An Islamic View Of Gog And Magog In The Modern Age

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Brother and Sisters,

 

I would like to introduce to you the new book of Sheikh Imran Hosein on 'An Islamic View of Gog and Magog in the Modern Age' just released this year.

 

Please give this book a chance, don't let it drift away from your reach.

 

All those who deny that God and Magog haven't yet been released in this world based on just a few hadiths are strongly recommended to have a look at all the points this book holds.

 

A word from him -

 

I began my study of Gog and Magog more than fifteen years ago in the early 90’s while resident in New York. My subsequent public lectures on the subject never failed to provoke keen interest from my Muslim audiences in several parts of the world. The evidence and arguments presented in the chapter on Gog and Magog in my book, ‘Jerusalem in the Qur’an’, succeeded in convincing many who read the book that we now live in a world dominated by Gog and Magog. They were easily convinced that the ‘town’ mentioned in the Qur’ān in Sūrah al-Anbiyāh’ (21:95-6) was Jerusalem and hence, that Gog and Magog (and Dajjāl) explained the ominously unfolding ‘war on Islam’ with slaughter and destruction of Muslims in so many parts of the world. As a consequence, such readers also understood israel’s mysterious imperial agenda, and many have been making efforts to extricate themselves and their families from the embrace of Gog and Magog – an embrace that will take 999 out of every 1000 of mankind into the hellfire.

 

Despite my best efforts, however, I failed miserably, again and again, to convince my learned peers, the scholars of Islam, that Gog and Magog were even released into the world. I earnestly hope and pray that this book might make a difference Insha’ Allah.

 

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Please let us remember what our texts say about this.

 

According to many well documented and sound hadiths, it is well established that the Yajuj and Majuj are in a location not known to us. They are numerous in number and are seprated by a barrier built by Dhul Qarnain (alayhis salam). And, it is also well established, that Gog and Magog will only make their presence known after the death of Dajjal, during the second coming of Sayiddina Isaa (alayhis sallam)

 

Ahmad in his Musnad with a good chain, Ibn Majah, Sa`id ibn Mansur, and al-Hakim in his Mustadrak (and he declared it sound) narrate from Ibn Mas`ud that the Prophet said: The night that I was enraptured I met Ibrahim, Musa, and `Isa. They brought up the matter of the Hour and referred it to Ibrahim, but he said: “I have no knowledge of it.” They turned to Musa but he said: “I have no knowledge of it.” They turned to `Isa and he said: As for the time when it shall befall, no one knows it except Allah. As for what my Lord has assured me (concerning what precedes it), then: the Dajjal or Antichrist will come forth and I will face him with two rods. At my sight he shall melt like lead: Allah shall cause his destruction as soon as he sees me. It will be so that the very stones will say: O Muslim, behind me hides a disbeliever, therefore come and kill him! And Allah shall cause them all to die. People will then return to their countries and nations. At that time Ya’juj and Ma’juj (Gog and Magog) shall come out. They will come from every direction. They will trample all nations underfoot. Whatever they come upon they will destroy. They will drink up every body of water. At last the people will come to me complaining about them. At that time I will invoke Allah against them so that He will destroy them and cause their death until the whole earth will reek of their stench. Allah will send down rain which shall carry their bodies away and hurl them into the sea. I have been assured by my Lord that once all this takes place then the Hour will be as the pregnant mother at the last stages of her pregnancy. Her family does not know when she shall suddenly give birth by night or by day.

 

So, Gog & Magog will not be free before Sayyidina Isaa alayhis wassalam kills the Dajjal.

 

From here, it is quite clear what the Yajuj and Majuj are, and there is no proof anywhere in the texts mentioning about them already being present in the world today. And Allah knows best.

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Please let us remember what our texts say about this.

 

According to many well documented and sound hadiths, it is well established that the Yajuj and Majuj are in a location not known to us. They are numerous in number and are seprated by a barrier built by Dhul Qarnain (alayhis salam). And, it is also well established, that Gog and Magog will only make their presence known after the death of Dajjal, during the second coming of Sayiddina Isaa (alayhis sallam)

So, Gog & Magog will not be free before Sayyidina Isaa alayhis wassalam kills the Dajjal.

