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Pakistan's political turmoil deepens

 

By MATTHEW PENNINGTON, Associated Press Writer 4 minutes ago

 

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan - Political turmoil in Pakistan deepened Thursday when the government raised the possibility that embattled President Gen. Pervez Musharraf might impose a state of emergency, drawing condemnation that doing so would be a desperate bid to hold onto power.

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Tariq Azim, the minister for state information, said a state of emergency could not be ruled out because of "external and internal threats" and deteriorating security in Pakistan's volatile northwest near the Afghan border.

 

Azim also said talk from the United States about the possibility of U.S. military action against al-Qaida in Pakistan "has started alarm bells ringing and has upset the Pakistani public." He mentioned Democratic presidential hopeful Barak Obama by name as an example of someone who made such comments, saying his recent remarks were one reason the government was debating a state of emergency.

 

But a top figure in the ruling party who is close to Musharraf dismissed as gossip reports that such a step was being considered.

 

"These are only rumors and baseless reports," Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain, president of the ruling Pakistan Muslim League-Q party, told reporters, Pakistan's Geo television reported.

 

After speaking to Musharraf by phone Thursday, Information Minister Mohammed Ali Durrani said the president was committed to holding free and fair elections. "He is of the opinion in the present circumstances that there is no justification for imposition of emergency," Durrani said.

 

Musharraf, a key ally in Washington's fight against terrorism, has suffered dwindling support and his standing has been badly shaken by a failed bid to oust the country's chief justice, Iftikhar Mohammed Chaudhry — an independent-minded judge likely to rule on expected legal challenges to Musharraf's bid to seek a new five-year presidential term.

 

It was not immediately clear how Musharraf might gain politically from a state of emergency, but it would give him sweeping powers, including the ability to restrict people's freedom to move, rally, and engage in political activities and assert their fundamental rights through the courts.

 

Yet the Supreme Court — which has emerged as the most potent check on the military leader's dominance of Pakistani politics — could still challenge the legality of a state of emergency.

 

Last week, a bench of the court headed by Chaudhry freed a key political opponent of Musharraf on bail, and on Thursday heard a freedom of movement case lodged by former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, who is seeking to return from exile to stand in parliamentary elections due by early 2008.

 

Political analyst Talat Masood said that if Musharraf imposed a state of emergency it would be an act of desperation that would doubtless be challenged in the courts, and could trigger a public backlash against the president.

 

"This is his weapon of last resort," Masood said. "But it would be a weapon of mass destruction, of mass political destruction."

 

Legal experts and security officials began arriving at Musharraf's office in Islamabad on Thursday for meetings on the issue, a presidential aide said on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue. Attorney General Malik Abdul Qayyum said he had been summoned to meet Musharraf later in the day, but he had not been told the reason.

 

Azim told The Associated Press that a state of emergency was being considered by top government officials.

 

"These are only unconfirmed reports although the possibility of imposition of emergency cannot be ruled out and has recently been talked about and discussed, keeping in mind some external and internal threats and the law and order situation," he said.

 

"We hope that it does not happen. But we are going through difficult circumstances so the possibility of an emergency cannot be ruled out," he said.

 

Azim referred to recent Pakistani military action against militants in northwestern border areas that he said had resulted in the deaths of many soldiers.

 

More than 360 people have died during a wave of suicide attacks and clashes between militants and security forces that began with a bloody army assault on a pro-Taliban Masjid in Islamabad in early July.

 

On Wednesday, Obama was asked again about his views on Pakistan and the militant violence hitting the country.

 

"We can't send millions and millions of dollars to Pakistan for military aid and be a constant ally to them and yet not see more aggressive action in dealing with al-Qaida," he told reporters in Oakland, Calif.

 

However, he did not repeat the most incendiary line from his foreign policy speech last week when he promised: "If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will."

 

Masood, the analyst, dismissed the idea of Obama's comments being used to justify a state of emergency as "ridiculous."

