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You dpn't know the first thing about the Federal Reserve System. If you did, you'd realize that most countries in the world have a Reserve Bank, many of them of much longer standing than the US Federal Reserve System. The US Federal Reserve's charter and operations aren't very different from the others. You might disagree with some of the policies of reserve banks, but surely you aren't saying that every Reserve Bank in the world is part of the Evul Zionist Konspiracy!

 

You can keep calling them conspiracy but if only knew these central banks and Reserve Bank most if not all are in the hands of the 12 owners. The dollar is in the international currency which is why the dollar is being spoken about most.

 

The Bank of England is just the same, owned by same these Jewish people...

 

Here are some of the owners mate, I don't think you have posted it up yet -

 

Rothschild Bank of London

Warburg Bank of Hamburg

Rothschild Bank of Berlin

Lehman Brothers of New York

Lazard Brothers of Paris

Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York

israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy

Goldman, Sachs of New York

Warburg Bank of Amsterdam

Chase Manhattan Bank of New York

 

These bankers are connected to London Banking Houses which

ultimately control the FED. When England lost the Revolutionary War

with America (our forefathers were fighting their own government), they

planned to control us by controlling our banking system, the printing of

our money, and our debt.

 

The individuals listed below owned banks which in turn owned shares in

the FED. The banks listed below have significant control over the New

York FED District, which controls the other 11 FED Districts. These

banks also are partly foreign owned and control the New York FED

District Bank.

 

First National Bank of New York

James Stillman National City Bank, New York

Mary W. Harnman

National Bank of Commerce, New York

A.D. Jiullard

Hanover National Bank, New York

Jacob Schiff

Chase National Bank, New York

Thomas F. Ryan

Paul Warburg

William Rockefeller

Levi P. Morton

M.T. Pyne

George F. Baker

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Percy Pyne

Mrs. G.F. St. George

J.W. Sterling

Katherine St. George

H.P. Davidson

J.P. Morgan (Equitable Life/Mutual Life)

Edith Brevour T. Baker

 

How did it happen? After previous attempts to push the Federal Reserve

Act through Congress, a group of bankers funded and staffed Woodrow

Wilson's campaign for President. He had committed to sign this act. In

1913, a Senator, Nelson Aldrich, maternal grandfather to the

Rockefellers, pushed the Federal Reserve Act through Congress just

before Christmas when much of Congress was on vacation (Reference 3,

4, 5). When elected, Wilson passed the FED. Later, Wilson remorsefully

replied (referring to the FED), "I have unwittingly ruined my country"

 

Of you are saying that, why aren't you complaining about the Bank of England (the UK's reserve bank)?

I'd be a lot more impressed if he was an economist. Do you know who "owns the Fed"? A quick google would tell you that the Federal Reserve System is made up of 12 different banks (and also associate banks), overseen by a board which is appointed by the President and ratified by the Senate. It is answerable to the President and the Senate. Its charter requires that it conforms to the economic policies of the government of the day. Just where exactly is the nefarious activity in this?

 

On June 4, 1963, a little known attempt was made to strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the government at interest. On that day President John F. Kennedy signed Executive Order No. 11110 that returned to the U.S. government the power to issue currency, without going through the Federal Reserve. Mr. Kennedy's order gave the Treasury the power "to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury." This meant that for every ounce of silver in the U.S. Treasury's vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation. In all, Kennedy brought nearly $4.3 billion in U.S. notes into circulation. The ramifications of this bill are enormous.

 

With the stroke of a pen, Mr. Kennedy was on his way to putting the Federal Reserve Bank of New York out of business. If enough of these silver certificats were to come into circulation they would have eliminated the demand for Federal Reserve notes. This is because the silver certificates are backed by silver and the Federal Reserve notes are not backed by anything. Executive Order 11110 could have prevented the national debt from reaching its current level, because it would have given the gevernment the ability to repay its debt without going to the Federal Reserve and being charged interest in order to create the new money. Executive Order 11110 gave the U.S. the ability to create its own money backed by silver.

 

I don't trust google, google is also owned by them sorry to say.

 

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The Federal Reserve is

 

PRIVATELY OWNED

 

by Thomas D. Schauf

 

 

"There is a self-satisfied dogmatism with which mankind at each period of its history

 

cherishes the delusion of the finality of existing modes of knowledge."

 

Alfred North Whitehead

 

Dear American:

 

Pursuant to your request, I will attempt to clear up questions you have

about the Federal Reserve Bank (FED). I spent much time researching the

FED and these are the shocking and revealing conclusions.

 

THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK IS A PRIVATE COMPANY.

 

Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution states that Congress shall have the

power to coin (create) money and regulate the value thereof. Today

however, the FED, which is a privately owned company, controls and

profits by printing money through the Treasury, and regulating its value.

