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Regarding Permissibility of Music

 

Q: I would like to know if music is really haraam in Islam. Someone told me that all four madhabs say it is illegal to listen to music. Is that really true? If music is permissible according to Islam is there any way I can prove it quickly according to the four madhabs?

 

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Bismillah ir-Rahman ir-Raheem, was-salaat was-salaam `ala sayyidina Muhammadin wa `ala aalihi wa saahbihi ajma`een

 

Here is a relatively strict interpretation of what is and is not permitted from music/sama . We will provide you other more lenient views later if you desire:

 

Qadi Abu Tayyib said:

 

To hear sama from such a woman who can be married is not lawful according to the disciples of Imam Shafi`i who said that it is makruh (disliked) to ring musical instruments by means of a stick and that it was used in order to divert the attention of the people (from remembrance of Allah). Imam Malik prohibited songs. This is in accordance with the hadith of the Prophet (saw) mentioning girls known as Qainaat who would sing among the drunkards. Imam Abu Hanifah said that sama is makruh (disliked) and to hear songs is sinful. Hazrat Sufiyan Thawri, Hammad, Ibrahim Shu`bi and other learned men of Kufa from among the Salaf (first three generations after the Prophet (s)) gave similar opinions.

 

Abu Talib Makki after quoting the opinion of many learned men said that sama is lawful. He said that Hazrat Abdullah Muawiyah and other Companions of the Prophet (s) used to hear sama . He said that on fixed days of blessing, the Meccans used to hear sama . The Medinites also used to hear them. Insha-Allah the following is a clarification of the use of sama .

Imam Ghazzali's Conditions for Sama Being Commendable

 

We will cite five from the conditions which Imam Ghazzali cited for sama being commendable:

 

1. Songs of pilgrims. They roam from one country to another with songs and flutes. These songs are lawful, and they describe poetry relating to Ka’bah, the Black Stone, Zamzam and other signs of Allah. These arouse (desired) sentiments for visiting the Ka'bah and other holy places.

 

2. Songs of mourning. It is of two kinds, commendable and not commendable. It is not commendable to recite songs which increase sorrow for past mishaps and calamities. The Quran says: - "lest you do not grieve for what missed you," to express sorrow for the dead falls within this class of songs, as it expresses dissatisfaction at the order of God.

 

Mourning-songs are commendable when men express sorrow for past sins for this sin, Adam wept for forgiveness and Prophet David's songs were for forgiveness. Owing to his melodious songs, many people expired. This action is praiseworthy and to give encouragement for this is also praiseworthy.

 

3. Songs at the time of festivals. It increases joy and happiness at the time of festivals and other days of expressing happiness, for this happens at the time of two I'ds, marriage festivals, birth ceremony when a child is born and at the time of circumcision.

 

4. Songs of lovers. These increase love towards God and give satisfaction and pleasure to mind. It is also lawful. If the union with a strange girl or woman is unlawful, songs for her love is also unlawful.

 

5. Songs on the part of one who seeks the love and pleasure of God and to meet with Him, is lawful.

 

sama is Unlawful in Five Cases:

 

1. To hear sama from a woman whose look excites sexual desire. Beardless young men may also be included in this category if sexual desire is aroused at their sight. This illegality is not for songs but for women and beardless young men.

 

2. Instruments used for the songs of drunkards are unlawful as they remind of unlawful things and incite unlawful action of wine-drinking and intoxicants. These are majamir, awtar and kubah but not daf (drum), flute and other musical instruments.

 

3. Obscene talk in sama is unlawful. If there are any obscene talks in poetry, useless talk and inferences against God, His Prophet, upon whom be peace, and the companions, may Allah be pleased with them, they are unlawful. If there are descriptions of a particular woman and not of women in general, and narrations of the beauties of a particular woman before the people, they are unlawful.

