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"I am fed up with Islam in the Netherlands: no more Muslim immigrants allowed. I am fed up with the worship of Allah and Muhammad in the Netherlands: no more Masjids," his letter concluded."

 

Yet people wonder why Muslims worldwide are so angry? This guy isn't complaining about "terrorists" or anything of the sort, he simply doesn't like Islam! ...prat.

 

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This guy Wilders should look out. I'm sure there are a few 'open minded' Muslims out there who gunning for him, now.

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T.C.O.B. May I ask why you are supporting this extremist?

extremism on any side is bad, be they Muslim, dutch, or American.

we should be condemning this hate monger, like we condemn all hate mongers.

Unless that is, that you believe what he is saying is correct and that peaceful Muslims should be persecuted against.

In which case you should ask yourself if you are any better then all thous hate mongers out there

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T.C.O.B. May I ask why you are supporting this extremist?...

 

 

 

I'm NOT supporting either extremist, Wilders NOR Saudi Arabia.

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brothers please ignore TCOB, it seems like the latest brainwashed tabloid monkey ha logged on...

 

Anyway why you guy staking the guy serious for, his tie doesnt go weith the suit or shirt and he is blonde man with a silly face... come on peeps

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These people cant understand the simple fact - that the more you opress Islam and try to ban it - the more it will spread like wild fire in their back yards Inshallah :sl: .

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Yet people wonder why Muslims worldwide are so angry? This guy isn't complaining about "terrorists" or anything of the sort, he simply doesn't like Islam!

 

That's his personal opinion and it is no reason for anybody to be angry. We absolutely disagree with what he said offcourse, but it's his personal opinion and he is allowed to express it. There's obviously no chance the quran would be banned from the Netherlands tho. He's a nut.

 

Salam

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There's obviously no chance the quran would be banned from the Netherlands tho. He's a nut.

 

i agree.

 

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Hi all

 

I think the point is alot of Muslims go around saying things which invite bad feelings towards them. The most common thing ive seen for sigs on forums is this one

 

We will fight the infidel to death.

- Meanwhile American laws will protect us.

- Democrats and Leftist will support us.

- N.G.O.s will legitimize us.

- C.A.I.R. will incubate us.

- The A.C.L.U. will empower us.

- Western Universities will educate us.

- Masjids will shelter us

- O.P.E.C. will finance us

- Hollywood will love us.

- Kofi Annan and most of the United Nations will cover our ######.

 

trying to make us look fools using the laws we made to protect people like you shows utter contempt. Why should we welcome people with open arms who talk of us like this. No one will help you until you help yourselves and remove the extremists from your ranks.

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trying to make us look fools using the laws we made to protect people like you shows utter contempt. Why should we welcome people with open arms who talk of us like this. No one will help you until you help yourselves and remove the extremists from your ranks

 

SO this view of this guy in Netherland is an extreme view. Is that correct ?

 

I agree with Anthony completely.

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You could substitute 'Netherlands' with Saudi Arabia and 'Muslims' with Christians

You could, but there is no chance that the Netherlands will actually pass legislation prohibiting the public practice of Islam there. In Saudi Arabia, legislation forbidding the public practice of Christianity is already a fact of life.

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That's his personal opinion and it is no reason for anybody to be angry. We absolutely disagree with what he said offcourse, but it's his personal opinion and he is allowed to express it. Salam

He has freedom to express his personal opinion (despite of fellow extremists who would support him), and people have no reason to be angry and express their dislike over his comments. And when the words of Imam in Australia was taken out of context, this Imam has no reason to express his personal opinion, but people have reason to be angry over his misquoted words.

 

I think the point is alot of Muslims go around saying things which invite bad feelings towards them.

You might be dreaming. There are some Muslims who go around saying this things. But their number is just as much as those from non-Muslim who say evil things against Muslims. The difference is that Muslim's case will be exposed in media for decades and repeated in forums as the responsibility of Islam and Muslim, while the non Muslim case will be immediately swept under the rug.

 

The most common thing ive seen for sigs on forums is this one

If people say those things in this forum they will be banned and suspended, unlike those, say, in FFI.

 

Wassalam,

Yasnov

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and people have no reason to be angry and express their dislike over his comments.

 

they should express their dislike as much as they want, but they should not overstep the boundaries of free speech and instigate murder.

 

Salam

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they should express their dislike as much as they want, but they should not overstep the boundaries of free speech and instigate murder. Salam

I thought they were denied of their right to express contempt and dislike from your previous post. Okay then.

 

Wassalam,

Yasnov

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Wilders does not represent the majority view, just like the "bin Ladens" do not represent the majority view of Islam.

 

If one wanted to ban one religious book, you may as well ban them all. The Bible has more violence in it, and perhaps intolerance in the Old Testament than perhaps the Qur'an. Should it be banned? I would hope not. It is the best place for me to learn about who God is. Banning the Qur'an, or any other religious book would be ridiculous. How else can anyone be enlightened as to what other religions believe?

