remain with those who stole them. tunisia: (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_transitionculture(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/shop/the-transition-handbook/"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_transitionculture(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/shop/the-transition-handbook/[/url] (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetdesertec(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetdesertec(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/[/url] Norway, they need investment, to create jobs. You have an investment fund that needs a new direction (what with the shares/financial system going 'pop'), could there be a match-up? Form locally-owned cooperative structures, and transfer as much tech as needed? Such an investment would completely complement Norway's own Geo-Thermal sustainable energy production, as well. Plus the long-distance transmission lines will also benefit Norway itself in the long-run. world cup: that interviewed Qatari [bleep] knows full well that they intend to use the image of drunk rowdy Westerners, to shock their people at 'our' behaviour. This was a catastrophic decision, fed by overt corruption. The amusing thing is how it is all unravelling, it will be even more amusing if it rebounds on the Quatari elite, and the event becomes the rallying cry for freedom amongst the Qatari public. Even though they WILL find Western Football Fan behaviour incomprehensible. funny watching a clever liar from another country when you can see through it isn't it?? :sl: It'll get even more amusing when he has to start defending the clear incompatibility of the forces he is trying to bring together - for his own ends. if it DOES kick off (pun wasn't intended) in Qatar, i fully expect to see a repeat of Saddam's Tariq Aziz/Assad's "assurances" all events in Syria are caused by "foreign instigators"/camoron blaming student/union activism rather than the Qatari elite's own failed policies. BSkyB again: coulson's employe, cameron, has possibly help murdoch kick the bid into the log grass! (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetgetsmileyface(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/new/angry/9.gif"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetgetsmileyface(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/new/angry/9.gif[/url] unfortunately for Murdoch, the ability for pubs to watch streaming football from the Net (judges found that legal, recently), instead of paying from Sky, will cause the share-price to do something as well. It is somewhat clear that NewsCorp is NOT a "fit and proper" broadcaster", and it cannot be overstated how much better the behaviour of the BBC. The shares in Sky owned by NewsCorp should be removed by Ofcom (BECAUSE murdoch might very well remain in his post after all, or his son), by the regulator, and then the Govt should step in and purchase the shares when it is low, and give them to the BBC. the BBC would benefit greatly from having an ISP platform, and could even start to reduce its need upon the Licence-fee. A far better purchase by the UK Govt than the Bank-Shares Bail-Out. News-Int is part of fox - the right-wing media group that runs Fauxnews, the pro-war "news" service. Still a group you want running the UKs strategic inofrmation highway? Btw, every email you sent via Sky broadband is potentially being tapped and read. Or do you think News-KKKorp and Murdoch care about your rights to privacy? Its time and past to get rid of them entirely. Shame we have News-KKKorp employees working in Downing St, and no, i'm not talking about Coulson. excellent report by Peston! Again!! ;-D (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetyoutube(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/watch?v=7sPUpKGI1Z4"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetyoutube(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/watch?v=7sPUpKGI1Z4[/url] (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetyoutube(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/watch?v=chqi8m4CEEY"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetyoutube(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/watch?v=chqi8m4CEEY[/url] Ai Weiwei: China, if you imprison those who criticise you, you will end up creating the very revolution you fear. And "counter-revolutionary" simply doesn't wash anymore, stop behaving like an infant. Start treating your People as the adults you want them to be. Free, Liberated, Questioning, Self-Motivated. It is not questioning and critical citizens you should be careful of, it is those driven by money who strip and exploit the rights of others, and ultimately corrupt a society from within. Whilst there are now many such in the ranks of the CCP, hopefully you are not *entirely* corrupted. let your artists go, in every way you only harm yourselves by imprisoning them. And that will eventually harm China itself. ------------------------------ And: the highly recommended Transition Town Handbook, mentioned above, for those not blessed with pockets of Western money: (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetmastt(contact admin if its a beneficial link).uk/node/457"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetmastt(contact admin if its a beneficial link).uk/node/457[/url] peace.
