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Salaam,

 

I haven't visited this thread in a very long time. But what I continue to see is the fear, pain and anxiety people associate with magick. Much of what we as humans suffer can be explained by physical and medical means. There was a time when all illnesses and problems were explained by the workings of magick, hence we had witch doctors and spirit workers.

 

The human mind is a very poweful tool. Much of what people experience comes only from what they believe/feel. The Qur'an provides a clear example of this in the story of Musa/Moses and Phir'aun/pharaoh. The magicians of pharoah knew how to 'work magic' by playing with the minds of people, making them believe the rope they had thrown had actually become living snakes. Remember, these magicians were very adept in their profession and were thus able to strike some fear into the heart of Musa/Moses who himself was bewitched. But seeing as God knew better the staff of Moses became a true living snake which consumed the 'snakes' of the magicians. The magicians bowed down in submission as they knew very well what their 'magick' was (illusion/deception/mind-control) and what truly lay before them in the form of a miracle.

 

Magick does exist and is utilised by people for effects ON PEOPLE. It does not work on anything else. It is a mental/spritual tool. People who are willing to accept magick and accept that it may be influencing them will in fact be the only people on whom the magick actually works upon. So what then is the cure for the millions who claim to suffer under it? To free yourself from magick you must free yourself from magick. It sounds strange but it means to lose faith in the power of magick and to deny that it can have any effect on you. You must actually believe this. I am a former sorcerer. I will tell you once again that magick is a mental/spiritual tool used by men and jinns to manipulate each other. The tool can only be used effectively if it is allowed to influence. Magick is a confusing topic. It has to be believed in to work. When believed in, it works. When not believed, it fails to exist.

 

How then to reach such a state where you do not believe in the power of magick or accept that it can influence you? The Qur'an is a great source for all Muslims. Many wonder why recitation of surahs does not cure them. It is not the recitation which cures a person, I repeat it is not the recitation or the amulets full of words which can cure you. It is what is within those surahs. Read them carefully and ponder over the meanings/translations. It is supposed to make you realise that belief in Allah and trust in reality will free you from whatever magick may exist around you.

 

64:11 No misfortune strikes except with God's leave. And whosoever believes in God, He will guide his heart. And God is fully aware of all things.

 

7:115 They said: "O Moses, either you cast, or we will cast?"

7:116 He said: "You cast." So when they cast, they bewitched the eyes of the people, and struck terror in them, and they came with a great magic.

7:117 And We inspired Moses: "Throw down your staff;" and it swallowed what they invented.

7:118 Thus the truth was set, and what they did was made of no effect.

7:119 They were thus defeated there and then, and they turned in disgrace.

7:120 And the magicians went down prostrating.

7:121 They said: "We believe in the Lord of the worlds."

7:122 "The Lord of Moses and Aaron."

 

Peace

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Salam

 

Thanks for replying and for your advice.

I dont believe I;ve ever been fearful. But once it happened to me it was the worst time of my life and it had a bad effect on me so I guess I am just traumatized and I dont want it to happen again. I think know I know why the "baba" that I go to tries to make me think that Im 100% healed however I dont think I am yet but I do feel much better

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But he's not gone from me yet. I still feel him within me. Alhamdulillah, about a year ago I was totally drained of energy and subhanAllah now my energy is returning to me. I feel like I'm regaining posession of my body which often felt as though it was not mine.

 

Did you consult a psychiatrist or another specialist in this medical field? If Not do it before it gets worse!! Forget about all this jinn and blackmagic nonsense, you have a medical mental problem! This is not for any mullah or imam to fix.

 

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I will tell you once again that magick is a mental/spiritual tool used by men and jinns to manipulate each other. The tool can only be used effectively if it is allowed to influence. Magick is a confusing topic. It has to be believed in to work. When believed in, it works. When not believed, it fails to exist.

 

Agreed. So called "magic" doesn't exist , Islam is 100% against the existence of magic, it does not exist, Allah(swt) does not allow it. It doesnt work in any circumstance. It's just cultural bid'ah.

 

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Assalamu Alaikum wr wb,

There is proof in the Holy Qur'an that magic does exist and to deny its existance is to deny what is in the Qur'an.

 

Please see Al-Baqarah verse 102, a verse that proves that magic exists and that Satan taught people magic and taught what could separate between man and wife and do other harm.

 

I agree with Brother Insignia that one must block it out of his mind so to speak and not fear it. I do not believe that Bro Insignia was saying there is no such thing as magic. He was showing you that if you clear it from your mind and show no fear, then you have beaten it. Having a strong will power and reading Qur'an and relying solely on Allah the Allmighty is what beats it.

 

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Strange, but I did check on Islamonline(contact admin if its a beneficial link) and it seems that blackmagic does somewhat exist BUT IT CANNOT HURT MUSLIMS .

 

 

Anyways, you should stop worrying about all this magic mmambo jumbo and GO TO SEE A MENTAL HEALTH SPECIALIST. SCHITZOPHRENIA AND OTHER MENTAL DISEASES ARE NOT TO BE TAKEN LIGHTLY. This is a job for medical specialists not imams and shaykhs.

 

My family has had much of the same problems. Men in my family are genetically predisposed to mental illness and I tell you its not fun when you think angels are demons are talking through you. Go see a doctor for god's sakes.

 

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Strange, but I did check on Islamonline(contact admin if its a beneficial link) and it seems that blackmagic does somewhat exist BUT IT CANNOT HURT MUSLIMS .

Anyways, you should stop worrying about all this magic mmambo jumbo and GO TO SEE A MENTAL HEALTH SPECIALIST. SCHITZOPHRENIA AND OTHER MENTAL DISEASES ARE NOT TO BE TAKEN LIGHTLY. This is a job for medical specialists not imams and shaykhs.

 

My family has had much of the same problems. Men in my family are genetically predisposed to mental illness and I tell you its not fun when you think angels are demons are talking through you. Go see a doctor for god's sakes.

 

Peace

 

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Black magick does exist and it can hurt muslims;black magick was even used against the Prophet :D .

Though black magick exist it still doesn't mean that somebody can not be affected by mental diseases.

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Black magic DOES of course exist. If it didn not, why is it mentioned in the Quran? The prophet (saw) was even subjected to black magic. To disbelieve in magic is to disbelieve in the Quran. How can anyone say that it is "mambo jumbo"?

 

I would also like to make you aware of the fact that people who were diagnosed with schizophernia/split personality wre cure by Allah when Quran was recited over them. Their "split personality" is a result of jinn possession.

 

Personally, I have seen people who were possessed, and when Quran was recited over them, began yelling and pleading for mercy in another voice. I also know of people who suffered from black magic, who were Alhamdulillah cured with the noble Quran.

 

Read this following interview:

 

Location: Cairo

Date: 9/8/88

Name: ‘Abdul-Khaaliq al-‘Attaar

Date of Birth: 1920

Place of Birth: Cairo

Education: Law degree from Cairo University, 1950. Memorized complete Qur’aan and studied sharee‘ah at the College of Law.

 

Q. When and why did you begin to practice exorcism?

A. About forty years ago one of my sons was afflicted by the jinn – although I did not know it at the time – and his sickness became a major problem for me. I went to many psychiatrists, psychologists, neurologists, brain specialists and a variety of medical doctors for treatment. But after every visit to the medical specialists his sickness became worse. Around that time, I happened to be reading Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyyah’s book, Zaad al-Ma‘aad. In a chapter on the treatment of the possessed, I noticed that the symptoms of the possessed were the same as those shown by my son. The prescribed treatment mentioned in the chapter was the recitation of some Qur’ânic verses and prophetic supplications. So I recited over my son and he began to get better. His condition improved the more I recited until he became completely well – by the permission of Allaah. From that moment I felt a great desire to increase my knowledge of this science. Day and night I began to research the topic of the world of jinn, the devils and the angels. I read many books and many terrible ones. However – by the grace of Allaah – whenever I came across new information, I would not adopt it until after I had checked its authenticity based upon the Qur’aan and the Sunnah. What was confirmed, I accepted and what was not, I rejected. The correct information I recorded in my own notebooks until I had gathered many such notebooks and a large quantity of material. I then read extensively the writings of Imaam Ibn Taymeeyah (may Allaah be pleased with him) and his student Imaam Ibn al-Qayyim. Then I began to organize the information in chapters which lead – by the mercy of Allaah – to my writing of 30 books in the form of manuscripts about Qur’ânic medicine (at-Tibb al-Qur’aanee) and prophetic medicine (at-Tibb an-Nabawee). These books are ready for publication; however, due to my limited resources, I have been unable to publish any of them to date.