 

The FED began with approximately 300 people or banks that became

owners (stockholders purchasing stock at $100 per share - the stock is not

publicly traded) in the Federal Reserve Banking System. They make up

an international banking cartel of wealth beyond comparison (Reference

1, 14). The FED banking system collects billions of dollars (Reference 8,

17) in interest annually and distributes the profits to its shareholders. The

Congress illegally gave the FED the right to print money (through the

Treasury) at no interest to the FED. The FED creates money from

nothing, and loans it back to us through banks, and charges interest on

our currency. The FED also buys Government debt with money printed

on a printing press and charges U.S. taxpayers interest. Many

Congressmen and Presidents say this is fraud (Reference 1,2,3,5,17).

 

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Who actually owns the Federal Reserve Central Banks? The ownership of

the 12 Central banks, a very well kept secret, has been revealed:

 

Rothschild Bank of London

Warburg Bank of Hamburg

Rothschild Bank of Berlin

Lehman Brothers of New York

Lazard Brothers of Paris

Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York

israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy

Goldman, Sachs of New York

Warburg Bank of Amsterdam

Chase Manhattan Bank of New York

 

(Reference 14, P. 13, Reference 12, P. 152)

 

These bankers are connected to London Banking Houses which

ultimately control the FED. When England lost the Revolutionary War

with America (our forefathers were fighting their own government), they

planned to control us by controlling our banking system, the printing of

our money, and our debt (Reference 4, 22).

 

The individuals listed below owned banks which in turn owned shares in

the FED. The banks listed below have significant control over the New

York FED District, which controls the other 11 FED Districts. These

banks also are partly foreign owned and control the New York FED

District Bank. (Reference 22)

 

First National Bank of New York

James Stillman National City Bank, New York

Mary W. Harnman

National Bank of Commerce, New York

 

A.D. Jiullard

Hanover National Bank, New York

Jacob Schiff

Chase National Bank, New York

Thomas F. Ryan

Paul Warburg

William Rockefeller

Levi P. Morton

M.T. Pyne

George F. Baker

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Percy Pyne

Mrs. G.F. St. George

 

J.W. Sterling

Katherine St. George

H.P. Davidson

J.P. Morgan (Equitable Life/Mutual Life)

Edith Brevour T. Baker

(Reference 4 for above, Reference 22 has details, P. 92, 93, 96, 179)

 

How did it happen? After previous attempts to push the Federal Reserve

Act through Congress, a group of bankers funded and staffed Woodrow

Wilson's campaign for President. He had committed to sign this act. In

1913, a Senator, Nelson Aldrich, maternal grandfather to the

Rockefellers, pushed the Federal Reserve Act through Congress just

before Christmas when much of Congress was on vacation (Reference 3,

4, 5). When elected, Wilson passed the FED. Later, Wilson remorsefully

replied (referring to the FED), "I have unwittingly ruined my country"

(Reference 17, P. 31).

 

Now the banks financially back sympathetic candidates. Not surprisingly,

most of these candidates are elected (Reference 1, P. 208-210, Reference

12, P. 235, Reference 14, P. 36). The bankers employ members of the

Congress on weekends (nickname T&T club -out Thursday...-in Tuesday)

with lucrative salaries (Reference 1, P. 209). Additionally, the FED

started buying up the media in the 1930's and now owns or significantly

influences most of it Reference 3, 10, 11, P. 145).

 

Presidents Lincoln, Jackson, and Kennedy tried to stop this family of

bankers by printing U.S. dollars without charging the taxpayers interest

(Reference 4). Today, if the government runs a deficit, the FED prints

dollars through the U.S. Treasury, buys the debt, and the dollars are

circulated into the economy. In 1992, taxpayers paid the FED banking

system $286 billion in interest on debt the FED purchased by printing

money virtually cost free (Reference 12, P. 265). Forty percent of our

personal federal income taxes goes to pay this interest. The FED's books

are not open to the public. Congress has yet to audit it.

 

Congressman Wright Patman was Chairman of the House of

Representatives Committee on Banking and Currency for 40 years. For

20 of those years, he introduced legislation to repeal the Federal Reserve

Banking Act of 1913.

 

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Congressman Henry Gonzales, Chairman of a banking committee,

introduces legislation to repeal the Federal Reserve Banking Act of 1913

nearly every year. It's always defeated, the media remains silent, and the

public never learns the truth. The same bankers who own the FED control

the media and give huge political contributions to sympathetic members

of Congress (Reference 12, P. 155-163, Reference 22, P. 158, 159, 166).

 

THE FED FEARS THE POPULATION WILL BECOME

AWARE OF THIS FRAUD AND DEMAND CHANGE

 

We, the People, are at fault for being passive and allowing this to

continue.

