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Salam alikum

 

I wish to know the difference between a Jewish and a Zionist from the Quran and Sunnah

 

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5-82. You will surely find the most intense of the people in animosity toward the believers [to be] the Jews and those who associate others with Allah; and you will find the nearest of them in affection to the believers those who say, "We are Christians." That is because among them are priests and monks and because they are not arrogant.

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Salam

 

Is Zionism not one of the 71 sects of Judaism mention by Prophet Muhammad s.a.w.?

 

The the Jewish settlers orthodox Jews, conservative Jews, or modernist Jews.

 

Aren't zionist the khawarij of the Jewish Ummah?

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Thats one thing I gues .. but does that make them NOT jews as mentioned in Quran and Sunnah ?

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Salam alikum

 

I wish to know the difference between a Jewish and a Zionist from the Quran and Sunnah

 

Salam ailkum

 

Personally, I believe that zionist are people who call themselves Jews whereas in reality they are just a bunch of cruel people. In addition I believe that the leaders of the zionist movement are possibly Jewish extremist leaders who uses quotes from the religious books (Torah, also maybe the bible) in defendings its rights in pursuing their ultimate goal of liberating and having control of the Holy land (Jerusalem).

 

If you look back in history, Allah says in the Quran the Jews will never be able to reclaim the holy land (Jerusalem) and he will always expell them out of the land through punishments.

 

The first time he cleared them out was with a Babylonian army, the second time was the Roman army and the last which is about to occur will be the muslim army and who in this case the leader will be Imam al Mahdi of course.

 

This is my personaly opinion.

 

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salam

 

not all Jews are Zionists, but Zionists are ethnically Jews and maybe religious Jews.

 

The word Jew can refer to the religion or the ethnic group.

 

religion: Jew=followers of Judaism

ethnic group: Jew=the people of the Jewish nation

 

Zionism is just a name to distinguish the radicals among the Jews from those who do not participate in the oppression.

 

Zionism is a political group.

 

Maybe, we are just scared to call them Jews because we have a artificial barrier in our hearts and minds.

 

Allah knows best

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Asalaamualaikum

 

Zionism is a nationalist movement within Judaism, which promotes the existance of a Jewish State. It is considered an extremist group mainly due to its ideology since not all zionists are poius jews. (An example of this is that the founders of israel where not very religious people at all, religion was only an illusion for the building of the state, much like Pakistan was.) The Jewish state, israel, was made from the work of zionists.

 

Zionists are filth, since they are killing innocent muslims in palestine at this moment, clensing the middle east in prepartion for their messiah, Dajjal.

 

 

May Allah aid and protect the Palestinians, give them strength, power and patience and may He protect all muslims from the trials of the coming Dajjal. Amen

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Zionists are filth, since they are killing innocent muslims in palestine at this moment, clensing the middle east in prepartion for their messiah, Dajjal.

May Allah aid and protect the Palestinians, give them strength, power and patience and may He protect all muslims from the trials of the coming Dajjal. Amen

 

Indeed and we are all still sleeping!!!

 

Not many muslims want to admit that we are so close to the emergence of Dajjal, its like they have got a thick skull nothing can penetrate it. The Jews themselves have been deceived into thinking Dajjal is the true messiah but its only when Isa AS comes down and shows them who is the real one but then it will be too late if they accept the truth. Their fate will be the same as Pharoah.

 

Isn't it obivous why they are destroying the Masjid al Aqsa? No not the golden dome masjid, the noe next to it. They are about to rebuild a new temple in that same place for their Messiah. Certainly Allah Taala's punishment is not too far!

 

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jews and zionists are completly different things and people mixed them up only because zionists want to protect and expand israel, THEY ARE NOT ONLY JEWS, they consist of christians, hindus and even muslims, who play into their hands for wealth and power.

 

 

ZIONIST and all other groups like freemasons are groups that work for the illuminatis which is the main group worshiping satan and are preparing for the arrival of dajjal in the world, the zionists are the ones that implement the plans for there masters the illuminatis for wealth and power, but the illuminatis are not the main masters, they are controled by satan.

 

as for jews, then many of them have been brainwashed, beliving the zionists and their agenda, but still there are many jews who are against their plans and against the state of israel.

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jews and zionists are completly different things and people mixed them up only because zionists want to protect and expand israel, THEY ARE NOT ONLY JEWS, they consist of christians, hindus and even muslims, who play into their hands for wealth and power.

ZIONIST and all other groups like freemasons are groups that work for the illuminatis which is the main group worshiping satan and are preparing for the arrival of dajjal in the world, the zionists are the ones that implement the plans for there masters the illuminatis for wealth and power, but the illuminatis are not the main masters, they are controled by satan.

