Sikh's And Hindu's

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The link you provided which states that Buddhists deified the Buddha is incorrect. there is one small sect known as pureland that has, but they are a small minority. And as far a Buddhists paying homage to Idols goes, it is not to worship the statue, but it serves as a mechanism to destroy the ego. I asked the monk at my temple the same question and he laughed. if you need further proof look at when the Taliban blew up two of the oldest standing Buddhas in the world. I challenge you to locate one example of even an individual Buddhist who replied in anger or racism. In Thailand the people and the military kiccked out the previous prime minster who used heavy handed tactics against Muslim separatists. even though the separatists kidnapped killed and decapitated innocent buddhist monks who are completly pacifist.

 

 

secondly, the Buddhas teachings were far from a minor addition to hinduism. The body of the Buddhas teachings, The sutta pitaka (what he actually taught, not the commentaries) ammounts to approximatly 6000 pages of writing. His higher more advanced teachings, The Abhidamma Pitaka is another 3-4000 pages.

 

to give you an an idea of how the Buddha taught here is an excerpt from a famous sutta "the kalamma sutta" in it the Buddha tells them not to accept any teaching including his own until they have decided for themselves that it will produce good in their life. I hope this will clear up some of your questions Salam and happy Ramadan.

 

(The Kalamas of Kesaputta ask for guidance from the Buddha)

 

3. The Kalamas who were inhabitants of Kesaputta sitting on one

side said to the Blessed One: "There are some monks and brahmins,

venerable sir, who visit Kesaputta. They expound and explain only

their own doctrines; the doctrines of others they despise, revile,

and pull to pieces. Some other monks and brahmins too, venerable

sir, come to Kesaputta. They also expound and explain only their

own doctrines; the doctrines of others they despise, revile, and

pull to pieces. Venerable sir, there is doubt, there is

uncertainty in us concerning them. Which of these reverend monks

and brahmins spoke the truth and which falsehood?"

 

(The criterion for rejection)

 

4. "It is proper for you, Kalamas, to doubt, to be uncertain;

uncertainty has arisen in you about what is doubtful. Come,

Kalamas. Do not go upon what has been acquired by repeated

hearing; nor upon tradition; nor upon rumor; nor upon what is in a

scripture; nor upon surmise; nor upon an axiom; nor upon specious

reasoning; nor upon a bias towards a notion that has been pondered

over; nor upon another's seeming ability; nor upon the

consideration, 'The monk is our teacher.' Kalamas, when you

yourselves know: 'These things are bad; these things are blamable;

these things are censured by the wise; undertaken and observed,

these things lead to harm and ill,' abandon them.

 

(Greed, hate, and delusion)

 

5. "What do you think, Kalamas? Does greed appear in a man for his

benefit or harm?" -- "For his harm, venerable sir." -- "Kalamas,

being given to greed, and being overwhelmed and vanquished

mentally by greed, this man takes life, steals, commits adultery,

and tells lies; he prompts another too, to do likewise. Will that

be long for his harm and ill?" -- "Yes, venerable sir."

 

6. "What do you think, Kalamas? Does hate appear in a man for his

benefit or harm?" -- "For his harm, venerable sir." -- "Kalamas,

being given to hate, and being overwhelmed and vanquished mentally

by hate, this man takes life, steals, commits adultery, and tells

lies; he prompts another too, to do likewise. Will that be long

for his harm and ill?" -- "Yes, venerable sir."

 

7. "What do you think, Kalamas? Does delusion appear in a man for

his benefit or harm?" -- "For his harm, venerable sir." --

"Kalamas, being given to delusion, and being overwhelmed and

vanquished mentally by delusion, this man takes life, steals,

commits adultery, and tells lies; he prompts another too, to do

likewise. Will that be long for his harm and ill?" -- "Yes,

venerable sir."

 

8. "What do you think, Kalamas? Are these things good or bad?" --

"Bad, venerable sir" -- "Blamable or not blamable?" -- "Blamable,

venerable sir." -- "Censured or praised by the wise?" --

"Censured, venerable sir." -- "Undertaken and observed, do these

things lead to harm and ill, or not? Or how does it strike you?"

-- "Undertaken and observed, these things lead to harm and ill.

Thus it strikes us here."

 

9. "Therefore, did we say, Kalamas, what was said thus, 'Come

Kalamas. Do not go upon what has been acquired by repeated

hearing; nor upon tradition; nor upon rumor; nor upon what is in a

scripture; nor upon surmise; nor upon an axiom; nor upon specious

reasoning; nor upon a bias towards a notion that has been pondered

over; nor upon another's seeming ability; nor upon the

consideration, "The monk is our teacher." Kalamas, when you

yourselves know: "These things are bad; these things are blamable;

these things are censured by the wise; undertaken and observed,

these things lead to harm and ill," abandon them.'