Q. What percentage of the cases you meet are actual cases of demonic possession?

A. When I visit someone or someone is brought to me who believes that he is affected by magic, evil eye, or the jinn, my first session is an examination (fahs) and giving advice. The method of examination is quite simple. Anyone afflicted by magic, evil eye or jinn attack must show some symptoms of the affliction, which I call, “symptoms of satanic bonding.†The symptoms have peculiarities like the symptoms of any other sickness, such as influenza and rheumatism. During the examination I, therefore, ask about the symptoms, which may appear in both the walking state as well as during sleep. Symptoms during sleep include nightmares, sleeplessness, broken sleep, uneasiness, the grinding of teeth, and dreams of Satan in the form of carnivorous animals. Then I ask about symptoms while awake, such as feelings of anxiety, forgetfulness, hopelessness, lethargy and immobility. Included among the signs are being easily angered, crying, and staring aimlessly or avoiding eyes of others. If the patient displays such symptoms during his walking and sleeping states, I recite upon him some Qur’ânic verses. If he is possessed, the jinnee may begin at this point to talk either with the voice of the person or another voice. Sometimes it will use foul language, curse those present or strike and kick. It may reveal why it possessed the person and when it did so. It may also reveal if there are others present. Psychiatrists diagnose this as schizophrenia or dual personality. If a jinnee speaks through a human telling its name, religion and condition, they call it dual personality. If a jinnee does not speak but the person’s personality goes through a major change, they call it schizophrenia.

Q. Are there other signs, like bad smells or an unnatural smile, that are common to possessed?

A. In reality, when a jinnee bonds with a human, there are innumerable signs. Among them are laughter and crying for no reason. These symptoms were well-known to the medical profession and are explained as a result of overactivity or underactivity of certain glands. We know in spiritual medicine that this is due to demons playing with the glands, causing them to over-secrete or to decrease their secretions, therefore causing sudden changes in personality and swift mood shifts. The possessed person may also exhibit supernatural strength.

Q. What is the percentage of real cases of possession among your patients?

A. My shaykh and mentor, Imaam Ibn Taymeeyah (may Allaah have mercy upon him), who died more than 700 years ago, said in al-Fataawaaa the following, excellent statement, “If the veil were removed from the people of this time (Ibn Taymeeyah’s time, over 700 years ago), we would find most of the people of this time are possessed by demons.†If that was the case 700 years ago, what can we say about this age in which filth is widespread and the means of demonic possession are abundant. This is a time of sport and play, disobedience and corruption. The percentage of those possessed is very startling – may Allaah protect us all. Those spared demonic influence are very few, while those under attack are many. Allaah, the Almighty said in Soorah an-Nisaa’:

“…rebellious devil, cursed by Allaah, said, ‘I will surely take a definite portion of Your servants and mislead them. I will create in them false desires and order them to slit the ears of cattle and to deface the creation of Allaah….’â€[1]

They are many. And Almighty Allaah’s statement:

“And Satan proved his idea to be true on them, and they all followed him except a group of those who believed.â€[2]

So in reality, the percentage of those under satanic influence in the world today is extremely high. And there is a need everywhere for thousands and thousands of exorcists in order to help mankind achieve bliss in this life. There are a number of real sickness which the medical profession, past and present, in the East and in the West, has been unable to cure, and the cure lies only in the Noble Qur’aan. The medical profession readily admits it has not advanced over the years in its ability to cure problems such as epilepsy, bewitchment, and schizophrenia. In reality, those touched by Satan are so many and their percentage is rapidly increasing. Yet, those involved in treating them according to the Qur’aan and the Sunnah are so few that one cannot but fear for the future of mankind if a solution is not found. By Allaah’s blessing, I am working on passing on knowledge of this science to many young people. But resources to do this effectively are very limited.

Q. From your own experience, what are the main reasons why people are possessed?

A. I have written a chapter in my book, Iqtiraan ash-Shaytaan bi al-Insaan,[3] specifically for this question. There are exactly six reasons: 1) extreme fear, 2) extreme anger, 3) extreme jealousy, 4) devotion to lust, 5) human aggression against devils, and 6) love of demons for humans. Human aggression could be in the form of pouring hot water on the places where devils reside or urinating in holes or cracks in the ground. The Prophet (pbuh) prohibited us from urinating in holes and cracks in the earth because they are places where the jinn reside. The love of demons for humans is very, very common. When male jinn possess human females and we communicate with them, they often readily admit that they are in love with them. And when female jinn possess men, they often express the same.

Q. What is the percentage of females among your patients?

A. They are about 70 percent of the cases. The percentage of possession among women is greater then it is among men. And this percentage is consistent with the texts of the Qur’aan and the Sunnah. On one occasion, the Prophet (pbuh) visited a group of women and said, “Give in charity, because I was shown that you made up most of the inhabitants of the Fire.†When he was asked why, he replied, “You deny the good your husbands do whenever he makes a single mistake.â€[4]

Q. You mentioned about male jinn possessing human females and female jinn possessing men. Is this always the case?

A. No. Sometimes female jinn possess human females and male jinn possess men. But I am unable to give you percentage as I did not keep a record of this.

Q. When jinn speak through humans, do they use the same voice of the possessed? If not, what is the percentage?

A. The Prophet (pbuh) used to seek refuge in Allaah from what appears at night and is hidden during the day, and what is hidden at night and appears during the day.[5] And he also used to seek refuge in Allaah from every [evil] which announces itself and every [evil] which hides.[6] That which appears at night is that which speaks and that which is hidden is that which does not. Thus, speaking or not speaking of a jinnee through the voice of possessed is found in the Sunnah of the Prophet (pbuh). Even in the cases when the Prophet (pbuh) treated those possessed, the jinnee did not speak with him or respond to him. The Prophet (pbuh) struck the possessed person and said, “Get out, O enemy of Allaah, for I am the Messenger of Allaah!†And the jinnee did not reply to the Prophet (pbuh). But, in the case of the jinnee who was searching food and was caught by Aboo Hurayrah, it spoke with him. Also, the jinnee who possessed ‘Abdullaah ibn Mas‘ood communicated with him. Likewise, the jinnee who was beaten by ‘Umar bin al-Khattaab spoke with him. Another example is the female jinnee who spoke to Imaam Ibn Taymeeyah in the presence of his student, Ibn al-Qayyim, saying, “I love him.†And Shaykh al-Islaam Ibn Taymeeyah replied, “But he does not love you.†It then said, “I want to make hajj with him.†And Ibn Taymeeyah replied, “But he does not want to make hajj with you.†It said, “Then I will leave him for your sake.†Ibn Taymeeyah said, “No. Leave him in obedience to Allaah’s command.†This incident can be found in Ibn al-Qayyim’s book Zaad al-Ma‘aad in the chapter on prophetic guidance for treating the possessed. Likewise during the reign of the ‘Abbaasee caliph, Mutawakkil, the caliph informed Imaam Ahmad ibn Hanbal that one of his slave girls was possessed. Imaam Ahmad sent one of his students with a pair of wooden slippers and told him to tell the jinnee. “It is not permissible for you to inhabit this woman’s body, and Ahmad commands you to leave this woman’s body.†Al-Mutawwakil and others present heard the woman speak in a gruff, male voice, saying, “Ahmad’s command is welcome. For Ahmad is one who has obeyed Allaah, and Allaah has made everything obedient to him. If Ahmad ordered us to leave ‘Iraaq, we would leave.†Today, in many cases the jinn do speak, but in many other cases they do not.

