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Beirut blitz sparks war fears

From: Agence France-Presse by Nayla Razzouk in Beirut

July 16, 2006

 

Intense ... smoke rises near a hospital in Beirut's south / AFP israel has intensified its relentless bombardment of Lebanon overnight, destroying the Beirut headquarters of the Hezbollah leader and pounding the country's ports as fears mounted the conflict could spiral into regional war.

 

Eighteen civilians, including children, were burnt alive when a helicopter gunship hit a convoy of families fleeing an offensive that has left the country almost cut off from the outside world and waking up each day to new scenes of devastation.

The offensive was extended to bombing the lighthouse, radar installations and grain silos at the port in Beirut, in the first attack by israeli forces so close to the heart of the centre of the Lebanese capital.

 

With missiles also slamming into no-man's land between Lebanon and Syria, Russia warned that there was a "real threat" that the fiercest conflict between the two neighbours in a decade could engulf other nations.

 

"There is a real threat of the involvement of other states in this conflict," Russian Defence Minister Sergei Ivanov said ahead of a G8 summit of world leaders in Saint Petersburg likely to be dominated by crisis.

 

In an emotional televised address to the nation, Lebanese Prime Minister Fuad Siniora called for an immediate ceasefire and the end to the "collective punishment" of his country.

 

 

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Splits have emerged within the international community, with some UN Security Council members rebuking israel for "disproportionate" use of force but the United States insisting the Shiite Muslim militia Hezbollah stop its attacks.

 

The crisis also prompted Arab League chief Amr Mussa to declare the Middle East peace process as "dead" after an emergency meeting of Arab foreign ministers over the israeli offensives against Lebanon and Gaza.

 

The death toll mounted further overnight, with at least 100 now killed on both sides since the conflict erupted following the capture of two israeli soldiers in a Hezbollah raid on Wednesday.

 

Eighteen civilians, including nine children, were burnt alive when missiles from an israeli helicopter gunship slammed into a convoy of residents fleeing border villages in south Lebanon, UN and hospital sources said.

 

"It is very difficult to identify the bodies or to distinguish between girls or boys, as the 18 victims perished from the fire triggered by incendiary shells. They grilled," Ali Zeineddine, the doctor who examined the bodies said.

 

The israeli military expressed regret over the civilian casualties but said it targeted an area used as a missile launch ground by Hezbollah who must take responsibility for "endangering the civilian population."

 

Another seven civilians were killed in other raids against bridges and petrol stations in eastern and southern Lebanon, including a strike that blocked the main border crossing into Syria, bringing the toll in Lebanon to at least 88.

 

War planes struck again at the headquarters of Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah in Beirut's southern suburbs, destroying the nine-storey building and causing panic in surrounding streets.

 

It was not clear whether Mr Nasrallah, who declared "open war" on israel after a similar attack on his headquarters and home on Friday, was in the building at the time.

 

"We will wipe him out at the first opportunity. That's why he had better pray to Allah," israeli cabinet minister Zeev Boim warned.

 

israeli helicopters also fired two missiles at the port in the mainly Christian city of Juineh and in Tripoli while a Lebanese soldier was killed and nine others wounded in a strike on their position in the coastal city of Batroun.

 

The military said it attacked the Beirut headquarters of Hamas, the first time the Palestinian militant group has been targeted in this offensive.

 

The four days of raids have left near-apocalyptic scenes of power stations burning, black smoke billowing from the paralysed airport, roads riddled with craters and collapsed bridges.

 

In another unprecedented action, an israeli fighter bomber fired four missiles about 200m beyond Masnaa, the main crossing point between Lebanon and Syria, Lebanese police said.

 

However Damascus denied its territory had been hit and israel's head of military operations General Gadi Azincot said later that Syria was "not an objective of our operation."

 

As a fresh barrage of guerrilla rockets rained on northern israel, including for the first time the Galilee town of Tiberias, israel warned that Hezbollah could strike as far as the commercial capital Tel Aviv.

 

Four israelis have been killed and scores wounded, sending tens of thousands of residents into bomb shelters or fortified rooms.

 

And the military said it had deployed a battery of anti-missile Patriot missiles in its third largest city of Haifa, which was hit by a Hezbollah rocket attack on Thursday.

 

israel recovered the body of one of four sailors missing after what it said was an attack by an Iranian-made rocket on a ship patrolling off Lebanon on Friday, bringing to nine the number of servicemen killed since Wednesday. Iran denied any involvement.

 

israel's onslaught was unleashed after Hezbollah guerrillas snatched two soldiers Wednesday, opening up a new battleground following a similar deadly offensive against Gaza over the capture of another soldier by Palestinian militants three weeks ago.

