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Asalam u alakum.

 

Friends i need answer for these questions against Muslim women.

 

Quotes from the "Holy" Quran on Women

 

 

II/223: Your women are a tilth for you (to cultivate). So go to your tilth as ye will...

 

Here you can clearly see how highly Islam treats women. Women in Islam are referred to as fields that are to be cultivated by man. What an honour for a Muslim woman!

 

IV/34: Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other.. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them.

 

First point to notice here is that Quran clearly states that Men are superior to women. Secondly, Islam instructs that a man should control his women through brutal violence and fear.

 

IV/15: (For women) If any one of your women is guilty of lewdness ...confine them until death claims them.

 

IV/16: (For Men) If two men among you commit indecency (sodomy) punish them both. If they repent and mend their ways, let them be. Allah is forgiving and merciful.

 

As you can see, for women any sort of sexual exploration is punishable by death. Whereas for a man, any form of perversion is pardoned by the all merciful Allah.

 

XXIV/6-7: As for those who accuse their wives but have no witnesses except themselves , let the testimony of one of them be four testimonies...

 

Here we see, that a husband can easily accuse his wife (or wives) and eventually sentence her to death by merely declaring four times that the accusation is true. On the other hand, women have no such right in Islam.

 

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Interesting. Are you the person taking these verses out of context and misquoting them, or are you quoting someone else, perhaps a non-Muslim?

 

Salam.

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Interesting. Are you the person taking these verses out of context and misquoting them, or are you quoting someone else, perhaps a non-Muslim?

 

Salam.

 

Salam,

These are the worlds of a nonMuslim.

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These are the worlds of a nonMuslim.

 

Ah, I thought so.

 

For the first verse you had. Let's first look at the definition of tilth.

 

1. the act or operation of tilling land; tillage.

2. the state of being tilled or under cultivation.

3. the physical condition of soil in relation to plant growth.

4. land that is tilled or cultivated.

 

Now, let's first note that "tilth" is the English translation, so we can't assume it's an exact definition of the Arabic word. However, this verse refers to the act of impregnating one's wife. The entire verse:

 

Your wives are a tilth for you, so go to your tilth, when or how you will, and send (good deeds, or ask Allah to bestow upon you pious offspring) for your own selves beforehand. And fear Allah, and know that you are to meet Him (in the Hereafter), and give good tidings to the believers (O Muhammad ).

 

Now, I'm not sure if I can give the explanation given by Ibn Kathir, since it has sexual content that might not be suitable on the forum, I'll have to ask someone. But let's just say it refers to something that the Jews prohibited but that Islam allowed, which explains the "when and how you will" part.

 

So the verse is entirely out of context.

 

IV/34: Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other.. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them.

 

Here is a better translation of the verse:

 

34. Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend (to support them) from their means. Therefore the righteous women are Qanitat, and guard in the husband's absence what Allah orders them to guard. As to those women on whose part you see ill conduct, admonish them, and abandon them in their beds, and beat them [i'll explain this if needed], but if they return to obedience, do not seek a means against them. Surely, Allah is Ever Most High, Most Great.

 

(Men are the protectors and maintainers of women,) meaning, the man is responsible for the woman, and he is her maintainer, caretaker and leader.

 

[òﺾúﻌóﺑ ﻰóﻠóﻋ úﻢõﻬóﻀúﻌóﺑ õﻪóøﻠﻟﺍ óﻞóøﻀóﻓ ﺎóﻤöﺑ]

 

(because Allah has made one of them to excel the other,) meaning, because men excel over women and are better than them for certain tasks. This is why prophethood was exclusive of men, as well as other important positions of leadership. The Prophet said,

 

«ﺓóﺃóﺮúﻣﺍ õﻢõﻫóﺮúﻣóﺃ ﺍúﻮóøﻟóﻭ ñﻡúﻮóﻗ óﺢöﻠúﻔõﻳ úﻦóﻟ»

 

(People who appoint a woman to be their leader, will never achieve success.) Al-Bukhari recorded this Hadith. Such is the case with appointing women as judges or on other positions of leadership.

