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Assalaamu 'alaikum,

 

I was in Turkey a couple of weeks ago - it was nice hearing the (www.)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_www.gawaher(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/glossary/glossary_a000.html#adhaan"]adhaan[/url] from afar, having Masjids around, and not worrying about halaal food. There were plenty of sisters wearing the headscarf and the Masjids weren't as empty as I'd been told, alhamdulillah.

 

I put some pictures up in the forum (www.)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_gawaher(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/index.php?showtopic=16717&pid=153718&st=0entry153718"]here[/url].

 

Wassalaam.

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Salaam

 

They can say Adhan? Thought that wasnt allowed. . .

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Assalaamu 'alaikum,

 

I was in Turkey a couple of weeks ago - it was nice hearing the adhaan from afar, having Masjids around, and not worrying about halaal food. There were plenty of sisters wearing the headscarf and the Masjids weren't as empty as I'd been told, alhamdulillah.

 

I put some pictures up in the forum (www.)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_gawaher(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/index.php?showtopic=16717&pid=153718&st=0�entry153718"]here[/url].

 

Wassalaam.

 

 

Salaam

 

They can say Adhan?  Thought that wasnt allowed. . .

 

yes we can hear adhan from everywhere and we have too many masjids and i never worried about halaal food. i think we should be gratefull to Allah (swt) because you are living in very bad conditions compared to us (in an Islamic view). but i should say that we are living in very bad conditions compared to KSA or Syria i think (alcohol is unrestricted, semi naked women everywhere, the government is laic). well, may Allah (swt) help us.

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Mustafa Kemal was not a JEW....

 

 

The ones who calls Ataturk a JEW are the ones who are controlled by zionists indirectly...

 

 

Ataturk just looks like his father.And his father was a TURK who has gone to Thessalonica from AYDIN/SOKE region in Aegean part of Anatolia which is populated by Turkomans...

 

His mothers side is Macedonian Turks which are purely peasant people.The nomadic tribe of Turks called Yoruks mostly living in Balkan.

 

yes Ataturk is turkish definitely. and He made a great works for us. If beloved Ataturk didn't exist, now Turkey wasn't today. may Allah accept his heaven.

 

sana helal olsun Aslanoglu kardesim yazdiklarindan oturu. diger yazilanlara gelince okudugumda hayrete dustum. Ataturk'un ulkeyi emanet ettigi genclige bak, soyleyecegim tek sey hepinizi Allah'a havale ediyorum. biz vatansever gencler oldugu surece asla emellerinize ulasamayacaksiniz.

 

MUSTAFA KEMALLER OLMEZ!!!!!!!!!

 

ISTANBUL ULKU OCAKLARI DERNEGI

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sana helal olsun Aslanoglu kardesim yazdiklarindan oturu. diger yazilanlara gelince  okudugumda hayrete dustum. Ataturk'un ulkeyi emanet ettigi genclige bak, soyleyecegim tek sey hepinizi Allah'a havale ediyorum. biz vatansever gencler oldugu surece asla emellerinize ulasamayacaksiniz.

 

MUSTAFA KEMALLER OLMEZ!!!!!!!!!

 

ISTANBUL ULKU OCAKLARI DERNEGI

 

 

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think he is atheist

Ustad Bediuzzaman says he is Sofyan (Dajjal of Islam)

ma salama

 

 

Resource for my statement;

 

“Evet Karabekir, Arapoğlu’nun yavelerini Türk oğullarına öğretmek için Kuran’ı Türkçe’ye tercüme ettireceğim ve böylece de okutturacağım, ta ki budalalık edip de aldanmakta devam etmesinler..†Atatürk

Kazım Karabekir-Paşaların Kavgası Syf,159

 

Benim bir dinim yok ve bazen bütün dinlerin denizin dibini boylamasını istiyorum. Hükümetini ayakta tutmak için dini kullanmaya gerek duyanlar zayıf yöneticilerdir, adeta halkı bir kapana kıstırırlar. Benim halkım demokrasi ilkelerini gerçeğin emirlerini ve bilimin öğretilerini öğrenecektir. Batıl inançlardan vazgeçilmelidir. İsteyen istediği gibi ibadet edebilir. Herkes kendi vicdanının sesini dinler. Ama bu davranış ne sağduyulu mantıkla çelişmeli ne de başkalarının özgürlüğüne karşı çıkmasına yol açmalıdır.. Atatürk-1926

