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Surprised noone has mentioned the {rather pathetic} attempted attacks on the UK.

It's my first post so apparently I can't post sources.

I doubt the UK needs intelligence agancies when muslim terrorists can't blow up a car laden with propane and petrol. LOL come on!!! That must be easier than breathing!!

I hope the one that needs treatment is in pain, and begs for help and does not receive it. Knowing the UK this muslim terrorist will receive all benefits. Still a bit stupid though, it's like trying to stop a car running on petrol. Idiots LOL!!!!!

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Peace and welcome to the Islamic Forum!

 

Please, NEVER, ever, say the term "Muslim terrorist". There is no such thing. You can say claimed-Muslim terrorist, but not Muslim terrorist, which is an oxymoron.

 

Islam is a religion of peace. Hang out here and you'll see what I mean.

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Peace and welcome to the Islamic Forum!

 

Please, NEVER, ever, say the term "Muslim terrorist". There is no such thing. You can say claimed-Muslim terrorist, but not Muslim terrorist, which is an oxymoron.

 

Islam is a religion of peace. Hang out here and you'll see what I mean.

 

 

Well at least muslims will never admit that . And I think you'll have a rather hard time convincing the Scots and Brits .

But I thinjk a greater imperative , may be to convince all the terroriosts "who claim to be muslims " that they are not .

 

 

THAT is the "oxymoron " .

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Peace,

 

Well at least muslims will never admit that . And I think you'll have a rather hard time convincing the Scots and Brits .

 

Actually no. The people who did this were lunatics, whether they were Asian, Muslim, Male, Tall, Short, Fat or any other label you care to put on them is not and should not be relevant. Such a huge majority of Muslims in the UK have condemned these bombings and would never carry them out themselves; that I consider it an insult to Muslims to have these lunatics called Muslims as if they share the same messed up ideology. The people who did this do not represent British Muslims or Islam. I think it's safe to say that British Muslims are more ashamed of their co-religionists actions right now than anyone else and these are the people who will be most likely to suffer a backlash from cretins like you who aren't capable of differentiating between people. You saunter in here Makko levelling some sort of guilt at ordinary Muslims as if they have something they should feel guilty about. Ordinary Muslims have as much to do with these attacks as you or I - i.e. Sod all.

 

Unlike you I do not hope that the guy in hospital dies or that any harm comes to him or particularly his family if they live in the UK. To do what he did he must have a pretty messed up background and I hope that he comes back to health so he can know he didn't kill anybody. Hopefully one day he'll realise the terrible thing he has done and feel bad about it, enough to convince others the generation below him that it's wrong to try and kill people at an airport and after doing time in prison he can have a second shot at life.

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Surprised noone has mentioned the {rather pathetic} attempted attacks on the UK.

 

No Terror Link To Failed UK Car Bomb

 

Terror Link Not Found, British Say

 

By MATT APUZZO

Associated Press Writer

Article Launched: 06/29/2007

09:03:32 AM PDT

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WASHINGTON—British authorities found no link between a defused London car bomb and any terrorist group during the early hours of their investigation, two officials in Washington said Friday.

 

The officials, who were briefed on the investigation, said the inquiry in London's bustling nightclub district had yielded no suspects and no definitive description of anyone leaving the vehicle.

 

...The two officials in Washington, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the case, discounted reports that the bomb seemed similar to those used by insurgents in Iraq.

 

They said it is too early in the investigation to assign any significance to those similarities.

 

Wassalam,

Yasnov

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Beavis and Butthead In London Jihad

 

By (you are not allowed to post links yet)"you can't post links until you reach 50 posts_forms.theregister.co.uk/mail_author/?story_url=/2007/06/29/more_fear_biscuits_please/"]Thomas C Greene in Dublin[/url]

Published Friday 29th June 2007 17:51 GMT

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Police and securocrats know that there aren't enough real terrorists in the world, which is why they have to keep manufacturing them.