  7. Murdoch And The Bskyb Shenanigans

    the later post, same BBC blog, after the program Newsnight to which it refers. There might be much of note later in it to readers across the world: Wednesday 13 July 2011 00:10am on 14 Jul 2011 harriet harmen was correct: people have lost faith with big institutions. Here's a terrible thought: perhaps that was what was intended by some of those who thought up the original policies!! the solution is a clean-up, it might have pained you at the time, but it is because MPs went through already that people even trust them slightly on the Press and Police. I'm more referring to backbenchers, normal MPs, rather than the ministerial rank, and of both main parties. I think people generally trusted the Lib-Dems more on these matters anyway, disregarding recent leaders. simon hughes: now(!) we hear about the nobbling against those who wanted an Inquiry in 2003!! Neither labour nor tories put the Judicial inquiry in place when they have been in power, it is only now the Public are partly in power that they have been forced to do so. But the Public could only put on the pressure when they knew about what was happening! THIS is the tremendous power of the Press, right there! In liberal theory, it is the communication to the Public what is happening, so they can make informed decisions come Polling time. When that information is deliberately distorted, it prevents this flow of accurate information. Even worse, when there is a threat to blackmail individual policy-makers due to information gathered secretly, or illegally by the press, policies can be changed or made without even the vaguest knowledge of the Public, in favour of those *or their desired policies) who own the media platforms! The Press, and free-flow of information, are ***VITAL*** in a Democracy. If the Press are owned by a few "media-barons", then information is easily buried or even distorted, just as if it was the State owning all the Press. a thought: if we'd had a decent Press, then the Internet would not have taken off as a source of information. It was the KKKorporate blockage (just as if it was State monopoly) *ITSELF* causing evolution/honest reporting to flow around them. Nature/God/GAIA is like that, ...smart huh? ;D so, the press: it will be vastly harder to prevent/discuss the "cuts" program if the press can use potentially illegally-gained blackmail, - and how can there possibly be a quality debate when the press and news are being deliberately used to undermine honest, decent discussion about the issues? Remember how the "AV" Campaign was fought, the dirty tricks? This is how, with the collusion of certain elements of the Press, issues the Public deserve a good discussion on are turned into slig-fodder by members of the Tabloid Elite. lovely tory woman, again agreed with her on a lot (*will* remember her name sometime! :sl: ) but she forgets that it is extremely difficult to have a good debate about cuts, Europe and the economy, and have the tabloids/Press joining in in an adult manner. So yes, those issues are important, but the platform upon which those discussions are held is also important. So this issue of phone-hacking, potential blackmail and Press-pressure, and even the Police involvement at the highest levels, are all ALSO important to the Public. i think People are realising that accurate information about the World and what is actually happening, is very important. I don't think the People will have forgotten this next week, because every ##, histrionic scare-story to take their minds off what *is* important will remind them of it. (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetbbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/fromthewebteam/2011/07/wednesday_13_july_2011.html?postid=109675081#comment_109675081"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetbbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/fromt...mment_109675081[/url] ------------------ for global readers, in many parts of the World, remember that the UK is supposed to have a "free press", largely because it is owned by private corporations, instead of the State/Church. this is a false idea, a Free Press is more like the forums upon the Internet, without central/corporate control. this is why the Arab Spring gained shape - the communication between equals, who had a stake in being honest. The same is true of what is happening in Europe, even if it seems more economic to most non-westerners. Information is spreading, becoming more equal, and it is liberating, slowly, individuals and groups across the entire World. and about time, too. best of luck, all my friends, the struggle goes on. peace and love, N. xxx
  8. Murdoch And The Bskyb Shenanigans

    i couldn't even post a link to this blog entry!!
  9. disabled0335: i quite agree. its amusing how these "Professors" of subjects feel quite free to mouth off and insult everyone who looks at the world differently, off their own speciality interests, but they take incredible umbrage if someone does it to their own fields. and then they wonder why "religionists" feel such worry about secularism. its sad, and harms their own influence tremendously. peace and love. :sl:
  10. 2. Open Letter To Israel.

    tom, the PLO under Arafat became corrupt, and Abbas was chosen (due to incredible pressure by israel and the US) to continue such corruption, and de-legitimise the Palestinian cause. This is another reason why Hamas came under such extreme attack (if you consider labelling them Terrorist, putting sanctions on Gaza, and ultimately invading (slaughtering over a thousand inhabitants of the Gaza-Ghetto) "extreme" - i do). But that is NOT THE ISSUE - the issue is the safety and survival of the Palestinian people, and if having Abbas in that peace process helps, then so be it. Perspective, peeps, Perspective!