 

[úﻢöﻬöﻟóﻮúﻣóﺃ úﻦöﻣ úﺍﻮõﻘóﻔﻧóﺃ ﺂóﻤöﺑóﻭ]

 

(and because they spend from their means.) meaning the dowry, expenditures and various expenses that Allah ordained in His Book and the Sunnah of His Messenger for men to spend on women. For these reasons it is suitable that he is appointed her maintainer, just as Allah said,

 

[ñﺔóﺟóﺭóﺩ óøﻦöﻬúﻴóﻠóﻋ öﻝﺎóﺟöøﺮﻠöﻟóﻭ]

 

(But men have a degree (of responsibility) over them).

 

Qualities of the Righteous Wife

 

Allah said,

 

[õﺖÜóﺤöﻠÜóøﺼﻟﺎóﻓ]

 

(Therefore, the righteous) women,

 

[òﺖÜóﺘöﻨÜóﻗ]

 

(are Qanitat), obedient to their husbands, as Ibn `Abbas and others stated.

 

[öﺐúﻴóﻐúﻠöøﻟ ñﺖÜóﻈöﻔÜóﺣ]

 

(and guard in the husband's absence) As-Suddi and others said that it means she protects her honor and her husband's property when he is absent, and Allah's statement,

 

[õﻪóøﻠﻟﺍ óﻆöﻔóﺣ ﺎóﻤöﺑ]

 

(what Allah orders them to guard.) means, the protected [husband] is the one whom Allah protects. Ibn Jarir recorded that Abu Hurayrah said that the Messenger of Allah said,

 

«õﺮúﻴóﺧ ﺍóﺫöﺇóﻭ ¡óﻚúﺗóøﺮóﺳ ﺎóﻬúﻴóﻟöﺇ óﺕúﺮóﻈóﻧ ﺍóﺫöﺇ ñﺓóﺃóﺮúﻣﺍ öÃﺎóﺴöøﻨﻟﺍ ﻲöﻓ óﻚúﺘóﻈöﻔóﺣ ﺎóﻬúﻨóﻋ óﺖúﺒöﻏ ﺍóﺫöﺇóﻭ ¡óﻚúﺘóﻋﺎóﻃóﺃ ﺎóﻬóﺗúﺮóﻣóﺃ ﻚöﻟﺎóﻣóﻭ ﺎóﻬöﺴúﻔóﻧ»

 

(The best women is she who when you look at her, she pleases you, when you command her she obeys you, and when you are absent, she protects her honor and your property.) Then, the Messenger of Allah recited the Ayah,

 

[öÃﺂóﺴöøﻨﻟﺍ ﻰóﻠóﻋ óﻥﻮõﻣﺍóøﻮóﻗ õﻝﺎóﺟöøﺮﻟﺍ]

 

(Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, ) until its end. Imam Ahmad recorded that `Abdur-Rahman bin 'Awf said that the Messenger of Allah said,

 

«ﺍóﺫöﺇ úﺖóﻈöﻔóﺣóﻭ ¡ﺎóﻫóﺮúﻬóﺷ úﺖóﻣﺎóﺻóﻭ ¡ﺎóﻬóﺴúﻤóﺧ õﺓóﺃúﺮóﻤúﻟﺍ öﺖóøﻠóﺻ ﺎóﻬóﻟ óﻞﻴöﻗ ¡ﺎóﻬóﺟúﻭóﺯ úﺖóﻋﺎóﻃóﺃóﻭ ¡ﺎóﻬóﺟúﺮóﻓ:úﻦöﻣ óﺔóøﻨóﺠúﻟﺍ ﻲöﻠõﺧúﺩﺍ ﺖúﺌöﺷ öﺏﺍóﻮúﺑóﺄúﻟﺍ öøﻱóﺃ»

 

(If the woman prayed her five daily prayers, fasted her month, protected her chastity and obeyed her husband, she will be told, 'Enter Paradise from any of its doors you wish.')