 

4. If any evil or immoral desire arises in mind or by hearing songs, it will be unlawful.

 

5. If habits are formed for hearing sama , it is unlawful. Excess of any thing is bad. If too much food is taken it is bad for health. If too much oil is besmeared on the face, it looks ugly, similarly if too many sama songs are heard, it forms into a harmful habit. After strenuous effort and hard labor sama songs and innocent enjoyments are not harmful.

 

As can be seen there is a wide range of opinions, and as in everything related to the faith, "actions are by intentions."

 

Ismā`īl Dhul-Qarnayn

 

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There doesn't seem to be any conclusive proof from the Qur'an that 'music is haraam'. Music consists of sound/frequencies. You find examples of music and singing in animals and even mothers humming to their babies to lull them to sleep, it's quite natural. You don't need thousands upon thousands of backings from old scholars and doctors of religious law. We have been designed to be inherently aware of what is clearly right or wrong, so that we can be judged regardless of 'what our parents and communities followed'. Corruption in religion does not just come in the form of introduced evil practices, it can also come as man-made laws falesly attributed to God and in extremism (e.g. the Jews have made forbidden for themselves many things God did not forbid them). To think this form of corruption is non-existent in the Muslim world is deceived.

 

Am I supporting the sort of music found in Hollywood and Bollywood, coupled with semi-nude women dancing around selling themselves as mere sex items? No. Music is in itself neutral, like many other things in this world. Depending on how it is used, it can be positive or negative. Take our hands for example. At once neutral, but can be used to hand a few coins to the poor and needy or to strike a killing blow on a baby.

 

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how about this: when u r reading fard prayer (or any prayer) in Masjid and you hear a phone ring, your concentration goes towards that, in this case should you re-do your prayer or will it be valid?

 

without readin the whole thread i would add: music is definitely haraam, and is root of evil, songs like "romantic" or "gangster" only encourage bad behaviour. Naat type of music is ok as it encourages you to love your religion, you can also read Quran in a music sort of way *Tilawaat*.

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I found this and thought it was quite interesting:

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MUSIC:musick??

When a child that received radiotherapy for leukemia cackles/giggles months later, with life in her lungs and body; that is music. actual, true, soul touching, heart piercing, rejuvenating music…yes that is food for the soul…..when an old lady standing in a crowded bus us offered a seat by someone younger, that is music to the old lady’s soul and the ‘younger’s heart then beats the ‘thumps’ of rising self-esteem/jubiliation.

When generations of well-provided for humans spend time ‘reading/deciphering’ clatters of metal and beats of stretched dead skins over hollow surfaces/vibrations of stretched dead strings as ‘music’ then the reality is that the most intelligent of creation are wasting time, energy, sentiment and (brain/human) resources on letting their less fortunate brethren starve, or sink deeper into physical, social, spiritual sickness.

There is no ‘BUT’ after the universal law that the sun rises from the east…similarly there is no ‘BUT’ following the universal law that humanity has for ages/multitude of generations been lead astray by that inner enemy, that inertia to endeavor, that love for leisure, luxury, selfishness; causing each member of humanity’s family to imprison ‘self’ in that enemy-dictated fantasy of ‘enjoying/relaxing’ while the rest of the world goes to the dogs.

Whenever ‘joy’ or ‘serenity’ is defined contrary to the fact that it is achieved by effort, ‘life’ is compromised.

In simpler words; smooth sailing or effort-less-joy are sugar-coated synonyms for death/dead matter.

Over coming one’s selfishness, one’s love for relaxing, one’s lust for laying back, one’s greed for taking a break are the only tools that brought humanity whatever good it has ever witnessed, will ever witness….and the few that managed rising above those primate desires were named ‘heroes’ while the tragedy that billions died and continue to die as nobody s is attributable ONLY to such vicious environmental toxins as music.

The intelligence that goes into making metal clatter sound sweet to the ears ,could have been better used for creating a cure for the deaf/should have been better used.

Denial of these facts is ABSOLUTE, UNEQUIVOCAL IGNORANCE.