 

(The criterion for acceptance)

 

10. "Come, Kalamas. Do not go upon what has been acquired by

repeated hearing; nor upon tradition; nor upon rumor; nor upon

what is in a scripture; nor upon surmise; nor upon an axiom; nor

upon specious reasoning; nor upon a bias towards a notion that has

been pondered over; nor upon another's seeming ability; nor upon

the consideration, 'The monk is our teacher.' Kalamas, when you

yourselves know: 'These things are good; these things are not

blamable; these things are praised by the wise; undertaken and

observed, these things lead to benefit and happiness,' enter on

and abide in them.

 

(Absence of greed, hate, and delusion)

 

11. "What do you think, Kalamas? Does absence of greed appear in a

man for his benefit or harm?" -- "For his benefit, venerable sir."

-- "Kalamas, being not given to greed, and being not overwhelmed

and not vanquished mentally by greed, this man does not take life,

does not steal, does not commit adultery, and does not tell lies;

he prompts another too, to do likewise. Will that be long for his

benefit and happiness?" -- "Yes, venerable sir."

 

12. "What do you think, Kalamas? Does absence of hate appear in a

man for his benefit or harm?" -- "For his benefit, venerable sir."

-- "Kalamas, being not given to hate, and being not overwhelmed

and not vanquished mentally by hate, this man does not take life,

does not steal, does not commit adultery, and does not tell lies;

he prompts another too, to do likewise. Will that be long for his

benefit and happiness?" -- "Yes, venerable sir."

 

13. "What do you think, Kalamas? Does absence of delusion appear

in a man for his benefit or harm?" -- "For his benefit, venerable

sir." -- "Kalamas, being not given to delusion, and being not

overwhelmed and not vanquished mentally by delusion, this man does

not take life, does not steal, does not commit adultery, and does

not tell lies; he prompts another too, to do likewise. Will that

be long for his benefit and happiness?" -- "Yes, venerable sir."

 

14. "What do you think, Kalamas? Are these things good or bad?" --

"Good, venerable sir." -- "Blamable or not blamable?" -- "Not

blamable, venerable sir." -- "Censured or praised by the wise?" --

"Praised, venerable sir." -- "Undertaken and observed, do these

things lead to benefit and happiness, or not? Or how does it

strike you?" -- "Undertaken and observed, these things lead to

benefit and happiness. Thus it strikes us here."

 

15. "Therefore, did we say, Kalamas, what was said thus, 'Come

Kalamas. Do not go upon what has been acquired by repeated

hearing; nor upon tradition; nor upon rumor; nor upon what is in a

scripture; nor upon surmise; nor upon an axiom; nor upon specious

reasoning; nor upon a bias towards a notion that has been pondered

over; nor upon another's seeming ability; nor upon the

consideration, "The monk is our teacher." Kalamas, when you

yourselves know: "These things are good; these things are not

blamable; these things are praised by the wise; undertaken and

observed, these things lead to benefit and happiness," enter on

and abide in them.'

 

(The Four Exalted Dwellings)

 

16. "The disciple of the Noble Ones, Kalamas, who in this way is

devoid of coveting, devoid of ill will, undeluded, clearly

comprehending and mindful, dwells, having pervaded, with the

thought of amity, one quarter; likewise the second; likewise the

third; likewise the fourth; so above, below, and across; he

dwells, having pervaded because of the existence in it of all

living beings, everywhere, the entire world, with the great,

exalted, boundless thought of amity that is free of hate or

malice.

 

"He lives, having pervaded, with the thought of compassion, one

quarter; likewise the second; likewise the third; likewise the

fourth; so above, below, and across; he dwells, having pervaded

because of the existence in it of all living beings, everywhere,

the entire world, with the great, exalted, boundless thought of

compassion that is free of hate or malice.

 

"He lives, having pervaded, with the thought of gladness, one

quarter; likewise the second; likewise the third; likewise the

fourth; so above, below, and across; he dwells, having pervaded

because of the existence in it of all living beings, everywhere,

the entire world, with the great, exalted, boundless thought of

gladness that is free of hate or malice.

 

"He lives, having pervaded, with the thought of equanimity, one

quarter; likewise the second; likewise the third; likewise the

fourth; so above, below, and across; he dwells, having pervaded

because of the existence in it of all living beings, everywhere,

the entire world, with the great, exalted, boundless thought of

equanimity that is free of hate or malice.

 

(The Four Solaces)

 

17. "The disciple of the Noble Ones, Kalamas, who has such a

hate-free mind, such a malice-free mind, such an undefiled mind,

and such a purified mind, is one by whom four solaces are found

here and now.

 

"'Suppose there is a hereafter and there is a fruit, result, of

deeds done well or ill. Then it is possible that at the

dissolution of the body after death, I shall arise in the heavenly

world, which is possessed of the state of bliss.' This is the

first solace found by him.

 

"'Suppose there is no hereafter and there is no fruit, no result,

of deeds done well or ill. Yet in this world, here and now, free

from hatred, free from malice, safe and sound, and happy, I keep

myself.' This is the second solace found by him.