 

 

Men and women in Islam do not have the same roles. The man is the provider, protector, and leader of the household. The woman is the supporter and nurturer. Both of these roles come with duties, one is not easier than the other.

 

Secondly, Islam instructs that a man should control his women through brutal violence and fear.

 

Refusing to sleep with one's wife is not brutal violence and fear, neither is beating her with something that resembles, not to mention feels like, a feather. It is means for a man to assert his power in the household.

 

Note that it does not allow him to use actual brutal violence and fear, such as kicking her out of the house, refusing to feed her, or actually beating her.

 

IV/15: (For women) If any one of your women is guilty of lewdness ...confine them until death claims them.

 

You only quoted part of this verse. The full verse says:

 

If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, Take the evidence of four (Reliable) witnesses from amongst you against them; and if they testify, confine them to houses until death do claim them, or Allah ordain for them some (other) way.

 

Allah did ordain another way, in Surah An-Nur, which gave the ruling of flogging an unmarried woman (or man) and stoning a married woman (or man) to death.

 

IV/16: (For Men) If two men among you commit indecency (sodomy) punish them both. If they repent and mend their ways, let them be. Allah is forgiving and merciful.

 

I'm not sure if the ruling on the flogging and stoning (both of which were revealed after this) also apply to sodomy, but even then, you do realize that a man and woman CAN commit sodomy?

 

Plus, it says that they are still punished and that if they cease with their actions, that's when they'll be left alone.

 

XXIV/6-7: As for those who accuse their wives but have no witnesses except themselves , let the testimony of one of them be four testimonies...

 

You didn't quote the next four verses.

 

6. And for those who accuse their wives, but have no witnesses except themselves, let the testimony of one of them be four testimonies by Allah that he is one of those who speak the truth.

7. And the fifth (testimony); invoking of the curse of Allah on him if he be of those who tell a lie.

8. But she shall avert the punishment from her, if she bears witness four times by Allah, that he is telling a lie.

9. And the fifth; should be that the wrath of Allah be upon her if he speaks the truth.

10. And had it not been for the grace of Allah and His mercy on you! And that Allah is the One Who forgives and accepts repentance, the All-Wise.

 

It means that if a husband cannot produce 4 witnesses that his wife has committed adultery, he can take her in front of an imam and testify 5 times that he is telling the truth. After that, the woman can testify 5 times that she has been falsely accused, which means that she won't be punished. A truthful man wouldn't have accused his wife, nor would a truthful woman deny the charges. If either of them lies, they are cursed by Allah.

 

Salam.

Edited by Layna

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«ﺓóﺃóﺮúﻣﺍ õﻢõﻫóﺮúﻣóﺃ ﺍúﻮóøﻟóﻭ ñﻡúﻮóﻗ óﺢöﻠúﻔõﻳ úﻦóﻟ»

 

(People who appoint a woman to be their leader, will never achieve success.) Al-Bukhari recorded this Hadith. Such is the case with appointing women as judges or on other positions of leadership.

this is interesting, as in Judges (Christian Bible) Deborah is appointed a leadership role, as literally a 'judge' of israel.

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this is interesting, as in Judges (Christian Bible) Deborah is appointed a leadership role, as literally a 'judge' of israel.

 

It's a different kind of "success", I guess.

 

Salam.

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Hitting one’s wife?

 

Question:

To be honest i was really astonished to read how you do answer all the questions cleverly. I really want to know more about Islam but every time I know something new, I get suspicious about it Bravely, I would like to know if it is correct that the Coran permits a man to bit his wife? If that’s true how could you explain that?.

 

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

 

We are very happy that you are reading our site and are keen to learn about Islam. We ask Allaah to guide you to that which will bring you happiness in this world and in the hereafter.