 

Musharraf is under growing American pressure to crack down on militants at the Afghan border because of fears that al-Qaida is regrouping there.

 

The Bush administration has also not ruled out unilateral military action inside Pakistan, but like Obama, has stressed the need to work with Musharraf.

 

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice spoke with Musharraf by phone for more than 15 minutes in the early hours of Thursday, said an official in Washington on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the situation. The official refused to discuss the content of the conversation.

 

Musharraf on Wednesday abruptly pulled out of the meeting in Kabul with more than 600 Pakistani and Afghan tribal leaders, phoning Afghan President Hamid Karzai to say he couldn't attend because of "engagements" in Islamabad.

 

Under Pakistan's Constitution, the president may declare a state of emergency if it is deemed the country's security is "threatened by war or external aggression, or by internal disturbance beyond" the authority of provincial government's authority to control.

 

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i have 'been away' from news for nearly 2 months, can someone a little more versed fill in the details here?

 

is america's global terror campaign about to destroy yet another country? Whilst i have no love for musharraf, it would be a disaster for the entire world were this country to fall apart into a destructive civil war.

 

PLEASE, can someone give more details about the situation there?

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welcome back gnuneo, i hope your vacation was great :sl:

 

basically musharaf is in serious trouble because of the decisions he has been making in his quest to become an all powerful dictator. he fired the country's supreme court justice because the justice didn't agree with him in certain matters (which is the job of the judicial brunch btw :sl: ) so there were mass protests by the countries lawyers, judges and common people. this is how he accelerated his loss of popularity.

 

then to divert the attention from his troubles, he laid a siege on the red Masjid/school which is a quite famous Masjid in the heart of the capital. the siege lasted for a few days ending after the army stormed the Masjid resulting in the deaths of many students and teachers inside the Masjid. needless to say an attack on the Masjid was probably the most unnecessary attack every conceived. it could have been easily solved other ways.

 

this sort of angered many militant groups in pakistan and they in turn bombed police and army stations inside the country. and the needless bloodshed of students angered many ordinary pakistanis as well resulting in an even more strength in opposition against the military dictator. pakistani board members here are REALLY angry at musharaf.

 

from what you have posted it seems that musharaf is extremely desperate especially because he is changing his strategy pretty much everyday. one day he says he won't put emergency state another day he says he will. he also said he wants to create an alliance with the populist politician bhutto so that he can hang onto some power.

 

i think given the volatility of the situation because of the contribution of so many factors it's impossible to aviod conflict. musharaf will have a difficult time holding onto power and other groups are trying to grab it. added to that america will oppose any sort of pakistani government that disagrees with it no matter how just and fair that government is. there's a real possibility that pakistan might break up into different states over the next decade or so. but as always the future is uncertain.

 

peace

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Only hope for Pakistan is leader like Imran Khan. Religious parties are not playing any good role especially moulana Fazal ur rehman. I cannot watch tv if one of these Mushraf or Moulana Fazalurrehman comes on tv.. Qazi hussain Ahmed is better man but his allies like fazal ur rehman are just like idiots.

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:sl:

 

I agree, it would be best for the country if Imran Khan could get elected as leader of Pakistan.

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Assalamualikum

 

actually it would be great if Sheikh Osama becomes president .....Sheikh Zawahiri can be foreign minister.....and Mullah Omar can be Commander of the armies.....wouldnt that be sweet :sl:

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Assalamualikum

 

actually it would be great if Sheikh Osama becomes president .....Sheikh Zawahiri can be foreign minister.....and Mullah Omar can be Commander of the armies.....wouldnt that be sweet :sl:

 

Yes that would be sweet for they refused to be the US puppets aka US whores! That's why the US regime hates them so much.