Andrew Mango, Atatürk Syf.447

 

ve Üstad Bediüzzaman'ın Ankara ziyareti sonrası sözleri;

 

1338'de Ankara'ya gittim. İslâm ordusunun Yunan'a galebesinden neş'e alan ehl-i îmanın kuvvetli efkârı içinde, gâyet müdhiş bir zındıka fikri, içine girmek ve bozmak ve zehirlendirmek için dessasane çalıştığını gördüm. Eyvah dedim, bu ejderha îmanın erkânına ilişecek! O vakit, şu âyet-i kerime bedahet derecesinde vücud ve vahdaniyeti ifham ettiği cihetle ondan istimdad edip, o zındıkanın başını dağıtacak derecede Kur'an-ı Hakîm'den alınan kuvvetli bir bürhanı, Arabî Risalesinde yazdım. Ankara'da, Yeni Gün Matbaası'nda tab'ettirmiştim. Fakat maatteessüf Arabî bilen az ve ehemmiyetle bakanlar da nadir olmakla beraber, gâyet muhtasar ve mücmel bir surette o kuvvetli bürhan tesirini göstermedi. Maatteessüf, o dinsizlik fikri hem inkişaf etti, hem kuvvet buldu.

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Beautifull and informative posts. Thanks to the pious Muslims of Turkey on this board for defending their deen in a time of trials and tribulations that are so bad there.

 

This subject has come up many times about Muslims and Turkey and i was always confused until one day i met a young Turkish brother and I said to him "Tell me about Mustapha Kamal Attaturk" to which he replied:

 

"Do not ever say to me MUSTAFA KAMAL ATTATURK"

 

He isnt my father and he certainly is not the "Father Of The Turks" (what Attaturk means).

 

Say "Mustapha Kamal" when mentioning.

 

I was a bit Stunned :D

 

I said of course i wont from now and i will inshAllah tell all my Muslim brothers and sisters to repeat this and not say "Ataturk" after his name. I then concluded from information from him:

 

1) Do not beleive everything the Western Media tell you about Turkey, generally the southern and eastern sides are more piouis Muslims and if you got into the Villages there then they are no different and very religious and pious Muslims.

 

2) Istanbul was called "ISLAMBUL" AND LITERALLY MEANS "Lots of Islam" "Bul" in Turkiyyah means "a lot of". So the Ottomans when they conquered this region from the Christians named the city "ISLAMBUL" (ie> Lots of Islam).

 

3) Cities are quite bad and the the coasts on the western side (Capital and others) and very secularised, however just as much as there is bad stuff there with the govt which oppresses Islam in Society - there are also of course pious Muslims there.

 

They just never get the air time.

 

Or the Media Coverage.

 

Or the newspaper stories

 

That they deserve.

 

Because they (the establishment) want to potray their side of the story so as to make others think and look and do that way "OK everyone is like that we might aswell" etc...

 

4) Goto actually Turkiyyah and you will see many Pious Muslims on the streets and hear the (www.)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_www.gawaher(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/glossary/glossary_a000.html#adhaan"]adhaan[/url]. As someone in the posters said so himself about the Alhamdullilah big congregation in Fajr prayers.

 

5) MARTIAL LAWS HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED IN TURKEYS HISTORY EVERY TIME THE PEOPLE ROSE UP TO THE KAFFIR GOVNT (from thru the 60s,70s,80s etc...) EACH TIME THEY WERE MET WITH FORCE. IT IS A MISCONCEPTION TO SAY THEY DO NOT CARE EVERY TIME THEY TRY AND DO SOMETHING THEY ARE KILLED.

 

Finally, the brother then lead the Jamaat prayers with us and had a better knowledge of Tajweed and Tilawaat than even myself

 

And the guy was only about 20.... I was stunned :D

 

Wallahi since that day my whole perception of Turkish people changed.... SubhanAllah.