 

Rep. Louis T. McFadden (R. Pa.) rose from office boy to become cashier

and then President of the First National Bank in Canton Ohio. For 12

years he served as Chairman of the Committee on Banking and Currency,

making him one of the foremost financial authorities in America. He

fought continuously for fiscal integrity and a return to constitutional

government (Reference 1). The following are portions of Rep.

McFadden's speech, quoted from the Congressional Record, pages

12595-12603:

 

"THE FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD, A GOVERNMENT BOARD,

HAS CHEATED THE GOVERNMENTOF THE UNITED STATES

AND THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OUT OF ENOUGH

MONEY TO PAY THE NATIONAL DEBT.

 

The depredations and the iniquities of the Federal Reserve Board and the

Federal Reserve banks acting together have cost this country ENOUGH

MONEY TO PAY THE NATIONAL DEBT SEVERAL TIMES OVER."

 

About the Federal Reserve banks, Rep. McFadden said, "They are private

credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the United States for the

benefit of themselves and their foreign customers; foreign and domestic

speculators and swindlers; the rich and predatory money lenders. This is

an era of economic misery and for the reasons that caused that misery, the

Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve banks are fully liable."

 

On the subject of media control he state, "Half a million dollars was spent

on one part of the propaganda organized by those same European bankers

 

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for the purpose of misleading public opinion in regard to it."

 

Rep. McFadden continued, "Every effort has been made by the Federal

Reserve Board to conceal its power but the truth is the Federal Reserve

Board has USURPED THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED

STATES. IT CONTROLS EVERYTHING HERE AND IT CONTROLS

ALL OUR FOREIGN RELATIONS. IT MAKES AND BREAKS

GOVERNMENTS AT WILL.

 

No man and no body of men is more entrenched in power than the

arrogant credit monopoly which operates the Federal Reserve Board and

the Federal Reserve banks. These evil-doers have robbed this country of

more than enough money to pay the national debt. What the Government

has permitted the Federal Reserve Board to steal from the people should

now be restored to the people."

 

"Our people's money to the extent of $1,200,000,000 has within the last

few months been shipped abroad to redeem Federal Reserve Notes and to

pay other gambling debts of the traitorous Federal Reserve Board and the

Federal Reserve banks. The greater part of our monetary stock has been

shipped to foreigners. Why should we promise to pay the debts of

foreigners to foreigners? Why should American Farmers and wage

earners add millions of foreigners to the number of their dependents?

Why should the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve banks be

permitted to finance our competitors in all parts of the world?" Rep.

McFadden asked.

 

"The Federal Reserve Act should be repealed and the Federal Reserve

banks, having violated their charters, should be liquidated immediately.

 

FAITHLESS GOVERNMENT OFFICERS WHO HAVE VIOLATED

THEIR OATHS SHOULD BE IMPEACHED AND BROUGHT TO

TRIAL", Rep. McFadden concluded (Reference 1, contains an entire

chapter on Rep. McFadden's speech).

 

If the media is unbiased, independent and completely thorough, why

haven't they discussed the FED? Currently, half the states have at least a

grass roots movement in action to abolish the FED, but there's no press

coverage. In July, 1968, the House Banking Subcommittee reported that

Rockefeller, through Chase Manhattan Bank, controlled 5.9% of the

stock in CBS. Furthermore, the bank had gained interlocking directorates

with ABC.

 

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In 1974, Congress issued a report stating that the Chase Manhattan

Bank's stake in CBS rose to 14.1% and NBC to 4.5% (through RCA, the

parent company of NBC). The same report said that the Chase Manhattan

Bank held stock in 28 broadcasting firms. After this report, the Chase

Manhattan Bank obtained 6.7% of ABC, and today the percentage could

be much greater. It only requires 5% ownership to significantly influence

the media (Reference 14, P. 56-57). This is only one of 300 wealthy

shareholders of the FED. It is believed other FED owners have similar

holdings in the media. To control the media, FED bankers call in their

loans if the media disagrees with them (Reference 25, P. 134-137).

 

Rockefeller also controls the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), the

sole purpose of which is to aid in stimulating greater interest in foreign

affairs and in a one world government. Nearly every major newscaster

belongs to the Council on Foreign Relations. The Council on Foreign

Relations controls many major newspapers and magazines. Additionally,

major corporations owned by FED shareholders are the source of huge

advertising revenues which surely would influence the media (Reference

14, P. 56-59). It can be no wonder why groups such as FED-UP

receive minimal, if any, press attention.

 

How do taxpayers stop financing those whose purpose it is to destroy us?

First, expose their activity, then demand change.

