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Much as I would hate to live in a world ruled by a single group, if it had to happen I'd much prefer to live in a world run by Jews than Muslims. or Christians, for that matter. A Hindu-ruled world would be fun, though.So many choices...

as we are not really that fond of your lifestyle, it might be a good decision for all of us.

 

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Published on Monday, June 9, 2008 by CommonDreams(contact admin if its a beneficial link)

 

US Military's Middle East Crusade for Christ

by Robert Weitzel

 

"They are proselytizing not on behalf of the Constitution of the United States . . . but rather on behalf of some sort of fanatical view of end times. And they are using our army to affect that." -Former Ambassador Joseph Wilson

 

Last August the watchdog group Military Religious Freedom Foundation foiled a Pentagon plan that would have allowed the shipment of "freedom packages" to soldiers and Marines in Iraq. The parcels were put together by the fundamentalist Christian ministry, Straight Up, and contained Bibles, proselytizing tracts in English and Arabic, and the apocalyptic "Left Behind" computer game, in which Christian Tribulation forces convert or kill infidels-nonbelievers, Muslims and Jews.

 

On May 1 the Senate approved the promotion of Brigadier General Robert L. Caslen Jr. to Major General. Currently the commandant of cadets at West Point, he will become the commander of the 25th Infantry Division. He is also president of the stridently fundamentalist Officer's Christian Fellowship, whose vision is a "spiritually transformed military, with ambassadors for Christ in uniform, empowered by the Holy Spirit."

 

General Caslen was promoted despite the Defense Department's recommended disciplinary action against him and several other senior military leaders because they had "improperly endorsed and participated with a nonfederal entity while in uniform" by participating in a promotional video for the Campus Crusade For Christ's Christian Embassy, an evangelical organization that ministers to Beltway politicians and sponsors weekly Bible studies at the Pentagon.

 

According to the DoD Inspector General's report, one of the generals involved "asserted that Christian Embassy was treated as an instrumentality of the Pentagon Chaplain's office for over 25 years, and had effectively become a 'quasi federal entity.'" Arguably, he believed his participation in the video was in the line of duty.

 

Considering both the Pentagon's evangelical proclivity and a 2006 Pew survey which found that of the major religious groups in America, evangelicals have the most negative views of Islam and Muslims, the U.S. sniper who was recently caught using the Quran for target practice in the Baghdad neighborhood of Radhwaniya might be excused for thinking the book was a legitimate target upon which to perfect his craft . . . excused for thinking he was acting in the line duty.

 

And is it any wonder that with evangelicals and fundamentalists at the very top of the military's officer corps -- to say nothing of their Commander in Chief -- that an enlisted Marine was passing out Christian "witnessing coins" inscribed in Arabic at a checkpoint in Fallujah? One side of the coin asked, "Where will you spend eternity?" An evangelical favorite, John 3:16, was on the flip side.

 

Sheik Adul-Rahman al-Zubaie, a tribal leader in Fallujah who was outraged by the Marine's proselytizing said, "This event did not happen by chance, but it was planned and done intentionally."

 

While the Marine's proselytizing is not the official policy of the predominately Christian force occupying the predominately Islamic Iraq, it was done "in the line of duty" with a wink and a nod from his chain of command. Think Abu Ghraib!

 

From Fort Jackson, the Army's largest basic training facility, where trainees are encouraged to attend Campus Crusade's weekly "God's Basic Training" programs, to the U.S. Air Force Academy where students are pressured to attend the Crusade's weekly "cru" (short for crusade) Bible study, American military personnel are, as Campus Crusade's Scot Blom gloats, "government paid missionaries" when they complete their training.

 

As the demands of fighting a perpetual war against "radical Islam" begins to strain both the military's resources and the country's resolve, the Pentagon has begun outsourcing larger chunks of the war to private contractors. Predictably, our "government paid missionaries" have become more expensive and much less controllable or accountable.

 

The Bush administration's favorite contractor, Blackwater, is the most powerful private army in the world. It commands thousands of mercenaries in Iraq and Afghanistan, has over a billion dollars in government contracts, and enjoys complete immunity from prosecution for its theater of operations' conduct.