 

From here, it is quite clear what the Yajuj and Majuj are, and there is no proof anywhere in the texts mentioning about them already being present in the world today. And Allah knows best.

 

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Yes I understand your point brother, but he has also included in his book many sound hadiths that proves they are already released into the world so one sound hadiths against numerous sound hadiths becomes a bit of a problem, again I am not saying your wrong but its just what I can see. Also he used a lot of Quranic proofs but I guess that will fall under the category that he has interpreted himself so that won't be much of a point of mine.

 

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So, Gog & Magog will not be free before Sayyidina Isaa alayhis wassalam kills the Dajjal.

 

From here, it is quite clear what the Yajuj and Majuj are, and there is no proof anywhere in the texts mentioning about them already being present in the world today. And Allah knows best.

 

Maybe or maybe not, now lets look at his point.

 

Here is eight hadiths describing the exact same event with different narrators and all from Sahih Bukhari, the whole context is taken from the book -

 

It was also clear that this true vision communicated the news

that the release of Gog and Magog commenced on the day of that

Prophetic vision. The Ahadīth describing this event recorded in the

Sahīh of Imām al-Bukhāri enjoy a status of the greatest

authenticity. The reader should not be surprised by repetition in the

eight Ahadīth. These are not different Ahadīth. Rather their subject

matter is the same. But the Hadīth is narrated by different people

with slightly different texts. In consequence the Hadīth is

mutawātir making it the strongest possible Hadīth:

 

“Narrated Abu Hurairah: The Prophet said: A hole has been opened in the

barrier of Gog and Magog. Wuhaib (the subnarrator) made the number 90

(with his index finger and thumb).”

(Sahīh Bukhāri)

 

“Narrated Zainab bint Jahsh: That one day Allah’s Apostle entered upon

her in a state of fear and said: None has the right to be worshipped but

Allah! Woe to the Arabs from the great evil that has approached (them).

Today a hole has been opened in the barrier of Gog and Magog like this.

The Prophet made a circle with his index finger and thumb. Zainab bint

Jahsh added: I said: O Allah’s Apostle! Shall we be destroyed even

though there are righteous people among us? The Prophet said: Yes, (you

will be destroyed if and when) evil, wickedness and decadence increases

(i.e. to such an extent as to dominate the world).”

(Sahīh Bukhāri)

 

The above Hadīth is repeated in Sahih Bukhari with slightly

different texts as follows:

 

“Narrated Zainab bint Jahsh: The Prophet got up from his sleep with a

flushed red face and said: None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.

Woe to the Arabs, from the great evil that is nearly approaching them.

Today a gap has been made in the barrier of Gog and Magog like this

(Sufyan illustrated this by forming the number 90 or 100 with his

fingers.) It was asked: Shall we be destroyed though there are righteous

people among us?" The Prophet said: Yes, (you will be destroyed if and

when) evil, wickedness and decadence increases (i.e. to such an extent as

to dominate the world).”

(Sahīh Bukhāri)

 

“Narrated Zainab bint Jahsh: that the Prophet came to her in a state of

fear saying: ‘None has the right to be worshiped but Allah! Woe to the

Arabs because of evil that has come near. Today a hole has been made in

the wall of Gog and Magog as large as this’ (pointing with two of his

fingers making a circle). Zainab said: ‘O Allah's Apostle! Shall we be

destroyed though amongst us there are pious people?’ He said: Yes, (you

will be destroyed if and when) wickedness and decadence increases (i.e.

to such an extent as to dominate the world).”

(Sahīh Bukhāri)

 

“Narrated Zainab bint Jahsh: That the Prophet once came to her in a state

of fear and said: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah. Woe

unto the Arabs from a danger that has come near. An opening has been

made in the wall of Gog and Magog like this’ (making a circle with his

thumb and index finger). Zainab bint Jahsh said: ‘O Allah’s Apostle!

