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BATTLE FOR Islam

 

About the programme

Writer Ziauddin Sardar takes an epic journey to discover how Muslims in five different countries are trying to win back the soul of Islam from extremists.

 

Monday, 5 September, 2005

 

At 2100 BST on BBC Two

 

(www.)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/battle_for_islam/4177564.stm"]read more about it[/url]

 

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Im probably not gonna watch this, looking at the website, it seems like another program trying to put down Islam.

 

They are saying things like

"Even Sharia law, for many Muslims the bedrock of their faith, is being re-examined and in some countries radically reformed"

 

It is showing that apparently Shariah law needs to be changed and...

 

"It can be changed, modified and reformulated - in its entirety."

 

(www.)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/battle_for_islam/4203918.stm"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/batt...lam/4203918.stm[/url]

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I believe this is the person who regularly writes for Emel mag, i think he supports female 'Imams'! Although, it must be said he possesses good writing skills!

 

Apparently he was very popular in the 1980's on TV a lot too!

 

(www.)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_www.cis-ca(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/voices/s/sardar-mn.htm"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_www.cis-ca(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/voices/s/sardar-mn.htm[/url]

 

^^ a bit about him

 

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Everyone, if this turns out to be a dodgy programme, make sure you email the BBC.

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Yes, emailing them is important, as shown by the talk in Muslim unity convention. Brother Luffy contacted the BBC after Panorama program, and he got a reply from them. If many Muslims email, then they will certainly have to take note of it and see that things get changed.

(www.)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_www.gawaher(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/index.php?showtopic=18908"]Luffy's post: Letter From Bbc (re: Panorama)[/url]

 

They want to reform sharia law! Did they get the permission from Allah? :D

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ok, im going to be honest and i didnt bother watcing the whole programme...just saw about 2 mins of it and switched it over...

 

this is the bit i switched over from

 

-a hairdresser, saying she's a muslim and is cutting the hair of a ghair mehram...she wearing a t-shirt and jeans...and is saying "im a natural muslim, so i dont need to wear a jilbaab"....

 

hmm i personally feel, if Islamic programmes are going to be broadcasted on the TV , then they should stick to the Qur'an and Sunnah and Not inter-link culture into it or "personal views" from muslims.....and so InshALLAH they can portray the right image about Islam.

 

if these Islamic programmes are a form of dawah or whatever, then i can clearly see they are very misldeading.

 

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What do you expect? they are produced by non muslims and only get those muslims who fit in with their crtiteria.

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What do you expect? they are produced by non muslims and only get those muslims who it in with their crtiteria.

 

Salaam

 

Yes, Ive noticed this as well. A 'moderate' Muslim is one who to be honest only practices in a superficial way. Yet a person who prays 5 times a day, cares about Muslim issues throughout the world etc etc, is 'extreme'.

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It's true!!

 

Why is that so many Muslims now think that the only way to achieve 'real success' is by forgetting Islam?

 

I watched it, personally i thought it was very culturally-immersed! What was the purpose? To show that some Muslims have got closer to God, or rather reinterpreted Islam for their own liking!!

 

Allahu Alam!

 

May Allah swt open the eyes of those who appeared in the programme, to allow them to follow the Straight Path, :D

 

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Many Muslims are confusing their culture, for Islam.

When the parents themselves do not practice Islam, what will they teach their children?

 

The media is being choked with uneducated programmes on "Islam", even I'm getting tired of the weekly documentaries - "I'm a Muslim, not a Terrorist!" - or similarly idiotic titles. I can only imagine how tedious it is for non-Muslims to be bombarded with misinformation by young hopefulls, abusing their religion to get on TV.

 

 

Apparently this (www.)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4204820.stm"]article[/url] examines whether or not Islam is compatible with the West. It's a sensitive issue, which requires the wisdom of Muslim Scholars.

 

So who did the BBC consult?

A Pakistani woman, who's abusive father forced her into an arranged marraige. Eventually she ran away from home and broke ties with her family.

