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Is this true that Islam allows the victorious muslims that won a war to take women and children slaves?

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doesn't the hadith and qur'an count?

Im sure there are ayat's that can be posted here.

 

For example take the widely aknowledged battle of the muslims against the Banu Qurayza tribe who sided with the meccans against the muslims in which 700 or so men were beheaded by mohammad (good cause they were trying to kill the muslims) but their women and children were taken as slaves. Women were distributed to the warriors as concubines.

 

33:50 - "Prophet, We have made lawful to you the wives to whom you have granted dowries and the slave girls whom God has given you as booty."

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They used the word "booty"?

 

Ha ha no. Also, there is no 'they'. The Quran, the word of God (as opposed to the work of 'they' like the Bible), does not include the word booty. It includes only words in Arabic, and the word booty is one translator's interpretation of the Arabic.

 

I'm about to find these verses and put them into context.

 

be right back...

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033.050

YUSUFALI: O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

PICKTHAL: O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and those whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as spoils of war, and the daughters of thine uncle on the father's side and the daughters of thine aunts on the father's side, and the daughters of thine uncle on the mother's side and the daughters of thine aunts on the mother's side who emigrated with thee, and a believing woman if she give herself unto the Prophet and the Prophet desire to ask her in marriage - a privilege for thee only, not for the (rest of) believers - We are Aware of that which We enjoined upon them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess - that thou mayst be free from blame, for Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.

SHAKIR: O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war, and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who fled with you; and a believing woman if she gave herself to the Prophet, if the Prophet desired to marry her-- specially for you, not for the (rest of) believers; We know what We have ordained for them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess in order that no blame may attach to you; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

 

...to be continued...

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033.051

YUSUFALI: Thou mayest defer (the turn of) any of them that thou pleasest, and thou mayest receive any thou pleasest: and there is no blame on thee if thou invite one whose (turn) thou hadst set aside. This were nigher to the cooling of their eyes, the prevention of their grief, and their satisfaction - that of all of them - with that which thou hast to give them: and Allah knows (all) that is in your hearts: and Allah is All-Knowing, Most Forbearing.

PICKTHAL: Thou canst defer whom thou wilt of them and receive unto thee whom thou wilt, and whomsoever thou desirest of those whom thou hast set aside (temporarily), it is no sin for thee (to receive her again); that is better; that they may be comforted and not grieve, and may all be pleased with what thou givest them. Allah knoweth what is in your hearts (O men), and Allah is ever Forgiving, Clement.

SHAKIR: You may put off whom you please of them, and you may take to you whom you please, and whom you desire of those whom you had separated provisionally; no blame attaches to you; this is most proper, so that their eyes may be cool and they may not grieve, and that they should be pleased, all of them with what you give them, and Allah knows what is in your hearts; and Allah is Knowing, Forbearing.

 

033.052

YUSUFALI: It is not lawful for thee (to marry more) women after this, nor to change them for (other) wives, even though their beauty attract thee, except any thy right hand should possess (as handmaidens): and Allah doth watch over all things.

PICKTHAL: It is not allowed thee to take (other) women henceforth, nor that thou shouldst change them for other wives even though their beauty pleased thee, save those whom thy right hand possesseth. And Allah is ever Watcher over all things.

SHAKIR: It is not allowed to you to take women afterwards, nor that you should change them for other wives, though their beauty be pleasing to you, except what your right hand possesses and Allah is Watchful over all things.

 

Source: (www.)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/033.qmt.html"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/033.qmt.html[/url]

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So....can you break this down into simple english man? I never was good with reading old english style speech with all its "thou"s and "possesseth"s

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Now, instead of interpreting these myself it would be more acceptable for you to read what the Tafsir of Ibn Kathir has to say about this verse:

 

(50. O Prophet! Verily, We have made lawful to you your wives, to whom you have paid their due (dowery), and those (slaves) whom your right hand possesses -- whom Allah has given to you, and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who migrated with you, and a believing woman if she offers herself to the Prophet, and the Prophet wishes to marry her -- a privilege for you only, not for the (rest of) the believers. Indeed We know what We have enjoined upon them about their wives and those (slaves) whom their right hands possess, in order that there should be no difficulty on you. And Allah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.)