 

as for jews, then many of them have been brainwashed, beliving the zionists and their agenda, but still there are many jews who are against their plans and against the state of israel.

 

Is there any difference between them in Quran and sunnah ?

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This question of yours is weird, brother Nile. The word "Zionist" or its description do not exist in the Qur'an nor the Sunnah, therefore, looking for the difference between a Jew and a Zionist from those sources is useless. As it has been said, Zionists don't have to be Jews, as in religious Jews. A Zionist can be an atheist or a lot of things. However, most Zionists are ethnic Jews, not necessarily Jews that even believe in Judaism.

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ZIONIST and all other groups like freemasons are groups that work for the illuminatis which is the main group worshiping satan and are preparing for the arrival of dajjal in the world, the zionists are the ones that implement the plans for there masters the illuminatis for wealth and power, but the illuminatis are not the main masters, they are controled by satan.

 

Try telling that some people, they call it 'conspiracy theories'.

 

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I think you will find Christian Zionists (the evangelical fundie types) totally shun freemasonry. They believe freemasonry is of the devil. So there is no conspiracy between them at least. They also believe that things like Brownies and Scouts are evil and also other freemasonry associated clubs and will have nothing to do with them.

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A couple of other questions:

 

1) Do Muslims see Jesus as a Jew or do they think of Him as a Muslim?

 

2) What do Muslims generally make of these verses:

 

"To Moses We [Allah] gave nine clear signs. Ask the israelites how he [Moses] first appeared amongst them. Pharoah said to him: ‘Moses, I can see that you are bewitched.’ ‘You know full well,’ he [Moses] replied, ‘that none but the Lord of the heavens and the earth has revealed these visible signs. Pharoah, you are doomed.’"

 

"Pharoah sought to scare them [the israelites] out of the land [of israel]: but We [Allah] drowned him [Pharoah] together with all who were with him. Then We [Allah] said to the israelites: ‘Dwell in this land [the Land of israel]. When the promise of the hereafter [End of Days] comes to be fulfilled, We [Allah] shall assemble you [the israelites] all together [in the Land of israel]."

 

"We [Allah] have revealed the Qur'an with the truth, and with the truth it has come down. We have sent you [Mohammed] forth only to proclaim good news and to give warning."

 

[Qur'an, "Night Journey," chapter 17:100-104]

 

 

Thank you.

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This question of yours is weird, brother Nile. The word "Zionist" or its description do not exist in the Qur'an nor the Sunnah, therefore, looking for the difference between a Jew and a Zionist from those sources is useless. As it has been said, Zionists don't have to be Jews, as in religious Jews. A Zionist can be an atheist or a lot of things. However, most Zionists are ethnic Jews, not necessarily Jews that even believe in Judaism.

 

we alikum eslam

 

Yes that's true .. so mainly the quran and sunnah show the existance of Judism , and zionism was created under judism .. so there's no differentiation between them.

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Asalaamualaikum

 

we alikum eslam

 

Yes that's true .. so mainly the quran and sunnah show the existance of Judism , and zionism was created under judism .. so there's no differentiation between them.

 

There is a differentiation between them but not in the Quran or Hadith since zionism wasnt born then. Zionsim is a relatively young ideology. It pretty much started off in the enlightenment peroid of Judaism, where in the 16-18th centuries jews were in exile in different parts of europe. They didnt have rights and were segregated from the normal communities. They were seen as weird and had no contact will society. Some intellects began to change their thinking from a religious context to a secular context in order to integrate into society. Once they got their rights and freedom back, Jews started to think about their own state in which all Jews would be able to call home in order to live their different, religious lifestyle from the other people around the world yet still provide a sound income for all jews around the world. Nationalism began and so this nationalism is called zionism. This was ofcourse an illusion from the founders of israel. Jews since the elightenment peroid were gradually becoming top leaders of the world in every aspect, and so they needed a state in order to beocme a powerfu world order, financially and militarily. The consequences of such an action is being blindly ignored by most of the world today unfortunately.

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One writer recently described conditions in Gaza:

 

' ... israel nails shut the coffin that is Gaza under a siege that has lasted nearly three years, steadily intensifying so that malnutrition rates rival those of sub-Saharan Africa, sewage runs raw in the streets and pollutes the ocean, homes are still being bulldozed to super-add collective punishment upon collective punishment; men, women and children are still being sniped at and killed; children are deafened by continuing sonic booms, the vast majority of them suffer from post-traumatic stress syndrome, and many of that majority have no ambition other than becoming "martyrs" ...'

 

And it's a whole lot worse now.

 

How can anyone inflict such a lack of mercy on an entire people? The question can only be answered when we understand that Zionist extremists really do believe they are God's Chosen People and that therefore the Palestinians are little more than cattle.

 

By David Icke

 

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