 

Lebanon remained virtually cut off from the outside world after israel imposed an air and sea blockade, launched repeated strikes on its only international airport and bombed the main highway to Syria.

 

As foreign governments sought to evacuate stranded nationals, Beirut residents were stocking up on basic goods and making plans to flee to the relative safety of the mountains outside the capital.

 

Lebanon failed at an emergency UN Security Council debate on Friday to secure a ceasefire to halt israel's offensive, with the United States standing firmly behind its ally israel.

 

"The best way to stop the violence is for Hezbollah to lay down its arms, to stop attacking" israel, US President George W. Bush said, while adding that Syria must "exert influence" on Hezbollah.

 

But Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey, a key US ally and israel's main Muslim ally, did not mince words criticising the israeli offensive and the reaction of the international community.

 

"Bombs are exploding, innocent people are being killed, infrastructures are being destroyed... The powerful continue to crush the weak, but unfortunately those who hold the power in the world are keeping mum."

 

Lebanon has been mired in its own political crisis since the murder of ex-premier Rafiq Hariri in 2005 and is still rebuilding after the devastating 1975-1990 civil war.

 

israel also pressed on with its air assault on Gaza overnight, killing two Palestinians in helicopter strikes after the United States on Thursday vetoed a UN resolution calling on israel to halt its military operations there.

 

At least 78 Palestinians and one israeli soldier have been killed since israel launched its assault on Gaza, which the United Nations has warned is causing a humanitarian crisis in one of the most densely populated areas on earth.

 

Both Hezbollah and Palestinian militants holding the soldiers are demanding the release of prisoners from israeli jails, something israel has rejected outright.

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Eighteen civilians, including nine children, were burnt alive when missiles from an israeli helicopter gunship slammed into a convoy of residents fleeing border villages in south Lebanon, UN and hospital sources said.

 

Assalam ALaikum

 

May there souls rest in peace.. Ameen

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saalam.

 

this was posted in another web site as a reply to the same topic. it is something i didnt know.

 

 

What is obviously not mentioned is that they tried to get into a UN camp but were turned back and told to bugger off. The UN does not want a repeat of what occured in 1996 (israel attacking a UN refugee camp in Lebanon killing 100 civilians and 3 Filipino soldiers with White Phosphorous). That attack forced israel to end its offensive.

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:D dear muslims

 

The Media will proborbally Spin it making israel defendinf to save its self.

 

Like all other reports, "israeli Retaliates/replies/fights back against Vcious terrorist fighting......"

 

Seems they think Arabs are expendible

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ASalaamalikum...

 

how can the israelis (animals) justify asking innocent Muslims out of thier home and then bombing them, subhanallah, this exactly what they did yesterday . Where are the Muslims rulers who should be racing to help a part of the ummah which is in pain. How can they stand back and watch silently as the ummah is bleeding, watch part of that body ache. I don't understand.

 

Waliksumsalaam

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Hizbullah have responded and attaked Haifa - giving israel a taste of its own medicine. Apparently 9 people killed so far.

 

Watch the Zionazi's cry over this while they continue to bomb other women and children.

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Hizbullah have responded and attaked Haifa - giving israel a taste of its own medicine. Apparently 9 people killed so far.

 

Watch the Zionazi's cry over this while they continue to bomb other women and children.

 

 

Yea , I'll bet this is your kinda fight barayev . Yea lets watch those zionists cry , maybe we oughta barbeque some of'em . Yea that'll learn'em huh ?

 

Well it looks like both sides are 'tasting each others medicine' eh ?

 

But don't worry Hezbollah will fight to the last drop of Lebanese blood , whilst hiding amongst women and children ......rah ,rah , Hezbollah !!

 

C'mon lets get this cheering section moving .

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:D dear muslims.

 

Er.. Makko.

 

Was it not the israeli army who targeted the airport and caused a blockade even by SEA?

 

Makko, israelis Wont mind killing them, i can evren give you evidence showing IDF forces beating up little kids, yes thats right little kids, and even Women !

 

But of course, your paranoia and denial symtoms should brush that off quite easilt aint it :D

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:D dear muslims

 

The Media will proborbally Spin it making israel defendinf to save its self.

 

Like all other reports, "israeli Retaliates/replies/fights back against Vcious terrorist fighting......"

 

Seems they think Arabs are expendible

 

 

Well Crystal ....WHO started it ? Who invaded a border and attacked a military position , kidnapping soldiers ? In Fact WHO has been lobbing rockets into israel for the past FIVE years ?