Shall we be destroyed even though there are pious persons among us?’ He

said: Yes, (you will be destroyed if and when) wickedness and decadence

increases (i.e. to such an extent as to dominate the world).”

(Sahīh Bukhāri)

 

“Narrated Umm Salama: The Prophet woke up and said: ‘Glorified be

Allah: What great (how many) treasures have been sent down, and what

great (how many) afflictions have been sent down!’” (This appears to be

the same occasion as the vision about the hole.)

(Sahīh Bukhāri)

 

“Narrated Abu Hurairah: The Prophet said: ‘Allah has made an opening

in the wall of the Gog and Magog (people) like this (and he made with his

hand (with the help of his fingers).’”

(Sahīh Bukhāri)

 

“Narrated Ibn Abbas: Allah’s Apostle performed the Tawaf (around the

Ka‘ba while riding his camel and every time he reached the corner (of

the Black Stone) he pointed at it with his hand and said: ‘Allahu Akbar.’

Zainab said: The Prophet said: ‘An opening has been made in the barrier

of Gog and Magog like this and this’ (forming the number 90 with his

thumb and index finger).”

(Sahīh Bukhāri)

 

These Ahādith of Sahīh Bukhāri that have come from four

different sources, Abū Hurairah, Zainab bint Jahsh, Umm Salama,

and ‘Abdullah ibn Abbās (radiallahu ‘anhum), are quite explicit in

revealing that a barrier connected to Gog and Magog had been

breached with ominous consequences for Arabs in particular.

There is only one barrier connected to Gog and Magog that we

know of and it is one built by Dhūl Qarnain. Hence the

inescapable conclusion is that the destruction or levelling of the

barrier built by Dhūl Qarnain commenced in the lifetime of the

Prophet (sallalahu ‘alaihi wa sallam).

 

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Edited February 6, 2009 by world_footy_Gunner_laDy

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If the interpretation of the above Hadiths means that the "hole" is actually a breach in the barrier in which Gog and Magog are able to fully pass through and are now among us, then that would contradict the verses that clearly state that the wall will stand erect and unbreachable until the promise of Allah comes and He destroys it to the ground.

 

Surah Al-Kahf

97. So they could not scale it or dig through it.

98. He said: "This is a mercy from my Lord, but when the promise of my Lord comes, He shall Dakka' (flatten) it down to the ground. And the promise of my Lord is ever true.

99. And on that Day, We shall leave some of them to surge like waves on one another; and the Trumpet will be blown, and We shall collect them (the creatures) all together.

 

So it doesn't make sense for anyone to say that any holes that are made in the wall can be passed through, when the verses above make it clear that the only time they will be able to pass through the barrier is when the promise of Allah comes to pass. And at such a time, the wall will be brought down completely.

 

I enjoy Sheikh Imrah Hosein's lectures but to be honest, he says a lot of things that are purely opinions. A lot of personal interpretation of aHadith and Qur'an.

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Surah Al-Kahf

97. So they could not scale it or dig through it.

98. He said: "This is a mercy from my Lord, but when the promise of my Lord comes, He shall Dakka' (flatten) it down to the ground. And the promise of my Lord is ever true.

99. And on that Day, We shall leave some of them to surge like waves on one another; and the Trumpet will be blown, and We shall collect them (the creatures) all together.

 

So it doesn't make sense for anyone to say that any holes that are made in the wall can be passed through, when the verses above make it clear that the only time they will be able to pass through the barrier is when the promise of Allah comes to pass. And at such a time, the wall will be brought down completely.

 

Exactly, he never said by any means that the hole in the barrier represented the fact that they all started to climb out rather this hadith has made it clear that the promise of Allah has already come true. Think about it for a minute Gog and Magog were digging it everyday and everytime they would stop at dawn and thus Allah Taala would restore it to its original status. This is what they were doing continuosly. So why would the prophet SAW get so shocked when he has a vision that showed him they have made a hole already and on top of that Zainab would ask if even they would be destroyed among them.