Any individual wasting mental faculties on reading into clatters of dead matter for deciphering ‘rhythm’, waiting/hoping for the next beat/ string’s vibe to add sense to the previous clatter/vibe of dead matter is not only cruel to self but the next door neighbor who could be wishing for a word of comfort/encouragement,/consultation or simply that music of silence that brightens the soul through a neighbor’s smile, or sharing yesterday’s bread soaked in sweetened milk and sprinkled with peanut/almond dust.

Music of dead musical instruments is by all means the worst tool of sloth.

The time/intelligence wasted at creating music from dead sounds and then selling the sickness by deputing yet more of intelligence, by millions of intelligent humans over the ages is ACTAULLY responsible for humanity’s inability to deal with the junk it has littered…and all the ailments that ‘refuse’ imparts.

Example:

Phrases like “white trash’/ ‘trailer trash’/ozone layer rupture/AIDS/global warming are all products of time, energy, intelligence, resources wasted on creating/deciphering rhythms in clatters of dead matter to shut off the screams and the wailing that have continuously arisen from other parts of humanity’s body.

Is there a anything more apathetic than millions wasting lives on dead sounds/music??

Can there be a bigger/darker blindfold clamped on humanity’s intelligence??

Does the devil/ satan / shaitaan need do more after it enslaves a human’s heart and soul to sounds of dead matter’s clatter??

PERFECTLY said by The Holy Prophet Muhammad “I have been sent to destroy all (dead matter) instruments of musicâ€.

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Music seems to be Permissible. and here is the proof from renowned scholars such as Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi

 

 

As a matter of fact, we know from the authentic traditions that the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, not only allowed music in the weddings but also listened to girls singing: While listening to girls singing on such an occasion, he interrupted them only once when they sang the following verse, “In our midst is a prophet who knows what will happen tomorrow”; whence, the Prophet, peace be upon him, told them, “Cut this sentence out, and continue singing what you have been singing earlier.” There is nothing in the sources to indicate that the above permission is limited to the occasion of wedding, as some people tend to think.

 

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here is the clarification for that in the light of fatwa issued by Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi: The whole issue of singing is controversial, whether it is with musical accompaniment or not. In the subject of musical instruments, scholars disagree on the matter. Some of them permit all sorts of singing, be it accompanied with musical instruments or not, and even consider it recommended. A second group of scholars permit singing only when is not accompanied with a musical instrument. A third group declare it to be prohibited whether it be accompanied with a musical instrument or not; they even consider it as a major sin. In supporting their view, they cite the hadith narrated by Imam Al-Bukhari on the authority of Abu Malik or Abu `Amir Al-Ash`ari (doubt from the sub-narrator) that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said, 'From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk (clothes), the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful.' Although this hadith is in Sahih Al-Bukhari, its chain of transmission is not connected to Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) and this invalidates its authenticity. Ibn Hazm rejects it for that very reason. Moreover, the sub-narrator, Hisham Ibn `Ammar is declared ‘weak’ by many scholars of the Science of Hadith Methodology.

 

 

In his book, Al-Ahkam, Al-Qadi Abu Bakr Ibn Al-`Arabi says, “None of the hadiths maintaining that singing is prohibited are considered authentic (by the scholars of the Science of Hadith Methodology).” The same view is maintained by Al-Ghazali and Ibn An-Nahwi in Al-`Umdah. Ibn Tahir says, “Not even a single letter from all these Hadiths was proved to be authentic.”

 

Ibn Hazm says, “All the hadiths narrated in this respect were invented and falsified.”