 

This is because citizens tire of being watched by cameras, frisked and x-rayed, having their belongings searched, giving fingerprints to so-called friendly nations on entry, contemplating the myriad government databases where their details and activities are preserved, and wondering if some dour little bureaucrat is reading their email or listening to them on the phone.

 

Citizens tire also of reading the rolls of the war dead fraudulently sacrificed in the name of counterterrorist "victory", and of seeing hundreds of billions spent on surveillance and private security, ridiculous wars, and security-related gimmicks and gizmos, when it could be so much better spent on, oh, needs like housing, medicine and pensions, and mitigating actual mass threats to life via such non-sexy routes as traffic safety, fire safety, vaccinations, buildings and infrastructure inspection, water treatment, and food safety.

 

But the guys with the guns and cameras and listening devices have been on a roll since 9/11, embarrassing their clip-board-toting rivals in the race for public money, even though, collectively, they've taken or made meaner far more lives than they can ever hope to protect with their strategy of violence in the name of peace, and fascism in the name of liberty.

 

To keep the billions rolling in, they've got to produce a terrorist every now and then. Only real terrorists are hard to come by, so clowns and stooges with harebrained schemes end up doing bin Laden's perp walk periodically.

 

Today we have news from London, where a "big [explosive] device" was discovered inside a parked car near Piccadilly Circus. The device consisted of petrol, propane gas cylinders, and nails.

 

The car containing it had been abandoned after its driver was observed piloting it erratically, crashing it, then running off, like a true professional. Ambulance workers called to assist nearby noticed what they initially thought was smoke inside the car, but which likely was petrol vapour, and contacted police.

 

Bomb disposal specialists made it safe, and police officials and politicians began slyly invoking the terrorist bogeyman. Heaven forbid the public should be starved of their regular fear rations.

 

"As the police and security services have said on so many occasions, we face a serious and continuous threat to our country", day-old PM Gordon Brown said. "But this incident does recall the need for us to be vigilant at all times and the public to be alert at any potential incidents."

 

And what an incident.

 

"It is obvious that if the device had detonated there could have been serious injury or loss of life", Deputy Assistant Commissioner Peter Clarke intoned gravely.

 

Ah, if it had detonated. Yes, it could have been a real horror. Only, the device could not have detonated.

 

Not under any circumstances. You see, the terrorist wannabe clown who built it left out a crucial element: an oxidiser. The device was pure pre-teen boy fantasy.

 

"We'll heat up these propane cylinders with burning petrol, and they'll go off like bombs", boys the world over have remarked with glee. They don't realise that air is a poor oxidiser, and the only "explosion" they will get is when gas pressure inside the cylinders is great enough to burst them. Then the propane will ignite, and a nice fireball will blossom. A fireball, not an explosion.

 

Oh, the Piccadilly fireball would have blown the car's windows out, and popped its doors open, and sent various bits like mirrors and so forth into the air at velocities possibly fatal to people nearby. It would have looked really cool, that's for sure. But an explosive event...a detonation?

 

Not in a million years.

 

Sorry lads: you failed car bombing 101; you did not attend a single lecture; you did not even open the textbook.

 

Some stupid people did a stupid thing. Yes, they might have injured or killed one or two passers-by, but any body count would have come in spite of them, not as a product of their efforts. You and I are more likely to have been killed accidentally by the lousy driver than intentionally by his Beavis and Butthead car bomb.

 

This should have been dismissed for what it is: an event on the level of some teenagers getting a tremendously foolish notion, and being drunk enough for it to appeal to them.

 

But we're hearing whispers of terrorism instead - much as we heard from the Americans when they foiled a "terrorist plot" to blow up fuel storage tanks at Kennedy International.

 

It would have been devastating, prosecutors told us. Only that "plot" had the same hole in it: air makes a lousy oxidiser. If it had been carried out, it would certainly have made a bigger fireball than the one in London would have made. But that's about it.