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:D Brothers and Sisters,

It's so depressing to see my country this way. only 4 days later we celebrate 60 years of our independence :D and our country is going through all this. May Allah :no: have mercy on my country and may things take positive turns from now on so that we can be a prosperous country :sl: I think Imran Khan is somewhat the only chance Pakistan has otherwise practically everyone else has a personal interest involved rather than aiming for a better Pakistan. May Allah :D help my country at this time of crisis. :sl:

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Assalamualikum

 

i dont like imran khan because he is probably against the so called "extremists"......and he will only further Pakistan into a democracy instead of establishing Islamic law.......but if he goes against america and reclaims Kashmir then atleast he will be better than busharraf.

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actually it would be great if Sheikh Osama becomes president .....Sheikh Zawahiri can be foreign minister.....and Mullah Omar can be Commander of the armies.....wouldnt that be sweet

 

Im pretty sure this violates the forum rules, but whatever.

 

How can Osama and zawahiri receives such high political positions, when all they're good at is bombing people? May Allah(swt) Guide them to the Straight Path.

 

Mullah Omar is good at executing women in public stadiums, thats for sure tho. Some great country you have invisioned there bro...

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Im pretty sure this violates the forum rules, but whatever.

 

How can Osama and zawahiri receives such high political positions, when all they're good at is bombing people? May Allah(swt) Guide them to the Straight Path.

 

Mullah Omar is good at executing women in public stadiums, thats for sure tho. Some great country you have invisioned there bro...

 

I'm pretty sure this does not violate the forum rules for Osama and Zawahiri are fighting the US regime that is terrorizing Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia etc..

 

How can Bush and his Zionist-Evangelist terrorists receive such high political positions in the US regime, when all they're good at inventing fairy tales and lies, invading and occupying Muslim countries, attacking and destroying civilian targets in Muslim countries, and terrorizing, raping, torturing and massacring innocent and defenseless Muslims? May Allah(swt) destroy them for they are terrorizing the world.

 

Bush and his Zionist-Evangelist terrorists are good at imposing economic embargoes and food sanctions that starved a million Iraqi children and babies to death mercilessly, thats for sure tho. And now the American-Zionist terrorists have massacred more than 670 000 innocent and defenseless Muslims in Iraq when they invade Iraq illegally....... How about the Afghan and Somalian people ? The US-Zionist terrorists are terrorizing them too !

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How can Bush and his Zionist-Evangelist terrorists receive such high political positions in the US regime, when all they're good at inventing fairy tales and lies, invading and occupying Muslim countries, attacking and destroying civilian targets in Muslim countries, and terrorizing, raping, torturing and massacring innocent and defenseless Muslims? May Allah(swt) destroy them for they are terrorizing the world.

 

The same way that Osama and his fellow terrorist Zawahiri receive such respect from those such as yourself, when all they're good at is inventing fairy tales and lies in order to make muslims hate non-muslims, and attacking and destroying civilian targets in the USA, Britain, etc etc. May Allah(swt) destroy them(and Bush too) for they are terrorizing the world.

 

Salam

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:sl:

 

when all they're good at is inventing fairy tales and lies in order to make muslims hate non-muslims

 

You clearly have problems with the issues of al Walaa' and al Baraa', why do you ignore the Ahadeeth and Ayaat on these issues?

Such as:

 

“O you who believe, do not take the kafireen as awliyaa’ instead of the Believers, do you wish to take Allah as a proof against you?” [4: 144]

 

“Let not the believers take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you (To remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah.”[3: 28].

 

"O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them.” [5: 51-57]

 

It needs to be mentioned that by having hatred for the kuffar in no way means that we mistreat them, rather our hatred is part of our worship and is done purely for the sake of Allah. Our hatred is for their disbelief and rejection of Allah and the Deen of Islam, thus our treatment towards them must be in accordance with the command of Allah in order not to treat them unjustly.

 

The Messenger Muhammad (s) stated as narrated in Ahmad: “The most powerful knot of Iman is to love for the sake of Allah and to hate for the sake of Allah.”