 

And WHOSE only purpose for being in Lebanon to begin with , is to act as a militant "unofficial military wing " of Iran ? With the expressed purpose of instigating attacks on israel from within Lebanon's Sovereignty.

 

So Lebanon will do Syria and Iran's bidding whether it wants to or not

 

But hey , most of you consider the israelis "animals " anyway , just as the previous poster specified , so what the heck ......animals have no right to strike back right ?

 

 

No , no , it seems that YOU think that "arabs are expendable " as you waste their lives to satify the unrequetted hatred of israel .

 

Well look where it got you now . And it's gonna get worse ....alot worse .

 

As Shakespeare said " Cry havoc , and let loose the dogs of war " .

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Asalaamalikum

 

Makko

 

"When Hamas were elected back the end of January, israel and the United States at once announced that they were going to punish the people of Palestine for voting the wrong way in a free election. In my view, the inciting event in the present case, events, are those that I mentioned -- the constant intense repression; plenty of abductions; plenty of atrocities in Gaza; the steady takeover of the West Bank, which, in effect, if it continues, is just the murder of a nation, the end of Palestine; the abduction on June 24 of the two Gaza civilians; and then the reaction to the abduction of Corporal Shalit. And there's a difference, incidentally, between abduction of civilians and abduction of soldiers. Even international humanitarian law makes that distinction.". (NOAM CHOMSKY)

 

israel has shown how ruthless it is, as for the rocket attacks well they were fired after the heavy israeli attacks against Lebanon, which killed many people.

 

How can this 'infection' called 'israel' justify a bridge being a terrorist target, a pertrol station being a terrorist target, o a convoy of people who were advised to leave lebanon by the isrealis, again a terrorist target, lets no forget the airport as a terrorist target or the runnways, or the sea ports. Is this not enough to prove to you how perversed israel is.

 

What right has israel got to economically strangulate a country, israel has a mission to rob more Muslim land, they want to occupy Muslim land. The muslims will inshallah do everything in their power to prevent this from happening.

 

Lets not forget israel is using bombs made in America, so that also makes America responsible for the attacks in Lebanon. So even if the Hezbollah are using rockets or missiles made by Syria or Iran SO WHAT! Besides anything isreal say's while it’s committing acts of terrorism is open to question anyway.

 

wasalaam

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Well Crystal ....WHO started it ? Who invaded a border and attacked a military position , kidnapping soldiers ? In Fact WHO has been lobbing rockets into israel for the past FIVE years ?

 

And WHOSE only purpose for being in Lebanon to begin with , is to act as a militant "unofficial military wing " of Iran ? With the expressed purpose of instigating attacks on israel from within Lebanon's Sovereignty.

 

So Lebanon will do Syria and Iran's bidding whether it wants to or not

 

But hey , most of you consider the israelis "animals " anyway , just as the previous poster specified , so what the heck ......animals have no right to strike back right ?

No , no , it seems that YOU think that "arabs are expendable " as you waste their lives to satify the unrequetted hatred of israel .

 

Well look where it got you now . And it's gonna get worse ....alot worse .

 

As Shakespeare said " Cry havoc , and let loose the dogs of war " .

 

 

So becuse Hezbolla started the fighting, it is ok to bomb busses full to woman and children?

By that logic, if I ever get into a fight with some one, that will also give the right to rob a store, which had nothing to do with my dispute with the other person, just because the other person started the fight..

 

as for this secret Irani connection, I want proof.

Until you can prove to me some how that Iran is involved, what you are saying is just a hack conspiricy theory.

Isreal would like to associate Iran with what is going on right now in Lebanon, that is why they are pushing soo hard with this retoric of Iranian involvement, but they have provided no evidence so it is just speculation.

 

And even if Iran is backing Hezbollah big deal.

USA is backing Ireal, but no one is complaining about that.

So if you want to condem Iran for giving Hezbollah wepons, you also gotta condem USA for giving Iseal weapons.

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Peace

 

I'm so tired of everyone respecting international law except israel. Due to the U.S.'s Veto Power they feel invincible and above the law.

 

May God have mercy on all the Lebanese people killed wether they are christians or muslims or whatever.

 

Peace

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Peace

 

I'm so tired of everyone respecting international law except israel. Due to the U.S.'s Veto Power they feel invincible and above the law.

 

 

WHAT ? "everyone respecting international law except Isrtael ".

 

And I thought you could think for yourself Anthony , sorry , an overestimation on my part ....a mistake .