 

Proofs of Those Who Maintain that Singing is Halal:

 

First: The Textual Proofs:

 

They base their argument on some authentic hadiths of Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him). One of these hadiths is the following:

 

`A'ishah (may Allah be pleased with her) narrated: “Allah’s Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him, came to my house while two girls were singing beside me the songs of Bu`ath (a story about the pre-Islamic war between the two tribes of the Ansar, the Khazraj and the Awus). The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) laid down and turned his face to the other side. Then Abu Bakr came and spoke to me harshly saying, ‘Musical instruments of Satan near the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him)?’ Thereupon, Allah’s Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) turned his face towards him and said, ‘Leave them.’ When Abu Bakr became inattentive, I signaled to those girls to go out and they left.” (Reported by Al-Bukhari)

 

This indicates that these two girls were not so young as claimed by some scholars. If they were, Abu Bakr would not have been angry with them in such manner. In addition, in this hadith, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) wanted to teach the Jews that Islam has room for merriment and that he himself was sent with a moderate and flexible legislation. There is also another important lesson to learn here. It draws our attention to the fact that one needs to introduce Islam to others in a good fashion, along with displaying its moderateness and magnanimity.

 

Thus, Islam left nothing good or sound but declared it to be halal (lawful). This is a sign of mercy to this Ummah (nation or community), moving along the line of its comprehensive and eternal message. Allah Almighty says, “They ask you (O Muhammad) what is made lawful for them. Say: (all) good things are made lawful for you.” (Al-Ma’idah: 4)

 

If we are to delve deeply into this matter, we will find that love for singing and melodic voices are almost a human instinct. We can observe an infant lying in his cradle soothed and sleeping by the sound of a lullaby. Mothers and nannies are always in the habit of singing for babies and children. Moreover, birds and animals respond to nice voices and rhythmic melodies.

 

Moreover, if singing is to be considered rejoicing and play, these are not haram; this is in pursuant to the famous idea that man needs some time to relax a bit and rejoice. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said to Hanzalah who thought himself to be a hypocrite for his attendance to his wife and children and the change that affected him when he was apart from Allah’s Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), “O Hanzalah! Part of your time should be devoted (to the worldly affairs) and part of time (should be devoted to prayer and meditation).” (Reported by Muslim)

 

`Ali Ibn Abu Talib says, “Amuse yourselves for some time, for if hearts are exposed to too much strain, they turn blind.”

 

Abu Ad-Darda’ said, “I refresh myself with some amusement in order to make myself stronger on the path of right.”

 

Imam Al-Ghazali answered someone who asked him: “Isn't singing some kind of play and rejoice?” He said, “Yes. But, all that exists in this present life is mere play and rejoice. All that takes place between a husband and his wife is play, except sexual intercourse that is the direct cause of reproducing children. This has been reported from Allah’s Messenger and his honorable Companions.”

One who is familiar with and experienced in the nature of the human heart and self knows for certain that recreation and relaxation are necessary treatments for one’s well-being.

 

These proofs on the permissibility of singing are extracted from the texts and rules of Islam, and these are sufficient to clarify the issue.

 

In addition to this, the people of Madinah, who were very pious and God-fearing, the Zahiriyyah, who were very literal regarding the textual proofs, and the Sufis, who were very strict and rigid, were all quoted to have declared the permissibility of singing.

Ar-Ruwaiyani narrates on the authority of Al-Qaffal that Malik Ibn Anas maintained that singing with musical instruments is permissible. Also, Abu Mansur Al-Furani quotes Malik as maintaining that playing the flute is permissible.

 

Abu Al-Fadl Ibn Tahir narrates, “The people of Madinah never disputed over the permissibility of playing the lute.”

 

Ibn An-Nahwi narrates in his “Al-`Umdah”: “Ibn Tahir said, ‘The people of Madinah showed consensus over this (issue). Also, all the Zahiriyyah maintained the same.'”

 

Conditions and Terms:

 

There are some conditions and terms that should be observed regarding listening to singing, as follows:

 

1. Not all sorts of singing are permissible. Rather, the permissible song should comply with the Islamic teachings and ethics. Therefore, the songs praising the tyrants and corrupt rulers disagree with Islamic teachings. In fact, Islam stands against transgressors and their allies, and those who show indifference to their transgression. So, the same goes for those songs that imply giving praises to such attitude!