 

Does the article mention her understanding of Islam?

No, because her father believed women should not be educated!

 

In conclusion, her childhood was affected by a man who's traditional views were based on Pakistani culture, not Islam. Had he been a learned and practising Muslim, his children would have had a better upbringing.

 

This is obvious to the Muslims who read the article, but not so to the non-Muslim. Who is going to suffer another instance of propoganda by the UK's political tool, aka the BBC.

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Peace,

 

I'm a non-Muslim and I understood the article very well thank you very much! :D

 

The media is being choked with uneducated programmes on "Islam", even I'm getting tired of the weekly documentaries - "I'm a Muslim, not a Terrorist!" - or similarly idiotic titles. I can only imagine how tedious it is for non-Muslims to be bombarded with misinformation by young hopefulls, abusing their religion to get on TV.

 

Forgive me if my response is rather long winded but it needs to be to make my point.

What you believe in and what the people who blew themselves up in London believe in are very different things. Both you and the suicide bombers call what you believe in, "Islam". I have no doubt that you as an intelligent chap do not believe your religion (Islam) condones such an act, however the people who blew themselves up believed that their religion (Which they also call Islam) encourages such acts.

 

As a non-Muslim I (obviously) do not believe that God gave man any sorts of rules in the Bible or Qu'ran and Sunnah. Therefore when you say that Islam says "X" on an issue, while a different Muslim says Islam says "Y" on an issue, I do not believe that either of you are either correct or incorrect because as I said earlier I am not a believer, I do not believe that there is such thing as a single Islam, in the same way I do not believe there is a single correct way of following any belief system. (Whether that be Christianity, Sikhism, Hinduism, Socialism, Capitalism, Communism etc.)

 

So in the article you provided about the girl who came from an unfortunate family, you assert that she does not have enough knowledge of Islam to come on TV and say what she feels, I respectfully point out that from a non-Muslim perspective it is you who is in the wrong here. I respect your right to believe in your interpretation of Islam, but I also respect her right to believe in her interpretation of Islam. It makes little difference to me what any Muslim thinks Islam says on anything as long as it falls within the confines of the British legal system.

 

The boring list of documentaries on Islam that you see on television are written predominantly for a non-Muslim audience. That non-Muslim audience is not particularly concerned about which interpretation of Islam you consider correct or not, what matters to us non-Muslim's is what Muslim's think their Islam says.

 

I apologise for any rules I verged on breaking by saying any of this but I think it's an important point to make.

 

Eoin

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So in the article you provided about the girl who came from an unfortunate family, you assert that she does not have enough knowledge of Islam to come on TV and say what she feels, I respectfully point out that from a non-Muslim perspective it is you who is in the wrong here. I respect your right to believe in your interpretation of Islam, but I also respect her right to believe in her interpretation of Islam. It makes little difference to me what any Muslim thinks Islam says on anything as long as it falls within the confines of the British legal system.

 

The boring list of documentaries on Islam that you see on television are written predominantly for a non-Muslim audience. That non-Muslim audience is not particularly concerned about which interpretation of Islam you consider correct or not, what matters to us non-Muslim's is what Muslim's think their Islam says.

 

Complex issues, such as suicide bombings, should be shown from all perspectives.

 

However Islam is clear on matters of education, it is to be encouraged and especially among women. So to have one women speak out against Islam, because her dominant and backward father restricted her learning is clearly worng. She is blaming religion instead of culture. The two are different.

 

If you respect the 'interpretation' of Islam from someone who hasn't even studied the religion, then who is the bigger fool?

 

 

What personally annoys me, is we have many educated and well spoken Muslim scholars in the UK :D

They could appear on documentaries and give real interpretations of Islam. In a way to educate and benefit the viewers.

 

So why doesn't it happen?

Because the BBC prefers to show you 'tormented' women, who's Pakistani traditions have been confused for Islam. Or they will show 'moderate' Muslims, or extremist self-taught 'scholars'.

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