 

THE SOLUTION:

 

Currently all we do is exchange FED money (interest attached) for real

 

U.S. money (interest-free) dollar for dollar as Kennedy tried to do. We

should not be required to pay interest on our own currency. According to

Benjamin Franklin, this was one of the primary reasons we fought the

Revolutionary War. Today we are still fighting the same family of

bankers (Reference 4, Reference 1, P. 211, 212).

The U.S. Government can buy back the FED at any time for $450 million

(per Congressional record). The U.S. Treasury could then collect all the

profit on our money instead of the 300 original shareholders of the FED.

The $4 trillion of U.S. debt could be exchanged dollar for dollar with

 

U.S. non- interest bearing currency when the debt becomes due. There

would be no inflation because there would be no additional currency in

circulation. Personal income tax could be cut if we bought back the FED

and therefore, the economy would expand. According to the Constitution,

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Congress is to control the creation of money, keeping the amount of

inflation or deflation in check. If Congress isn't doing their job, they

should be voted out of office. Unfortunately, voters can't vote the FED or

its Chairman out of office.

 

If the government has a deficit, we could handle it as Lincoln and

Kennedy did. Print money and circulate it into the economy, but this time

interest-free. Today the FED, through foreign banks, owns much of our

debt and therefore controls us. The FED will cease to exist as taxpayers

become informed and tell other taxpayers. The news media and Congress

will have no choice but to meet the demands of grass roots America.

(Reference 1, P. 17, 22)

 

AMERICA DECEIVED

 

By law (check the Congressional record), we can buy back the FED for

the original investment of the FED's 300 shareholders, which is $450

million (Reference 1, P. 227, Reference 17, P. 36). If each taxpayer paid

$25, we could buy back the FED and all the profit would flow into the

 

U.S. Treasury. In other words, by Congress allowing the constitutionally

illegal FED to continue, much of your taxes go to the shareholders of the

FED and their bankers. Note: The people who enacted the FED started

the IRS, within months of the FED's inception. The FED buys U.S. debt

with money they printed from nothing, then charges the U.S. taxpayers

interest. The government had to create income tax to pay the interest

expense to the FED's shareholders, but the income tax was never legally

passed (Reference 20 shows details, state-by-state why it was not legally

passed). The FED is illegal, per Article 1, Section 8 of the United States

Constitution. Not one state legally ratified the 16th Amendment making

income tax legal.

Currently, fewer and fewer Americans are being convicted for refusal to

pay income taxes. In IRS jury trials, the jury, by law, must decide if the

law is just. If taxpayers do not believe the law is just, the jury may

declare the accused innocent. Judges are legally bound to inform juries of

their right to determine the fairness of a law. Judges often do not disclose

this information so they can control the court outcome. Luckily, more and

more citizens are becoming informed. If one juror feels the law is unfair,

they can find the defendant innocent (Reference 19). In Utah, the IRS

quit prosecuting taxpayers because jurors verdict is not guilty. Please tell

your friends and sit in the next jury.

 

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If we eliminate the FED and uphold the Constitution, we could balance

the budget and cut personal income tax to almost nothing. In

Congressional hearings on September 30, 1941, FED Chairman Eccles

admitted that the FED creates new money from thin air (printing press),

and loans it back to us at interest (Reference 17, P. 93). On June 6, 1960,

FED President Mr. Allen admitted essentially the same thing (Reference

22, P. 164). If you or I did this we would go to jail.

 

It is time to abolish the FED! Tell your friends the truth and win America

back. We don't even need to buy back the FED. We only need to print

money the way the Constitution requires, not the new proposed

international money. We want to keep our sovereignty and print real U.S.

money.

 

Why has Congress allowed the FED to continue? If a Congressperson

tries to abolish the FED, the banks fund the Congressperson's opponent in

the next election (Reference 17, P. 35). The new Congressperson will

obviously support the FED. When Congresspeople retire, political

campaign funds are not taxed. Get elected and be a millionaire if you vote

right. By the way, the profit of the FED is not taxed either (Reference 1,

9). Once America understands, and takes action, Congresspeople will

then gladly abolish the FED. In 1992, Illinois Congressman Crane

introduced a bill, co-sponsored by 40 other Congressman, to audit the

FED. This is a step in the right direction.

 

America is a great nation. As "We the People" become informed, the

media and Congress will be forced to buy back the FED, balance the

budget, significantly cut taxes, and stop allowing bribes to determine

voting strategies. I have already heard from politicians who claim they

will change their platform to include abolishing the FED if enough people

become informed.

 

IT IS UP TO YOU TO INFORM THE PEOPLE.