 

Tell me Anthony , who is observing international law here .?...please be explicit , because I really don't see ANYONE OBSERVING INTERNATIONAL LAW , FROM HAMAS TO HEZBOLLAH TO THE PALESTINIANS THEMSELVES .

 

 

That remark you make is bigoted , to say the least .

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Peace.

 

I was speaking of israel as the #1 nation that flagrantly defies international law in front of the whole world. I was talking about countries, not terrorist organisations like Hezbollah.

 

And I thought you could think for yourself Anthony , sorry , an overestimation on my part ....a mistake .

 

This coming from a man who justifies israel's current onslaught which has killed 104 humans so far, all but 4 of them civillians and recently incinnerated 20 people, 15 of them children while they were attempting to flee israeli bombardments in Lebannon. In case you did not notice, israel is in breach of international law by bombing infrastructure and killing civillians. israel has no fear because USA veto-es every U.N. resolution condemning their actions.

 

Peace

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Can someone please explain how israel should be dealing with terrorists like Hezbollah and Hamas. It is all very well to complain that innocents die caught in the crossfire of the war between israel and these terrorists without proposing a better way for israel to combat those who wish to destroy and kill her citizens...

 

Groups like Hezbollah are operating within and with the help of israel's neighbours. They fire rockets into israel and try to kill israelis. I know you may think that this is trivial compared to the israeli retaliation, however imagine a rocket landing in your hometown. Would you not expect your government to act, and act decisively and forcefully to end this at all costs!

 

Please try to say something new that we haven't heard before. Please try to imagine what it is like to be an ordinary israeli. You seem to ask us to understand the plight of the arabs but can you imagine how you would react if foreign groups wanted to destroy you and the countries where they worked actually supported them instead of condemning and arresting them.

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Can someone please explain how israel should be dealing with terrorists like Hezbollah and Hamas. It is all very well to complain that innocents die caught in the crossfire of the war between israel and these terrorists without proposing a better way for israel to combat those who wish to destroy and kill her citizens...

 

Groups like Hezbollah are operating within and with the help of israel's neighbours. They fire rockets into israel and try to kill israelis. I know you may think that this is trivial compared to the israeli retaliation, however imagine a rocket landing in your hometown. Would you not expect your government to act, and act decisively and forcefully to end this at all costs!

 

Please try to say something new that we haven't heard before. Please try to imagine what it is like to be an ordinary israeli. You seem to ask us to understand the plight of the arabs but can you imagine how you would react if foreign groups wanted to destroy you and the countries where they worked actually supported them instead of condemning and arresting them.

 

To answer your first question, israel should not go in and bomb apartment buildings, incinnerate buses full of refugees or terrorise entire populations like they are doing in Lebanon. They should go after the Hezbollah militia, not after civillians. Groups like hezbollah are getting support from arabs for one simple reason. They are seemingly the only ones who dare defy the israeli military might, which has terrorised the neighbouring arabs for decades.

 

Ok you want me to say something new that hasn't been said before? Ok here goes:

 

israel is currently located on stolen land. Land that has been forcefully taken from the local inhabitants by methods of terrorism and sometimes even genocide. This is the biggest reason for the current instability in that part of the world. The israelis have stolen the land and now they're angry that the arabs want it back. I am not condoning the terrorism from groups like Hezbollah, I don't agree with their methods, but I understand why they do what they do. The arabs are hummiliated by the fact they have not been able to regain their land for such a long time and now they are resorting to the same kind of brutality israel has been dishing out for decades.

 

Peace

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The only land you can claim was stolen were gains made in 1967. In 1948 the arabs were unwilling to allow even the tiniest state for the jews who lived in Palestine...

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saalam.

 

this was posted in another web site as a reply to the same topic. it is something i didnt know.

:D/Peace To All

 

The infamous "Grapes of Wrath."

 

The United Nothing is good at turning away people fleeing war zones, and not protecting Safe Havens!

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Source: Wikipedia

 

After the United Nations partitioned the territory of the British Mandate of Palestine into two states, Jewish and Arab, the Arabs refused to accept it

 

I would have done the same thing the arabs did. Would you accept your country being divided by some foreign superpower?

 

Peace

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Historically, the land of Palestine was populated by a people known as the Palestinians. Palestinians have always been religiously diverse, with the Muslim majority maintaining friendly relations with their Christian, Jewish, and Druze brethren.

 

At the turn of the 20th Century, a new Jewish nationalist ideology called Zionism was developing. Zionism called for the creation of a Jewish homeland in Palestine.

 

During this time, increasing numbers of Jewish Europeans immigrated to Palestine, causing the Jewish population to grow from a tiny minority to 35% of the population.