 

Therefore in our current reality where we are living amongst the kuffar, where the governments of the Western world have launched their CrUSAde against the Muslims, where Muslims are being persecuted, arrested and detained, it is imperative that we maintain our walaa and baraa. We must understand that the kuffar can never be equal to the Muslims, nor can there be any type of interfaith between us, nor any alliance or support for them and their cause as this will result in the neglecting of al-Walaa wal-Baraa and hence cause a deficiency in ones Iman leading to the negation of it. If any Muslim makes Muwalaat to the kuffar, it is sin, however if they ally with them, they will become Murtad (apostate), but to ally with them to fight against Muslims, he becomes Murtad Harbie (an apostate at war with the Muslims).We must stay clear of the kuffar, their beliefs and way of life; we must have hatred for their disobedience and carry hatred for their actions. We must not show any affection towards them nor to befriend them or to ally with them. We must not regard them as being better than the believers nor treat them better than the believers. We must however show affection towards the Muslims, to ally and support them, to love them for what they believe and the good they perform. We must keep company with Muslims and live amongst them. We must respect them at the same time having hatred for any sin they may do or any deviation they may carry. We must understand that to love and hate is done purely for the sake of Allah in accordance to whatever and whomever He loves and hates, as the highest and most foremost level of love and hate above all else is for Allah Himself.

 

“Whosoever possess the following three qualities will have the sweetness of faith; the one whom Allah and His messenger become more dearer to him than anything else, who loves a person and he loves him purely for the sake of Allah, and who hates to revert to disbelief as he hates to be thrown into hellfire.” [bukhari, Muslim]

 

Lets look at Islamic history to see how the Sahabah practised al Walaa wal Baraa. At the battle of Badr, ‘Umar (radiyallahu ‘anhu) killed his own uncle; this is Baraa in its highest form.

Mus’ab ibn ‘Umayr (radiyallahu ‘anhu) had a Kafir brother called Azeez who was fighting against the Muslims and was held captive. So Mus’ab was running towards him, and his brother became happy at this, but when Mus’ab came he said, “Tie him tight, his mother is rich and in Makkah, and

she can afford to buy his freedom.” Azeez was bewildered and said, “How can you speak like that Mus’ab?! We came from the same womb; you’re my brother!” Mus’ab said, “No you are wrong, you are not my brother. You are a Kafir; he is my brother.” And he pointed to another Muslim who was standing by.

This is called al-Walaa wal Baraa - now you know why the Sahabah were successful.

Edited by The_Mujahid

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Assalamualikum

 

i dont like imran khan because he is probably against the so called "extremists"......and he will only further Pakistan into a democracy instead of establishing Islamic law.......but if he goes against america and reclaims Kashmir then atleast he will be better than busharraf.

well, Imran Khan supports Islamic law, but he mostly speak on democracy and rule of law.. but when asked about it, he said that he support shariah law.

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Mullah Omar is good at executing women in public stadiums, thats for sure tho. Some great country you have invisioned there bro...

 

Ohh, So mr anthony will reward criminal women, prostitutes and a women who commit murder by giving them 10000 dollars and will say.. "see, I am a great leader".

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The_Mujahid:

i admire you, really i do. And were i a Muslim General, and you under my command, i would give you the Position of Honour in my army, for you to be a role-model for the rest of the army, who may look up to you - or more accurately look forward to you, as you progress in the Vanguard of the Army, to be part of the first wave of shock-troops for Allah. I would do this in the certain knowledge that not only will your inevitable early death be an inspiration, it will also ensure a slight improvement in the genetic and intellectual stock of mankind.

 

peace be unto you.

 

 

alameen: thank you very much for your analysis, it was to the point and covered pretty much everything. Do you also think that Imran would be a good choice for president? It seems sometimes that corruption is embedded so firmly in pakistan, it is hard to see how it can be ended, without handing it over to talibanesque fanatics who will turn it into a mirror image of afghanistan, poverty and all.

 

we also in the UK have our corrupt leaders of course, and it is also hard to see how we might get rid of them as well, i am not pointing specific fingers at pakistan you understand. It is a very grave situation, i feel. I strongly hope it can turn out well.

 

peace and love. :sl:

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