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Taliban Terrorists Targeting Afghan Schools, Especially Where Girls Are Allowed to Study

Monday, July 10, 2006

 

 

PORIAT, Afghanistan — For 14-year-old Mohammed Salam, his tent school was about all this mud-brick farming village had going for it. That was until suspected Taliban terrorists burned it to the ground.

 

"Now we are taught underneath trees," the teenager said as he and other students took exams in a cluster of trees near the place their school stood before it was destroyed more than a month ago.

 

"They (the Taliban) want us illiterate so we have nothing else to do but pick up a gun," Mohammed said Monday.

 

• CountryWatch: Afghanistan

 

The school in Poriat, a village 60 miles northeast of the capital, is like hundreds that a new Human Rights Watch report says have been attacked or forced to close in Afghanistan. The terrorist campaign targets state schools, particularly those for girls.

 

The report documents 204 attacks on schools, teachers and students since January 2005. Remnants of the toppled Taliban regime, other Islamic extremist groups and Afghan warlords are believed to be behind the campaign.

 

Zuhoor Afghan, the top adviser to Afghanistan's education minister, painted an even bleaker picture. He said terrorists had set fire to about 120 schools in the last four months and forced 200 more to close by threatening teachers and students. As a result, he said, more than 200,000 children were going without an education.

 

 

"Once they destroy a child's chance for education, there is nothing else for the young generation to do and it becomes very easy to encourage them to join their forces," the education minister said.

 

Motives abound for why terrorists would target schools. Insurgents claim educating girls is against Islam. They oppose government-funded schools for boys because they teach subjects besides religion. Targeting schools is also a tactic to shake the authority of the U.S.-backed government.

 

The spike in attacks on Afghan schools comes amid the most intense period in terrorist violence in Afghanistan since the Taliban regime was toppled for harboring Osama bin Laden following the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States.

 

Afghan said 40 students and teachers have been killed this year. An April 11 rocket attack on the Salabagh School in Asadabad, eastern Afghanistan, killed six pupils and wounded 14. Terrorists also beheaded a headmaster in the southern town of Qalat in January after he had refused to meet with their commander.

 

Sam Zarifi, a co-author of the Human Rights Watch report, said violence against Afghan schools dates to the 1979-89 Soviet occupation, when then Islamic fighters targeted schools as part of a similar ploy to spread instability aimed at ending the Russian presence.

 

"Attacks on schools, especially for girls, is a tried and proven insurgent tactic, but the pace and ferocity of the recent attacks has been unprecedented," Zarifi told The Associated Press.

 

Zarifi and education officials interviewed by the AP said most attacks are taking place in southern Afghanistan outside the relative peace of the capital Kabul, and are blamed on the Taliban. But other radical Islamic groups are believed to be behind many of the attacks and threats throughout eastern Afghanistan, where Al Qaeda-linked terrorists are active.

 

"Our teachers and our students are being threatened with letters from the Taliban left at their schools, homes and Masjids warning them not to go to school or they will be attacked," said Nabi Khushan, director of education in southern Zabul province.

 

The top United Nations official in Kabul, Tom Koenigs, deplored the school attacks and called on the government, local leaders and the international community to address the situation.

 

"One of the threats of the Taliban is to return to illiteracy and a lack of schools, particularly for girls," Koenigs told reporters at a news conference.

 

Koenigs recommended that every school burned must be replaced by either the international community or the government "as fast as possible."

 

In Poriat, Mohammed Salam and his friends study in the shade for as long as possible before the searing summer sun makes it impossible to work.

 

"It is very important that we get our school back, even if it is just another tent, as soon as possible," he said. "We need good teachers, good security and good lessons. I want to do something for my country in the future."

 

 

(www.)"foxnews/story/0,2933,202857,00.html"]foxnews/story/0,2933,202857,00.html[/url]

 

What a bunch of losers !

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PropellerAds

Yeah, the guys working at Fox News are a bunch of losers for spreading these lies

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Yeah, the guys working at Fox News are a bunch of losers for spreading these lies

 

 

 

You have a link for that ? And that was first reported by AP

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You have a link for that ? And that was first reported by AP

link for what? :D

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:D

 

he means a link for Fox spread lies....there is no link needed it's clear, why would they do such a thing..