Q. Is possession a swift process or does it take a long time, like months or years?

A. Medical doctors say that epilepsy is a sudden, unknown change in the electrical discharges of the brain. They say that there are more than 40 million electric discharges of the brain, and it is like a small electrical generating station. It produces electricity and distributes it throughout the other parts of the body. According to doctors, an epileptic fit occurs when there is a sudden surge in the electrical discharge of the brain. This overloads the circuit and leads to dysfunction in the body parts and becomes manifest in shaking, stiffness in the body parts, drooling and foaming at the mouth and staring lasting for a few brief moments. When we see such conditions, we call the adhaan in the epileptic’s right ear and call the iqaamah in the left ear and – by Allaah’s will – he becomes cured and returns to his normal state. Although the medical profession, ancient and modern, does not know the cause of the sudden increase in the electrical discharges of the brain, the Prophet (pbuh) indicated a cause. In a hadeeth reported by Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him), a black woman came to the Prophet (pbuh) and said, “O Messenger of Allaah, I am overcome with fits and take off my clothes.†[and in another narration, “Verily, the evil jinnee takes off my clothes.â€][7] In this hadeeth the Prophet ( ) confirmed that it is the devil who causes people to fall down in fits. It has been demonstrated that the cause is demonic from the many cases in which we have called the adhaan in the ears of those in epileptic fits, and consequently the fits ceased. For the Prophet (pbuh) has stated, “When Satan hears the adhaan, he turns and flees.†This is in the case of complete possession (sara‘ kullee). There are other types of possession in which humans are affected, like migraine headaches (sudaa‘ nisfee), insomnia (araq), depression, introversion (intiwaa) or pains occurring in different parts of the body at various times. The possessing demon who inhabits the human brain is able to vary cerebral electric discharges – by the will of Allaah – and affect the body parts with a variety of ailments. For example, it may affect the man’s tongue so that he cannot speak, his ears so that he cannot hear, his eyes so that he cannot see, or his hands so they tremble and become paralyzed. These are all various types of possession.

Q. Have you experienced the jinn speaking in languages other than that of the possessed person?

A. I have found many cases in which the jinn speak in other languages or other dialects common to other regions of the country.

Q. Do the jinn enter the human body from particular points, like the mouth, eyes or hand?

A. There are three types of jinn. One type consists of animals, such as dogs, snakes, donkeys and mules. These give birth to offspring like themselves. A dog-jinnee give birth to a dog-jinnee and a snake-jinnee gives birth to a snake-jinnee. Another type flies in the air, like the one mentioned in Soorah an-Naml: “And ‘ifreet among the jinn said, ‘I will bring it to you before you can rise from your position, for surely I am strong and trustworthy for that purpose.’ â€[8] I consider this type of jinnee like the TV picture which is transferred through the air. The jinn which enters the bodies of humans are from this type. Allaah referred to them at the beginning of Soorah al-A‘raaf: “Surely, he and his tribe see you from a position where you cannot see them…â€[9] This verse means that the jinn see us, but we cannot see them. Air is with us everywhere. We sense it and are certain about its existence, but we cannot see it. The jinn are just like air, which is the meaning of Almighty Allaah’s statement in Soorah ar-Rahmaan: “And He created the jinn from a flame (maarij) of fire.â€[10] Maarij is the hot air which is above the fire. Thus, the jinnee which enters the human body is not of the type which has a material form, like that of a human, donkey or dog. This type has a fine, invisible, ethereal (hawaa’ee) body. And it enters the body just like air does through the open orifices, like the mouth, the nose and the anus. Even the pores of the skin allow air to enter and thus become ports of entrance for the jinn. If we drink water in the summer, the water spreads throughout the body and passes out through the pores in the skin. Air also enters and along with it the jinn of this kind. However, the jinn usually live in the toilet areas use for defecation, urination and bathing. This is based upon the Prophet’s statement,

“Surely, these hushoosh are inhabited.â€[11]

The hushoosh are the places used by humans to relieve and clean themselves. Thus, Muslims are enjoined to recite the following supplication before entering such places, “O Allaah, I seek refuge in you from the evil male and female jinn.†The jinn find it easiest to enter from the anus so this is the most common entrance. However, they also gain access from other orifices, including the eye.

Q. And how do they leave?

A. From the same places that they enter.

Q. In which part of the human body do the jinn dwell?

A. When the jinn enter the human body, they settle in the control center of the body – the brain. The concentrate in the brain and conceal the human mind, making the person lose consciousness in a way similar to hypnotism. Then they manifest themselves and take control of the body through the brain. However, this does not mean that they only concentrate in the brain. They may concentrate in other body parts and organs, thereby leaving the brain.

Q. During exorcisms have you ever experienced any attempts by the jinn to possess you?

A. I praise Allaah and give thanks to Him in the way appropriate to His glory. My shaykh, Ibn Taymeeyah (may Allaah have mercy upon him) said in his book, al-Fataawaa, “Applying this knowledge of spiritual medicine and/or Qur’ânic medicine is compulsory upon whoever learns it. Because it is equivalent to relieving the troubled, helping the oppressed, liberating the distressed and supporting the weak. It is among the greatest branches of fighting in the path of Allaah (jihaad fee sabeelillaah).†He also said, “Those who work in this field are feared by the jinn because they know that they (i.e., the exorcists) do it as a means of pleasing Allaah. Thus, Allaah places in the soul of the jinnee a fear of the exorcist.†I have never experienced a jinnee attack while I was awake. However, if I go to sleep without making the protective supplications, the jinn hurt me during my sleep and make me restless. Whenever this happens, I awaken quickly and recite the supplications of divine refuge (ta’awwudhaat) and protection, and Allaah protects me.

Q. Since you began exorcising people over 40 years ago, have any of your family members been possessed?

A. I have not experienced it within my family. However, whenever devils fail in their attack on the human soul, they will try an external attack by setting his family against him, such as his wife, child, mother, father or leader. But such attacks are comparatively mild. If the exorcist has strong faith in Allaah and is truthful and pious, external attacks will also fail. I would like to advise those who wish to work in this field to be careful. On one occasion when I was exorcising a jinnee by the name of Jibreel, who had been severely hurting a woman (and this was around the time I began exorcising), I said to it, “Jibreel, leave the woman and come into my body. Give her a break. Perhaps Allaah will give me more strength and health to bear your presence.†Jibreel was silent for a moment, then he said, “From where will I enter you? From which part can I? I took this as glad tidings from Allaah that He was protecting me by sending angels who would ward off the evil of the jinn. For Allaah has made a type of angel which is specifically for the protection of humans, according to the text of the Qur’aan:

“Surely, every soul has a protector over it.â€[12]

“Each [person] has a succession of angels in front of him and behind him, protecting him by Allaah’s command.â€[13]

“He is the Irresistible, high above His servants, and He sends protectors over you…â€[14]

Whenever Allaah sees His servants being sincere and in constant worship, working in the service of mankind and Islaam, He protects the servant from the evil jinn by sending angels to protect him. I thank Allaah for protecting me and all who work in this field.

Q. You mentioned earlier that your first session with a patient is an examination. If it leads to the conclusion that the patient is possessed, what is your next step?

A. I begin the treatment sessions (jalasaat al-‘ilaaj). These sittings vary in length and number depending upon the case involved. The first of these sessions I call “purification of the heart†(“tat-heer al-qalbâ€). The idea being that the faith of the person whom I am to treat must be clear and pure. There should not be in his faith any paganism, evil, disbelief, hypocrisy or falsity. I therefore clean the heart first so that when the verses of treatment are read, they meet a pure heart. Otherwise, the verses will meet a defiled, sick heart not capable of treatment. This is comparable to planting a seed in infertile ground. It will not grow, but not due to any defect in the seed. The ground was not prepared for cultivation.