 

Allah says, addressing His Prophet that He has made lawful for him of women his wives to whom he has given the dowery, which is what is meant by "their due'', which is used here, as was stated by Mujahid and others. The dowery which he gave to his wives was twelve and half `Uqiyah (measures of gold) so they all received five hundred Dirhams except for Umm Habibah bint Abi Sufyan, to whom An-Najashi, may Allah have mercy on him, gave four hundred Dinars (on behalf of the Prophet ) Safiyyah bint Huyay, whom he chose from among the prisoners of Khaybar, then he set her free, making her release her dowery. A similar case was that of Juwayriyah bint Al-Harith Al-Mustalaqiyyah -- he paid off the contract to buy her freedom from Thabit bin Qays bin Shammas and married her. May Allah be pleased with them all.

 

 

﴿æóãóÇ ãóáóßóÊú íóãöíäõßó ãöãøóÂ ÃóÃóÂÃó Çááøóåõ Úóáóíúßó﴾

 

 

(those (slaves) whom your right hand possesses whom Allah has given to you,) means, `the slave-girls whom you took from the war booty are also permitted to you.' He owned Safiyyah and Juwayriyah, then he manumitted them and married them, and he owned Rayhanah bint Sham`un An-Nadariyyah and Mariyah Al-Qibtiyyah, the mother of his son Ibrahim, upon him be peace; they were both among the prisoners, may Allah be pleased with them.

 

To be continued...

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﴿æóÈóäóÇÊö Úóãøößó æóÈóäóÇÊö ÚóãøóÜÊößó æóÈóäóÇÊö ÎóÇáößó æóÈóäóÇÊö ÎóÜáóÜÊößó﴾

 

 

(and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts) This is justice which avoids going to either extreme, for the Christians do not marry a woman unless there are seven grandfathers between the man and the woman (i.e., they are very distantly related or not at all), and the Jews allow a man to marry his brother's daughter or his sister's daughter. So the pure and perfect Shari`ah came to cancel out the extremes of the Christians, and permitted marriage to the daughter of a paternal uncle or aunt, or the daughter of a maternal uncle or aunt, and forbade the excesses of the Jews who allowed marriage to the daughter of a brother or sister which is an abhorrent thing.

 

 

﴿æóÇãúÑóÃóÉð ãøõÄúãöäóÉð Åöä æóåóÈóÊú äóÃúÓóåóÇ áöáäøóÈöìøö Åöäú ÃóÑóÇÃó ÇáäøóÈöìøõ Ãóä íóÓúÊóäßöÃóåóÇ ÎóÇáöÕóÉð áøóßó﴾

 

 

(and a believing woman if she offers herself to the Prophet, and the Prophet wishes to marry her -- a privilege for you only,) means, `also lawful for you, O Prophet, is a believing woman if she offers herself to you, to marry her without a dowery, if you wish to do so.' This Ayah includes two conditions. Imam Ahmad recorded from Sahl bin Sa`d As-Sa`idi that a woman came to the Messenger of Allah and said, "O Messenger of Allah, verily, I offer myself to you (for marriage).'' She stood there for a long time, then a man stood up and said, "O Messenger of Allah, marry her to me if you do not want to marry her.'' The Messenger of Allah said:

 

 

«åóáú ÚöäúÃóßó ãöäú ÔóíúÃò ÊõÕúÃöÞõåóÇ ÅöíøóÇåõ¿»

 

 

(Do you have anything that you could give to her as a dowery) He said, "I have only this garment of mine.'' The Messenger of Allah said:

 

 

«Åöäú ÃóÚúØóíúÊóåóÇ ÅöÒóÇÑóßó ÌóáóÓúÊó áóÇ ÅöÒóÇÑó áóßó¡ ÃóÇáúÊóãöÓú ÔóíúÆðÇ»

 

 

(If you give her your garment, you will be left with no garment. Look for something.) He said, "I do not have anything.'' He said:

 

 

«ÇáúÊóãöÓú æóáóæú ÎóÇÊóãðÇ ãöäú ÃóÃöíû

 

 

(Look for something, even if it is only an iron ring.) So he looked, but he could not find anything. Then the Messenger of Allah said to him:

 

 

«åóáú ãóÚóßó ãöäó ÇáúÞõÑúÂäö ÔóíúÃñ¿»

 

TBC

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(Do you have ﴿know﴾ anything of the Qur'an) He said, "Yes, Surah such and such and Surah and such,'' he named the Surahs. So, the Messenger of Allah said:

 

 

«ÒóæøóÌúÊõßóåóÇ ÈöãóÇ ãóÚóßó ãöäó ÇáúÞõÑúÂä»

 

 

(I marry her to you with what you know of the Qur'an.) It was also recorded by (Al-Bukhari and Muslim) from the Hadith of Malik. Ibn Abi Hatim recorded a narration from his father that `A'ishah said: "The woman who offered herself to the Prophet was Khawlah bint Hakim.'' Al-Bukhari recorded that `A'ishah said, "I used to feel jealous of those women who offered themselves to the Prophet and I said, `Would a woman offer herself' When Allah revealed the Ayah:

 

 

﴿ÊõÑúÌöì ãóä ÊóÔóÂÃõ ãöäúåõäøó æóÊõÄúæöì Åöáóíúßó ãóä ÊóÔóÂÃõ æóãóäö ÇÈúÊóÛóíúÊó ãöãøóäú ÚóÒóáúÊó ÃóáÇó ÌõäóÇÃó Úóáóíúßó﴾

 

 

(You can postpone whom you will of them, and you may receive whom you will. And whomsoever you desire of those whom you have set aside, it is no sin on you) I said, `I see that your Lord hastens to confirm your desires.''' Ibn Abi Hatim recorded that Ibn `Abbas said: "The Messenger of Allah did not have any wife who offered herself to him. '' This was recorded by Ibn Jarir. In other words, he did not accept any of those who offered themselves to him, even though they were lawful for him -- a ruling which applied to him alone. The matter was left to his own choice, as Allah says:

 

 

﴿Åöäú ÃóÑóÇÃó ÇáäøóÈöìøõ Ãóä íóÓúÊóäßöÃóåóÇ﴾

 

 

(and ﴿if﴾ the Prophet wishes to marry her) meaning, if he chooses to do so.

 

 

﴿ÎóÇáöÕóÉð áøóßó ãöä Ãõæäö ÇáúãõÄúãöäöíäó﴾

 

TBC

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(a privilege for you only, not for the (rest of) the believers.) `Ikrimah said: "This means, it is not permissible for anyone else to marry a woman who offers herself to him; if a woman offers herself to a man, it is not permissible for him (to marry her) unless he gives her something.'' This was also the view of Mujahid, Ash-Sha`bi and others. In other words, if a woman offers herself to a man, when he consummates the marriage, he has to give her a dowery like that given to any other woman of her status, as the Messenger of Allah ruled in the case of Barwa` bint Washiq when she offered herself in marriage; the Messenger of Allah ruled that she should be given a dowery that was appropriate for a woman like her after her husband died. Death and consummation are the same with regard to the confirmation of the dowery, and the giving of a dowery appropriate to the woman's status in the case of those who offer themselves to men other than the Prophet is an established ruling. With regard to the Prophet himself, he is not obliged to give a dowery to a woman who offers herself to him, even if he consummated the marriage, because he has the right to marry without a dowery, Wali (representative) or witnesses, as we have seen in the story of Zaynab bint Jahsh, may Allah be pleased with her. Qatadah said, concerning the Ayah:

 

 

﴿ÎóÇáöÕóÉð áøóßó ãöä Ãõæäö ÇáúãõÄúãöäöíäó﴾

 

 

(a privilege for you only, not for the (rest of) the believers.) no woman has the right to offer herself to any man without a Wali or a dowery, except to the Prophet .

 

 

﴿ÞóÃú ÚóáöãúäóÇ ãóÇ ÃóÑóÖúäóÇ Úóáóíúåöãú Ãöì ÃóÒúæóÌöåöÜãú æóãóÇ ãóáóßóÊú ÃóíúãóÜäõåõãú﴾

 

 

(Indeed We know what We have enjoined upon them about their wives and those (servants) whom their right hands possess,) Ubayy bin Ka`b, Mujahid, Al-Hasan, Qatadah and Ibn Jarir said, concerning the Ayah:

 

 

﴿ÞóÃú ÚóáöãúäóÇ ãóÇ ÃóÑóÖúäóÇ Úóáóíúåöãú Ãöì ÃóÒúæóÌöåöÜãú﴾

 

 

(Indeed We know what We have enjoined upon them about their wives) means, `concerning the limiting of their number to four free women, and whatever they wish of slave-girls, and the conditions of a representative, dowery and witnesses to the marriage. This is with regard to the Ummah (the people), but We have granted an exemption in your case and have not imposed any of these obligations upon you.'