 

There is nothing in the Qur’aan that suggests that a man is allowed to bite his wife.

 

1 – The Qur’aan enjoins good treatment of one's wife: she is to be honoured and treated kindly, even when one no longer feels love in one's heart towards her. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

 

“and live with them honourably. If you dislike them, it may be that you dislike a thing and Allaah brings through it a great deal of goodâ€

 

[al-Nisa’ 4:19]

 

2 – The Qur’aan explains that women have rights over their husbands, just as their husbands have rights over them. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

 

“And they (women) have rights (over their husbands as regards living expenses) similar (to those of their husbands) over them (as regards obedience and respect) to what is reasonable, but men have a degree (of responsibility) over them. And Allaah is All-Mighty, All-Wiseâ€

 

[al-Baqarah 2:228]

 

This verse indicates that the man has additional rights, commensurate with his role as protector and maintainer and his responsibility of spending (on his wife) etc.

 

3 – The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) enjoined kind treatment and honouring of one’s wife, and he described the best of people as those who are best to their wives. He said: “The best of you are those who are the best to their wives, and I am the best of you to my wives.†Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 3895; Ibn Maajah, 1977; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.

 

4 – The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) spoke beautiful word concerning kind treatment of one’s wife, stating that when the husband feeds his wife and puts a morsel of food in her mouth, he earns the reward of doing an act of charity. He said, “You never spend anything but you will be rewarded for it, even the morsel of food that you lift to your wife’s mouth.†Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 6352; Muslim, 1628.

 

4 – And he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Fear Allaah with regard to women, for you have taken them as a trust from Allaah and intimacy with them has become permissible to you by the words of Allaah. Your right over them is that they should not allow anyone to sit on your furniture whom you dislike; if they do that then hit them but not in a harsh manner. And their right over you is that you should provide for them and clothe them on a reasonable basis.†Narrated by Muslim, 1218.

 

What is meant by “they should not allow anyone to sit on your furniture whom you dislike†is that they should not allow anyone whom you dislike to enter your houses, whether the person disliked is a man or a woman, or any of the woman’s mahrams [close relatives to whom marriage is forbidden]. The prohibition includes all of them. From the words of al-Nawawi.

 

The hadeeth may be understood as meaning that a man has the right to hit his wife, in a manner that is not harsh and does not cause injury if if there is a reason for that, such as her going against his wishes or disobeying him.

 

This is like the verse in which Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

 

“As to those women on whose part you see ill‑conduct, admonish them (first), (next) refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance). Surely, Allaah is Ever Most High, Most Greatâ€

 

[al-Nisa’ 4:34]

 

If a woman rebels against her husband and disobeys his commands, then he should follow this method of admonishing her, forsaking her in bed and hitting her. Hitting is subject to the condition that it should not be harsh or cause injury. Al-Hasan al-Basri said: this means that it should not cause pain.

 

‘Ata’ said: I said to Ibn ‘Abbaas, what is the kind of hitting that is not harsh? He said, Hitting with a siwaak and the like. [A siwaak is a small stick or twig used for cleaning the teeth - Translator]

(Please note that this twig that is refered to is aprox 10-12 cm long and it is very thin. It does not hurt. But given the context of treating the female in Islam where she is to be well treated and not to be showed dismay except when there is a continious error, then just pinching her will hurt her emotions, not physical hurt. it is a different act than what she sees every day to make her pay attention. a pinch hurts more than this siwak twig. If the man hurts her beyond that where she is in physical pain and it is harmful to her then she has rights over him; leaving the house, asking for divorce, etc. The condition of the permissible hitting with this twig is hat it is not harmful. Harmful is not a relative term, harm in any way. Allah knows best)

 

The purpose behind this is not to hurt or humiliate the woman, rather it is intended to make her realize that she has transgressed against her husband’s rights, and that her husband has the right to set her straight and discipline her.

 

And Allaah knows best.

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Asalam u alakum.

 

Friends i need answer for these questions against Muslim women.