The Third sitting I have named “purification of the psyche†(“tazkiyah an-nafsâ€), for Allaah has created man with a heart, mind, spirit/soul (rooh), psyche and a body. The treatments are aimed at the first four elements. The soul (nafs) is a combination of cravings (shahwah), instincts (ghareezah), emotions (‘aatifah) and inclinations (naz‘ah). So, we purify the sick patient’s psyche. If he smokes, drinks, gambles, lusts after women or is corrupt in any way, we purify it so that the psyche can help the heart. I also try to purify the psyche of other sicknesses, like anger, hatred, malice, jealousy, conceit, pride, arrogance, intemperance, greed and stinginess. This session is no less important than the second, for it is by the way of the evil psyche that the possessing jinnee establishes itself. Consequently, this level of treatment may require two, three or four sittings until the psyche of the patient is purified and contented. After this treatment, the psyche does not whisper to itself and it will block the whisperings of the devils.

The fourth sitting concentrates on the mind, and I refer to it as “cleaning the mind†(“tanqiyah al-‘aqlâ€). In this session I address how a person spends much of his time. If he reads useless materials, like love stories, pornographic materials, detective stories and newspaper articles, it only increase his remoteness from Allaah. I advise those who read such materials to give them up and replace them with reading the Qur’aan and its exegesis, authentic books of hadeeth, and books of law. I also encourage them to read useful books in other fields, like mathematics, philosophy, physics, engineering, etc.

The final treatment can be one session or as many as six to twelve sessions. I call it “removing the spirit†(“takhlees ar-roohâ€). It consists of removing the evil spirit from its hold on the human spirit. This is in accordance with a hadeeth recorded in the Musnad of Ahmad in which a companion of the Prophet (pbuh) passed by a mad person and recited over him a legal ruqyah for six days, morning and evening.[15] Also in the hadeeth of Aboo Sa‘eed al-Khudree, Ibn Mas‘ood and others, it is recorded that the legal ruqyah should be repeated twice per day for six days. If it produces results, fine. If it does not, it means that something is incomplete from the previous steps. Therefore, I go back over all of the sessions and check the state of the patient.

These sessions are followed by the prescription of precautionary measures (tahaffuzaat). When a patient gets well, doctors usually advise him to avoid certain foods in order to prevent the reoccurrence of the sickness. I do the same. I advise the patient to give up watching TV – especially the useless programs, to be consistent in performing his daily acts of worship, to get up at night for voluntary prayer, to read certain Qur’ânic verses daily, to repeat the declaration of faith a hundred times daily, to seek forgiveness from Allaah, to pray for the Prophet (pbuh).

Q. Do you use in your treatment physical techniques like tying fingers or tying hair, burning incense, rubbing olive oil, salt or beating?

A. There are no authentic narrations to support the use of salt except in cases of scorpion stings. There is no basis for using either it, oil or other such things to treat jinn-possession. Likewise, the use of amulets (hijaab,[16] ta‘weedh and tameemah) which are worn around different parts of the body are completely forbidden. Regarding beating, it is authentically reported that the Prophet (pbuh) utilized it, and Shaykh Ibn Taymeeyah also used a stick beat a patient possessed by a jinnee. However, I advise my young brothers who are working in this field not to use beating at all, because the use of beating has guidelines and conditions. We do not beat the possessed human, but the jinnee which has possessed the human. And this requires a high level of skill and discernment to be able to accurately know who the exorcist is hitting. For if he is hits the possessed person, it is prohibited in divine law, and it would only increase the suffering of the patient. The details of this, I cannot go right into now, because it would require a very long sitting to explain exactly how to determine the appropriate time to hit. At any rate, I do advise the beginners in this field not to use beating. And even the beating used by many is far too violent and is applied to very dangerous areas of the body. It should only be on the behind, the shoulders or the extremities of the hands of feet. As to hitting the face, eyes or head with sandals and sticks, it is forbidden. However, if the exorcist has had much experience and insight, and he is absolutely certain that it is the jinnee, which is present, he may do as the Prophet ( ) did.

Q. What is your opinion about recitation over oil and rubbing with it?

A. These methods are not forbidden according to Islâmic law. They are permissible and have some basis in the religion. Before going to sleep, the Prophet ( ) used to recite the quls in his palms, blow in them, and then wipe his hands over whatever his hands could reach of his body, beginning with his face. On the basis of this, the companion Ibn ‘Abbaas, and also Ibn Taymeeyah, Ibn al-Qayyim, Ahmad ibn Hanbal and other Muslim scholars permitted the recitation of Qur’aan on pure olive oil. There are verses in Soorah an-Noor (24) and Soorah at-Teen (95) which indicate that olive oil is blessed. Qur’ânic verses may also be read over other substances like musk oil, saffron, rose water or drinking water. Subsequently, the patient drinks or bathes with these. However, one who bathes with such fluids must do so in a place where the fuids will not flow into sewage pipes or other filthy places. The liquids used should be collected in a special container and thrown on the roadside.

Q. During treatment do you have to seek assistance to hold the patient down?

A. Sometimes when a person is possessed, the jinnee causes him to make unusual movements like punching, getting up and sitting down, and breaking things. I may need help in holding down his legs and arms, and then I begin to recite over him.

Q. Could you recount some of your more recent and unusual cases?

A. I have treated many patients and my students have recorded on tape the conversations, actions and words which are used in these gatherings. Each case is on a 60 minute tape.

Q. Do disbelieving jinn possess Muslims?

A. The world of the jinn is similar to the world of man. There are no rules in this matter. All possible permutations occur.

Q. Can more than one jinnee possess a person at the same time?

A. From my experience, this is possible. In fact, in some of my taped exorcisms, you can hear the removal of six or more jinn from some possessed people.

Q. Have you treated non-Muslims who were possessed?

A. Some have come. However, I inform them that I only treat with the Qur’aan, or I do not treat them. Most Christian Egyptians who have come to me have welcomed treatment with the Qur’aan and have experienced successful cures – all praise belongs to Allaah. And a number of them have converted to Islaam by the grace of Allaah.

Q. How do jinn benefit from the possession of humans?

A. Allaah has created the jinn to live in isolated areas, deserts, refuse dumps, graveyards and animal pens. Jinn-animals eat feces and jinn eat bones. The jinn are definitely on a level below humans, as a result of Allaah’s favors which He gives to whomsoever He wishes. Allaah said in Soorah al-Israa’:

“We have honored the children of Aadam, carried them on the land and on the sea, provided them with good things and greatly preferred them over much of what We have created.â€[17]

Consequently, jinn accompany humans in order to enjoy some of that favor with which Allaah has honored men. They try to partake of the good food, drink, clothes, sex and sleep. This good life tempts the jinn into attacking humans.

Q. Do jinn take pleasure by having sex with humans?

A. There is a verse in Soorah al-An‘aam in which our blessed, Almighty Lord said:

“Our Lord, some of us took pleasure one from the other, and we have reached the term which You appointed for us.â€[18]

Actually, all the Qur’ânic exegetes understand the pleasure taken here to refer to jinn’s misguidance of men and man’s worship of the jinn. They consider the taking of pleasure to only mean obedience and following. However, the Qur’aan should be interpreted first by its own verses. This verse should be understood along with the Almighty’s statement in Soorah Muhammad:

“Those who disbelieve take pleasure and eat as animals do, and the Fire will be their home.â€[19]

Do animals follow jinn or do jinn misguide animals? No. The taking of pleasure here refers to the fulfillment of sexual desire. Thus, the “pleasure†mentioned in Soorah al-An‘aam can also include sexual pleasure enjoyed by males and females. This is what happens when a man or woman has a wet dream. And I have dealt with many cases where male jinn were taking pleasure from women and female jinn were taking pleasure from men.