 

2. Also, the way the song is performed weighs so much. The theme of the song may be good, but the performance of the singer – through intending excitement and arousing others’ lusts and desires along with trying to seduce them – may move it to the area of prohibition, suspicion or even detest. The Glorious Qur’an addresses the wives of Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) saying, “O you wives of the Prophet! You are not like any other women. If you keep your duty (to Allah), then be not soft of speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease aspire (to you), but utter customary speech." (Al-Ahzab: 32) So, one has to show caution to music when there is softness of speech accompanied with rhyme, melody, and special effects!

 

3. Singing should not be accompanied with something that is prohibited such as alcohol, nakedness, mixing of men with women that is common in pubs and nightclubs, etc.

 

4. Islam has declared excessiveness as prohibited in everything. The same goes for excessiveness in leisure and recreation even though these things are permissible ! This indicates that the emptiness of the mind and heart has to be observed and tackled during man’s short-term life. One should know that Allah Almighty will ask every one about his life and his youth in particular.

 

There are some things in which one is to be his own judge and Mufti. If there is some kind of singing that arouses his own lust or desire, and takes him away from the real life, he should avoid it then and block that very gate from which the winds of trial and seduction may come and erase his religion, morals and heart. If he does this, he will live in peace and tranquility.

 

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i was wondering if music was haram to listen to. i know this is a rather heavily discussed topic, but i remember getting mixed answers, and would like evidence also to make it clear. jazakAllah khair, brothers and sisters.

 

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Assalamu alaikum, this is a controversial issue and so I am moving it to the contraversial issues room, where the topic is discussed in detail. Assalamu alaikum, umAhmad.

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I can see that there has been alot of discussion on this topic. I have not researched much into it but I have decided myself that I will not listen to music anymore (So far it has been 1 day - Insha'Allah this will continue)

 

For a moment, let's not talk about what the Qur'an says and let's think for ourselves about music.

 

It is a fact that music does something to our brain / body (thoughts and feelings) If we are listening to depressing music, it may affect us and make us feel sad. If we are listening to fast energetic music, it may make us hyper. We do not have control over these feelings. How can something that we have no control over be good for us? I personally don't think it can and this is coming from someone (me) who spent an average of 10 hours a day listening to music. My point is, even if you put the Qur'an to aside and use your brain you will find out that music doesn't really do anything for us.

 

HOWEVER, I think that some music may be suitable. If you look at the song by Sami Yusuf - Hasbi; this song to me sounds fine. And it is sung by a Muslim.

 

This is my dilema - I am stopped listening to music. However, I want to find out what kind of music I can listen to (if any)

 

Also, I would like to say that maybe there is a reason why the Qur'an doesn't just state bluntly that music is forbidden. Maybe, being good Muslims we should know what is good for us and what is not. Surely listening to music from someone who is not a believer of Allah, or listening to someone who is feeding our brains with things that are against Islam is like listening to the Shaytaan himself.

 

These are my personal views

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salam,

 

The Qur'an after declaring a handful of things as Haraam, it states:

 

“And be mindful, never state any lies that comes up on your tongue unhesitatingly, that this thing is Halal and that Haraam so as to ascribe false things to Allah†- (16:116)

 

It is not a simple matter for men to declare something Haraam. It will tantamount to squeeze the freedom of humankind for all times, and that is why such authority is not given to anyone.

 

‘Say: who has forbidden the beautiful gifts of Allah, which he has produced for his servants and the things, clean and pure, (which he has provided) for sustenance? - (7:32)

 

But, there are the endless lists and piles of man-made books of religion declaring Haraam. They produce volumes of books commanding common people to do this and don’t do that. They restrict what is otherwise permissible and obstructs the path and makes life miserable. In their religious literature, music, art, photography, science, elegant and pleasant adornments, and their means and resources are all Haraam! Whereas Islam, bathed in the beauty of nature, teaches and educates as how to add and increase this beauty in the universe. As a result, the majority of them have become strictly converted into detesters of anything and everything worldly. To carry the argument further, aversion to the worldly things and enmity towards knowledge and wisdom resulted in the hatred of every element in the universe. Consequently, these people perceive evil and evil one in every corner of the universe. To them any thing of beauty becomes a thing of abhorrence and scorn. Every smiling face they meet with is a mirror of death, and every flower-strewn forehead, faggots and timber for the hell-fire.