 

:D

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he means a link for Fox spread lies....there is no link needed it's clear, why would they do such a thing..

 

:D

 

Here is a link : (www.)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_www.telegraphindia(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/1060109/asp/foreign/story_5698297.asp"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_www.telegraphindia(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/1060109/asp/...ory_5698297.asp[/url]

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Bowman

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:D dear muslims

 

FOXnews has always been Pro-US government al the time.

 

Though i dont expect someone like diverdown to understand Basic Norms

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Guest amani

Propaganda is vital when wanting to invade a country :D

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(CBS) The Taliban is making a comeback in Afghanistan, increasing its attacks on U.S. and allied forces and on Afghan government operations, including schools.

 

Recently, a camera crew happened to be on hand for such an attack — and things quickly turned ugly, as CBS News correspondent Sheila MacVicar reports.

 

Pictures of an Afghan school being burned to the ground by a resurgent Taliban, shot by an Afghani camera crew working for a British news program, are a rare example of the unstable and dangerous security situation in Afghanistan.

 

As the crew films, the Taliban fighters who set the fire suddenly appear and threaten to shoot the journalists. They also try to take the camera.

 

These Taliban say the schools are symbols of western intervention in Afghanistan. Under Taliban rule, education was restricted to the teachings of the Koran — and girls couldn't go to school at all.

 

Across Afghanistan, more than 160 schools, many of them newly built, have been burned. These Taliban say the schools are un-Islamic — foreign.

 

"The Koran tells us who our friends are," one says. "Americans? We don't want Americans. We don't want Americans, or anyone else. We'll look after our own country. Down with America.. Down with America!"

 

But while the Taliban fighters continue to argue with the crew about the camera, there's another shock — they are ambushed by Afghan government security forces.

 

Caught between the Taliban and the government forces, the camera crew tries to take shelter, moving toward the burning school.

 

In the confusion, and ignoring the protests of the producer, a soldier rains blows on the crew. In the background, another soldier begins to beat one of the Taliban under arrest. The beatings continue until a senior officer orders a halt. What's unusual this time is that the security forces showed up at all — more often than not, they can't or don't come.

 

Four years after they were driven from power by the U.S.-led invasion, officials and elders here say the Taliban is making a comeback.

 

Source: (www.)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_www.cbsnews(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/stories/2006/03/01/eveningnews/main1361563.shtml"]you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_www.cbsnews(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/stories/2006/03/01/...in1361563.shtml[/url]

 

 

 

If you would have posted this link (along with the other non-Foxnews links you posted) more people would have believed this.

 

It's a pity that the taliban are making a comeback....by burning schools of all things.

 

Peace

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as far as im aware i heard a news report that the taliban where burning schools because they where refusing to teach kids what the taliban wanted to learn...

 

how do we know what was being taught at them schools? kids could have been brainswashed into thinking that the us army is doing good in iraq and afghanistan and they arent stealing, baby killing, raping, etc..... for all we know the schools could have been teaching the kids to reject important issues within Islam... so can the taliban be blamed for burning down these brainwashing fascilities....? why would the west allow schools in afghanistan to teach kids the truth about the world when the only consequence would be more mujahideen?

 

now regarding taliban, ive noticed that most of them are old men....

 

however on the other hand maybe the taliban did want kids to be illiterate so that they cant study Islam themselves and implement real Islam that isnt oppressive, who knows in this day and age we dont know who to trust...

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Bismillahirrahmaanerraheem

 

however on the other hand maybe the taliban did want kids to be illiterate so that they cant study Islam themselves and implement real Islam that isnt oppressive, who knows in this day and age we dont know who to trust...

 

What's all this nonsense about Taliban not allowing schools. Not blaming you bro Shaidmahmood cause it seems many "sources" ("mainstream media") are saying it.

However, the Taliban never ever disallowed learning and teaching when they ruled, they simply refused to Build any schools for girls so long as they did not have enough to feed their people.

 

Who says the Taliban Only allowed the teaching of Quran in their schools? Where did this all come from???

 

If things go on like this and the US ends up destroying the Taliban and gaining even more power and control, I think people would eventually say things like "Taliban used to eat the flesh of little girls"!!!