Q. Do jinn possess believing Muslims who are conscientious in their religious practices?

A. This only happens to those of weak faith. The jinn have no power over the true believers. The Almighty said:

“You will have no authority over My servants, except those among the misguided who follow you.â€[20]

“He (i.e., Satan) said, ‘By your power, I will surely mislead them all, except Your sincere, chosen servants.’â€[21]

The true believers and sincere worshippers of Allaah are protected by Him, so the devils cannot possess them. On the other hand, the devils play with worshippers of Satan who disobey Allaah in the same way that children pray football.

Q. If that be the case, how do you explain the hadeeth of the woman who was overcome by fits, yet the companions bore witness that she would be among the people of Paradise?

A. Sara‘ is of two types: fits caused by jinn and those caused by biological reasons which Ibn al-Qayyim called sara‘ min al-akhlaat. Thus, seizures may be from jinn-possession or they may be from a chemical imbalance in the brain or the nervous system. Jinn-possession is treated most effectively by the Qur’aan, because it is a spirit treating another spirit. Demonic possession is like the loss of sight or hearing. It may be a test from Allaah. The Prophet (pbuh) told the woman, “If you are patient, your reward is Paradise.â€

Q. How do you explain a Christian priest’s successful exorcism of patients?

A. The non-Muslim in this field works with the jinn. The jinn may ease the pain for a week or months in order that the patient put his trust in the disbelieving healer. If he were a Muslim patient, his faith would be lost. For only the Qur’aan is the word of Allaah and only it can heal the spirit. The Prophet (pbuh) said,

“Whoever visits a fortuneteller, his prayer will not be accepted for 40 days.â€[22]

And he also said,

“Whoever believes a fortuneteller has disbelieved in the religion that Muhammad brought.â€[23]

Q. How do you distinguish between someone who is suffering from bewitchment and one suffering from the evil eye?

A. They are very similar, and they are both a product of the jinnee attacking itself within a person. The distinction comes in the treatment. The longest lasting and more difficult to cure is from magic spells and the easiest to treat are seizures (sara‘). As to the Prophet’s bewitchment, some scholars have declared it false even though the narrations are highly accurate, without any discrepancy in their chain of narrators or in their text. These scholars have allowed their limited minds to determine right and wrong in the religion. This is an error on their part. There are different types of magic: habal (dimwittedness), khabal (confusion) and ‘abat (stupidity). These all effect the mind of the bewitched person. There is another kind called sihr al-jawaarih wal-a‘daa’ (magic of the limbs and the organs) which does not affect the mind but affects one of the organs, like the hand or the genitals. The type which affected the Prophet (pbuh) was the second type in which his mind was not affected at all. For him to be affected is not strange because he was a human being and affected by many sicknesses. He was wounded, his incisor tooth was broken, he was cursed, made fun of, called a fortuneteller, a magician and a madman. He was an example for us of one who suffered as we do, but was patient and accepted his fate. The hadeeth about the Prophet’s bewitchment in al-Bukhaaree and Muslim reported by ‘Aa’ishah states that he used to think that he had come to his wife when he did not. And in the other books of traditions it is mentioned that he would think he had done something, which he had not. That was merely forgetfulness, which all the prophets were subject to. The Almighty said in Soorah Yoosuf.

“But Satan made him forget to remember his Lord, and he remained in prison for a few [more] years.â€[24]

And in Soorah al-An‘aam:

“And if Satan causes you to forget, do not remain in the company of transgressors after you have remembered.â€[25]

And in Soorah al-Kahf:

“None made me forget it except Satan, and amazingly it took its way back to the sea.â€[26]

The Prophet (pbuh) prayed a four unit prayer and concluded it with salaams after the second unit. The companion, Dhul-Yadayn said to him, “Has the prayer been shortened or did you forget, O Messenger of Allaah?†The Prophet (pbuh) said, “The prayer has not been shortened and I did not forget.†The companion told him that he only prayed two units. The Prophet (pbuh) than asked the other companions if what he said was correct, and they confirmed it. So the Prophet (pbuh) got up and prayed with them two more units of prayer.[27] Consequently, forgetfulness can happen to prophets and this is not considered mental disorder (habal) in any sense of the term.

Q. What do you recite over those suffering from possession, magic and the evil eye?

A. There are incantations called ruqyah al-mas-hoor, others called ruqyah al-mahsood, a third, ruqyah al-masroo‘ and ruqyah al-mareed. I have gathered the many narrations from the Prophet (pbuh) and placed them under these headings in a large, unpublished volume, which I have entitled, Wasaa’il Himaayah al-Insaan min Masaa’ib ash-Shaytaan. Time does not permit me to go through them at this point.

Notes:

[1] Qur’aan, 4:118-119.

[2] Qur’aan, 34:20.

[3] An unpublished manuscript, as mentioned earlier.

[4] See Sahih Al-Bukhari, vol. 7, pp. 95-6, no.125, and Sahih Muslim, vol. 2, pp. 431-2, no. 1982.

[5] A‘oodhu billaahi tabaaraka wa ta‘aalaa min sharri maa yazharu bil-layli wa yazharu bin-nahaari wa yakmuni bil-layl.

[6] A‘oodhu billaahi min sharri kulli mu‘lin wa musirr.

[7] A wording close to this was collected by al-Bazzaar in his Musnad: “Verily, the evil [jinnee] overcomes me….Verily, I fear that the evil [jinnee] will take off my clothes.†However, Ibn Hajr said, “We don’t know any isnaad for this wording except this one…and Farqad (one of its narrators) has a bad memory.†(Mukhtasir Zawaa’id Musnad al-Bazzaar, vol. 1, pp. 336-7, no. 535.)

[8] Qur’aan, 27:39,

[9] Qur’aan, 7:27,

[10] Qur’aan, 55:15,

[11] Collected by Aboo Daawood (Sunan Abu Dawud, vol.1, p.2, no.6) and Ibn Maajah (Sunan Ibn-e-Majah, vol. 1, p. 171, p. 296) and authenticated by al-Albaanee in Saheeh Sunan Abee Daawood, vol.1, p.4, no.4.

[12] Qur’aan, 86:4.

[13] Qur’aan, 13:11.

[14] Qur’aan, 6:61.

[15] The recitation was for three days, twice a day. See Mawsoo‘ah al-Hadeeth ash-Shareef, Musnad al-Imaam Ahmad, nos. 20833-4.

[16] The name given to an amulet consisting of a sheet of paper on which Qur’ânic verses are written and folded into a rectangle or square. It is then covered with thick cloth, leather or tin and a thread is added so that it may be worn around the ankle, waist or neck. This is usually given after recovery as a sealing treatment. See Fugara Techniques of Mental Healing, p. 44.

[17] Qur’aan, 17:70.

[18] Qur’aan, 6:128.

[19] Qur’aan, 47:12.

[20] Qur’aan, 15:42.

[21] Qur’aan, 38:82-83.

[22] Sahih Muslim, vol. 4, p. 1211, no. 5540.

[23] Collected by Ahmad, Aboo Daawood (Sunan Abu Dawud, vol. 3, p. 1095, no. 3895), at-Tirmidhee, Ibn Maajah, and others. Authenticated by al-Albaanee in Saheeh Sunan Abee Daawood, vol. 2, p. 789, no. 3304. The wording is that of Ahmad’s version.

[24] Qur’aan, 12:42. This verse has two valid interpretations: either, “Satan made the servant forget to mention Prophet Yoosuf’s ability to interpret dreams to his lord (i.e., his master†or “Satan made Yoosuf forget to ask help from his Lord (i.e., Allaah) instead of others.†See The Noble Qur’aan, p. 347.

[25] Qur’aan, 6:68.

[26] Qur’aan, 18:63.

[27] See Sahih Al-Bukhari, vol. 1, pp. 278-9, no. 469, and Sahih Muslim, vol. 1, pp. 285-6, nos. 1182-4.