  11. Subject: Wednesday 13 July 2011 Posting: 3rd time lucky? #11 part 1, suitably edited to avoid legal action: Subject: Wednesday 13 July 2011 Posting: notes from monday to come, but from tues night: it has become obvious that cameron and milliband are fully supporting News Corp, Murdoch's vehicle. Here's a 'mental exercise' - imagine that they ARE supporting murdoch, they not only wish to bid to go through successfully, they also intend to sell off the BBC as well. Just as a mental exercise. now, look at events again. First, murdoch puts a bid in, the Condemn(ed) put Jeremy Hunt in charge, WHO IT COULD NOT BE CLEARER was ordered to put this through, but look as though he was reluctant about it. The scandal hits again - (you remember, the one where the Prime Minister knowingly employs a senior Murdochrat associated with **blackmail potential** phone-hacking.) - and the Govt is FORCED by Public pressure to re-examine the case. Cable has referred the matter for 'monopoly considerations', and Murdoch laughably offers to take his grubby paws off Sky News - for 5/6 years. Because in 5/6 years we the Public will have all forgotten this, and News KKKorporation can continue its plan of total control of UK media. This is an organisation that for years has bribed police and officials, has used (as is now being reported) blackmail, has turned the UK press into a syphilis infected swamp, been a central plank in "the war on Islam", and corrupted UK political life almost from top to bottom. Certainly the *top*, anyway. so what is happening now? Murdoch's puppets, cameron and milliband (who you might remember were quite willing to attack rebekah, but **NOT** a Murdoch directly), are STILL HOPING MURDOCH WILL REMAIN IN BSKYB, which is why they are advising News Corp to drop the current bid. Because it is becoming clear, even to brain-dead murdoch readers, that THIS IS NOT A FIT AND PROPER ORGANISATION TO RUN ***ANY*** OF THE UK'S MEDIA!!!!!! what should be happening, in any sane democracy, would be Offcom deciding News-KKKorp should sell its current holdings of BSkyB. instead, 'they' are hoping that two things will have happened, by the time this Inquiry ends (or even begins): 1. I'm/angered celebs/cross politicians are no longer around. 2. the Public have forgotten. a very interesting part of all this for observers, is watching how the KKKorporates control emotional energy through the media. The 'sacrifice' of the NotW, the intended 'sacrifice' of rebekah, and the proposed 'sacrifice' of the other 3 papers are all to give the impression to the Public that "something has been done, now go back to sleep". News KKKorporation owns and controls FauxNews, and this is a prime example of the quality of its message - imagine ANY NN presenter behaving like this? This is the future of reporting our kids will grow up in if News KKKorp continues to hold the shares in BSkyB: (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetyoutube(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/watch?v=2IwIRNM5noY"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetyoutube(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/watch?v=2IwIRNM5noY[/url] oh, one other point to make on this: that News KKKorp executive claiming "murdoch is gone" - very simple, if he is still in his job next week, AND murdoch is still there as well, then his whole presentation was a kkkorporate snow-job, intended to, once again, "shut the Public up". these people are vile, and they do NOT deserve to control, or own, ANY of the UKs media. It is utterly disgraceful our 'political leaders' are attempting to help this company, and to ignore Public opinion. But then, that goes with just about everything they do. Worth remembering that, when they preach platitudes on TV. ps, annoying as it may be for readers to have these posts scattered around, its even more annoying having to try to edit them to get them published - often takes longer than the writing itself. comments #11, #13, #15: (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetbbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/fromthewebteam/2011/07/wednesday_13_july_2011.html#comments"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetbbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/fromt...1.html#comments[/url]
  12. (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetbbc.co.uk/programmes/b00hs8zp"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetbbc.co.uk/programmes/b00hs8zp[/url] (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetdailymail.co.uk/news/article-1145431/Now-farm-help-teach-world-live-oil-says-woman-banished-plastic-bags-town.html"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetdailymail.co.uk/news/article-11...