 

The Taliban always cared for education and built hospitals and roads filled with doctors. Even women had jobs in Afghanistan, they simply couldnt have any job they wanted (only specific jobs or "women jobs").

 

Peace unto those who follow the Guidance

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Your information is wrong Newnew, they Taliban shut down many schools while they were in power.

 

Maybe it you who are falling for the Taliban propoganda?

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Six schools run by a Turkish Islamic group have been shut down in Afghanistan.

 

A representative for the schools said they had been ready to accept many of the Taleban's demands - that teachers should grow long beards, for example, and pupils wear turbans - but he said they could not agree to hand over their budget to the Taleban.

 

What excuses do you have for them now Newnew?

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peace.

 

it's obvious the media is lieing. everyone are liars except the pious taliban, the defenders of the deen. It's all a worldwide conspiracy to deiscredit the taliban who are loved by all afghans.

 

Yeah right.....this is why I stopped doing drugs a loong time ago ....and I suggest u do the same newnew lol :D

 

Peace

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:D dear muslims

 

FOXnews has always been Pro-US government al the time.

 

Though i dont expect someone like diverdown to understand Basic Norms

 

How about ignoring that and looking at the articles. Wow an american news channel is pro America. Wow!

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Wow, Thanks for proving me wrong Livius!!!

 

You absolutely believe that everything you dislike is lies and propaganda don't you. What a nice cosy bubbled wrapped little world you live in.

 

The Taliban weren't great! Saddam Hussein wasn't great! This doesn't mean that the lives of Afghans and Iraqis are better now, however this is due to the insurgents and terrorists within their own countries. Everyday I hear 50 Iraqis killed by a car bomb or 27 Shias killed at a fake checkpoint, Sunni Masjid blown up in sectarian violence. What can we do about the monsters doing this? Pull out and hope they get tired of murder?

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Bismillahirrahmaanerraheem

 

The Real monsters are the American soldiers and their leaders who not only started these wars, but also indescriminately murder civilians, and this is a Proven fact.

You cannot prove that the Taliban murdered children, or that they killed indiscrimately, but this has been proven many times regarding American soldiers.

Some of their soldiers have even confessed. Others lied, blaming the resistance for their own evil actions but it was later proven that the Americans were responsible for the massacares-and this happened in the case of Haditha.

And ofcourse, the using of illegal weapons such as white phosphorus, with which the Americans massacared thousands of civilians, and even animals in Fallujah.

 

The Al-Qaeda and Taliban have both denied responsiblity for the indicriminate murder of women and children which they are accused of.

They denied it, and the USA never proved them wrong, and if the USA started applying their own laws fairly and justly for once, then they would apply this: "Innocent until proven guilty".

Making false accusations is easy, especially for super powers such as the US, but proving themis not always as simple as it may sound.

We still do not even have any proof of Osama bin Laden's involvement in 9/11, which is what Supposedly started this war...

 

As for those who believe all these lies and accusations, and blame the Mujahideen for all these crimes just because the USA and its allies say so, then beware for you will be questioned for this in the after-life. Why do you believe known liars, why do you trust the untrustworthy?

 

Peace unto those who follow the Guidance

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(www.)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1331690.stm"]Source[/url]

 

The United Nations has called the situation in Afghanistan the worst humanitarian crisis in the world.

 

(This article was written when the Taliban was still in power, before 9/11)

 

Zahir Utaali comes from just across the river in what's now no-man's land. He first became a refugee in 1999 when the Taleban burned down his town.

 

Before the Taleban came we were farmers. They put pressure on us. We had no choice but to take up arms and defend our lives

 

I know, newnew, that you think anything negative against the Taliban is propaganda and that everything the Taliban says is the complete truth, but that is truly an extremely naive way of looking at this issue.

 

The Al-Qaeda and Taliban have both denied responsiblity for the indicriminate murder of women and children which they are accused of.

 

They have also admitted it (although you claim every single tape of Al Qaeda is fake, except for the single one in which they claim they are innocent).

 

The fact that American troops have done such acts does not mean that the Taliban have not done so. Your logic has more holes in it than a pound of swiss cheese. Or is your argument that because the US soldiers have commited such acts it is not a big deal when a Muslim group does it?