 

wassalam

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I agree with you sister, well said :D

 

At this moment I have stopped listening to rock/metal music because of the message it has. Music is a powerful media and can take control over our emotions.

 

I personally think it is fine to listen to music produced by Muslims if the message it is giving is in line with Islam and I will continue to listen to music like this and I believe it is helping me. For me it is a source of spiritual uplifting, not only that but I get to listen to the beautiful languages :D But, who knows, maybe in the future I may feel I want to stop it all together.

 

Does anyone has the same view as me?

 

 

Mehmet

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My previous thread was closed even though it wasn't specifically about music so I am having to post it here.

 

Salaam Alaykum

 

I have spent some time researching and thinking about this issue. So far I have stopped listening to music for about a week or so. But I am not convinced that music is haram.

 

I can't understand how people argue that music is haram, and in doing that they quote from hadiths.. I personally am starting to wonder why we need hadiths. Is it not in the Qur'ans specification that the Qur'an is perfect, fully detailed, and that the only source of guidance we need? If I am wrong, please someone show me where it the Qur'an it states that we need further sources. And if you can find that, then you're saying that the Qur'an does not fulfill its specification.

 

It seems that many scholars when discussing music refer to hadiths rather then the Qur'an. Why refer to something that is not the word of God, and may not be authentic, when we know that the Qur'an IS authentic? I can't understand that. Sure the Qur'an may help us learn about how Muhammed lived his life, so we can learn about that. But truely, shouldn't all that we need to know be in the Qur'an?

 

Anyway, I would like people to give their opinions and if somoene can show me where exactly in the Qur'an it tells us that we may need other sources to learn about how to follow Islam (ie the hadiths) Or if anyone can show quote me a part in the Qur'an where it says music is not allowed - that would be great. A few people have said to me that people need hadiths to show us how to be good Muslims. My answer to that would be, did our prophet follow hadiths? Or did our Prophet follow the Qur'an.

 

"Say, "Who prohibited the nice things God has created for His creatures, and the good provisions?" Say," such provisions are to be enjoyed in THIS life by those who BELIEVE. Moreover, the good provisions will be exclusively theirs on the Day of resurrection." We thus explain the revelations for people who know." 7:32 (QURAN)

 

45:6] These are GOD's revelations that we recite to you truthfully. In which Hadith other than GOD and His revelations do they believe?

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Also, if you look at my previous posts, you can see how my opinion has been changing.

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Salam

 

The Qur'an protects the Prophet and the Sunnah of the Prophet protects the Qur'an and the Marfu Hadeeth protect the Sunnah of the Prophet salla Allahu alayhi wa sallam and the Sunnah of the Prophet protects Islam and Islam protects Qur'an and Qur'an protects Islam.

 

We need mufassireen to understand Qur'an. We need Muhadditheen to understand Hadeeth. We need scholars of Aqeedah to understand Aqeedah and we need scholar of linguistics to understand Arabic linguistics. We have scholars of fiqh to understand fiqh. We have fuqaha to know what is haram or makruh or mubah or mustahhab or wajib. Muhassireen understood Qur'an because they studied hadeeth.

 

To give up something for the sake of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala is always good.

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Why do we need the hadiths and sunnah. Instead why can we not study the Qur'an. How did the prophet practice Islam without hadith / sunnah? I don't understand, sorry.

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Why do we need the hadiths and sunnah. Instead why can we not study the Qur'an. How did the prophet practice Islam without hadith / sunnah? I don't understand, sorry.