 

So why is this such big news?

 

 

Because clowns have got to be passed off as terrorists.

 

Because a vast industry depends on terrorists, real and imagined, to justify its existence.

 

We live now in the grip of the security-industrial complex, and that hungry beast demands to be fed.

 

We feed it money hand over fist, and in return, it feeds us fear biscuits, which we are expected to accept with gratitude.

 

Roll over. Sit up and beg. See the bad man? Good citizen; here's your bickie. ®

 

Wassalam,

Yasnov

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Yasnov,

 

If your point is that you are glad these guys were incompetent then I wholeheartedly agree with you.

 

Their intentions and their dedication, though, are something that should worry people. The man was willing to be burned alive in order to fulfill his mission to kill as many civilians as possible. It was lucky for those civilians that these guys were as clueless about making bombs as they were about their own religion and its teachings about such things.

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Salaam,

 

Is there an opposite word for terrorist? If we agree the purpose of terrorism is to create terror then these guys have failed spectacularly. In a highly detailed poll including such as range of people as 'the check out girl in Tesco', 'the guy next to me on the bus' and 'people overheard in a (now smoke free) pub' the consensus seems (on the Glasgow guys) 'the complete morons failed and this is the enemy we're meant to be super scared of?! Woo hoo, the West is safe!'

 

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Eoin, would you object to 'Irish terrorists' to describe the IRA? For those who are committing acts of terror and claiming it to be in the name of Islam (etc etc) what phrase would you use? I tend to use 'Islamic Terrorism' because it is a simple shorthand the same way 'Irish Terrorism' is/was. I can agree to a large extent with your objections, but in the name of praticality, a simple phrase has to be available to describe there people who are acting under a common aim.

 

Peace and Love,

 

DARLA

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Whenever some bombs explode in UK, the enemies of Islam frame Muslims by calling the innocent and defenseless Muslims the Muslim terrorists and soon the UK police detain the framed Muslims then the UK police release the innocent Muslims quietly for the UK police has no proofs against them.

 

Blair is handing over his authority to new UK prime minister when a double car bomb plot is foiled in the capital ( London). I believe that the explosions and the foiled car bomb plot are carried out by the enemies of Islam to frame Muslims and ensure that the new UK prime minister will always support the US-Zionist-Evangelist imperialism.

 

The hypocrisy of West is very clear when it does not condemn the UK and US forces that are invading and occupying sovereign countries such as Iraq, Somalia, Afghanistan etc and attacking and destroying civilian targets and terrorizing and massacring innocent and defenseless Muslims in Muslim countries such as Iraq, Somalia, Afghanistan etc ! Should I call the UK and US soldiers etc the Christian terrorists for terrorizing Muslim countries???

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:sl:

 

To be honest I think this is a bunch of rubbish. Watch how now they will start changing policy and start targeting us muslims even more. Just watch, muslims are no longer going to be able to have a beard without being stopped and questioned. We hear Gordan Brown talking about how Britain has to be united, and vigilant, and how we want to destroy their way of life.. it's sooo the other way around.

 

 

Mehmet

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I'm not sure that it is rubbish when it's caught on film and there are lots of witnesses.

 

###### I agree with you that the enemies of Islam are responsible for this, unfortunately they are enemies from within Islam. They are also rather stupid, 2 failed plots isn't just an accident, it's fundamentally stupid. And to get caught at the same time, real clever. I thought Al Queda were supposed to be highly trained and organised.

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I don't think its al-qaeda I just think its dis-illusioned youth who think this is the only way to prove a point?

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I don't think its al-qaeda I just think its dis-illusioned youth who think this is the only way to prove a point?

I'm inclined to agree. If such a thing as Al Qaeda exists elsewhere in the world, in the UK it's used as a "covers all" term.

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:sl:

 

 

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I'm not sure that it is rubbish when it's caught on film and there are lots of witnesses.