 

Quotes from the "Holy" Quran on Women

II/223: Your women are a tilth for you (to cultivate). So go to your tilth as ye will...

 

Here you can clearly see how highly Islam treats women. Women in Islam are referred to as fields that are to be cultivated by man. What an honour for a Muslim woman!

 

The Qur'an clearly indicates that marriage is sharing between the two halves of the society, and that its objectives, beside perpetuating human life, are emotional well-being and spiritual harmony. Its bases are love and mercy.

 

Among the most impressive verses in the Qur'an about marriage is the following:“ And among His Signs is this, that He created for you wives from among yourselves, that you may find repose in them, and He has put between you affection and mercy. Verily, in that are indeed signs for a people who reflect” (Qur'an 30:21).

 

“ O Mankind! Be dutiful to your Lord, who created you from a single person (Adam) , and from him (Adam) He created his wife [Hawwa (Eve)], and from them both He created many men and women; and fear Allah through Whom you demand (your mutual rights), and (do not cut the relations of) the wombs (kinship). Surely Allah is Even an All-Watcher over you” (Qur'an 4:1)[18].

 

A scholar who pondered about this verse states: "It is believed that there is no text, old or new, that deals with the humanity of the woman from all aspects with such amazing brevity, eloquence, depth, and originality as this divine decree ".

 

Stressing this noble and natural conception, the Qur'an states:“ It is He Who has created you from a single person (Adam), and (then) He has created from him his wife [Hawwa (Eve)], in order that he might enjoy the pleasure of living with her. When he had sexual relation with her, she became pregnant and she carried it about lightly. Then when it became heavy, they both invoked Allah their Lord (sayin): " If You give us a Salih (good in every aspect) child, we shall indeed be among the grateful” (Qur'an 7:189).

 

“ The Creator of the heavens and the earth. He has made for you mates from yourselves, and for the cattle (also) mates. By this means He creates you (in the wombs). There is nothing like Him; and He is the All-Hearer, the All-Seer” (Qur'an 42:11).

 

“ And Allah has made for you Azwaj (mates or wives) of your own kind, and has made for you, from your wives, sons and grandsons, and has bestowed on you good provision. Do they then believe in false deities and deny the Favour of Allah (by not worshipping Allah alone)” (Qur'an 16:72).

 

 

IV/34: Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other.. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them.

 

First point to notice here is that Quran clearly states that Men are superior to women. Secondly, Islam instructs that a man should control his women through brutal violence and fear.

 

The Qur'an states:“ And they (women) have rights similar to those (of men) over them, and men are a degree above them” (Qur'an 2:228).

 

Such a degree is Quiwama (maintenance and protection). This refers to that natural difference between the sexes which entitles the weaker sex to protection. It implies no superiority or advantage before the law. Yet, man's role of leadership in relation to his family does not mean the husband's dictatorship over his wife. Islam emphasizes the importance of taking counsel and mutual agreement in family decisions. The Qur'an fives us an example:“ . . . If they (husband wife) desire to wean the child by mutual; consent and (after) consultation, there is no blame on them . . .” (Qur'an 2:233).

 

Over and above her basic rights as a wife comes the right which is emphasized by the Qur'an and is strongly recommended by the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him); kind treatment and companionship.

 

The Qur'an states:“. . . But consort with them in kindness, for if you hate them it may happen that you hate a thing wherein God has placed much good” (Qur'an 4:19).

 

Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said:“ The best of you is the best to his family and I am the best among you to my family”.

 

“ The most perfect believers are the best in conduct and best of you are those who are best to their wives” (Ibn Hanbal, No.7396).

 

 

 

IV/15: (For women) If any one of your women is guilty of lewdness ...confine them until death claims them.

 

IV/16: (For Men) If two men among you commit indecency (sodomy) punish them both. If they repent and mend their ways, let them be. Allah is forgiving and merciful.