 

Salam

 

The Prophet salla Allahu alayhi wa sallam did not follow the sunna because he IS the Sunnah, the Rolemodel and the Example. We imitate the prophet. Muhammad followed the sunnah of the Angel Jibreel alayhi salam. Whatever, the prophet did, say or approve is the sunna of the prophet which is the sunnah of the archangel Jibreel. Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala revealed to Jibreel and Jibreel conveyed it to Muhammad and Muhammad conveyed it unto his people.

 

The prophet saw the angel praying, so he followed the angel and the people followed the prophet.

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Please look at my thread here:

 

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Ok I can't seem to get the link to work properly..

 

Islamic Forum > Islamic Discussions > Basic Islamic Discussions

 

Title : Hadith / Sunnah

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Bro Righteous you may want to read this as well about the issue of music >> (www.)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_www.understanding-Islam(contact admin if its a beneficial link)/related/text.asp?type=question&qid=2897"]Authenticity of Ahadith About Music[/url]

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Ok. I have a really simple question.

 

I listen to music for entertainment - simple as that.

 

Is entertainment forbidden in Islam.. seems that it isn't

 

So, I have come to the conclusion that I will listen to music that I think is suitable because of the lack of evidence I see that tells me that music is haram and strictly forbidden.

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I can't understand how people argue that music is haram, and in doing that they quote from hadiths.. I personally am starting to wonder why we need hadiths. Is it not in the Qur'ans specification that the Qur'an is perfect, fully detailed, and that the only source of guidance we need? If I am wrong, please someone show me where it the Qur'an it states that we need further sources. And if you can find that, then you're saying that the Qur'an does not fulfill its specification.

 

Obey Allah, and obey the messenger, and beware (of evil): if ye do turn back, know ye that it is Our messenger's duty to proclaim (the message) in the clearest manner. [5:92]

 

Say: "obey Allah and His messenger.: But if they turn back, Allah loveth not those who reject Faith. [3:32]

 

And obey Allah and the messenger. that ye may obtain mercy. [3:132]

 

O ye who believe! obey Allah and His messenger, and turn not away from him when ye hear (him speak). [8:20]

 

 

Obeying the Messenger (SAW) = following his sunnah.

 

Simple =).

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Salaams peeps,

 

Imam an-Nawawi, the great Hadith and Shafi’i scholar states:

 

“It is unlawful to use or listen to musical instruments, such as, those which the drinkers are known for, like the mandolin, lute, cymbals, and flute. It is permissible to play the tambourine (daf) at weddings, circumcisions and other times, even if it has bells on its sides. Beating the Kuba, a long drum with a narrow middle, is also unlawful†(Mugni al-muhtaj, 4/429, & Reliance of the traveller, 775).

 

There are many other statements of the Fuqaha and scholars such al-Qurtubi, and each of the four Madhhabs, but due to the length of the article, I will suffice with the above.

 

As for those who hold music to be lawful usually present the Hadith of Sahih al-Bukhari in which two girls were singing in the presence of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) and Sayyida A’isha (Allah be pleased with her).

 

However, the permissibility of music can not be justified with this Hadith. The Hadith expert, Ibn Hajr al-Asqalani has refuted this claim in length in his Fath al-Bari, 2/345).

 

Firstly, theses young girls were singing without any unlawful musical instruments and secondly, the content of the song was regarding war, thus perfectly lawful. Also, they were not professional singers as the words of the Hadith clearly indicate.

 

Some try to justify music with the Hadith in which the permissibility of playing the tambourine (daf) is mentioned.

 

However, as stated in the works of the Fuqaha, to play the tambourine is permissible at weddings, as it is not designed for sole entertainment and pleasure, rather for announcement, etc…

sunnipath(contact admin if its a beneficial link)

 

 

So, I have come to the conclusion that I will listen to music that I think is suitable because of the lack of evidence I see that tells me that music is haram and strictly forbidden.

 

Bro although I completely respect your decision, scholars of the highest rank have declared music to be haram, such as Imam an-Nawawi. These men have a much deeper understanding of Islam compared to us or any contemporary scholar. They have not made a baseless claim and clearly have evidence to back it up. To then look for the evidence yourself and say 'well im not convinced its haram' is fine but you have to ask yourself, did all these great scholars get it wrong?