 

The FED hopes you will be passive and not act on this information. We

believe in grass roots America - we are waking up America. Ultimately,

the battle plan is to inform all Americans and demand change in the

media and Congress. True Americans should run for office and throw out

the politicians who allow this fraud to continue. Congress may refuse to

deal with this issue. That's why each person needs to go to their local

county/state government with the proper paperwork and ask them to

abolish the FED. With the proper documents, they are legally obligated to

 

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do it.

 

WE NEED LEADERS TO BEGIN THIS ACTION. WILL YOU HELP?

 

Consider this fact. Most of the given sources in this booklet show how the

blood line of family bankers who own the FED funded both sides of all

major wars. They created fake colonial money to destroy the Americans

during the Revolutionary War and tried to finance both sides in the

American Civil War. Abraham Lincoln refused and the South accepted.

Many publications show that these bankers financed World War I, World

War II, and the Russian Revolutionary War, which helped Napoleon,

Lenin, and Hitler come to power. They financed both sides from money

created from nothing and profited greatly. These same bankers created a

number of American depressions to change the U.S. legislation and seize

our wealth. Read the sources for details. This is why our forefathers wrote

in the Constitution that only Congress can issue money - not private

banks (Reference 18).

 

More wars create more debt which means more profit to the bankers

(Reference 1, 21). These bankers planned three world wars so people

would welcome United Nations intervention to govern the world in

peace, not war. (Reference 22 gives specific details on World War I and

World War II, showing exactly how the bankers were responsible for the

beginning and continuation of these wars for their profit).

 

The banks have publicly announced they will force us to a cashless

society by 1997. Furthermore, they plan to create a one world

government through the United Nations headed by the FED, Trilaterals,

and the Council on Foreign Relations (Reference 3). By the definition of

treason, they have committed treason! This means you lose your rights

under the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Does this sound far fetched?

Twenty-four U.S. Senators (two of them presidential candidates, Harkin

& Tsongas) and 80 Representatives have signed a "Declaration of

Interdependence." This Declaration, designed to make a one world

government, is treason to the oath of office they took. The media

remained silent. The FED announced publicly that their first objective

was to get nationalism out of the American people's heads because

patriotism to a country would not be of value in the future. The media

makes us think the U.N. has all the answers, and to "think globally."

Congress passed a law stopping certain individuals from being tried for

this treason (Reference 6, Reference 1, P. 191-198). Why pass this law if

 

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no treason was committed? State Department document 7277 calls for the

disarming of America, thus turning our sovereignty over to a one-world

government. Again, the media is pushing to eliminate guns. Our

forefathers believed that the right to bear arms would prevent a takeover

of our government. History shows that before any government took over,

they disarmed the citizens. Hitler did it, and before our Revolutionary

War, King George told us to disarm - good thing we didn't!

 

Under the Federal Reserve Bank Act, the bankers control our economy.

The FED controls interest rates and the amount of money in the economy.

These factors determine either economic prosperity or the lack thereof.

Bankers are now pushing for a one world government and a cashless

society. Why cashless? No cash means no money for drugs, no theft, and

the ability to collect taxes on the underground economy. Anyone who

wouldn't support a cashless society must be a drug dealer, thief, or tax

evader, right? What a cashless society really means is the banks can now

control you. Today you fear the IRS. In a cashless society, if you disagree

with the bankers' political goals, you'll find your money gone via

computer error. (For additional information on a cashless society, read

Reference 13, P. 174; Reference 3; Reference 14, P. 9-12; Reference 15,

 

P. 136; Reference 25, P. 216).

If you could accurately predict future interest rates, inflation and

deflation, you would know when to buy or sell stocks and make a bundle

of money. The FED has secret meetings (per Congressional Record) to

determine future interest rates and the amount of money to be printed.

The Securities Exchange Commission (SEC) by law, stops insiders from

profiting by privileged information. Congressional records prove that

FED bankers routinely hold secret meetings to profit by manipulating the

stock market via interest rates and the amount of money they create. FED

bankers also profit greatly from economic disasters like the Depression

(Reference 22, P. 56). The bankers create inflation, sell their stocks

before the market crashes, then buy up stocks at cheaper prices. Bankers

admitted this to Congress. This violates the law, yet Congress does not

act because these bankers are large political contributors (Reference 17,

 

P. 96-98; Reference 1, P. 162-163; Reference 22, P. 114-170 & P. 136).

Thomas Jefferson predicted this scenario if we ever allowed a private

bank, like the FED, to create our currency (Reference 1, P. 247).

FED Chairman Burns states "Killing can be made simply by knowing the

next few months newspapers ahead of time." Congressman Patman said

"The FED officials own more than 100 million dollars (of stocks) while

 

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making decisions influencing these stock prices..." (Reference 24, P.

123). History proves that banks profit from bankrupting a nation

(Reference 22, P. 56).