 

"'Suppose evil (results) befall an evil-doer. I, however, think of

doing evil to no one. Then, how can ill (results) affect me who do

no evil deed?' This is the third solace found by him.

 

"'Suppose evil (results) do not befall an evil-doer. Then I see

myself purified in any case.' This is the fourth solace found by

him.

 

"The disciple of the Noble Ones, Kalamas, who has such a hate-free

mind, such a malice-free mind, such an undefiled mind, and such a

purified mind, is one by whom, here and now, these four solaces

are found."

 

"So it is, Blessed One. So it is, Sublime one. The disciple of the

Noble Ones, venerable sir, who has such a hate-free mind, such a

malice-free mind, such an undefiled mind, and such a purified

mind, is one by whom, here and now, four solaces are found.

 

"'Suppose there is a hereafter and there is a fruit, result, of

deeds done well or ill. Then it is possible that at the

dissolution of the body after death, I shall arise in the heavenly

world, which is possessed of the state of bliss.' This is the

first solace found by him.

 

"'Suppose there is no hereafter and there is no fruit, no result,

of deeds done well or ill. Yet in this world, here and now, free

from hatred, free from malice, safe and sound, and happy, I keep

myself.' This is the second solace found by him.

 

"'Suppose evil (results) befall an evil-doer. I, however, think of

doing evil to no one. Then, how can ill (results) affect me who do

no evil deed?' This is the third solace found by him.

 

"'Suppose evil (results) do not befall an evil-doer. Then I see

myself purified in any case.' This is the fourth solace found by

him.

 

"The disciple of the Noble Ones, venerable sir, who has such a

hate-free mind, such a malice-free mind, such an undefiled mind,

and such a purified mind, is one by whom, here and now, these four

solaces are found.

 

"Marvelous, venerable sir! Marvelous, venerable sir! As if,

venerable sir, a person were to turn face upwards what is upside

down, or to uncover the concealed, or to point the way to one who

is lost or to carry a lamp in the darkness, thinking, 'Those who

have eyes will see visible objects,' so has the Dhamma been set

forth in many ways by the Blessed One. We, venerable sir, go to

the Blessed One for refuge, to the Dhamma for refuge, and to the

Community of Bhikkhus for refuge. Venerable sir, may the Blessed

One regard us as lay followers who have gone for refuge for life,

from today."

[Lars 0]

Their are many comments about the Quran in the Guru Granth Sahib:

 

Namaste(peace) sister, and well spoken. your ability to speak the truth while being ever mindfull of right speech is impressive. I may be a Theravada Buddhist but i can tell we follow the same path.

Edited October 4, 2007 by yusufar

[m0nica3 1]

I think it's individual personally. My family is Sikh, i am Muslim..but they don't worship the saints as gods...they worship God Himself.

 

I know i can probably never convince them to convert like i did, but me living by example, InshaAllah, perhaps i can make them see how their religion and mine has some similarities instead of differences. I think by trying this way, it helps us all out and allows us to work towards acceptance.

 

Just my two cents :sl:

[hazemabdulrab 1]

worship the creator not the creation

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some religious sikhs(the ones that wear turbans/dont cut their hair/beard) hate Muslims because part of their religion states that they may not cut their hair or clip their nail(unsure bout clippin nails) until they bath in the blood of a Muslim person

[m0nica3 1]

some religious sikhs(the ones that wear turbans/dont cut their hair/beard) hate Muslims because part of their religion states that they may not cut their hair or clip their nail(unsure bout clippin nails) until they bath in the blood of a Muslim person

 

NEVER have i heard of that in my life..and i have some "religious sikhs" in my family...will ask my mom if she has heard of that...but from what i have gathered thus far...the hatred seems to come from ignorance more than anything else...

[crystal_sword 0]

NEVER have i heard of that in my life..and i have some "religious sikhs" in my family...will ask my mom if she has heard of that...but from what i have gathered thus far...the hatred seems to come from ignorance more than anything else...

 

 

Im guessing it's one of the Extreme Ultra Hardcore versions, probably somwhere in India where there has been a history of conflict between Muslims and sikhs.

 

Im guessing some Angry Sikh "respected elder" may have siad that, hence become an innovation amongst hardcore sikhs there.

[studentofGod 0]

some religious sikhs(the ones that wear turbans/dont cut their hair/beard) hate Muslims because part of their religion states that they may not cut their hair or clip their nail(unsure bout clippin nails) until they bath in the blood of a Muslim person

 

This is ridiculous. I am Sikh and have lots of orthodox Sikhs in my family and believe me, none of my aunts/uncles/cousins have ever bathed in the blood of any living creature, let alone a Muslim.