 

As you can see, for women any sort of sexual exploration is punishable by death. Whereas for a man, any form of perversion is pardoned by the all merciful Allah.

 

Lets us study the Holy Quran :

 

004.013 Those are limits set by Allah: those who obey Allah and His Messenger will be admitted to Gardens with rivers flowing beneath, to abide therein (for ever) and that will be the supreme achievement.

 

004.014 But those who disobey Allah and His Messenger and transgress His limits will be admitted to a Fire, to abide therein: And they shall have a humiliating punishment.

 

004.015

YUSUFALI: If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, Take the evidence of four (Reliable) witnesses from amongst you against them; and if they testify, confine them to houses until death do claim them, or Allah ordain for them some (other) way.

 

PICKTHAL: As for those of your women who are guilty of lewdness, call to witness four of you against them. And if they testify (to the truth of the allegation) then confine them to the houses until death take them or (until) Allah appoint for them a way (through new legislation).

 

SHAKIR: And as for those who are guilty of an indecency from among your women, call to witnesses against them four (witnesses) from among you; then if they bear witness confine them to the houses until death takes them away or Allah opens some way for them.

 

004.016 If two men among you are guilty of lewdness, punish them both. If they repent and amend, Leave them alone; for Allah is Oft-returning, Most Merciful.

 

004.017 Allah accept the repentance of those who do evil in ignorance and repent soon afterwards; to them will Allah turn in mercy: For Allah is full of knowledge and wisdom.

 

XXIV/6-7: As for those who accuse their wives but have no witnesses except themselves , let the testimony of one of them be four testimonies...

 

Here we see, that a husband can easily accuse his wife (or wives) and eventually sentence her to death by merely declaring four times that the accusation is true. On the other hand, women have no such right in Islam.

 

Only ignorant people make the allegation above !

 

Thanks

 

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Lets us see how Christianity and Islam treat women:

 

Christianity and Judaism:

 

In fact, the difference between the Biblical and the Quranic attitude towards the female sex starts as soon as a female is born. For example, the Bible states that the period of the mother's ritual impurity is twice as long if a girl is born than if a boy is (Lev. 12:2-5). The Catholic Bible states explicitly that:

 

"The birth of a daughter is a loss" (Ecclesiasticus 22:3).

 

In contrast to this shocking statement, boys receive special praise:

 

"A man who educates his son will be the envy of his enemy." (Ecclesiasticus 30:3)

 

Jewish Rabbis made it an obligation on Jewish men to produce offspring in order to propagate the race. At the same time, they did not hide their clear preference for male children : "It is well for those whose children are male but ill for those whose are female", "At the birth of a boy, all are joyful...at the birth of a girl all are sorrowful", and "When a boy comes into the world, peace comes into the world... When a girl comes, nothing comes." (Source: Leonard J. Swidler, Women in Judaism: the Status of Women in Formative Judaism (Metuchen, N.J: Scarecrow Press, 1976) p. 115)

 

A daughter is considered a painful burden, a potential source of shame to her father:

 

"Your daughter is headstrong? Keep a sharp look-out that she does not make you the laughing stock of your enemies, the talk of the town, the object of common gossip, and put you to public shame" (Ecclesiasticus 42:11).

 

"Keep a headstrong daughter under firm control, or she will abuse any indulgence she receives. Keep a strict watch on her shameless eye, do not be surprised if she disgraces you" (Ecclesiasticus 26:10-11).

 

Islam:

 

The Quran makes no distinction between boys and girls. In contrast to the Bible, the Quran considers the birth of a female as a gift and a blessing from God, the same as the birth of a male. The Quran even mentions the gift of the female birth first:

 

" To Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth. He creates what He wills. He bestows female children to whomever He wills and bestows male children to whomever He wills" (The Quran 42:49).

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Assalamu Alaykum wa Rahmatullahee wa Barakatu

 

We are always here to help you out.