 

May Allah(swt) bring back the deen FULL FORCE in Turkiyyah and destory the KAAFIRS plans of what they want.

 

:D

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salam

Gift to my Turkish brothers

 

Anasheed in Turkish

 

Album Name : Ozgurluk Turkusu (Freedom Song)

Singers : Grup Direnis (Firqat al-Moqawama)

 

(www.)"http://dildade/dosyalar/Ozgurluk-Turkusu/Affet-Beni-Allahim.mp3"]Affet Beni Allah'im (Oh.. Allah.. Forgive me)[/url]

 

(www.)"http://dildade/dosyalar/Ozgurluk-Turkusu/Kahrol-Amerika.mp3"]Karol Amerikka (Down with America)[/url]

 

(www.)"http://dildade/dosyalar/Ozgurluk-Turkusu/Selam.mp3"]Salam (Peace)[/url]

 

(www.)"http://dildade/dosyalar/Ozgurluk-Turkusu/ozgurluk-icin.mp3"]Ozgurluk icin (for freedom)[/url]

 

(www.)"http://dildade/dosyalar/Ozgurluk-Turkusu/ozgurluk-turkusu.mp3"]Ozgurluk Turkusu (Song of Freedom)[/url]

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Salaam to my sisters and brothers;

 

I respect your views, whether they are different then mine or not, but I feel the need to state my own. Although I live in Canada, my father grew up in Turkiye and lived there until he was 23. It is said that the Turks have a great sense of national pride, and I must agree. They are very, very proud of the country they live in. A very admirable quality.

 

I found my path to Islam by myself, not because of any family members. I am very proud to be Islamic, but I am also very proud to be Turkish. Mustafa Kemal Atatürk made the country what it is today, and I have to thank him for that. I do not agree with the strict ban on the wearing of hijab, I feel that is unnessecary and a bad choice. However, he helped Turkiye become the proud, strong, beautifulcountry that it is today. The Ottoman Empire was ended, everyone was scrambling around for power, and they needed a man like Mustafa Kemal to help them. Althoughhe instilled a few laws that are over the top, he also gave the Turks a sense of pride for their country, a love of education, and he was also in favour of equal rights for men and women. I think it is excellent that women have the right to vote and drive cars. He did make a few bad laws, but he has done a lot of good as well.

 

Also, Turkiye and the European Union have been negoitiating talks for quite awhile. If Turkiye is to entire the EU, Atatürk's values will be replaced with that of the EU. Now, do you all really think that is better? The EU is not in favour of any Islamic values. Atatürk was respectfull of at least a few of them.

 

I am not trying to convince anyone otherwise, I am simply stating my opinion. I am proud to say I am Turkish, and a child of the country of Atatürk.

 

Lol, I just realised no one has posted in this for months. Sorry for dragging up an old topic, although perhaps it is one that should be discussed?

 

With respect, Huriyyah

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Sister,

 

My name is Fatih and I'm from Istanbul.

 

Nice to see you here. :D

 

:D

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it s a big problem in turkey that was Ataturk a bad or good person?i think it s so silly to argue about him.Now hes dead.Yes he was a good commander,and he did a lot of revolition(i m not sure about they're good or bad). But if we start to discuss about him,this matter wont solve. And please dont use this site for your own profit -ulkucu genclık- (ülkücü olabilirsin kardeş ama burda kimse sana bunu sormuyo,hepimiz müslümanız we farklı ülkelerden insanlarız)

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Salamu alaykum!!