 

Congress consistently defeats balanced budget amendments. In the past

30 years, Congress has raised our taxes 56 times and balanced the budget

only once. We need the sound banking system our forefathers wanted us

to have. History proves that banking systems like the FED don't work.

Major world powers have been destroyed over similar banking systems

(Reference 1). If we don't change this system NOW, in five years the only

thing our taxes will pay is the interest on the national debt.

 

Section 7 of the Federal Reserve Act, passed December 23, 1913, states

that much of the profit of the FED should flow into the U.S. Treasury. In

1959, new legislation allowed the FED to transfer bonds to commercial

banks at no cost to the bank. Now the FED receives less interest income

and less profit for the U.S. Treasury because the money is diverted to

other banks through an accounting entry (Reference 17, P. 115-130).

Congress and the IRS do not have access to the financial records of the

FED. Every year Congress introduces legislation to audit the FED, and

every year it is defeated. The FED banking system could easily be netting

100s of billions in profit each year. Through "creative accounting" profit

can easily be reclassified as expense (Reference 14, P. 20, Reference 17,

 

P. 239). Within the first few years, the shareholders of the FED received

their initial investment back with no risk. All the income is tax-free,

except for property tax, according to the Federal Reserve Act. When are

the profits of the FED going to start flowing into the Treasury so that

average Americans are no longer burdened with excessive, unnecessary

taxes? Clearly, Congress cannot or will not control the FED. IT IS TIME

TO ABOLISH IT!

3 WAYS TO ABOLISH THE FED AND ISSUE MONEY PER THE

UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION, ARTICLE 1, SECTION 8:

 

* Buy back the FED and have the U.S. Government collect all profits.

* Abolish the FED by printing real U.S. dollars as President Kennedy

attempted (Executive Order 11.110, 1963) (Reference 4).

* Request your county/state to use their Constitutional powers to abolish

the FED. This is the BEST SOLUTION. Nearly half the states are

attempting or considering this action (Reference 5). Congress has had 80

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years to follow the Constitution, and has refused to abolish the illegal

FED. The state/county effort is working faster than any other method. We

need your support to start a local chapter of FED-UP Inc. and petition

your county.

 

THE WRONG SOLUTION THAT HAS FAILED FOR 80 YEARS:

 

Congress and the media may want to require the FED to return the

required profits into the U.S. Treasury (per the Federal Reserve Act,

1913). The problem is that with "creative accounting" techniques, profit

can be easily masked as expense. The FED has expensed items illegally

to lower profit (Reference 17).

 

"We the People" have pushed the following states to pass or introduce

legislation calling for an end to the FED: Arizona, Washington, Arkansas,

Idaho, Oregon, Indiana, and Texas. We still need your signatures on

petitions, even if you live in these states. Many other states are

considering such action due to your petitions. These states and a few

honest Congresspeople are powerless until all Americans become

informed and demand change. Please pass out the petition. Once we

demand change, the media will have to report the whole truth and not just

push their own agenda. FED-UP challenges the media to expose the

facts on prime time talk shows or news programs.

 

By abolishing the FED, we would not pay interest on Federal Reserve

Notes. Until it is abolished, the FED has a monopoly on profit on our

currency and whether our money supply will be increased or decreased,

inflation or depression. The banks are capable of controlling business by

controlling who can or cannot obtain a loan.

 

WE'VE DONE OUR PART - NOW IT IS UP TO YOU TO SPREAD

THE WORD. Please take the brochure (Cutting taxes $6,000 per family

per year) to VFW, Moose/Elk Lodges, Bars, Union Halls, Churches, and

Association groups. Make copies of the "single-page" brochure for

everyone at work and ask your friends to do the same. Ask small business

owners in your community to tell other business owners and spread the

brochure and petition through the local Chamber of Commerce. CPAs

should be interested in saving their clients taxes. Ask your CPA to mail

the brochure and petition out to his/her clients. Upon receiving this

petition, many presidents of large corporations made this brochure and

petition available to all employees. Once people are informed, we can

 

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force a change. People will have more money to spend, the economy will

be strong, and we can keep our Constitutional rights, liberties, and

freedoms.

 

Contact your library for the names and addresses of your local and federal

Congresspeople. MAIL THEM AN ENVELOPE WITHOUT YOUR

NAME AND ADDRESS ATTACHED. In the envelope, say

"FED-UP Inc. Abolish the FED." Also enclose one teabag (Boston

Tea Party). Ask your friends to do the same (give them the addresses).

Politicians are aware of the "Teabag Protest." If you don't mail it in,

they're going to believe that we're not organized or we just don't care. IF

YOU DON'T DO IT NO ONE ELSE WILL!

 

Many Congresspeople want to make this change, but can't without the

support of the people.