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As many have noted, there is no chance that a ban on the Quran will become law in the Netherlands. Here's a related news article the next day at WorldNetDaily, suggesting that parts of the Muslim world today are not as tolerant as the Dutch.

 

Traveling Americans threatened with Bible confiscation

National airline warns also about ban on crucifixes, Stars of David

Posted: August 9, 2007

5:00 p.m. Eastern

 

 

© 2007 WorldNetDaily######

 

 

Saudi Arabia has launched a series of initiatives to lure tourists, but the Muslim kingdom continues to prohibit Jews and Christians from bringing in Bibles, crucifixes and Stars of David, threatening to confiscate them on sight.

 

The Jerusalem Post reported the website of the country's national carrier, Saudi Arabian Airlines, declared: "A number of items are not allowed to be brought into the kingdom due to religious reasons and local regulations."

 

The website – after referring to a prohibition on narcotics, firearms and pornography – states: "Items and articles belonging to religions other than Islam are also prohibited. These may include Bibles, crucifixes, statues, carvings, items with religious symbols such as the Star of David, and others."

 

The Jerusalem paper said it confirmed the rule in a conversation with a Saudi Arabian Airlines employee in New York, who would only give her name as Gladys.

 

"Yes, sir," she said, "that is what we have heard, that it is a problem to bring these things into Saudi Arabia, so you cannot do it."

 

An official at the Saudi Consulate in New York, who declined to give her name, also confirmed "you are not allowed to bring that stuff into the kingdom."

 

"If you do, they will take it away," she warned, adding, "If it is really important to you, then you can try to bring it and just see what happens, but I don't recommend that you do so."

 

The Post asked the consular official to explain the policy.

 

"Every country has rules about what can or cannot enter," she said.

 

The paper said the Saudi government-run Supreme Commission for Tourism is trying to boost the number of foreign tourists annually to 1.5 million by 2020. Initiatives include issuing group visas to foreigners through tour operators and granting longer entry visas.

 

As WND reported in 2004, when Saudi Arabia announced a new policy to allow tourists, it brought attention to the official Supreme Commission for Tourism's website, which explicitly stated Jews were barred from applying for visas.

 

But after WND published a story about the site's contents, the reference to Jews was eliminated, and the Saudi Embassy in Washington insisted the Islamic kingdom does not bar anyone on the basis of religion or ethnicity.

 

The website originally said the following people are not allowed in the country:

 

* An israeli passport holder or a passport that has an israeli arrival/departure stamp.

 

* Those who don't abide by the Saudi traditions concerning appearance and behaviors.

 

* Those under the influence of alcohol ... .

 

* Jewish People

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Peace to all,

 

While I dont agree with this guy's opinions, he is entitled to his own thinking and it is highly unlikely this man and his retarded party will ever come to power in the political body to have any influence over the laws. Right now this man seems to be making a name for himself; thats all.

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Must be an election year in The Netherlands. :sl:

 

As for someone posting the wnd article, how much of what wnd says is even half-decent journalism. They give Christians a bad name with their zionist propaganda.

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As for someone posting the wnd article, how much of what wnd says is even half-decent journalism. They give Christians a bad name with their zionist propaganda.

I posted the article. I just happened to run across it on the web. If wnd isn't reputable, my apologies; I haven't heard of them, or read other articles that they've published. Are you saying that it really isn't a problem to carry Bibles into Saudi Arabia?

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I still can't post links, but I've found several which suggest that it really is a problem to bring Bibles into Saudi Arabia. Amnesty International even tells of one man who was executed for smuggling a Bible into Saudi Arabia, and of dozens of others who were jailed and deported when a Bible was found outside their house. It looks to me like travel sites generally advise travelers to leave non-Muslim religious items at the border.

 

Since my holy book is the universe itself, and I have no plans of going to Saudi Arabia anyway, none of this affects me. To this outsider, though, it seems like the "prats" in the west still come off looking more tolerant than the Saudis.

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I still can't post links, but I've found several which suggest that it really is a problem to bring Bibles into Saudi Arabia.

Can I take my Bible into Saudi Arabia?

Yes, you are generally allowed to bring your Bible or other religious items with you as long as they are not intended to be used to try to convert Muslims.

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Wassalam,

Yasnov

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:sl: lol, so...which one is the truth about the Bible's etc?

and yeh, totally agree with Anthony on the Netherlands guy, he won't get elected for anything major and his opinion inshAllah, wont be agreed with.

Im more worried about this Saudi thing though, because..it just isnt right. That rule (if its true) isn't going to help the Muslims out, because as an Ummah, it means we're being hypocritical, but im guessing most Muslims dont know about this rule because not many of our neighbour's who are Christian etc want to get into Saudi lol.

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