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Assalamu Alaikum wr wb,

Jazaki Allahu khair habiba19 for your post. I've actually read that interview before and there are 8 other interviews with different Muslim exorcists who answer the same questions. They are all very fascinating interviews and offer detailed insight into the Jinn world.

 

The Muslim scholars also use another verse as proof that the Jinn "touches" or posesses humans. That verse is also in the Baqarah verse 275. "Those who devour usury shall not be able to stand except as stands he whom Satan has confounded with his touch. This is because they say: 'Trade is but as usury' Please see tafseer for more detail about that verse.

 

Anyhow, for those who have a limited understanding of the Jinn and their effects on humans, instead of saying one is just crazy and needs medical attention, it's best to study the world of the jinn, talk to scholars, research and read. It most certainly does not hurt to get "medical" attention. I have done so for many many years without help. I don't need to see another medical doctor for my "illness." I'm confident that the Qur'an is the answer.

 

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Peace

 

what im trying to say is that mental ilnesses are way more common than magic.

 

For example there are many many people today who have schitzophrenia and other mental diseases and they can all (with few exceptions) be cured by medication so I do not see why your case should be different.

 

When one experiences these symptoms , the first thing should be to go see a doctor just as for every other problem. IF that does not work then try some other way, but doctors should always be the first option.

 

I do not know where you live, Im guessing some place where there is heavy tradition and a lot of excessive belief in magic, but most of these problems that you speak of have cures from modern medicine.

 

I hope you get better, whichever choice you take.

 

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Assalamu Alaikum bro anthony,

Somehow you assume that the modern medicine is the best route to take with posession and other types of illness. While it might be in some cases, I do not agree that it is always the best way. I can give you one example of when I had an agressive form of cancer and took chemotherapy (see, i'm not dead opposed to modern medicine). The chemo did not make my condition better, infact, I was getting worse. After taking an herb, the seed of blessing/black seed/habbat albarakah, by the Will of Allah taala, I was healed. I do believe that working on tackling illnesses spiritually and with modern medicine is just fine. But when you know you can be healed spiritually alone, then why put that junk full of side effects in your body?

 

While working in corporate America, I met a huge number of people who took anti depressants such as Lithium and Prozac. Some of them calmed down after taking the medicine and others were alot more imbalanced. The "modern" medicine is not always the answer and just because it's modern it does not mean it's always better. I also do not agree that all "mental" illnesses can be cured by medication!

 

Also, how and why would you think that modern medicine could beat the Qur'an as a cure?

 

I agree that mental illnesses are far more common than magic and that many blame their illnesses on magic. I've spoken to many shaikhs and exorcists. One told me, state your problem and expleained that 99% of people who think they have a problem related to magic or jinn don't. So true, many don't! However, the jinn posession can be confirmed and in my case it was, by about 5 different exorcists.

 

You incorrectly assume that I live in "some place where there is heavy tradition and a lot of excessive belief in magic." I spent my life in the US! I'm away for just a bit now.

 

One more thing, being posessed does not mean that one is a basket case. Alhamdulillah, Allah the Allmighty has protected my mind. I think your picture of one who is posessed is incorrect. Alhamdulillah, regardless of what I feel, I operate pretty well on a daily basis and no one has considered me crazy. Actually, I'm blessed to be a leader in many respects in my life.

 

So why would a person in such a state run to medicine ... when they have the Qur'an. It truly lifts all illnesses. It just takes some time!

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So why would a person in such a state run to medicine ...

 

Then don't turn to food when you're hungry, don't sleep when you're tired , don't drink water when you're thirsty.

 

What a question you ask......

 

 

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Magic is the use of certain devices or tactics or material to affect people’s minds so as to see what is unreal and believe it to be reality. Some people resort to it in order to have influence on others and make them do their bidding. Magic is emphatically forbidden. To learn it is forbidden, and to practice it is considered similar to disbelief in God.

 

Magic is mentioned on several occasions in the Qur’an, but always with disapproval and condemnation. The Qur’an mentions that Pharaoh, who opposed the Prophet Moses (peace be upon him), had under his command a large group of magicians, and it describes their tricks as ‘great magic. But it also makes clear that THERE WAS NO SUBSTANCE TO WHAT THEY DID. It was simply PURE DECEPTION, making people see what was not there. Hence, in the challenge put by Pharaoh to Moses, victory was clearly to Moses, because God transformed his staff into a large snake, but this was a real snake, not imaginary, and it ate all that the magicians produced by their false tricks, which was only a matter of false deception.

 

There are reports about the Prophet being under a magic spell for a brief period of time, when he could imagine things that did not happen. But this is untrue. God says in the Qur’an: “The wrongdoers say: ‘The man you follow is certainly bewitched.’ See to what they liken you. They have certainly gone astray and are unable to find a way back (to the truth).†(17: 47-48 & 25: 8-9) This statement, repeated twice in the Qur’an, makes clear that only wrongdoers make such a claim about the Prophet, and that they are in error and cannot find a way back to the truth. This is a very clear denial by none other than God.

 

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So this article seems to say that Magic is not real at all, that there is no such thing as magic.

 

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And here is a different view from Islamonline(contact admin if its a beneficial link) from Sheykh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi

 

There are many people who claim that they have seen jinn or that they have relations with them, and some may even say they are married to a jinn. In fact, many of these claims are false, many of those who claim that they are possessed by jinn do, in effect, suffer from psychological disorders such as schizophrenia and the like, and jinn have nothing to do with such disorders.

 

Make your own decisions, but any reasonable minded person can tell that this issue is a very serious one, and mental illness should be first and foremost referred to medical specialists in the field of mental health.

 

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For the past few years I have been suffering from many problems. I thought it was normal. Everyone has problems and didn't really think anything out of the ordinary was wrong.

 

One of the problems I was facing was that whenever a proposal for marriage came for me the guy's family seemed eager but then would loose interest. I thought it was odd but whatever. Just thought that it wasn't meant to be. Then I met someone and we really liked each other and I thought that it would work out but after a year he started behaving weird. And then we stopped communicating.

 

I met someone by chance who told me that she felt that someone had done bandish on me. She said that someone had done jaddoo by using needles and whenever someone tired to get close to me those needles would poke the person in the heart and that he would eventually turn away from me.

 

My question is that is this possible? Can this really work?

 

Please reply and also if anyone knows a dua that I can read to remove whatever obstacle that has come between us.

 

p.s. Please don't think that I am just one of those ignorant people who blames everything on jadoo. I never really believe this until recently. It's like nowadays everyone is doing jadoo on somone and I was just curious.

 

Thanks.

 

I have found the IslamOnline(contact admin if its a beneficial link) response to exactly the same problem as you have !

 

Dear scholars, As-salamu `alaykum. I am a woman in my late twenties but I have not married yet. Whenever a man comes to ask for my hand, he loses interest quickly. My friends who are my age are all married with children. I ask Allah to bless them and their children. I went to some sheikhs to recite Qur’an for me as everyone says I am bewitched. Jazakum Allah khayran.

Dear sister in Islam, we would like to thank you for the great confidence you place in us, and we implore Allah Almighty to help us serve His cause and render our work for His Sake.

 

Magic is an undeniable fact, yet this does not mean that we should attribute all our problems to it, for this is in fact the mere whisperings of Satan which he makes use of to spoil people’s lives and harm their commitment to the religion. To get rid of such Satanic whisperings, a Muslim should constantly read the authentic supplications particularly Ayat Al-Kursi as well as Surat Al-Ikhlas, Al-Falaq and An-Nas.

 

This is what His Eminence Sheikh Faysal Mawlawi, Deputy Chairman of the European Council for Fatwa and Research, stated in his fatwa in this concern:

 

“It is not necessary to attribute the case of a woman having no suitors, or suitors losing interest, to magic. A man may also spend a lot of time to find his suitable spouse until he is in his forties and when he is asked why he has not married yet, he answers that he has not found a good woman to marry, which is not true. That is because there are many good women in our society nowadays. But he does not claim that he is bewitched. Other men may not marry until they are in their fifties, while others may not marry at all without attributing such things to magic.