 

The reason for any tensions between people of these communities is historical. Whether Islam prescribes forcible conversion or not (as was debated earlier in the thread), members of the Moghul Empire (who were Muslim) did attempt to force the inhabitants of India to convert to Islam or face death/persecution. Some emperors were more violent than others, but it was during their reign over India that God saw the need to protect the persecuted. So he sent a message through Guru Nanak Devji reminding Hindus to be better Hindus and Muslims to be better Muslims. As the Gur-gaddi (or Guru's Seat) was passed on in succession, and more and more people were following the message of the Gurus, the political climate in India was becoming more volatile. Under Emperors like Shah-Jehan and Aurangzeb, Hindus and Sikhs (followers of the Gurus' teachings) were persecuted for their beliefs and their refusal to follow the tenets of Islam. Sikhs are often known as the Saint-Soldiers. While promoting peace, we are also charged with defending it, using arms if need be. This too stems from the fight against persecution. Sikhs banded together and under different Gurus' leadership at different times (most notably under Guru Gobind Singhji), warred against the armies of the Moghul rulers. It is even argued that the reason Sikhs came into being (or at least took on the Soldier nature of their identity) is because of the Muslims occupying the land and violently ruling the people. Hence, the historical nature of Sikh-Muslim animosity.

[abukhaleel 0]

Sikhs banded together and under different Gurus' leadership at different times (most notably under Guru Gobind Singhji

COUSIN sikh....so you are not student of god but student of your guru...i suggest you change your nick name to "student of guru"...believe me God/Allah has no students...only slaves...you myself and all the creation (abstract or tangible) are His slaves...not students...

peace

[m0nica3 1]

uff pragmatics... :sl:

[m0nica3 1]

Im guessing some Angry Sikh "respected elder" may have siad that, hence become an innovation amongst hardcore sikhs there.

 

Yea, as i said earlier...haven't heard that....can u imagine bathing in someones blood?? who would say such a thing?? The animosity i have heard from both sides is absolutely disappointing...

 

I dunno where this whole forum is going...i hear one side from Muslims who say this or that and are so sure that their opinion is the best and then i hear another side that says something else...can't we just agree to disagree?

 

i'm Muslim (revert) and sometimes even i get confused about Islam sometimes when i hear from others "oh...she's just a revert"....from other Muslims by the way...so i dont think we can say this person is an expert in this or someone else is...we are not experts...and we will never be...even if we spent our entire lives studying one religion over another, we can never call ourselves experts...we dont know...there is always that 1% we will never know about..

[hamza81 36]

:sl:

So...will a practicing sikh go to Heaven?

 

Does sikhism have any link to Islam?

 

Is there mention in the Qur'an or Sunnah about Sikhs and Hindu's?

 

and when i say hindu's, i mean the ones that Dont worship idols...

-sorry if they are very silly basic questions...-

 

:sl:

 

Concept of God in Hinduism

by Dr. Zakir Naik

 

1. Common Concept of God in Hinduism:

 

Hinduism is commonly perceived as a polytheistic religion. Indeed, most Hindus would attest to this, by professing belief in multiple Gods. While some Hindus believe in the existence of three gods, some believe in thousands of gods, and some others in thirty three crore i.e. 330 million Gods. However, learned Hindus, who are well versed in their scriptures, insist that a Hindu should believe in and worship only one God.

 

The major difference between the Hindu and the Muslim perception of God is the common Hindus’ belief in the philosophy of Pantheism. Pantheism considers everything, living and non-living, to be Divine and Sacred. The common Hindu, therefore, considers everything as God. He considers the trees as God, the sun as God, the moon as God, the monkey as God, the snake as God and even human beings as manifestations of God!

 

Islam, on the contrary, exhorts man to consider himself and his surroundings as examples of Divine Creation rather than as divinity itself. Muslims therefore believe that everything is God’s i.e. the word ‘God’ with an apostrophe ‘s’. In other words the Muslims believe that everything belongs to God. The trees belong to God, the sun belongs to God, the moon belongs to God, the monkey belongs to God, the snake belongs to God, the human beings belong to God and everything in this universe belongs to God.

 

Thus the major difference between the Hindu and the Muslim beliefs is the difference of the apostrophe ‘s’. The Hindu says everything is God. The Muslim says everything is God’s.

 

 

2. Concept of God according to Hindu Scriptures:

 

We can gain a better understanding of the concept of God in Hinduism by analysing Hindu scriptures.

 

BHAGAVAD GITA

 

The most popular amongst all the Hindu scriptures is the Bhagavad Gita.

 

Consider the following verse from the Gita:

 

"Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires surrender unto demigods and follow the particular rules and regulations of worship according to their own natures."[bhagavad Gita 7:20]

 

The Gita states that people who are materialistic worship demigods i.e. ‘gods’ besides the True God.

 

 

UPANISHADS:

 

The Upanishads are considered sacred scriptures by the Hindus.

 

The following verses from the Upanishads refer to the Concept of God:

 

"Ekam evadvitiyam"

"He is One only without a second."

[Chandogya Upanishad 6:2:1]1

 

"Na casya kascij janita na cadhipah."

"Of Him there are neither parents nor lord."