 

 

﴿áößóíúáÇó íóßõæäó Úóáóíúßó ÃóÑóÌñ æóßóÇäó Çááøóåõ ÛóÃõæÑÇð ÑøóÃöíãÇð﴾

 

 

(in order that there should be no difficulty on you. And Allah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.)

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So, the 9th post in this topic was the most correct explanation of the verse you quoted and specifically the part you had issue with. To reiterate, the Tafsir was:

 

(those (slaves) whom your right hand possesses whom Allah has given to you,) means, `the slave-girls whom you took from the war booty are also permitted to you.' He owned Safiyyah and Juwayriyah, then he manumitted them and married them, and he owned Rayhanah bint Sham`un An-Nadariyyah and Mariyah Al-Qibtiyyah, the mother of his son Ibrahim, upon him be peace; they were both among the prisoners, may Allah be pleased with them.

 

Which means that this verse was not sent to encourage that Muslims take captives of war to satisfy their sexual desires, but that it was lawful for The Prophet, may Allah exalt his mention, to MARRY them.

 

I hope this clears up your confusion.

 

Peace,

AS

 

PS-Notice how much commentary there is on one verse? This the commentary of only one reputable scholar, of which there have been several.

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So....can you break this down into simple english man? I never was good with reading old english style speech with all its "thou"s and "possesseth"s

 

I could but Mr. Ibn Kathir broke it down nearly word for word hundreds of years ago. Also, he knew the history and life of The Prophet much better and so his commentary is much more rich. Have a look :D

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"Which means that this verse was not sent to encourage that Muslims take captives of war to satisfy their sexual desires, but that it was lawful for The Prophet, may Allah exalt his mention, to MARRY them."

 

Thx for the very educative posts Allah's slave.

It clears up a lot of things. You answered my questions about Islam and slaves.

 

So mohammed was allowed to kidnap (thats what it amounts to basically) and marry the women of men he has killed in battle. Do you think a wife who'se husband was killed or a daughter who'se father was killed by mohammed and his men would be happy to spend the rest of their lives with their family's killer? I dont think so. So Islam allows slavery in certain conditions thats all i wanted to know, its obvious the answer is Yes,

 

 

Thank you.

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:D

 

Well, if you read more carefully the slaves were freed before being married. In Islam, for the first time in the history of civil rights, women were given the right to accept or deny the man's marriage proposal.

 

So, to refute what you have said, if the woman did not want to spend her life married to Muhammad, may Allah exalt his mention, then He could not have her as a wife. To, somehow, marry this unwilling woman would be un-Islamic and the enemies of The Prophet (SAW) would have seized on this hypocrisy to attack the faith of the believers.

 

This means, what you have asserted was not the example; but a fantasy you have created in your mind to convince yourself, for whatever reason, that Islam permits the poor treatment of women.

 

It certainly does not.

 

Another example of a right granted to women for the first time is the right for a woman to initiate divorce. If the freed slaves that were married to The Prophet (SAW) hated to be with him, they could have demanded to be divorced. A denial of this right, also, would be un-Islamic and would have benefitted the enemies of Islam just the same.

 

This, again, is not what history shows us.

 

For the sake of comparison, let's also consider the circumstances of war. If the majority of men from one side of a battle are killed, what happened to the women and children from their area? Certainly life wasn't like today where women worked at the office and children typically went to school all day. These were people who were, to some extent, dependent on the men in society. So, instead of raping them or robbing them for their wealth, they were able to remarry and have someone obligated to provide for them.

 

Now, tell me if a woman, now a widow, with a couple kids is suddenly thrust upon a society to fend for herself, how many men will be clamoring to take on that responsibility? Look at all the single mothers in America and you will have your answer. Then imagine that it's not only some women in this situation, but most women in a certain area. Their condition begins to look increasingly dire.

 

With that in mind, it's a mercy that these women, although they had to suffer the loss of a husband, were able to remarry at their own discretion AND have the ability to initiate a divorce if they were unsatisfied. I'd be shocked if you could show me another society contemporary to the early Muslims that showed such mercy to the people it conquered.

 

To conclude, you shouldn't think these questions you have are in some way forbidden or taboo to ask. These questions help us Muslims better learn the intricacies of our faith and to show the non-Muslims the divine wisdom behind the actions of The Prophet, may Allah exalt his mention.