 

Blackwater's founder, Erik Prince, a staunchly conservative Catholic, has also served on the board of directors of Christian Freedom International, a crusading missionary organization operating in the overwhelmingly Islamic countries of Sudan, Somalia, Afghanistan and Iraq. Prince envisions an evangelical "end time" role for his warriors: "Everybody carries guns, just like Jeremiah rebuilding the temple in israel -- a sword in one hand and a trowel in the other."

 

No one in the last decade has contributed more to end time, apocalyptic evangelism than John Hagee, a televangelist seen by millions of viewers weekly and pastor of the 19,000-member Cornerstone Church. Hagee preaches that in order to bring about the Second Coming of Christ and the Rapture of true believers, Islam first has to be destroyed.

 

In a 2006 interview with National Public Radio's Terry Gross, Hagee told her, "Those who live by the Quran have a scriptural mandate to kill Christians and Jews." He went on to claim that there are 200 million Muslims waiting for the chance to attack israel and the United States. From his pulpit, Hagee makes it clear to his congregation and the radio and television audience what they can expect from American Muslims if such an attack ever took place: "While American Muslims live in America, 82 percent are not loyal to America and are not willing to fight and defend America."

 

In his book, "Jerusalem Countdown - A Warning to the World," Hagee warns that the war between Islam and the West "is a war that Islam cannot and must not win."

 

John Hagee is not just a mad evangelizing prophet. He is the mad evangelizing prophet who is courted by a war president, a hawkish presidential candidate and members of Congress from both parties. His Islamophobic bilge has trickled down from Capital Hill, through the labyrinthine corridors of the Pentagon, and into the chamber of a sniper's rifle and the hand of a Marine guarding a checkpoint in Fallujah.

 

Officers in the military are expected to lead by example. Enlisted personnel are expected to follow that example. If the recent incidents at Radhwaniya and Fallujah are not just the acts of renegades, then the chain of command seems to be working the way it was designed.

 

Robert Weitzel is a contributing editor to Media With a Conscience. His essays regularly appear in The Capital Times in Madison, WI. He can be contacted at: robertweitzel[at]mac(contact admin if its a beneficial link)

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No one in the last decade has contributed more to end time, apocalyptic evangelism than John Hagee, a televangelist seen by millions of viewers weekly and pastor of the 19,000-member Cornerstone Church. Hagee preaches that in order to bring about the Second Coming of Christ and the Rapture of true believers, Islam first has to be destroyed.

 

John Hagee is just one of the corrupt immoral bloodthirsty Christian missionaries who are inventing baseless fairy tales to slander, insult, frame, blame and demonize Islam and Muslims. Their brutal barbaric objective is to pit Christians against Islam so that Christians and Muslims would kill each other in the name of Jesus and Zionism.

 

Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. The Holy Quran 2:62

 

Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. The Holy Quran 2:256

 

The fact is Islam, a religion of mercy, does not permit terrorism. In the Quran, God has said:

 

God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (Quran, 60:8)

 

The Prophet Muhammad used to prohibit soldiers from killing women and children,1 and he would advise them: ...Do not betray, do not be excessive, do not kill a newborn child. And he also said: Whoever has killed a person having a treaty with the Muslims shall not smell the fragrance of Paradise, though its fragrance is found for a span of forty years.

 

Also, the Prophet Muhammad has forbidden punishment with fire.

 

He once listed murder as the second of the major sins, and he even warned that on the Day of Judgment, The first cases to be adjudicated between people on the Day of Judgment will be those of bloodshed.

 

In light of these and other Islamic texts, the act of inciting terror in the hearts of defenseless civilians, the wholesale destruction of buildings and properties, the bombing and maiming of innocent men, women, and children are all forbidden and detestable acts according to Islam and the Muslims. Muslims follow a religion of peace, mercy, and forgiveness, and the vast majority have nothing to do with the violent events some have associated with Muslims. If an individual Muslim were to commit an act of terrorism, this person would be guilty of violating the laws of Islam.