In 1947, the United Nations partitioned Historic Palestine, giving 55% to the Jewish population and 45% to the Palestinian population. The indigenous Palestinians rejected the division of the land on which they had lived and farmed for centuries.

 

At the time of partition, the Jewish population owned less than 6% of Palestine.

 

In 1948, israel declared its “independence” on 78% of Palestine, having stolen an additional 23% of Palestine since partition.

Between the time of partition and the declaration of israel on 78% of historic Palestine in 1948, the newly formed Jewish state had depopulated (through massacres, expulsion orders, and fear tactics) over 400 villages and made refugees of at least 726,000 Palestinians (see U.N.).

 

As Moshe Dayan put it, “Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist, not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either.”

 

In 1967, israel occupied the remaining 22% of historic Palestine: the West Bank and Gaza (as well as large sections of Syria and Egypt). Since then israel has transferred many of its citizens to Jewish “settlements,” (colonies, which are illegal according to the fourth Geneva Convention). Today 40% of the West Bank is off-limits to Palestinians, as they are not allowed to live in israeli settlements, drive on Jewish-only roads connecting these settlements, or even live or travel through “security zones,” surrounding the settlements.

 

Is this what you call fair Liberte?

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The only land you can claim was stolen were gains made in 1967. In 1948 the arabs were unwilling to allow even the tiniest state for the jews who lived in Palestine...

 

 

 

Liberte , you asked for a rational explanation , and you got RHETORIC and PROPAGANDA......were you expecting something else ???

 

 

C'mon , this stuff has been pounded and seared into the psyche , it's a way of life man , you aint gonna reason with it ....it's too far gone .

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and here's israeli "freedom":

 

Following the 1967 war, israel created what it calls “Greater Jerusalem.†It did this by expanding the borders of East Jerusalem to include surrounding areas of the West Bank where the Palestinian population was minimal. It annexed this new “Jerusalem,†and declared it to be it’s capitol.

 

Since 1967, israel has established numerous illegal settlements in this “Greater Jerusalem,†thereby ensuring a Jewish majority in the city. While the municipal government encourages the construction of new Jewish homes in the city, Palestinian families (many of whom have lived in Jerusalem for centuries) are rarely able to acquire the permits necessary to build new homes and are only allowed to live in certain areas of the city due to systematic discrimination against non-Jewish citizens.

Following the 1967 war, israel began establishing numerous settlements, or illegal housing developments for Jewish israelis only on stolen Palestinian land (colonies). There are now thousands of these settlements throughout the West Bank and Gaza, as well as numerous settlements in the Syrian Golan Heights.

 

Settlements are one of the major blockages to a peaceful and just resolution to israel’s conflict with the Palestinians and other Arabs. The "roadmap" to peace calls on israel to dismantle these settlements and to return the land to the rightful owners. Unfortunately, israel continues to expand existing settlements and to build new ones.

 

israeli settlers, who are known for their Jewish fundamentalism and desire to take the rest of Palestine (and perhaps even parts of other Arab lands) for israel, usually carry large guns. They travel on specially built “bypass roads,†that now crisscross the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Palestinians are not allowed to use these roads.

 

Aint Life great.

 

peace

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I would have done the same thing the arabs did. Would you accept your country being divided by some foreign superpower?

 

Peace

 

Well who said that it was all Arab land. There were many jews living there who wanted their own state just as much as the Palestinians. Don't try to use the historical argument because we all know that one doesn't work.

 

You may suggest that the partition was poorly made as the israeli state was comprised of Arabs and Jews, but who is to say that such a state wouldn't have worked. If the arab states had been reasonable and at least participated to make a smaller jewish state then perhaps we wouldn't be in this mess...

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Well who said that it was all Arab land. There were many jews living there who wanted their own state just as much as the Palestinians. Don't try to use the historical argument because we all know that one doesn't work.

 

You may suggest that the partition was poorly made as the israeli state was comprised of Arabs and Jews, but who is to say that such a state wouldn't have worked. If the arab states had been reasonable and at least participated to make a smaller jewish state then perhaps we wouldn't be in this mess...

 

Well my opinion is that the partition plan based on ethnicity would never have worked anyways. If you know about palestine's history you would know that the majority arab(muslim) population lived in harmony with jewish and christian minorities. Then the U.N. came and messed things up by trying to divide land between "jewish" and "arab" . I am asking you again....if a foreign power would try to partition your land, not considering the wishes of the majority population (arab in this particular case) wouldn't you be mad?

 

Peace.

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saalam.

 

either way, israelis are either the landlords, or tennnants, from hell.......

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