 

Or is it only to be condemned when non-Muslims do it?

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Bismillahirrahmaanerraheem

 

The fact that there is clear contradiction between different al-qaeda messages proves that they are being set up. And why would anyone set them up, unless they themselves are the ones who are responsible for the crimes

 

Peace unto those who follow the Guidance

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There has been contradiction in the US's message at times too. According to your logic that means they are being set up too.

 

The subject, though, is the Taliban. You repeatedly state what you say are facts which are then refuted. Do you still believe the Taliban to have been a truly Islamic state?

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There has been contradiction in the US's message at times too. According to your logic that means they are being set up too.

It's a totally different kind of contradiction. You gotta have a very low IQ not to understand the difference...

If Bush one day comes and says "Our Government was responsible for 9/11" and then the next day he says "Our Government was not responsible for 9/11, but al-Qaeda was" and then the day after that says again "our government was responsible for 9/11" wouldnt that be just insane?

Ofcourse, if Bush does that he is the President of the United States and his messages are not suppressed. But when a "terrorist" or resistance leader (whatever you call them) makes such strange contradictions, and you Know that his messages do not always reach us, doesnt that prove that he is being set up?

 

 

The subject, though, is the Taliban. You repeatedly state what you say are facts which are then refuted.

 

Refuted? You mean by UN and some newspapers? You think just because they may say something against their enemies it makes it true? This is while many years ago, Henry Ford wrote that almost all American news agencies (as well as many in other countries) were controled, directly or indirectly by Jewish businessmen.

 

 

Do you still believe the Taliban to have been a truly Islamic state?

Why should I not?

 

Peace unto those who follow the Guidance

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You cannot prove that the Taliban murdered children

 

What a smameful lie. Totally False

 

Source: Human Rights News (hrw(contact admin if its a beneficial link)):

 

(New York, February 19, 2001)-Human Rights Watch today released fresh eyewitness accounts of a massacre of hundreds of civilians by Taliban forces in Afghanistan last month. Human Rights Watch urged the United Nations to step up efforts to investigate the massacre, citing previous failures by the U.N. to hold Afghanistan's warring parties accountable for grave abuses. It was critical, Human Rights Watch said, that the investigation be conducted by a small, expert team as quickly as possible, before crucial evidence disappears.

 

The new report, "Massacres of Hazaras in Afghanistan," gives detailed accounts of the January 2001 massacre in the central highlands of Afghanistan as well as new evidence related to an earlier massacre in May 2000. In both cases, the victims were primarily Hazaras, a Shia Muslim ethnic group that has been the target of previous abuses by Taliban forces. Afghan humanitarian aid workers were among those killed.

 

Afghanistan: The Massacre in Mazar-i Sharif

On August 8, 1998, Taliban militia forces captured the city of Mazar-i Sharif in northwest Afghanistan, the only major city controlled by the United Front, the coalition of forces opposed to the Taliban. The fall of Mazar was part of a successful offensive that gave the Taliban control of almost every major city and important significant territory in northern and central Afghanistan. Within the first few hours of seizing control of the city, Taliban troops killed scores of civilians in indiscriminate attacks, shooting noncombatants and suspected combatants alike in residential areas, city street sand markets. Witnesses described it as a "killing frenzy" as the advancing forces shot at "anything that moved." Retreating opposition forces may also have engaged in indiscriminate shooting as they fled the city. Human Rights Watch believes that at least hundreds of civilians were among those killed as the panicked population of Mazar-i Sharif tried to evade the gunfire or escape the city.

November 1, 1998 - Report

 

OOPS, sorry newnew. But dont worry, im sure these massacres were nothing but western propaganda to stain the image of the taleban. Remember....you will always have your dreams. Who needs facts when you have such a colourful imagination ?

 

Peace

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Bismillahirrahmaanerraheem

 

Witnesses described it as a "killing frenzy" as the advancing forces shot at "anything that moved

Who were these witnesses, just "witneses"...

And Im guessing these "witnesses" were statues since the Taliban supposedly killed "anything that moved" in that area :D

 

Next time, show me a human witness.

 

Peace unto those who follow the Guidance

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