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The Crusade against Iraqi Muslims

 

Christians are being indoctrinated and brainwashed into brain-dead zombies by the corrupt immoral Christian missionaries, brutal Christian generals, Christian media and hypocritical Christian leaders to hate, demonize, degrade, insult, frame and slander Islam and Muslims.

 

 

The fact is it is the Bible that promotes terrorism:

 

Kill Nonbelievers

 

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

 

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

 

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

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Hmm, apparently you can't quote reported posts. Here it is again:

 

I wonder what it is that Muslims are waging? Muslims are killing Muslims in large numbers in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Sudan, Algeria, Morocco, etc. There's really no need for a Crusade - Muslims are doing all the work just fine.

 

Simple statement of fact. And an implicit agreement with ######'s deranged view that Christians are trying to kill all Muslims. Where's the problem?

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I would like to advice everyone to strive to keep a friendly atmosphere.

 

Salam.

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Christians are indoctrinated and brainwashed into brain-dead zombies by the corrupt immoral Christian missionaries, brutal Christian generals and hypocritical Christian leaders to hate, demonize, degrade, insult, frame and slander Islam and Muslims.

 

The fact is it is the Bible that promotes terrorism:

 

Kill Nonbelievers

 

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

TO THE MODERATORS :

WHY is it that ###### can make statements like this about Christianity ???

 

The Bible Promotes Terrorism ? Christians are brainwashed zombies ???

What if someone said the same about the Q'uran ? And muslims ?

Would you edit the post and ban the poster ???

It looks to me like there is a GLARING DOUBLE-STANDARD here .

'Tropicali' aka Banjo aka Makko,

 

My statements are based on the sayings of Christian leaders, generals, missionaries etc and the words of the Bible. Are you saying that I cannot expose the dark side of Christians and Christianity etc?

 

Is it wrong for me to expose the Spanish Inquisition during which the Christians forced Muslims and Jews to convert to Christianity at the sword points and seized Masjids and turned them into churches in Spain?

 

How about the brainwashed Christian zombies who insult, slander, frame and degrade Islam and Muslims in my Post #33?

 

How about the Christian soldiers and Christian mercenaries who are illegally occupying and destroying Muslim countries and terrorizing, molesting, raping, torturing, murdering or massacring innocent Muslim infants, toddlers, children, women, unarmed men, elderly people and plundering vast petroleum reserve in Iraq etc?

 

How about the Christian soldiers who are desecrating the Holy Quran and Masjids in Iraq, Afghanistan, Guantanamoa etc?

 

How about the Christian forces using WMDs to destroy civilian targets and kill innocent civilians in Muslim countries?

 

How about the soulless Christian agents of CIA etc who are busy torturing and framing innocent Muslims all over the world?

 

How about Bush and other US leaders who are waging the Crusade War against Muslims in Muslim countries?

 

How about the Christian organizations, church and their Christian missionaries that are busy insulting, slandering, framing, degrading the prophet Muhammad, Islam, Allah and Muslims?

 

How about the Christian media that invent baseless fairy tales to demonize Islam and Muslims?

 

How about Pope Benedict XVI who insult, degrade and slander Islam and the prophet Muhammad? Is he above Jesus?

 

How about Pope Urban II who preached the First Crusade that caused the brutal barbaric Christian crusaders to slaughter so many innocent Muslims, Jews and Eastern Christians in Jerusalem?

 

It looks to me that you 'Tropicali' are practising a GLARING DOUBLE-STANDARD here . Why don't you condemn the Christian terrorism against Muslim instead of defending the Christian atrocities in Muslim countries?

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Frontline

Volume 25 - Issue 19 :: Sep. 13-26, 2008

INDIA'S NATIONAL MAGAZINE

 

 

WORLD AFFAIRS

 

American terror

 

JOHN CHERIAN

 

The U.N. has confirmed that at least 90 civilians were killed in the U.S. air attack in Herat province in the third week of August.

 

YET another attack by the United States Air Force on suspected Taliban hideouts has resulted in the death of innocent civilians. In one of the worst US atrocities witnessed so far after the U.S. occupation of Afghanistan in 2001, at least 90 civilians were killed in an air strike on Azizabad village in Herat province on August 22. The victims had gathered there to commemorate the death of a local leader, and according to the government of Afghanistan, 50 of those killed were under the age of 15. Reports said the attack was carried out by a US AC-130 gunship.