 

Maybe you might want have a look at this bit he talks about -

 

 ○ ﴿  و  حرام  علَى َق  رية َأ  هَل ْ كنا  ها َأن  ه  م َلا ي  ر ِ جعو َ ن

 ومْأ  جو  ج  و  هم من ُ كلِّ  ح  د ٍ ب ينسُِلو َ ن﴾

 

“There is a ban on a town (i.e. Jerusalem) which we destroyed (and

whose people were expelled) that they (the people) can never return (to

reclaim that town as their own) until Gog and Magog are released and

they spread out in all directions (thus taking control of the world while

establishing the Gog and Magog world-order).”

(Qur’ān, al-Anbiyāh’, 21:95-6)

 

It should be clear, therefore, that all the Signs of the Last

Hour, including the release of Gog and Magog into the world, must

occur prior to the commencement of the Sā‘ah, i.e. the actual

commencement of the Last Hour and therefore prior to the moment

when the true Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, returns. A Sign that

occurs after his return clearly cannot function as a Sign of the Last

Hour since with his return the Last Hour would have already

arrived and would have commenced in a manner that would be

readily perceivable. In addition the return of the Jews to the Holy

Land which was divinely prophesied and which was declared to be

the ‘Last Warning’, could not take place without the release of Gog

and Magog into the world.

 

In addition to a mountain of evidence and of conclusive

arguments presented in this book which all prove that Gog and

Magog have already been released into the world, our readers

should reflect over the prophecy of Prophet Muhammad (sallalahu

‘alaihi wa sallam) located in Sahīh Bukhāri in which he declared:

 

“People would continue to perform the Hajj and ‘Umrah even after the

release of Gog and Magog” but then went on to prophesy that “the Sā‘ah

would not come before the Hajj was no more (i.e. the Hajj was abandoned

or the valid Hajj would cease to exist).”

 

In other words the Prophet declared that the Sā‘ah would not

arrive until the Hajj would be abandoned or cease to have validity

(as in the time of Arab idolatry) but that Gog and Magog would

have been released even before that takes place. Very clearly,

therefore, Gog and Magog would have to be released before the

Sā‘ah arrives and not after.

 

Sis, why don't you have a go at reading his book, I can guarantee you won't be dissapointed rather shocked by what he has to say. If people really doubt this man, then I advise them to read these two of his books, 'Jerusalem in the Quran' and 'Gog and Mag in the Modern Age'. You won't find anything like this.

 

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Edited February 8, 2009 by world_footy_Gunner_laDy

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I enjoy Sheikh Imrah Hosein's lectures but to be honest, he says a lot of things that are purely opinions. A lot of personal interpretation of aHadith and Qur'an.

 

So what, aren't scholars allowed to interpret the Quran? So who does it then?

 

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Imran Hossain is good but he too much gives his personal opinion on Qur'an and Ahadith.

 

I have read his book regarding dreams where he was unnecessarily trying to degrade Al-Azhar and Deoband without any proof. Though no Muslim denies that true dreams are still in existence.

 

His views regarding Gog and Mogog also can not be taken as authority. He is just trying to catch the Ghost in the dark. Moreover Khazars can not be considered as Gog and Mogog because they were free before even before creation of israel.

 

According to him Land means Palestine which is not correct always. Allah has also used Land for Makkah.

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So what, aren't scholars allowed to interpret the Quran? So who does it then?

 

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We should do our best to follow the consensus. I've never heard of scholars who back his interpretation of the Qur'an and Hadiths.

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Imran Hossain is good but he too much gives his personal opinion on Qur'an and Ahadith.

 

I have read his book regarding dreams where he was unnecessarily trying to degrade Al-Azhar and Deoband without any proof. Though no Muslim denies that true dreams are still in existence.

 

His views regarding Gog and Mogog also can not be taken as authority. He is just trying to catch the Ghost in the dark. Moreover Khazars can not be considered as Gog and Mogog because they were free before even before creation of israel.

 

According to him Land means Palestine which is not correct always. Allah has also used Land for Makkah.