[svetasvatara Upanishad 6:9]2

 

"Na tasya pratima asti"

"There is no likeness of Him."

[svetasvatara Upanishad 4:19]3

 

The following verses from the Upanishad allude to the inability of man to imagine God in a particular form:

 

"Na samdrse tisthati rupam asya, na caksusa pasyati kas canainam."

 

"His form is not to be seen; no one sees Him with the eye."

[svetasvatara Upanishad 4:20]4

 

1[The Principal Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan page 447 and 448]

[sacred Books of the East, volume 1 ‘The Upanishads part I’ page 93]

 

2[The Principal Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan page 745]

[sacred Books of the East, volume 15, ‘The Upanishads part II’ page 263.]

 

3[The Principal Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan page 736 & 737]

[sacred Books of the East, volume 15, ‘The Upanishads part II’ page no 253]

 

4[The Principal Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan page 737]

[sacred Books of the East, volume 15, ‘The Upanishads part II’ page no 253]

 

 

 

 

 

THE VEDAS

 

Vedas are considered the most sacred of all the Hindu scriptures. There are four principal Vedas: Rigveda, Yajurveda, Samveda and Atharvaveda.

 

 

 

Yajurveda

 

The following verses from the Yajurveda echo a similar concept of God:

 

 

"na tasya pratima asti

"There is no image of Him."

[Yajurveda 32:3]5

 

"shudhama poapvidham"

"He is bodyless and pure."

[Yajurveda 40:8]6

 

"Andhatama pravishanti ye asambhuti mupaste"

"They enter darkness, those who worship the natural elements" (Air, Water, Fire, etc.). "They sink deeper in darkness, those who worship sambhuti."

[Yajurveda 40:9]7

 

Sambhuti means created things, for example table, chair, idol, etc.

 

The Yajurveda contains the following prayer:

"Lead us to the good path and remove the sin that makes us stray and wander."

[Yajurveda 40:16]8

 

5[Yajurveda by Devi Chand M.A. page 377]

 

6[Yajurveda Samhita by Ralph T. H. Giffith page 538]

 

7[Yajurveda Samhita by Ralph T. H. Giffith page 538]

 

8[Yajurveda Samhita by Ralph T. H. Griffith page 541]

 

 

 

Atharvaveda

 

The Atharvaveda praises God in Book 20, hymn 58 and verse 3:

 

"Dev maha osi"

"God is verily great"

[Atharvaveda 20:58:3]9

 

 

Rigveda

 

The oldest of all the vedas is Rigveda. It is also the one considered most sacred by the Hindus. The Rigveda states in Book 1, hymn 164 and verse 46:

"Sages (learned Priests) call one God by many names."

[Rigveda 1:164:46]

 

The Rigveda gives several different attributes to Almighty God. Many of these are mentioned in Rigveda Book 2 hymn 1.

 

Among the various attributes of God, one of the beautiful attributes mentioned in the Rigveda Book II hymn 1 verse 3, is Brahma. Brahma means ‘The Creator’. Translated into Arabic it means Khaaliq. Muslims can have no objection if Almighty God is referred to as Khaaliq or ‘Creator’ or Brahma. However if it is said that Brahma is Almighty God who has four heads with each head having a crown, Muslims take strong exception to it.

 

Describing Almighty God in anthropomorphic terms also goes against the following verse of Yajurveda:

 

"Na tasya Pratima asti"

"There is no image of Him."

[Yajurveda 32:3]

 

Another beautiful attribute of God mentioned in the Rigveda Book II hymn 1 verse 3 is Vishnu. Vishnu means ‘The Sustainer’. Translated into Arabic it means Rabb. Again, Muslims can have no objection if Almighty God is referred to as Rabb or 'Sustainer' or Vishnu. But the popular image of

 

 

9[Atharveda Samhita vol 2 William Dwight Whitney page 910]

 

 

 

 

 

Vishnu among Hindus, is that of a God who has four arms, with one of the right arms holding the Chakra, i.e. a discus and one of the left arms holding a ‘conch shell’, or riding a bird or reclining on a snake couch. Muslims can never accept any image of God. As mentioned earlier this also goes against Svetasvatara Upanishad Chapter 4 verse 19.

 

"Na tasya pratima asti"

"There is no likeness of Him"

 

The following verse from the Rigveda Book 8, hymn 1, verse 1 refer to the Unity and Glory of the Supreme Being:

 

"Ma cid anyad vi sansata sakhayo ma rishanyata"

"O friends, do not worship anybody but Him, the Divine One. Praise Him alone."

[Rigveda 8:1:1]10

 

"Devasya samituk parishtutih"

"Verily, great is the glory of the Divine Creator."

[Rigveda 5:1:81]11

 

 

Brahma Sutra of Hinduism:

 

The Brahma Sutra of Hinduism is:

 

"Ekam Brahm, dvitiya naste neh na naste kinchan"

 

"There is only one God, not the second; not at all, not at all, not in the least bit."