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The Crusade War: The brutal barbaric Christian forces are destroying Masjids in Iraq. We can hear the American ###### laughing while they are destroying the Masjids.

 

 

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I wonder what it is that Muslims are waging? Muslims are killing Muslims in large numbers in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Sudan, Algeria, Morocco, etc. There's really no need for a Crusade - Muslims are doing all the work just fine.

 

Hmm, apparently you can't quote reported posts. Here it is again:

 

I wonder what it is that Muslims are waging? Muslims are killing Muslims in large numbers in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Sudan, Algeria, Morocco, etc. There's really no need for a Crusade - Muslims are doing all the work just fine.

 

Simple statement of fact. And an implicit agreement with ######'s deranged view that Christians are trying to kill all Muslims. Where's the problem?

 

The fact is some Muslim governments are being controlled and manipulated by highly traitorous hypocrites who are the US puppets. They serve the US regime and israeli regime of terror not the well-being of the Muslims and Muslim countries. The US-Zionist regime use them to intimidate, persecute and terrorize innocent Muslims who want to liberate their Muslim countries from the Western imperialism. The innocent Muslims as the citizens of Muslim countries have their right to overthrow the traitors and their masters peacefully or forcefully to save protect innocent Muslims and protect the sovereignty of Muslim countries.

 

The traitors are not Muslims for they are cooperating and conspiring with the enemies of Islam to intimidate, persecute and terrorize innocent Muslims in Muslim countries. Therefore, I am not surprised to see the US puppet regimes in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia etc terrorize innocent Muslims on behalf of their Zionist masters in the White House.

 

However, the US imperialism and U.S. foreign interventions are responsible for the deaths of millions of innocent Muslims in Muslim countries when the barbaric US regime and its allies and proxies attack, invade and occupy Muslim countries, use WMDs destroy civilian targets and intimidate, persecute, rape, torture and massacre innocent Muslim infants, children, women, elderly people, unarmed men etc.

 

First the U.S. military-government committed the September 11 attacks, then it set out to “fight terrorism” by committing further acts of massive, brutal terrorism against civilian men, women and children. While Unpresident Bush and the corporate mass-media trumpeted day and night that America was fighting a heroic war of “good vs. evil”, the evil U.S. military mass-murdered thousands of impoverished Afghan people — civilian men, women and children — who had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the September 11 attacks.

 

Once again, American state terrorists used cluster bombs, depleted uranium missiles, fuel-air bombs, napalm and cruise missiles to do their dirty work from a safe distance. They also dropped thermobaric bombs to suffocate people hiding in caves and used attack helicopters to gun down women and children who were running for their lives. The takeover of Afghanistan also increases the encirclement of Iran and Iraq, tightening the noose around these pockets of resistance to American domination. The U.S. military-government is permanently at war with the world’s people, and when you are at war you don’t tolerate pockets of resistance. The message to all the world is this: surrender unconditionally to Uncle Sham — or get the same brutal treatment as the people of Somalia, Iraq and Afghanistan.

Iraq 1991-2003: American/British State Terrorism of the Iraqi People

 

Estimated total civilian deaths: at least 200,000 people directly from the US 1991 terror campaign. 177 million pounds of bombs were dropped by the US Air Force on the people of Iraq in the most concentrated aerial bombardment in the history of the world. The Dutch Laka Foundation estimates that this particular U.S. terror campaign left behind 300-800 tons of radioactive waste from the US depleted uranium ammunition all over Kuwait and Iraq — poisoning the air, the land, the water and the people everywhere.

 

Afterwards, wherever the depleted uranium firing had been concentrated, there were cancer epidemics among Iraqi civilians living nearby. In the ten years since, sanctions, bacteria-laden water and depleted uranium together have killed somewhere between 1,000,000 and 2,000,000 Iraqi civilians. Most of the victims were, and are, children.