 

What I would like to state here is that we should get rid of such beliefs in magic in order not to live in the realm of the unknown. Holding such beliefs may also fill our souls with fear and consequently cause us to lead a miserable life. Then we may discover after a long period of time that what we believed in were mere illusions and that Satan has taken advantage of our points of weakness and has seduced us. To clarify, once one of my brothers in Islam told me that his house was haunted, and that he had recently been experiencing problems with his wife. Furthermore, he said that every now and then he used to smell a bad odor in the house but he searched the house and found nothing unusual. He asked me to accompany him to his house to put an end to the impact of this magic. I rejected his claims completely interpreting them as Satanic whispers. As for the bad smell, I thought it was a bad odor either in or out of the house. After a while, it was discovered that the bad smell was because of an electrical wire in the ceiling. In addition, the dispute between him and his wife was because he used to come home and stay up until midnight using the computer. Thus, the matter proved to have no relation with magic.

 

It is worth mentioning that many of those who claim being capable of dispelling jinn and breaking spells are only doing this to gain money. They have a direct interest in deceiving their victims by giving them the impression that they are bewitched. Even if such persons do not receive money for what they do, this does not mean that their claims are real. Still, what I have stated does not mean that there are no honest people working in this field. Indeed, there are many, praise be to Allah, but our aim is to warn against magicians.

 

Finally, dear sister in Islam, if you think it is probable that you are suffering from the effects of magic, you may consult a righteous person who can undo the spell. This should be done after you have exerted yourself to break the spell by regular recitation of the Qur’an and, in particular, Surat Al-Ikhlas, Al-Falaq and An-Nas.â€

 

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Salaam,

 

I haven't visited this thread in a very long time. But what I continue to see is the fear, pain and anxiety people associate with magick. Much of what we as humans suffer can be explained by physical and medical means. There was a time when all illnesses and problems were explained by the workings of magick, hence we had witch doctors and spirit workers.

 

The human mind is a very poweful tool. Much of what people experience comes only from what they believe/feel. The Qur'an provides a clear example of this in the story of Musa/Moses and Phir'aun/pharaoh. The magicians of pharoah knew how to 'work magic' by playing with the minds of people, making them believe the rope they had thrown had actually become living snakes. Remember, these magicians were very adept in their profession and were thus able to strike some fear into the heart of Musa/Moses who himself was bewitched. But seeing as God knew better the staff of Moses became a true living snake which consumed the 'snakes' of the magicians. The magicians bowed down in submission as they knew very well what their 'magick' was (illusion/deception/mind-control) and what truly lay before them in the form of a miracle.

 

Magick does exist and is utilised by people for effects ON PEOPLE. It does not work on anything else. It is a mental/spritual tool. People who are willing to accept magick and accept that it may be influencing them will in fact be the only people on whom the magick actually works upon. So what then is the cure for the millions who claim to suffer under it? To free yourself from magick you must free yourself from magick. It sounds strange but it means to lose faith in the power of magick and to deny that it can have any effect on you. You must actually believe this. I am a former sorcerer. I will tell you once again that magick is a mental/spiritual tool used by men and jinns to manipulate each other. The tool can only be used effectively if it is allowed to influence. Magick is a confusing topic. It has to be believed in to work. When believed in, it works. When not believed, it fails to exist.

 

How then to reach such a state where you do not believe in the power of magick or accept that it can influence you? The Qur'an is a great source for all Muslims. Many wonder why recitation of surahs does not cure them. It is not the recitation which cures a person, I repeat it is not the recitation or the amulets full of words which can cure you. It is what is within those surahs. Read them carefully and ponder over the meanings/translations. It is supposed to make you realise that belief in Allah and trust in reality will free you from whatever magick may exist around you.

 

64:11 No misfortune strikes except with God's leave. And whosoever believes in God, He will guide his heart. And God is fully aware of all things.

 

7:115 They said: "O Moses, either you cast, or we will cast?"

7:116 He said: "You cast." So when they cast, they bewitched the eyes of the people, and struck terror in them, and they came with a great magic.

7:117 And We inspired Moses: "Throw down your staff;" and it swallowed what they invented.

7:118 Thus the truth was set, and what they did was made of no effect.

7:119 They were thus defeated there and then, and they turned in disgrace.

7:120 And the magicians went down prostrating.

7:121 They said: "We believe in the Lord of the worlds."

7:122 "The Lord of Moses and Aaron."

 

Peace

 

salam. what you said is true because when i used to pray often and do the duas i was given i completely lost the feeling of being vulnerable to my aunt's magic. in fact with even one prayer i lose the sense of being vulnerable. the fact is though that if you suffer from this type of thing, many times you get very lethargic while praying and you suddenly dread it just when it starts to work for you. it takes me about a week or two or even longer to start again and gain energy, i know its bad but i'm struggling. can you answer some questions for me please. if you cant asnwer, its fine.

 

just how much do these "baba"'s know about you as a person? the one i go to is a very pure muslim however when i first saw him he told me something about my past and was talking to me as if he knew everything taht was going on with me. how does he know that? does he know what im doing right this second?

 

also, how did my aunt do the so-called magic? in our family these types of people dont exist do i am curious how she learned it or what she did. when i saw her in my dreams, she told me she would just close her eyes and concentrate on me. is that true?

 

thank you.

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Swatvalley16, I am very worried about you. Are you sure that the man who told you that your Aunt put a magic spell on you is "a very pure muslim"? If he really IS, would he be claiming to know about the unseen? Only Allah knows the unseen. I think that he consults jinn and mostly likely worships them for the "favours" they do for him (Allah knows best). How else would he know about your past? Jinn may know your past, just like humans, but only Allah knows the future. Be careful of commiting shirk (by putting your trust in this man), and don't be quick to beleive that it was your Aunt you put the spell on you. If you are under the influence of magic, read husnul-muslim (protection for the muslim) duas, trust in Allah alone for He chose to test you in this way, and only He can cure you. Also listen to Surat-ul Baqara EVERY SINGLE DAY. May Allah cure you.

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Some people say that magic is all in the mind, and if you can overcome it psychologically, you have won the battle and have managed to overcome it completely. I disagree with this.

 

How can some people go as far as to say that the surahs of the Quran do not cure people of magic? Unless you have been under the influence of magic, and have been cured by Allah with His Quran and by trusting him, you CANNOT understand whatt these people suffered. I know people who improved with with every recitation of Quran on them. I know someone who used to feel absolutely healthy, after listening to Surat-al Baqara everyday, for a year. The cure is from Allah.

 

FACT: For magic to work, jinn are essential. THe jinn are sent by a magician to attack a certain person.

 

FACT: Jinn hate to hear Quran. The Quran "burns them"

 

FACT: The Quran is what causes Jinn to leave the body of a person that is possessed.

 

FACT: To say that the surahs of the Quran do not cure magic, is to belie the Quran and to render it useless, in my humble opinion.

 

Ask a cured person if magic is just in the mind. Ask a person who was possessed by jinn if the possession was just in their mind.

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Peace

 

Ok magic is true but the vast majority of "posession" cases are just mental illness. My uncle was a heavy drug addict and he slashed his throat he thought demons were chasing him, and for about 1 year afterwards he thought he was posessed. He was a schitzophrenic and Medicine cured him.

 

I think this magic thing is blown out of proportion. Its like everytime a person sneezes they think they're posessed by jinns or that someone has done magic on them.