 

WHY OUR FOREFATHERS FOUGHT THE FED

 

"Allow me to control the issue and the nation's money and I care not who

makes its laws!" The above quote has long been attributed to the 18th

century banker Amshell Rothschild (his blood line controls the FED). For

if one unscrupulous group is allowed to print a nation's money - it can

eventually use that money to gain control of the press AND the

politicians - and thus gain control of making the nation's laws - and

finally - control of the nation itself. (Reference 4)

 

If you will take the time to read the reference material listed which has

been researched by Professors of Universities, Congresspeople, etc, you

will turn up information that might frighten you. For instance, in 1921 the

stockholders of the Federal Reserve financed an organization called the

"Council on Foreign Relations" (CFR). Harpers magazine called this the

most powerful organization in the United States. Ninety percent of the

people in the State Department and key positions in the Executive Branch

are members of the CFR. The CFR publishes a magazine called "Foreign

Affairs." Read it if you want to know what is going to happen in coming

years. The CFR is in favor of a New World Order (Reference 3).

 

Congressman Patman re-quoted Thomas Jefferson showing that our

founding fathers knew this banking principle very well. "I believe that

banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing

armies...." "Already they have raised up a money aristocracy that has set

the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money)," he said,

 

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"should be taken from the banks and restored to the people to whom it

properly belongs." The American Revolution was a struggle to wrest

control of wealth from the Bank of England and to restore the centers of

power to the People where it "properly belongs." The Constitution is

specific about the authority of the People, through their elected officials,

to control the money, and thus, the affairs of their government.

(Reference 5, P. 32).

 

Ben Franklin said in his autobiography that the inability of the colonists

to get the power to issue their own money permanently out of the hands

of George III and the international bankers was [one of] the PRIME

reason for the Revolutionary War. (Quoted in Reference 4)

 

Thomas Jefferson stated, "If the American people ever allow private

banks to control the issue of currency, first by inflation, then by deflation,

the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the

people of all property until their children will wake up homeless on the

continent their fathers conquered." (Reference 1, P. 247)

 

Congressman Charles A. Lindbergh of Minnesota said: "This [Federal

Reserve] Act establishes the most gigantic trust on Earth. When the

President [Wilson] signs this bill, the invisible government of the

Monetary Power will be legalized... the worst legislative crime of the

ages, perpetuated by this banking and currency bill." (Reference 5, P. 33)

 

Robert H. Hemphill (Credit Manager, Federal Reserve Bank in Atlanta):

"We are completely dependent on the commercial banks. Someone has to

borrow every dollar we have in circulation, cash, or credit. If the banks

create ample synthetic money we are prosperous; if not, we starve. We

are absolutely without a permanent money system. When one gets a

complete grasp of the picture, the tragic absurdity of our hopeless

position is almost incredible, but there it is. It [the banking problem] is

the most important subject intelligent persons can investigate and reflect

upon. It is so important that our present civilization may collapse unless it

becomes widely understood and the defects are remedied very soon."

(Reference 1, P. 247)

 

Napoleon, a sympathizer for the international bankers, turned against

them in the last years of his rule. He said: "When a government is

dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the

government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the

hand that takes... Money has no motherland; financiers are without

 

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patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain." (Reference 4)

 

Congresspeople have referred to Federal Reserve Notes as "FIAT" (nobacking)

money. (Reference 1, P. 128, 169)

 

In 1879 the Supreme Court declared that the U.S. Government can legally

issue United States Notes, debt and interest-free, just as Lincoln and

Kennedy attempted. (Reference 1, P. 233)

 

A bank that attempted to repossess property on the basis of default faced

Judge Mahoney in a jury trial. Jerome Daly was found innocent. The

bank could not foreclose on the property because it created the loan

money from thin air, as many banks do. Use this as a precedent the next

time any bank tries to foreclose on your house. (Reference 17, P. 82, 83

for court records)

 

The FED violates Security & Exchange Commission (SEC) rules.

(Reference 17, P. 96-98)

 

California 9th Circuit Court declared FED banks are private, not

government. (Reference 17, P. 273)

 

Mr. Marriner Eccles, who was Chairman of the board of Governors of the

Federal Reserve System longer than any other man, testified before the

Joint Economic Committee in August 1962. When Chairman Rep. Wright

Patman asked whether it was not a fact that the Federal Reserve System

has more power than either the Congress or the President, Eccles replied:

"In the field of money and credit, yes." (Reference 1, P. 206)

 

Dr. Hans F. Sennholz, Chairman of the Department of Economics at

Grove City (PA) College stated: "The Federal Reserve System facilitates

the government's own inflationary financing in "periods of emergency." It

makes easy the inflationary financing of budget deficits and the

inflationary refunding of government loans. It stabilizes the government

bond market through inflationary methods and manipulates this market to

the advantage of the government. It does all this by wrecking the

purchasing power of the dollar; by subtly stealing from the people of this

country what it thus provides for the government, through a process

exactly on par with the coin clipping of ancient kings but much less

visible." (Reference 1, P. 250, 251)

 

Source: Banking Act of 1935, Hearings before a Subcommittee of the

 

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Banking and Currency Committee, U.S. Senate, 74th Congress, 1st

Session, on S.1715, May 1935, pp 871-2. "The Federal Reserve System is

in the wrong hands. No Constitutional republic can function when the

government's money powers are in the hands of the financial oligarchy

such as New York financiers.