 

Since the American terror campaign, thousands of Iraqi babies have been born with horrible birth defects. This is something that has never before been seen in Iraq.

 

More than 120,000 American Gulf War veterans are chronically ill — suffering from Gulf War Syndrome. A U.S. Department of Veterans study of 251 veterans’ families found that 67% had children with severe illnesses or birth defects.

 

Even the United Nations estimates that over one million Iraqi civilians, including 600,000 children below the age of five have died as a result of diseases from polluted water — and the American sanctions which deny them the needed medicines.

 

In 2003 the utterly satanic U.S. military-government has mass-murdered tens of thousands more innocent Iraqi people in the course of a brutal invasion and occupation.

 

First the American state terrorists pretended they had to invade Iraq because Saddam Hussein allegedly possessed what the U.S. has more of than any other nation in the world: “weapons of mass destruction”. When these could not be found by U.N. weapons inspectors, American/British propaganda shifted to the oft-visited realm of the surreal: “liberation” of the Iraqi people by bombing, invading and mass-murdering them.

 

Once again, American/British war criminals have used cluster bombs, depleted uranium missiles and all kinds of other horrible weapons to “liberate” thousands of Iraqi people from their lives and loved ones.

 

Only the most idiotic and corrupt people could possibly believe the absurd lies of the U.S. government. Unfortunately, there are evil morons in America, and America’s rulers have always banked on that fact. However, there are some good Americans who oppose the US imperialism.

 

$$ Oil is one of three major reasons for mass-murdering the Iraqi people again.

 

All industrial economies and militaries run on oil. Therefore control of the world’s oil reserves is essential for America’s military and economic dominance. Oil is past its peak of production, and America’s titanic economy is in BIG trouble, plowing full speed ahead toward its icy doom. When it finally sinks, so will America’s political and military power. The brutal invasion and occupation of Iraq is a desperate move by the American plutocracy to cling to power.

 

The second reason for the invasion involves the American domination of Europe. Iraq had shifted to using the euro for all oil payments, and the U.S. will now force it to use the dollar again. America’s latest attack on the Iraqi people is actually part of an ongoing economic war against Europe. Now that America has total control of Persian Gulf oil it has a stranglehold on the economies of the European Union, which depend on Persian Gulf oil most of all.

 

“Fighting Moslem terrorists” is a propaganda cover for U.S. imperialism. It is in fact the E.U. which is seen by the American plutocracy as the greatest threat in the world to its imperial dominance. Since America’s evil, blood-soaked economy is steadily sinking, the E.U. could eventually replace it as the world’s greatest power. The E.U. would be totally invincible with the addition of Russia, which is forming closer ties with its European neighbors.

 

The threat of a dominant “Eurasian power” is something American geopolitical strategists have feared for over a hundred years. The literally satanic American plutocracy is determined to prevent this by any and all means, no matter how many innocent people have to die.

 

israel is the third major reason America has invaded and occupied Iraq. The terrorist state of israel is afraid of having a powerful Arab country nearby which isn’t subservient to the U.S., as is the whoring government of Egypt. The United States of America has long been controlled by a Zionist-Jewish banking plutocracy, and these Zionazis consider israel as their baby. Everything must be sacrificed to protect evil, vicious little israel, including American and Iraqi lives.

 

Jewish-Zionists are deeply and unashamedly racist. They see all “goyim” — their sneering term for Gentiles — as being racially inferior, of no importance and deserving of no rights. They would never admit this publicly, of course, but check out the Talmud. The Torah and the Talmud are the two major books of Judaism. The Talmud, a so-called “holy book”, actually contains obscene and blatantly racist passages regarding “goyim”. Arising out of Talmudic Judaism, Zionism is a mirror image of Naziism. The biggest difference is that Zionists have always been much more stealthy about their obscene racism. Zionism is Jewish Naziism.