 

Like you bro, I also used to listen to alot of music until I became aware of the conflicting rulings. It confused me too. I also decided I was only going to listen to 'nasheeds' or songs by sami yusuf and the likes. But what I came to realise is when you listen to music it does not help you spiritually. The more music I listened to, the less effect the sound of the Qur'an being recited had on me. But when I stopped listening to music, the sound of qiraat had more and more effect on me. I didn't like the sound of anything else.

 

Yes doing fun and relaxing things is essential for the soul. But there are alternatives to music. There is also the issue of how you are getting hold of your music. If your downloading your mp3s then you may be falling into haram, as this could be stealing. If your buying music then keep in mind you will have to explain to Allah Most High on the Day of Judgement what you spent your wealth on.

 

Also the not evrything is black and white, there are certainly grey areas. It is better to stay clear of grey areas in case you fall into sin. And Allah Most High sees our good intentions and that which we sacrifice in this world for His pleasure will surely be recompensed in the Hereafter.

 

Peace

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:sl:

 

If one is finding it hard to quit listening to music, and in doubt about whether it's haraam or not, you could atleast start off by stop listening to music with impermissible lyrics - ie. love songs etc. That would eliminate a big chunk of everyone's music library.

 

May Allah swt make it easy.

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Hey,

First off I’d like to apologise in case I say something wrong here, I just wanted to see if anything I say can show u guys another angle of the argument.

 

I loved music. It was most favourite thing in the world, music, music, music…..

Then one day I learned from my cousin that it wasn’t allowed. I didn’t believe her, music was too nice to be bad, or so I thought.

 

In my life I had learned that Allah does not bring things to my attention unless they had some sort of significance. So the more I tried to disprove this, the more I proved that music is bad.

 

I also played the guitar, loved it. I cud not see anything wrong with it.

 

Turns out that there are so many bands out there preaching the message of the Jews, the freemasons, all through music. I might have a kid I play guitar with, we grow up, he persuades a music carrier but becomes a freemason. And so the message is indirectly spread. I know a number of bands that so cleverly so slyly (and you know only Iblese cud perform such an act) spread ‘their’ messages through their songs that I am amazed. And then there are all those night clubs where ppl are driven to do wat they do because of the music. And u might think, well im not gonna do that, but others might be influenced indirectly. I know a person on these forums who was born a muslim and at 20 sumthing he left Islam. It happens. May not happen to u, but not everyone is that strong etc. so indirectly , say if I teach sum one guitar and they go off and spread bad messages in their songs when they grow up, ultimately its my fault.

 

Wat about songs like that one that was very popular, “its getting hot in here, so take off all your clothes†and then a female voice says, “I am getting so hot, im gonna take my clothes offâ€. And surely there will be people in bars and night clubs or where ever that will do wat is said in the song. Further more, peoples opinions can change towards certain bands they like and they follow their ways etc.

 

To play an instrument is to wield a weapon of the devil, u help him and only him. However, I do like listening to instrumentals now and then, helps u get to sleep, sum music helps u stay from being drowsy while driving, but I think perhaps we shud leave it at that.. Im tryin to stop playing, im happy to announce that my appetite for music etc is dying.

 

Ok so that was my opinion, I’ll be interested in getting sum feed bak.

Ok

bye

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So why do you assume that all music teaches "bad messages" just because one of the hundreds of types of music does. That would be like not eating any food because pork is a type of food, or not drinking any liquids because alcohol is a liquid.

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So why do you assume that all music teaches "bad messages" just because one of the hundreds of types of music does. That would be like not eating any food because pork is a type of food, or not drinking any liquids because alcohol is a liquid.

 

Yes im curious as well. Books, poetry, tv, radio shows, opera, theatre, food, friends etc all contain the same 'evil' as music. So then are muslims to live in caves with nothing but their Qur'ans?:sl:

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