 

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Swatvalley16, I am very worried about you. Are you sure that the man who told you that your Aunt put a magic spell on you is "a very pure muslim"? If he really IS, would he be claiming to know about the unseen? Only Allah knows the unseen. I think that he consults jinn and mostly likely worships them for the "favours" they do for him (Allah knows best). How else would he know about your past? Jinn may know your past, just like humans, but only Allah knows the future. Be careful of commiting shirk (by putting your trust in this man), and don't be quick to beleive that it was your Aunt you put the spell on you. If you are under the influence of magic, read husnul-muslim (protection for the muslim) duas, trust in Allah alone for He chose to test you in this way, and only He can cure you. Also listen to Surat-ul Baqara EVERY SINGLE DAY. May Allah cure you.

lol, he is a very good muslim and is a very well known scholar, he issues fatwas, etc. Ok he did not TELL me my aunt hurt me. he told me that SOMEBODY hurt me intentionally and when i told him that i knew it was my aunt then he said "it is very possible" and kept repeating that. as i said before, every single night after the first time i saw him (for 2 mo.) i saw dreams about my aunt hitting me with her eyes and buying a certain ta'weez..i saw a dream about her every night for 2 months so i am 100% sure it is her. in real life, whenever she is near me she is always staring and concentrating at me..and only me. my own sister also notices that she does it when i'm not watching. but i see her staring at me in the corner of my eyes and when i look to see she has her hand beneath her chin and is giving me the evil eye. So this is how I KNOW that it is my aunt.

 

So my question now is how did this man know my past?? my father called him to schedule a meeting with him before i even saw him and when i did see him, he asked if any strange occurences happened between when my dad called him or no. and i said well no but the other night i screamed out of my bed and out the room in the middle of the night. and he said that he knew that.

 

lol.

 

then i asked him on the phone how he knew. then he said because he sometimes "learns" things. and immediatley changed the subject and said he had to leave. so thats why i'm asking Insignia. This man is extremely indirect about things.

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Asalam-o-alaikum

 

like broinsignia, im back on here too after a while, surprised to see this thread going so long!

 

bro anthony, i have to say i agree with you but only to a certain extent - yes get the illness checked out using medical help, seeing a doctor, specilist, but as time wears on and medication refuses to work - you learn that you are not going through a 'normal' or 'natural' illness. i agree that many people tend to jump to conclusions each time they fall ill or a calamity strikes them, and instantly blame 'magick', this in itself is dangerous, because they may well just try to seek help only through these peers, baba's, so called holymen etc...and in the midst of all this confusion, running around, losing their money, trying out different things and ways that have been told by the ammils peers to follow, they can lose sight of the fact that if only they had further medical examinations they may be curd by simplest of things. but they leave that too late - only when they realise the illness is more serious thats when they seek medical help and are diagnosed at late stages, for some im talking about illnessess such as cancer. so i do see your point brother

 

however, this also works vice versa, people spend years trying to seek right medical help and only realise medicine dont work, but by that time illness is worse, or circumtances are worse, and only then they will look at possibiity of magick being done on them, or the evil eye is upon them

 

magick and the evil eye exist. fullstop. its clearly stated in the Quran.remedies for them are in the Quran. and encouragement and hope is given by Allah (swt) himself in the versus to victims of this evil.

it is clear how magick started, who used it and who was not allowed to use it.

 

i have too many experiences and people i know who can shed real light on these matters

 

i found a girl who is now my freind as a result of her story. her rishtas/marriage proposals have been stopped by magick, they are 5 sisters and 1 bro. she is now 34, youngest 23. all are educated and humble people. their mother has been ill for years. this girls aunt sent a jinn to trouble her family. her mother has seen it in the house - the brother and sisters feel it too. their father speaks to none of them and does not care about them anymore, once a loving devoted father. it is his sister who has done this on the family.

 

magick is no light hearted matter, for those who wish to make a mockery of others misfortunes, because they dont believe in magic is a sad thing to do......

 

wasalaam

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Asalam-o-alaikum

 

like broinsignia, im back on here too after a while, surprised to see this thread going so long!

 

bro anthony, i have to say i agree with you but only to a certain extent - yes get the illness checked out using medical help, seeing a doctor, specilist, but as time wears on and medication refuses to work - you learn that you are not going through a 'normal' or 'natural' illness. i agree that many people tend to jump to conclusions each time they fall ill or a calamity strikes them, and instantly blame 'magick', this in itself is dangerous, because they may well just try to seek help only through these peers, baba's, so called holymen etc...and in the midst of all this confusion, running around, losing their money, trying out different things and ways that have been told by the ammils peers to follow, they can lose sight of the fact that if only they had further medical examinations they may be curd by simplest of things. but they leave that too late - only when they realise the illness is more serious thats when they seek medical help and are diagnosed at late stages, for some im talking about illnessess such as cancer. so i do see your point brother

 

however, this also works vice versa, people spend years trying to seek right medical help and only realise medicine dont work, but by that time illness is worse, or circumtances are worse, and only then they will look at possibiity of magick being done on them, or the evil eye is upon them

 

magick and the evil eye exist. fullstop. its clearly stated in the Quran.remedies for them are in the Quran. and encouragement and hope is given by Allah (swt) himself in the versus to victims of this evil.

it is clear how magick started, who used it and who was not allowed to use it.

 

i have too many experiences and people i know who can shed real light on these matters

 

i found a girl who is now my freind as a result of her story. her rishtas/marriage proposals have been stopped by magick, they are 5 sisters and 1 bro. she is now 34, youngest 23. all are educated and humble people. their mother has been ill for years. this girls aunt sent a jinn to trouble her family. her mother has seen it in the house - the brother and sisters feel it too. their father speaks to none of them and does not care about them anymore, once a loving devoted father. it is his sister who has done this on the family.

 

magick is no light hearted matter, for those who wish to make a mockery of others misfortunes, because they dont believe in magic is a sad thing to do......

 

wasalaam

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Asalam-o-alaikum

 

like broinsignia, im back on here too after a while, surprised to see this thread going so long!

 

bro anthony, i have to say i agree with you but only to a certain extent - yes get the illness checked out using medical help, seeing a doctor, specilist, but as time wears on and medication refuses to work - you learn that you are not going through a 'normal' or 'natural' illness. i agree that many people tend to jump to conclusions each time they fall ill or a calamity strikes them, and instantly blame 'magick', this in itself is dangerous, because they may well just try to seek help only through these peers, baba's, so called holymen etc...and in the midst of all this confusion, running around, losing their money, trying out different things and ways that have been told by the ammils peers to follow, they can lose sight of the fact that if only they had further medical examinations they may be curd by simplest of things. but they leave that too late - only when they realise the illness is more serious thats when they seek medical help and are diagnosed at late stages, for some im talking about illnessess such as cancer. so i do see your point brother

 

however, this also works vice versa, people spend years trying to seek right medical help and only realise medicine dont work, but by that time illness is worse, or circumtances are worse, and only then they will look at possibiity of magick being done on them, or the evil eye is upon them

 

magick and the evil eye exist. fullstop. its clearly stated in the Quran.remedies for them are in the Quran. and encouragement and hope is given by Allah (swt) himself in the versus to victims of this evil.

it is clear how magick started, who used it and who was not allowed to use it.

 

i have too many experiences and people i know who can shed real light on these matters

 

i found a girl who is now my freind as a result of her story. her rishtas/marriage proposals have been stopped by magick, they are 5 sisters and 1 bro. she is now 34, youngest 23. all are educated and humble people. their mother has been ill for years. this girls aunt sent a jinn to trouble her family. her mother has seen it in the house - the brother and sisters feel it too. their father speaks to none of them and does not care about them anymore, once a loving devoted father. it is his sister who has done this on the family.

 

magick is no light hearted matter, for those who wish to make a mockery of others misfortunes, because they dont believe in magic is a sad thing to do......

 

wasalaam

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aslaam alaikum i have been researching this topic from this year because i witnessed this problem in my family members . i came across this website which i would like to share (www.)"http://Islam-universe/Exorcism.html"]Islam-universe/Exorcism.html[/url] salaaam

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