-bags-town.html[/url] current torrent: (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_isohunt(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/torrents/?ihq=a+farm+for+the+future"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_isohunt(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/torrents/?ihq=a+farm+for+the+future[/url] ----------------- (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_pavanvan.wordpress(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/2010/03/06/iceland-does-the-right-thing-refuses-to-pay-absurd-debt/"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_pavanvan.wordpress(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/2010/03/06/i...ay-absurd-debt/[/url] (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetsocialistworld(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/doc/4160"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetsocialistworld(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/doc/4160[/url] (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetsodahead(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/united-states/setting-an-example-iceland-refuses-to-pay/blog-134728/"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetsodahead(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/united-states/sett...ay/blog-134728/[/url] ---------------------------- (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetbbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/fromthewebteam/2011/06/monday_6_june_2011.html?postid=109283492#comment_109283492"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetbbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/fromt...mment_109283492[/url] no further comment to add for now, m'lud. [edited to add torrent link]
  13. (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetnewstatesman(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/uk-politics/2011/06/long-term-government-democracy#"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_you are not allowed to post links yetnewstatesman(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/uk-politics/20...ment-democracy#[/url] -------------- i note virtually all the 'opposition' to rowan's comments focussed upon any 'right' for him to express an opinion. Presumably therefore, they disagreed with the article, believing there was sufficient Public preview and discussion, and that these Fx. NHS reforms were detailed in the elections, or even mentioned in the farcical, stage-managed "Leaders Debates". the stream of comments after an article like this is often revealing, goes through phases in discussion, and nearly always stimulates thought from some posts. I'm sure this is part of what Doctor Rowan hoped to achieve, for such discussions can unlock ideas, and ultimately start to build the dynamism for guided change, in a direction at least most of us can grasp, and agree with. here is an irony: we are faced with a range of crisis, but our Govt is deliberately creating unnecessary others. The obvious solution is to demand business at least pay the amount of tax they should, they are after all profiting from working in this country, and should pay part of the costs of health, education, infrastructure, defence etc - just as people living here do. we need jobs, and we need the State to invest to create new locally owned companies, to employ people, to train people, and to pay taxes. And to make up the inevitable shortfall in imports coming our way. a few facts: Public Service bodies often are vastly more efficient with resources than Corporate. Equivalent care to the NHS from privately-owned for-profit medical companies would cost FAR more. The BBC far outperforms Fox/News International in creativity, quality and productivity, on a comparatively shoe-string budget. When schools are run for-profit, they either charge more, or give lower quality. When prisons are private, they have every incentive to make inmates into re-offenders. When Libraries are closed, and police-stations, and firemen fired, and it is suggested libraries can open in McDonalds, and the police in Tescos, it is very clear i think to everyone that something is going wrong. And that something "going wrong" is an ideology that blindly has faith in profit/money as the only motivator for humanity, - for privatisation, and for corporate statism run by Bankers and their Corporate keiretsu, an ideology that has claimed to improve living conditions for the majority, but in fact only benefits those aware that it is nothing but a scam, and use deregulation to make a private fortune. another fact: considering the minimm wage is FAR below the level of the Living Wage, itself not exactly bankers bonus level, then the Tory plan to stamp on the rates of benefits, to "make working pay", can only, and must even be intended to, INCREASE the amount of poverty and suffering in the UK. and again, this is simply never reported as such by the highly-paid commentators and editorials in the "free press" - completely owned-and-controlled by the Corporates, naturally. it is hardly curious the extremely wealthy use their power and influence to make the tax-burden fall on poorer, weaker people, it is sad however when this is taken to such extremes, even to the point of deliberatly inciting racial hatred to detract attention from the Wealth Gap. and it is much to be lauded that the Archbishop risked so much institutional, political and even social criticism to make these actually quite simple, obvious and essential points. it is a shame that the Govt "attacked" back, instead of listening to these mild criticisms that reflect so many millions of normal people's worries. it is heart-warming, even i am sure for ardent Old Lefties, to know the Heart is still in the CoE, and other UK Christian organisations, that they do still carry the true message of their founder. i think the Archbishop has done more in one week to reduce the decay of decades for the Church, even whilst that was absolutely not his intention. ---- sorry for the mess in the NS, they have a strange blogdog i couldn't get past. Rowan, you have done your Christian duty, thank you. I hope the Govt listens!!
  14. How To 'engage' British Muslims?

    Peace and Love. :sl:
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