I am from Turkey/Istanbul.I commonly read the writings which you guys posted here and i want to add something too. :D

Though Turkish peaople are not exactly like their grandfathers, they are not that bad, you guys are so pesimistic :D though i see many people who dont look like that they are religious,i usually find people in a religion part from their inside.. they can pray regularly and try to become a good muslim but as you know, the bans dont allow them to do them..but, for example, i know lots of females who dont wear scarf but they pray at home for 5 times in the day and they value the religion things a lot..

i must confess that the worst thing is education in Turkey...from the beginning they dont teach good,for example, a teacher may say to a girl this :

"dont stand so far from your boy mates, they are your brothers anyways,no matter how much you close to them.." etc.. or some teacher support teenagers to make have gf / bf each other :s so, the education is far from Islam and religion lesson is not really enough...But our Masjids are getting full usually. :D and i believe that if every person works out for telling the truth to his sisters and brothers,they will not lose their way once again forever :D i hear lots of histories about discoverings Islam even though they're muslims but not really religious ones.. My dad's family is not religious but Alhamdulillah my father discovered the beautie of Islam when he was in university thanks to a Sheihk whose name is Muzaffer Ozak.. And alhamdulillah he tried to bring up his 3 daughters as good muslims :D

 

Anyways i am talking a lot,its time to go another places in forum now :D :D

 

Love ya all bros and sisters :D

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so, the education is far from Islam and religion lesson is not really enough...But our Masjids are getting full usually. :D and i believe that if every person works out for telling the truth to his sisters and brothers,they will not lose their way once again forever :D

 

yes you are right sis.the education is far from Islam ...and our government too...i want to go to university with wearing hijab...but i cant do that:(

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Peace

 

I would like to visit turkey (Istanbul) very soon, I think I would love it. What attracts me about turkey the most is that it is a muslim majority country with beautiful Masjids and culture while at the same time not being so backward and opressive like some extremist countries such as Saudi. So turkey is kind of like a western country except Islamic. Very interesting combination.

 

Peace

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hmm, pretty interesting stuff about Turkey here... my friend Leah is residing in Turkey at the moment and she has told me about the education there being sort of 'not her cup of tea'... anyhu, she'll be back in the UK soon anyway.

 

Oh yes brother^ must agree that the Masjids in Turkey are beautiful...muzur my dear, you're still my tour guider when i come there right? :D

 

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muzur my dear, you're still my tour guider when i come there right? :sl:

:j:

 

of course!!!i didnt forget it!!i'm looking forward you to come :sl:

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Peace

 

I would like to visit turkey (Istanbul) very soon, I think I would love it. What attracts me about turkey the most is that it is a muslim majority country with beautiful Masjids and culture while at the same time not being so backward and opressive like some extremist countries such as Saudi.

 

Peace

 

yeah brother, istanbul is the most beautiful city of Turkey in my opinion.i dont know maybe its because of i am from istanbul since my birth :sl: but no no, its not really just because of it, its also because of the people,the great sea,great Masjids which you feel like you are flying on air when you are praying in! etc...trust me it is more than you saw in pictures and videos of Istanbul..you should see here with your own eyes actually :sl: salamu alaykum

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Turkey the beautiful country :sl:

 

The Flag of Islam went down there and by the will of Allah it will raise back there....

 

I see the bright light of Islam upcoming on Turkey....

 

Wassalam

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salamun alaikum,

 

i am so glad to c here many guys from turkey, even istanbul like me. last year, there were not so many people. i am so happy with that......

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Yeah Elif,i've been here for a long time but now you seem to be away lol. I would like to know you more..

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Talking Turkey: The Story of How the Unofficial Bird of the United States Got Named After a Country[using large font size is not allowed]

How did the turkey get its name? This seemingly harmless question popped into my head one morning as I realized that the holidays were once again upon us. After all, I thought, there's nothing more American than a turkey. Their meat saved the pilgrims from starvation during their first winter in New England. Out of gratitude, if you can call it that, we eat them for Thanksgiving dinner, and again at Christmas, and gobble them up in sandwiches all year long.

 

Every fourth grader can tell you that Benjamin Franklin was particularly fond of the wild turkey, and even campaigned to make it, and not the bald eagle, the national symbol. So how did such a creature end up taking its name from a medium sized country in the Middle East?

 

Was it just a coincidence? I wondered. The next day I mentioned my musings to my landlord, whose wife is from Brazil. "That's funny," he said, "In Portuguese the word for turkey is peru.' Same bird, different country." Hmm.