 

I guess theres no point debating this whole topic with you people. At least be a bit open minded for once and review why this land Jerusalem is so important today to the zionist. Ah well it doesn't really matter what is right or wrong now because we know theres nothing left for israel to take over as the next ruling state of the world. Don't bother arguing with me on this, just go and do some research. You will find plenty of available information on who Gog and Magog is, what Jerusalem is all about and why Sheikh Imran Hosein differs from majority of the scholars. In the end people love to conform to the majority so its not much of a surprise to see so many negative comments about all these crucial topics.

 

Anyway do you also realize that majority of the scholars still don't have a clue of the fraud in the economy of today. Its saddening indeed when people degrade him so quickly without knowledge and without even pursuing and understanding why he makes such claims.

 

Ignorance is bliss. Subhannallah.

 

This is what we are today, please don't deny it -

 

# The disappearance of knowledge and the appearance of ignorance (Bukhari, Muslim, Ibn Majah, & Ahmad)

# Books/writing will be widespread and (religious) knowledge will be low (Ahmad)

# Years of deceit in which the truthful person will not be believed and the liar will be believed (Ahmad)

 

People have yet to realize this -

 

# The leader of a people will be the worst of them (at-Tirmidhi)

# Leaders of people will be oppressors (Al-Haythami)

 

Something only a few would be able to recognize - litte hint (Sirius)

 

# People will believe in the stars (Al-Haythami)

 

How about this one ;p

 

# There will be attempts to make the deserts green

 

 

We are so narrow minded its unbelieveable. We are quick to criticise but slow to analyse and evaluate.

 

Btw if you want to have a proper debate over this whole Gog and Magog then I can refer you to some forums where its going on. Just let me know.

 

Also no offense but this quote of shows shows how much you know about this whole topic

 

*Moreover Khazars can not be considered as Gog and Mogog because they were free before even before creation of israel.*

 

It will be a really good move of you to research on this topic and listen or read his book rather than state his words wrongly and without much undesrtanding on the whole topic.

 

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Edited April 17, 2009 by world_footy_Gunner_laDy

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We should do our best to follow the consensus. I've never heard of scholars who back his interpretation of the Qur'an and Hadiths.

 

Sis, sometimes there are things that are too obvious and logical to reject and deny. How can I follow the consensus when they still have no idea on the fraud and corruption that is going on around the world? Do you realize Sheikh Imran Hosein is one of the few scholars out there who have openly declacred who the real terrorists are? It might be nothing to you but to me the reason I always talk about him is because of how much research he has done on this whole criteria and how much truth there is in it but then again if you wish to persist thats your choice, I don't have time to argue over this. In the end, the main thing is about improving ourselves and preparing for the worst to come.

 

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Dear World footy gunner lady

 

Why are you getting angry unnecessarily? I have a right to disagree and you can't deprive me of this right. I have read his book about GOG & MOGOG. If you insist I'll read it again :sl:.

 

btw my cousin is big fan of him. Even I liked his lecture on Islamic Bank and back door Riba topic. In fact my cousin has given me his lecture on Dajjal which I have'nt watched yet.

 

Btw if you want to have a proper debate over this whole Gog and Magog then I can refer you to some forums where its going on. Just let me know.

 

Are you talking about wakeupproject guys forum? I have watched their series also and believe me I criticize them too. lol

 

Their intention may be good but their approach is wrong. They have used too much nude VDO's, Cartoons to explain the things which can never be accepted. I believe that no ritual or door is required to bring Dajjal on earth. Many people are doing black magic and this is not a new thing. If Noreagha or Abdullah Hashem think that israelite are preparing for the arrival of Dajjal then they must also know that Dajjal have got nothing to do with energy door, pyramids or rituals. Arrival of Dajjal is mentioned in ahadith and he is bound to appear whether anyone do any ritual or not. People should more concentrate on Seerah instead of wasting their time in watching cartoons, movies to know the plans of Zionists. lol Afterall Allah Subhanahu wa ta'la is best of the planner.

 

AND Allah KNOWS THE BEST

Edited April 22, 2009 by Muhammed Shadab

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Salaams peeps,

 

I just finished reading this, and I think it is a strong theory. Very worthwhile read.

 

Peace