 

The Zionist-controlled, corporate mass-media is a gigantic, all-pervading lie-machine. Planned U.S. government propaganda campaigns, both domestic and international, are usually very sophisticated operations, drawing on the expertise of the CIA, professional psychologists and highly skilled, highly paid, PR firms. Given enough time, they can plan things meticulously, patching up all the holes and contradictions in their stories, manufacturing “evidence”, framing individuals, groups and even whole nations, buying off everyone who can be bought, and blackmailing, firing or murdering, if necessary, anyone who can’t be bought. And most importantly of all, making sure that the corporate mass-media will obediently toe the line since it will be the primary conduit for the propaganda.

 

And you packham are just a part of the Zionist propaganda to slander and frame Muslims to condone the US-Zionist crimes against Muslims.

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I missed this piece of, to use ######'s favourite expression LIES AND SLANDER!!!!!

 

Afghanistan was

attacked by the largest coalition in the history of mankind of Kaffirs from all over the world.Europe,america,canada,australia,Russia,Israe

 

You seem to think that the "history of mankind" began in about 1946.

 

Really, if you believe this sort of garbage how on earth are we to take seriously anything you say about anything else?

 

###### - good to know that the government of Sudan are US puppets. You must be pleased that the ICC is considering charging the US puppet president with crimes against humanity.

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I missed this piece of, to use ######'s favourite expression LIES AND SLANDER!!!!!

 

You packham are just a part of Zionist propaganda to slander and frame Muslims and Islam. Your posts reflect the Zionist fairy tales and you always repeat your favorite post to brainwash me in vain. Why don't you condemn the US terrorism and the Zionist crime against humanity? I know you will not condemn the US and Zionist regimes because you support their terrorism and crime against humanity. The fact is you never condemn them because you are just a part of them.

 

Afghanistan was

 

attacked by the largest coalition in the history of mankind of Kaffirs from all over the world.Europe,america,canada,australia,Russia,Israe

 

So you invent a quote to frame me in vain. Your Zionist deception and deceit do not work here. I am very familiar with the dirty brutal Zionist methods that Zionists use to frame innocent people.

You seem to think that the "history of mankind" began in about 1946.

 

lol.....I am surprised to know that your Zionist historians teach you that the "history of mankind" began in about 1946.

 

Really, if you believe this sort of garbage how on earth are we to take seriously anything you say about anything else?

 

Then why do you Zionists take seriously anything I say? Am I a threat to Zionist deceit and deception?

 

###### - good to know that the government of Sudan are US puppets.

 

Lol.....your Zionist masters tell you that the government of Sudan are US puppets. I am sure that they are going to tell you that Martians are Zionist puppets too. What a joke!

 

You must be pleased that the ICC is considering charging the US puppet president with crimes against humanity.

 

I must be very pleased to know that the ICC is highly hypocritical for condoning the brutal war crimes committed by GW Bush, Blair, Howard, Sharon, Olmert etc. In other word, ICC has insulted itself by becoming the US-Zionist whore to frame any persons who disagree with the US-Zionist regime!

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So you invent a quote to frame me in vain. Your Zionist deception and deceit do not work here. I am very familiar with the dirty brutal Zionist methods that Zionists use to frame innocent people.

 

It's from post #23 on this page. I didn't say it was written by you.

 

Lol.....your Zionist masters tell you that the government of Sudan are US puppets. I am sure that they are going to tell you that Martians are Zionist puppets too. What a joke!

 

But but - aren't all the Muslim governments which slaughter Muslims US puppets?

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It's from post #23 on this page. I didn't say it was written by you.

 

I have checked your post #23 and I find that you are a shameless liar.

 

You are trying to mislead the readers of your Post #45 to believe falsely that the quote was written by me. Why don't you mention your ID in your own quote so the readers would know that it was your quote?

 

But but - aren't all the Muslim governments which slaughter Muslims US puppets?

 

Do you understand English? I am sure that your English comprehension is very bad.

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Utah soldier: 'I wanted them dead'

Mom shocked her son stood watch as 4 Iraqi prisoners were executed

 

By María Villaseñor

and Matthew D. LaPlante

The Salt Lake Tribune

Article Last Updated: 09/19/2008 02:07:51 AM MDT

 

CLEARFIELD - Victoria Ramos understood the stakes.

 

Her husband had served for decades in the Chilean army before immigrating with his family to the United States in the mid-1990s. Now her son was serving his country in Iraq. And she knew what that could mean.