 

###### I agree with you that the enemies of Islam are responsible for this, unfortunately they are enemies from within Islam. They are also rather stupid, 2 failed plots isn't just an accident, it's fundamentally stupid. And to get caught at the same time, real clever. I thought Al Queda were supposed to be highly trained and organised.

 

 

I'm inclined to agree. If such a thing as Al Qaeda exists elsewhere in the world, in the UK it's used as a "covers all" term.

 

Hi you must be the latest idiot, yes the guys who done this are stupid but so are you... if you was a muslim what sort would you be? i think you'd be a moron... lol

 

You only have to look at 9/11 to see what devastation a so called 'successful' terrorist attack can do so count your lucky stars you idiot. I'm so glad the bombs didn't go off and so are many Muslims however i fundamentally think that its stupid moronish attitudes like yours that lead to these events... i mean what rubbish goes through your head? which tabloid do you read?

 

Is Al Qaeda used as a covers all term? Enlighten me Mr Moron your so educated. You must be Mr Current Affairs in your pub. Your stupidity is almost laughable. No in fact it is definitely laughable.

Edited by shaidmahmood

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... the enemies of Islam are responsible for this, unfortunately they are enemies from within Islam...

 

 

 

That's the whole 'game', in a nutshell. You guys like 'truth4u/######' and the like must have a tough time breathing. You know, with your heads up your..., I mean, in the sand.

 

 

 

 

 

 

P.S. Hey luvchunk !! :sl:

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oh my god, your so funny ha ha heads in sand is lovechunk your moron mate, i mean are you Mrs Moron or something

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oh my god, your so funny ha ha heads in sand is lovechunk your moron mate, i mean are you Mrs Moron or something

 

 

WOW, dude ! You're so 'deep'.

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never, i couldnt swim to save my life...i just found your sense of humour out of this world

 

 

 

That's not the 'deep' I was refering to. Nevermind. And thanks. (I think) :sl:

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Hi you must be the latest idiot, yes the guys who done this are stupid but so are you... if you was a muslim what sort would you be? i think you'd be a moron... lol

 

You only have to look at 9/11 to see what devastation a so called 'successful' terrorist attack can do so count your lucky stars you idiot. I'm so glad the bombs didn't go off and so are many Muslims however i fundamentally think that its stupid moronish attitudes like yours that lead to these events... i mean what rubbish goes through your head? which tabloid do you read?

 

Is Al Qaeda used as a covers all term? Enlighten me Mr Moron your so educated. You must be Mr Current Affairs in your pub. Your stupidity is almost laughable. No in fact it is definitely laughable.

Firstly, I would never be a muslim, so no point in debating that particular point.

Secondly, I was under the impression from reading some threads on this forum that muslims didn't even do 9/11 - is the fact that it was, sadly, done properly more evidence that it couldn't have been muslims?

Thirdly, I don't read tabloids.

Fourthly I am teetotal and don't frequent public houses.

And finally, yes Al Qaeda is used to cover all muslim terrorism in the UK - if you listened to what goes on around you then you would realise that.

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I'm not sure that it is rubbish when it's caught on film and there are lots of witnesses.

What's caught on film?

 

They are also rather stupid, 2 failed plots isn't just an accident, it's fundamentally stupid. And to get caught at the same time, real clever. I thought Al Queda were supposed to be highly trained and organised.

Did they announce already that it was the work of Al-Qaeda?

 

Wassalam,

Yasnov

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What's caught on film?

Did they announce already that it was the work of Al-Qaeda?

 

Wassalam,

Yasnov

A terrorist attack on Glasgow airport, unless of course they were just having difficulties with the car.

I think there's a picture above of one of the terrorists being put out with a fire extinguisher. Waste of a good fire extinguisher.

It must be Al Qaeda, all muslim terrorism is (it's a cover all term as mentioned earlier)

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