 

Peace,

AS

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I agree, and yes taking them as "captives" might appear to be a humane way of dealing with ppl that would prob die anyways.

 

But the thought of forcefully taking women and children against their will and enslaving them just sends chills down my spine, sorry.

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Additionally, here are some more Hadith concerning slaves:

 

Volume 1, Book 3, Number 97:

 

Narrated Abu Burda's father:

 

Allah's Apostle said "Three persons will have a double reward:

 

1. A Person from the people of the scriptures who believed in his prophet (Jesus or Moses) and then believed in the Prophet Muhammad (i .e. has embraced Islam).

 

2. A slave who discharges his duties to Allah and his master.

 

3. A master of a woman-slave who teaches her good manners and educates her in the best possible way (the religion) and manumits her and then marries her."

 

From this Hadith we learn that, although slavery was a part of life in this time period, freeing a slave was an act that will greatly increase a person's reward from Allah. Also, it reinforces what I have said: that slaves are married after being freed; which means that it's not a matter of compulsion.

 

...tbc...

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1603. Abu Ali Suwaid bin Muqarrin (May Allah be pleased with him) said: I was the seventh child of Banu Muqarrin and we had only one slave-girl. When the youngest of us once happened to slap her (on the face) the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) ordered us to set her free.

[Muslim].

 

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1604. Abu Mas`ud Al-Badri (May Allah be pleased with him) said: I was beating my slave with a whip when I heard a voice behind me which said: "Abu Mas`ud! Bear in mind...'' I did not recognize the voice for the intense anger I was in. Abu Mas`ud added: As he came near me, I found that he was the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) who was saying, "Abu Mas`ud! Bear in mind that Allah has more dominance upon you than you have upon your slave.'' Then I said: "I will never beat any slave in future.''

 

Another narration is: The whip dropped from my hand in awe of the Prophet (PBUH).

 

Still another narration is: I said: "He is free for the sake of Allah.'' He (PBUH) said, "If you had not done this, you would have been singed by the Fire.''

[Muslim].

 

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1606. It has been narrated that Hisham bin Hakim bin Hizam (May Allah be pleased with them) happened to pass by some (non-Arab) farmers of Syria who had been made to stand in the sun, and olive oil was poured on their heads. He said: "What is the matter?'' He was told that they had been detained for the non-payment of Jizyah. (Another narration says that they were being tortured for not having paid Al-Kharaj). Thereupon Hisham said: "I bear testimony to the fact that I heard the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) saying, `Allah will torment those who torment people in the world.''' Then he proceeded towards their Amir and reported this Hadith to him. The Amir then issued orders for their release.

[Muslim].

 

Presenting the above hadiths serve multiple purposes:

1. To show, unequivocally, that Islam commands people to treat their slaves & servants decently.

2. To show that Muslims, as people, may fall short of the mark but that is by NOT following this religion.

3. The punishment for mistreating a slave is severe (as shown in the second hadith).

 

2418. It is related from Abu Hurayra from the Prophet, "When a servant of one of you brings him food, if he does not sit with him, he should at least give him a morsel or two - or a bite or two. He is the one who prepared it."

 

This hadith shows us that the standard of Islam is to let slaves eat the same food as the master. In the kingdoms of The Prophet's contemporaries, like Heraclius or Khosrow II, the servants did not eat the same food as the kings, let alone the slaves...who weren't even allowed in the same rooms as the masters.

 

...tbc...

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And finally:

Book 004, Number 1815:

Kuraib, the freed slave of Ibn 'Abbas, reported that...

 

Book 004, Number 2069:

Thauban, the freed slave of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:...

 

Book 004, Number 1232:

Warrad, the freed slave of Mughira b. Shu'ba, reported:...

 

Book 004, Number 1316:

Abu Yunus, the freed slave of 'A'isha said:...

 

Book 004, Number 1561:

Abu Murra, the freed slave of Umm Hani, narrated...

 

the introduction to each hadith gives us an idea of how many of these slaves went on to embrace Islam. Would someone who reads the anti-Islam sites be able to suggest that the slaves were mistreated, or treated how we know the American colonists treated their slaves, if they went on to become companions of their masters?

 

:D

 

For the story of how a black slave became the FIRST person to perform the adhan, or call to prayer, (www.)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_www.gawaher(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/index.php?showtopic=4605"]click here.[/url]

 

...tbc...