 

Thus only a dispassionate study of the Hindu scriptures can help one understand the concept of God in Hinduism.

 

 

0[Rigveda Samhita vol. 9, pages 2810 and 2811 by Swami Satya Prakash Sarasvati and Satyakam Vidyalankar]

 

11[Rigveda Samhita vol. 6, pages 1802 and 1803 by Swami Satya Prakash Saraswati and Satyakam Vidyalankar]

 

 

 

 

as from the sun." The Prophecy confirms:

 

The name of the Prophet as Ahmed since Ahmed is an Arabic name. Many translators misunderstood it to be ‘Ahm at hi’ and translated the mantra as "I alone have acquired the real wisdom of my father".

 

Prophet was given eternal law, i.e. the Shariah.

 

The Rishi was enlightened by the Shariah of Prophet Muhammad. The Qur’an says in Surah Saba Chapter 34 verse 28 (34:28):

 

 

 

"We have not sent thee but as a universal (Messenger) to men, giving them glad tidings and warning them (against sin), but most men understand not."

 

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An account from a hindu girl who converted to Islam

 

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A newspaper article of 40 hindu families converting to Islam!

 

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Here are some very interesting video clips:

 

link of a hindu convert to Islam

 

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Link of Muhammed(saw) in hindu scriptures:

 

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Similarities between hinduism and Islam

 

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So...will a practicing sikh go to Heaven?

 

Does sikhism have any link to Islam?

 

Is there mention in the Qur'an or Sunnah about Sikhs and Hindu's?

 

and when i say hindu's, i mean the ones that Dont worship idols...

-sorry if they are very silly basic questions...-

 

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Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in Hindu Scriptures

 

I Muhammad (pbuh) prophesised in Bhavishya Purana

 

According to Bhavishya Purana in the Prati Sarag Parv III Khand 3 Adhay 3 Shloka 5 to 8.

 

"A malecha (belonging to a foreign country and speaking a foreign language) spiritual teacher will appear with his companions. His name will be Mohammad. Raja (Bhoj) after giving this Maha Dev Arab (of angelic disposition) a bath in the Panchgavya and the Ganga water (i.e. purifying him of all sins) offered him the present of his sincere devotion and showing him all reverence said, "I make obeisance to thee. O ye! The pride of mankind, the dweller in Arabia, Ye have collected a great force to kill the Devil and you yourself have been protected from the malecha opponents."

 

The Prophecy clearly states:

 

The name of the Prophet as Mohammad.He will belong to Arabia. The Sanskrit word Marusthal means a sandy track of land or a desert.

 

 

Special mention is made of the companions of the Prophet, i.e. the Sahabas. No other Prophet had as many companions as Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

 

He is referred as the pride of mankind (Parbatis nath). The Glorious Qur’an reconfirms this

 

"And thou (standest) on an exalted standard of character"

[Al-Qur'an 68:4]|

 

"Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah, a beautiful pattern (of conduct)".[Al-Qur'an 33:21]

 

He will kill the devil, i.e. abolish idol worship and all sorts of vices.

 

The Prophet will be given protection against his enemy.

 

Some people may argue that ‘Raja’ Bhoj mentioned in the prophecy lived in the 11th century C.E. 500 years after the advent of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and was the descendant in the 10th generation of Raja Shalivahan. These people fail to realise that there was not only one Raja of the name Bhoj. The Egyptian Monarchs were called as Pharaoh and the Roman Kings were known as Caesar, similarly the Indian Rajas were given the title of Bhoj. There were several Raja Bhoj who came before the one in 11th Century C.E.

 

The Prophet did not physically take a bath in the Panchgavya and the water of Ganges. Since the water of Ganges is considered holy, taking bath in the Ganges is an idiom, which means washing away sins or immunity from all sorts of sins. Here the prophecy implies that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was sinless, i.e. Maasoom.

 

According to Bhavishya Purana in the Pratisarag Parv III Khand 3 Adhay 3 Shloka 10 to 27 Maharishi Vyas has prophesised:

 

"The Malecha have spoiled the well-known land of the Arabs. Arya Dharma is not to be found in the country. Before also there appeared a misguided fiend whom I had killed; he has now again appeared being sent by a powerful enemy. To show these enemies the right path and to give them guidance, the well-known Muhammad (pbuh), is busy in bringing the Pishachas to the right path. O Raja, You need not go to the land of the foolish Pishachas, you will be purified through my kindness even where you are. At night, he of the angelic disposition, the shrewd man, in the guise of Pishacha said to Raja Bhoj, "O Raja! Your Arya Dharma has been made to prevail over all religions, but according to the commandments of Ishwar Parmatma, I shall enforce the strong creed of the meat eaters. My followers will be men circumcised, without a tail (on his head), keeping beard, creating a revolution announcing the Aadhaan (the Muslim call for prayer) and will be eating all lawful things. He will eat all sorts of animals except swine. They will not seek purification from the holy shrubs, but will be purified through warfare. On account of their fighting the irreligious nations, they will be known as Musalmaans. I shall be the originator of this religion of the meat-eating nations."