 

With my curiosity piqued, I decided to go straight to the source. That very afternoon I found myself a Turk and asked him how to say turkey in Turkish. "Turkey?" he said. "Well, we call turkeys hindi, which means, you know, from India." India? This was getting weird.

 

I spent the next few days finding out the word for turkey in as many languages as I could think of, and the more I found out, the weirder things got. In Arabic, for instance, the word for turkey is Ethiopian bird, while in Greek it is gallapoula or French girl The Persians, meanwhile, call them buchalamun which means, appropriately enough, chameleon.

 

In Italian, on the other hand, the word for turkey is tacchino which, my Italian relatives assured me, means nothing but the bird. "But," they added, "it reminds us of something else. In Italy we call corn, which as everybody knows comes from America, grano turco, or Turkish grain". So here we were back to Turkey again! And as if things weren't already confusing enough, a further consultation with my Turkish informant revealed that the Turks call corn misir which is also their word for Egypt! By this point, things were clearly getting out of hand.

 

But I persevered nonetheless, and just as I was about to give up hope, a pattern finally seemed to emerge from this bewildering labyrinth. In French, it turns out, the word for turkey is dinde" meaning from India" just like in Turkish. The words in both German and Russian had similar meanings, so I was clearly on to something. The key, I reasoned, was to find out what turkeys are called in India, so I called up my high school friend's wife, who is from an old Bengali family, and popped her the question.

 

"Oh," she said, "We don't have turkeys in India. They come from America. Everybody knows that."

 

"Yes," I insisted, "but what do you call them?" "Well, we don't have them!" she said. She wasn't being very helpful. Still, I persisted: "Look, you must have a word for them. Say you were watching an American movie translated from English and the actors were all talking about turkeys. What would they say?"

 

Well...I suppose in that case they would just say the American word, turkey Like I said, we don't have them." So there I was, at a dead end. I began to realize only too late that I had unwittingly stumbled upon a problem whose solution lay far beyond the capacity of my own limited resources.

 

Obviously I needed serious professional assistance. So the next morning I scheduled an appointment with Prof. Sinasi Tekin of Harvard University, a world-renowned philologist and expert on Turkic languages. If anyone could help me, I figured it would be professor Tekin.

 

As I walked into his office on the following Tuesday, I knew I would not be disappointed. Prof. Tekin had a wizened, grandfatherly face, a white, bushy, knowledgeable beard, and was surrounded by stack upon stack of just the sort of hefty, authoritative books which were sure to contain a solution to my vexing Turkish mystery.

 

I introduced myself, sat down, and eagerly awaited a dose of Prof. Tekin's erudition.

 

"You see," he said, "In the Turkish countryside there is a kind of bird, which is called a Çulluk. It looks like a turkey but it is much smaller, and its meat is very delicious. Long before the discovery of America, English merchants had already discovered the delicious Çulluk, and began exporting it back to England, where it became very popular, and was known as a 'Turkey bird' or simply a turkey. Then, when the English came to America, they mistook the birds here for Çulluks, and so they began calling them turkey also. But other peoples weren't so easily fooled. They knew that these new birds came from America, and so they called them things like 'India birds,' Peruvian birds, or Ethiopian birds. You see, India, Peru and Ethiopia were all common names for the New World in the early centuries, both because people had a hazier understanding of geography, and because it took a while for the name 'America' to catch on.

 

"Anyway, since that time Americans have begun exporting their birds everywhere, and even in Turkey people have started eating them, and have forgotten all about their delicious çulluk. This is a shame, because çulluk meat is really much, much tastier".

 

Prof. Tekin seemed genuinely sad as he explained all this to me. I did my best to comfort him, and tried to express my regret at hearing of the unfairly cruel fate of the delicious çulluk.

 

Deep down, however, I was ecstatic. I finally had a solution to this holiday problem, and knew I would be able once again to enjoy the main course of my traditional Thanksgiving dinner without reservation.

 

Giancarlo Casale

Edited by bud

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is it wise for a gruop of good looking bachelors go on holiday to turkey?

my freind and i want to go soon, but not sure.

 

 

it is an old post however i can't help getting angry while reading. how can you tolerate such a question my dear Turkish sisters and brothers?

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