 

 

In Western Societies it is still very common to spank children, especially the Watchtower Society. I find many times that people who spank their children at home are to the same time complaining about the above mentioned verse regarding striking an adult woman. Children are much weaker than adult women, but to spank them is something that can be overlooked. Furthermore, the way children are spanked in Non-Muslim societies and, unfortunately, some Muslim societies who adopted the traditions of the societies who colonialized their lands, is very painful and leave marks on their bodies and psychology.

 

According to Islamic Sharee'ah neither children nor wives are spanked in such a painful manner. Sometimes, you may come across a hadd punishment such as 80 lashes for this or that. Even this lashing is not really brutal nor hurtful. You may think that they flog the criminal with whips until their backs carry wounds, but this is not the case. The lashing is not really lashing but light spanking with hurts a little bit.

 

When you see flogging in Qur'an then don't think about whips and severe torture, but it is a light caning. Even caning sound too harsh for this punishment. My shaykh witnessed how this "flogging" or "lashing" is performed. They use a very long bendable rod. The spanker did not swing the arm to spank the spankee. The spankee almost does not feel anything because the blow is not very strong. The spanker carried the flexible stick underneath the armpit and he had to move the entire body to spank

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assalaam alikum

Quotes from the "Holy" Quran on Women

II/223: Your women are a tilth for you (to cultivate). So go to your tilth as ye will..

 

Here you can clearly see how highly Islam treats women. Women in Islam are referred to as fields that are to be cultivated by man. What an honour for a Muslim woman!

 

you would not want your seed to be cultivated to a bad tree.a good tree can only grow on a good field.

 

what do you understand from this sentence?there are two meanings to this sentence,the inner one and an outer meaning.those who think deeply with an open mind about it migh tunderstand its deep inner meaning.here i meant say that good children could only be grown if he or she is acompanied with a good mother.here the child is compared to a tree.

if we think the way your non-muslim friends think,then this is something we should report to the childrens' rights unit.Oh-my_God they are being compared to tress!!!!are they trees?no right?like wise there is an inner meaning to the aayat you have qouted above.

 

Your wives are a tilth for you, so go into your tilth when you like, and do good beforehand for yourselves, and be careful (of your duty) to Allah, and know that you will meet Him, and give good news to the believers.

this is the full translation of the aayat by shakir.

here you can see that Allah (swt) says that we are to meet Him and to do good to ourselves.if our husbands treat us like we are not thier wives and dont give our rights then they are not doing good to themselves.and they will have to pay for it.our prophet (saw)has said the best of you is the one who treats his wife the best.this hadhith has been mentioned before in this thread.

 

IV/15: (For women) If any one of your women is guilty of lewdness ...confine them until death claims them.

 

IV/16: (For Men) If two men among you commit indecency (sodomy) punish them both. If they repent and mend their ways, let them be. Allah is forgiving and merciful.

 

As you can see, for women any sort of sexual exploration is punishable by death. Whereas for a man, any form of perversion is pardoned by the all merciful Allah.

does the person who is misquoting this aayat know what the ulama say about people who commit sodomy.as usual the Quran is not something which can be understood without the sunnah of prophet muhamed (saw).some of the ulama says that the punishment of sodomy is same as committing adultery ie;death for a married/divorced/widowed person.some suggest very sever punishment for this.

 

XXIV/6-7: As for those who accuse their wives but have no witnesses except themselves , let the testimony of one of them be four testimonies...

Here we see, that a husband can easily accuse his wife (or wives) and eventually sentence her to death by merely declaring four times that the accusation is true. On the other hand, women have no such right in Islam.

 

i dont think i understand fully what you meant to say.if a husband accuses his wife of adultery he should bring forth solid proof.that is four witnesses or the wife should agree to what she has been accused of that it is true.if not,the husband gets punished for giving a false accusation.

 

i wopuld like to add that if a wife is being mistreated the Islamic sharia gives her the right to get divorced through court-she is not a slave of the husband.

 

salam

Edited by haw_wa

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