 

The Prophecy states that:

 

The evil doers have corrupted the Arab land.

 

Arya Dharma is not found in that land.

 

The Indian Raja need not go the Arab land since his purification will take place in India after the musalmaan will arrive in India.

 

The coming Prophet will attest the truth of the Aryan faith, i.e. Monotheism and will reform the misguided people.

 

The Prophet’s followers will be circumcised. They will be without a tail on the head and bear a beard and will create a great revolution.

 

They will announce the Aadhaan, i.e. ‘the Muslim call for prayer’.

 

He will only eat lawful things and animals but will not eat pork. The Qur’an confirms this in no less than 4 different places:

 

In Surah Al-Baqarah chapter 2 verse 173

In Surah Al-Maidah chapter 5 verse 3

In Surah Al-Anam chapter 6 verse 145

In Surah Al-Nahl chapter 16 verse 115

 

"Forbidden to you for food are dead meat, blood, flesh of swine, and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah".

 

They will not purify with grass like the Hindus but by means of sword they will fight their irreligious people.

 

They will be called musalmaan.

 

They will be a meat-eating nation.

 

The eating of herbivorous animals is confirmed by the Qur’an in Surah Maidah, chapter 5 verse 1 and in Surah Muminun chapter 23 verse 21

 

According to Bhavishya Purana, Parv - III Khand 1 Adhay 3 Shloka 21-23:"Corruption and persecution are found in seven sacred cities of Kashi, etc. India is inhabited by Rakshas, Shabor, Bhil and other foolish people. In the land of Malechhas, the followers of the Malechha dharma (Islam) are wise and brave people. All good qualities are found in Musalmaans and all sorts of vices have accumulated in the land of the Aryas. Islam will rule in India and its islands. Having known these facts, O Muni, glorify the name of thy lord".

 

The Qur’an confirms this in Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 33 and in Surah Al Saff chapter 61 verse 9:

 

"It is He who hath sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to proclaim it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it)".

 

A similar message is given in Surah Fatah chapter 48 verses 28 ending with, "and enough is Allah as a witness".

 

 

II Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) Prophesised in Atharvaveda

 

In the 20th book of Atharvaveda Hymn 127 Some Suktas (chapters) are known as Kuntap Sukta. Kuntap means the consumer of misery and troubles. Thus meaning the message of peace and safety and if translated in Arabic means Islam.

 

Kuntap also means hidden glands in the abdomen. These mantras are called so probably because their true meaning was hidden and was to be revealed in future. Its hidden meaning is also connected with the navel or the middle point of this earth. Makkah is called the Ummul Qur’a the mother of the towns or the naval of the earth. In many revealed books it was the first house of Divine worship where God Almighty gave spiritual nourishment to the world. The Qur’an says in Surah Ali-Imran chapter 3, verse 96:

 

"The first house (of worship) appointed for men was that at Bakkah (Makkah) full of blessings and of guidance and for all kinds of beings".

 

Thus Kuntap stands for Makkah or Bakkah.

 

Several people have translated these Kuntap Suktas like M. Bloomfield, Prof. Ralph Griffith, Pandit Rajaram, Pandit Khem Karan, etc.

 

The main points mentioned in the Kuntap Suktas i.e. in Atharvaveda book 20 Hymn 127 verses 1-13 are:

 

Mantra 1

 

He is Narashansah or the praised one (Muhammad). He is Kaurama: the prince of peace or the emigrant, who is safe, even amongst a host of 60,090 enemies.

 

Mantra 2

 

He is a camel-riding Rishi, whose chariot touches the heaven.

 

Mantra 3

 

He is Mamah Rishi who is given a hundred gold coins, ten chaplets (necklaces), three hundred good steeds and ten thousand cows.

 

Mantra 4

 

Vachyesv rebh. ‘Oh! ye who glorifies’.

 

The Sanskrit word Narashansah means ‘the praised one’, which is the literal translation of the Arabic word Muhammad (pbuh).

 

The Sanskrit word Kaurama means ‘one who spreads and promotes peace’. The holy Prophet was the ‘Prince of Peace’ and he preached equality of human kind and universal brotherhood. Kaurama also means an emigrant. The Prophet migrated from Makkah to Madinah and was thus also an Emigrant.

 

He will be protected from 60,090 enemies, which was the population of Makkah. The Prophet would ride a camel. This clearly indicates that it cannot be an Indian Rishi, since it is forbidden for a Brahman to ride a camel according to the Sacred Books of the East, volume 25, Laws of Manu pg. 472. According to Manu Smirti chapter 11 verse 202, "A Brahman is prohibited from riding a camel or an ###### and to bathe naked. He should purify himself by suppressing his breath".