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But the thought of forcefully taking women and children against their will and enslaving them just sends chills down my spine, sorry.

 

Which I wouldn't argue with. The point we need to keep in mind has 2 parts:

 

1. That Islam does NOT command that the victors of war take captives. This is NOT some type of religious obligation.

 

2. The reward is for FREEING the slave, and NOT for taking one.

 

This discussion should, aside from the obvious, also indicate how much Muhammad's (may Allah exalt his mention) contemporaries actually had to lose materially, as opposed to gain, by embracing this religion. For various obligations they neglected, like breaking oaths, the expiation was to free slaves.

 

For a read on that matter that's not my own opinion, see this wikipedia link:

(www.)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_en.wikipedia(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/wiki/Religion_and_slavery#Slavery_ithe_Qur.27an_and_hadith"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_en.wikipedia(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/wiki/Religion_and_...27an_and_hadit

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Imagine, why would someone embrace a way of life that if they neglect an obligation they have to pay such a valuable price as freeing a slave?!

 

Peace,

AS

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hehe yes, the Islamic idead is very noble , and certainly muhammad showed extreme mercy in his decisions, but the system itself is very prone to abuse by unscrupulous individuals looking to get rich from the slave trade. Im sure you're aware of the large scale slavery of latter muslim empires such as the ottomans. I wouldn't have a prob with this slavery "loophole" in Islam if muhammad was still around doing it his way, but the fact remains that the potential to enslave people is very high in Islamic civilization and there are always plenty of evil people who would most likely NOT free slaves for breaking oaths and such things.

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Salaam

I would like to mention that from my readings in Islamic History, it is quite clear to me that taking of slaves and booty in war was a prevalent custom among the Arab tribes even before the coming of Islam. Raiding was a normal and acceptable economic activity in Arabia. There were no written laws, but this was the accepted custom. Bravery, chivalry, etc. were understood in the context of these realities in the pre-Islamic Arabia. Taking slaves in wars wasn't a custom introduced by Islam. I don't see how I could interpret the verses of Quran and the sayings of the prophet to encourage taking of slaves, or waging wars in order to take slaves. In fact its quite the contrary, there is a huge movement toward freeing slaves in Islam and in treating people no matter who they are with kindness and respect.

However maybe it would be clearer to see on what context the wars were being fought.

 

Allah knows best

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I would also like to add from simple observation that taking of slaves was not only practiced at large in Muslim empires as you mention but many other empires actively engaged in the practice of slavery, for instance the British, Dutch, United States and many others. So the problem you raised is a valid one, but the cause of the problems dont lie with the Islam or Muslims only. It is a problem of human nature in general, which, thanks to God humanity is learning to address. In particular it is a problem associated with greed and materialism against which Islam and its practitioners are quite outspoken and active.

Another thing to note is that Muslims dont learn from Ottomans, or Umayyads or Abbasids, but Muslims primarily learn from the Quran, The prophet, the companions and the scholars. Misuses and ill education is a common problem which even the Muslims are outspoken an active against.

 

Salaam.

And thanks for your questions, and interest in the Islamic faith. We pray that god guides us to the correct path.

 

God Knows best.

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hehe yes, the Islamic idead is very noble , and certainly muhammad showed extreme mercy in his decisions, but the system itself is very prone to abuse by unscrupulous individuals looking to get rich from the slave trade. Im sure you're aware of the large scale slavery of latter muslim empires such as the ottomans. I wouldn't have a prob with this slavery "loophole" in Islam if muhammad was still around doing it his way, but the fact remains that the potential to enslave people is very high in Islamic civilization and there are always plenty of evil people who would most likely NOT free slaves for breaking oaths and such things.

 

Salam,

 

Again, u cant dictate the actions of the cretin people to religion that has had a great history. Go to ur local library brother and read some books on Islam. It seems ur focused on finding a flaw on Islam, :D when the other brother explained to you about slavery and Islam. U understood, but now u change ur arguments to saying there is "loophole" in the teaching.

 

Again, people must understand Islam through logic and reasoning, not just give out their humble opinion, and "make up" their own scenarios. Also, I suggest reading books on the slave trade. You must note, that their were planty of muslims who were cought and sent to the Americas. Please read up on this, as it will help you to understand.

 

Salam.

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