 

"When he left to Iraq, we knew there was a possibility that we could lose our boy," Ramos said Thursday in her Clearfield home.

 

But Ramos said she could not possibly have imagined the news she received this week.

 

In a stark courtroom at an Army base in eastern Germany on Thursday, Spc. Belmor Ramos pleaded guilty to participating in the murder of four Iraqis. The one-time student commander of Clearfield High School's Junior Reserve Officer Training Corps program told a military judge that he stood watch while his comrades executed the bound and blindfolded Iraqi men.

 

"I wanted them dead," the 23-year-old soldier told the court. "I had no legal justification or excuse to do this."

 

Ramos was sentenced to just seven months in prison as part of a deal that will require him to testify against the other soldiers involved in the killings, which took place in the spring of 2007 near Baghdad.

 

That was one of the deadliest periods for U.S. soldiers in the Iraq war. And prosecutors said the killings were in retribution for casualties suffered by members of Ramos' unit.

 

According to testimony in earlier hearings, the Iraqis had been taken prisoner following a shootout with Iraqi patriots. After a brief visit to a forward operating base near Baghdad, the soldiers took the four men out to a remote location, shot each one in the head, and dumped the bodies in a Baghdad canal.

 

On Thursday, Belmor Ramos told Judge Lt. Col. Edward O'Brien that he didn't kill the men. But Ramos admitted that he consented to the executions, stood guard and heard the shots.

 

Ramos had faced life in prison for his part in the killings. O'Brien told the defendant that he would have sentenced him to 40 years if not for the plea agreement.

 

Victoria Ramos had learned earlier this month that her son had faced some problems in Iraq, but didn't know the extent of those troubles until she returned home from a visit to relatives in Chile on Wednesday.

 

"It was terrible news," she said with tears in her eyes.

 

After serving his prison sentence and testifying against the other soldiers, Belmor Ramos will be dishonorably discharged from the Army and likely will return to Utah.

 

* The Associated Press contributed to this report.

 

Conclusion: The US soldiers etc are brutal, sadistic, barbaric and psychotic terrorists who terrorize, rape, torture, murder or massacre innocent defenseless Iraqi infants, children, women, elderly people, unarmed men etc. It seems to me that Christian tree has born very bad Christian fruits

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1 hour, 2 minutes ago Today

 

The U.S. troops have massacred four Iraqi men and three women and destroyed their home in the Sunni town of Adwar, Iraq. Iraqi officials and neighbors say the family had no connection to the insurgency.

 

The Christian soldiers are the product of the teachings of the Bible:

 

"And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain." (Deuteronomy 2:34)

 

"And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Hesbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city. But all the cattle, and the spoil of the cities we took for a prey to ourselves." (Deuteronomy 3:6-7)

 

Such words helped give justification to mediaeval Crusaders who slaughtered men, women and children along their way to Jerusalem and stole the spoils of the cities. Even today, many Christian military men use Scripture to justify their actions. If any soldier harbors doubt about killing his fellow humans, he need only consult a military chaplain or read the Bible to calm their worries. Even George Bush (the First), with Billy Graham beside him, proclaimed the Gulf War as "moral." George Bush (the Second) continued in his father's steps by killing thousands of Iraqi civilians in the Iraqi war. Such moral wars result in thousands of "utterly destroyed" innocent men, women and children.;

 

(For a few more examples [but not all] see also Deuteronomy 3:3, 7:2, 20:16-17 , 25:19; Joshua 6:21, 8:26, 10-28-40; Numbers 31:17-18; I Samuel 15:3; Isaiah 13:16; and Hosea 13:16)

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QUOTE Tesla

 

There is no "Crusade " ###### ....just war , and the cause politics and ideology . If there is religion involved , it is NOT on the part of the west .

 

Christian forces are attacking, destroying, invading, occupying and plundering Muslim countries and terrorizing, raping, torturing, murdering or massacring innocent defenseless Muslim infants, children, women, elderly people, unarmed men etc.

 

Yes it is a war, a Crusade war against innocent Muslims.

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