 

This mantra gave the Rishi's name as Mamah. No rishi in India or another Prophet had this name Mamah which is derived from Mah which means to esteem highly, or to revere, to exalt, etc. Some Sanskrit books give the Prophet’s name as ‘Mohammad’, but this word according to Sanskrit grammar can also be used in the bad sense. It is incorrect to apply grammar to an Arabic word. Actually shas the same meaning and somewhat similar pronunciation as the word Muhammad (pbuh).

 

He is given 100 gold coins, which refers to the believers and the earlier companions of the Prophet during his turbulent Makkan life. Later on due to persecution they migrated from Makkah to Abysinia. Later when Prophet migrated to Madinah all of them joined him in Madinah.

 

The 10 chaplets or necklaces were the 10 best companions of the Holy Prophet (pbuh) known as Ashra-Mubbashshira (10 bestowed with good news). These were foretold in this world of their salvation in the hereafter i.e. they were given the good news of entering paradise by the Prophet’s own lips and after naming each one he said "in Paradise". They were Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Ali, Talha, Zubair, Abdur Rahman Ibn Auf, Saad bin Abi Waqqas, Saad bin Zaid and Abu Ubaidah (May Allah be well-pleased with all of them).

 

The Sanskrit word Go is derived from Gaw which means ‘to go to war’. A cow is also called Go and is a symbol of war as well as peace. The 10,000 cows refer to the 10,000 companions who accompanied the Prophet (pbuh) when he entered Makkah during Fateh Makkah which was a unique victory in the history of mankind in which there was no blood shed. The 10,000 companions were pious and compassionate like cows and were at the same time strong and fierce and are described in the Holy Quran in Surah Fatah:

 

"Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah; and those who are with him are strong against unbelievers, (but) compassionate amongst each other."[Al-Qur'an 48:29]

 

This mantra calls the Prophet as Rebh which means one who praises, which when translated into Arabic is Ahmed, which is another name for the Holy Prophet (pbuh).

 

Battle of the Allies described in the Vedas.

 

It is mentioned in Atharvaveda Book XX Hymn 21 verse 6, "Lord of the truthful! These liberators drink these feats of bravery and the inspiring songs gladdened thee in the field of battle. When thou renders vanquished without fight the ten thousand opponents of the praying one, the adoring one."

 

This Prophecy of the Veda describes the well-known battle of Ahzab or the battle of the Allies during the time of Prophet Muhammed. The Prophet was victorious without an actual conflict which is mentioned in the Qur’an in Surah Ahzab:

 

"When the believers saw the confederate forces they said, "This is what Allah and His Messenger had promised us and Allah and His Messenger told us what was true." And it only added to their faith and their zeal in obedience."[Al-Qur'an 33:22]

 

The Sanskrit word karo in the Mantra means the ‘praying one’ which when translated into Arabic means ‘Ahmed’, the second name of Prophet Muhammed (pbuh).

 

The 10,000 opponents mentioned in the Mantra were the enemies of the Prophet and the Muslims were only 3000 in number.

 

The last words of the Mantra aprati ni bashayah means the defeat was given to the enemies without an actual fight.

 

The enemies’ defeat in the conquest of Makkah is mentioned in Atharvaveda book 20 Hymn 21 verse no 9:

 

"You have O Indra, overthrown 20 kings and 60,099 men with an outstripping Chariot wheel who came to fight the praised one or far famed (Muhammad) orphan."

 

The population of Makkah at the time of Prophet’s advent was nearly 60,000

 

There were several clans in Makkah each having its own chief. Totally there were about 20 chiefs to rule the population of Makkah.

 

An Abandhu meaning a helpless man who was far-famed and ‘praised one’. Muhammad (pbuh) overcame his enemies with the help of God.

 

III Muhammad (pbuh) prophesised in the Rigveda

 

A similar prophecy is also found in Rigveda Book I, Hymn 53 verse 9:

 

The Sanskrit word used is Sushrama, which means praiseworthy or well praised which in Arabic means Muhammad (pbuh).

 

IV Muhummad (pbuh) is also prophesised in the Samveda

 

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is also prophesised in the Samveda Book II Hymn 6 verse 8:

 

"Ahmed acquired from his Lord the knowledge of eternal law. I received light from him just as from the sun." The Prophecy confirms:

 

The name of the Prophet as Ahmed since Ahmed is an Arabic name. Many translators misunderstood it to be Ahm at hi and translated the mantra as "I alone have acquired the real wisdom of my father".

 

Prophet was given eternal law, i.e. the Shariah.

 

The Rishi was enlightened by the Shariah of Prophet Muhammad. The Qur’an says in Surah Saba chapter 34 verse 28

 

"We have not sent thee but as a universal (Messenger) to men, giving them glad tidings and warning them (against sin), but most men understand not."[Al-Qur'an 34:28]

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Many myths about sikhi have been answered on this site

 

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Scientists found that hindu men believe rape is okay because the hindu gods were also rapists, and hindu men "strive to emulate the gods"
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-70% of hindu men believed a rapist is not a criminal

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This is terrible!! Those Hindus should be ashamed of themselves!!