 

A Republican Senator, who preferred to remain unnamed, stated:

"Congress is too much motivated by fears and anxieties concerning

pressure groups and the "non election." (Reference 1, P. 210)

 

By controlling Congress, the FED has been able to control the nominating

conventions of both political parties. In this way, it has been able to

hand-pick the presidential nominees so that no matter which party wins,

their nominee for President is under definite obligations to the FED...

(Reference 1, P. 210; Reference 22)

 

In 1975, the Rockefeller Foundation Report discussed the

"Interdependence" of the countries of the world on each other. It stated

we are one world and America shall become a nation-state under one

government. They also say we must reach a zero state population growth.

The Rockefeller Foundation stated that they have in excess of 747 million

dollars to achieve this with. (Reference 3)

 

Congressman John R. Rarick states that the Council on Foreign Relations

CFR) is dedicated to a one world government. The media remains

conspicuously quiet. The CFR wants to convert the U.S. from a

sovereign, constitutional republic into a servile member state of a one

world dictatorship. On February 17, 1950, CFR member James Warburg

(banker, and architect of the Federal Reserve System) stated before a

Senate Foreign Relations Committee, "We shall have one world

government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent." Again,

the media remained silent. In the April 1974 issue of the CFR journal,

"Foreign Affairs", page 558, Richard Gardener states that the new world

order "will be built... but an end run around national sovereignty, eroding

it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old fashioned

frontal assault." Congressman McDonald, Heinz and Tower stated that

this is a conspiracy. Again, the media remained silent. (Reference 14, P.

17, 18, 32, 33).

 

THE CFR WANTS TO ABOLISH THE CONSTITUTION. (Reference

14)

WE MUST STOP THEM!!

 

 

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In a letter to Thomas Jefferson, John Adams wrote: "All the perplexities,

confusions, and distresses in America arise, not from defects in the

Constitution or confederation, not from want of honor or virtue, as much

as from downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit, and

circulation".

 

British bankers have stated "Those that create and issue money and credit

direct the policies of government and hold in their hands the destiny of

the people". (Reference 1, P. 200-214)

 

Adams, Jefferson, and Lincoln believed that banker capitalism was more

dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. In a republic, banks

would lend money but could not create or manufacture it. (Reference 1,

 

P. 215)

Later, Jefferson used stronger language and denounced the institution as

"one of the most deadly hostilities against the principles and form of our

Constitution." Some have said that Jefferson did not favor a strong central

bank. What he did not favor was the delivery of our monetary system into

private hands to be run for private profit. (Reference 1, P. 230)

 

President James A. Garfield said: "Whoever controls the money in any

country is absolute master of industry [legislation] and commerce".

(Reference 1, P. 247, Reference 4)

 

Without the Federal Reserve System, there can be no continuing march

towards socialism, and with it there can be no free economy. (Reference

1, P. 251)

 

By controlling our own money, Thomas Jefferson expected that the

government would incur no debt, as had occurred in the European

system. (Reference 1, P. 243) European banks are like the FED.

 

The FED system is the death of our Constitution. (Reference 1, P. 250)

 

THE PLAN TO REDUCE PERSONAL INCOME TAX BY 75% AND

BALANCE THE BUDGET BY ABOLISHING THE FED CAN BE

PROVEN BY AMERICAN HISTORY.

 

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THE FACTS:

 

 

* England lost the Revolutionary War.

* England nearly destroyed the Colonies by creating fake Colonial money and

hyper-inflation.

* Rothschilds who control the Bank of England (Like our FED) said that by

controlling the issue of money (printing it) you can control the government.

* The authors of the Constitution understood private banks" control over

governments. The Constitution gives only Congress the right to print money.

* From the beginning of the United States to present there have been two ways to issue

new currency:

The first way is to have the government print the money, debt and interest- free, and

circulate it through the economy for use as a medium of exchange. There is no tax levied

to pay interest on the currency in circulation because it is debt and interest-free. This is

the system Lincoln used with his "greenbacks", a system Kennedy desired, and Jefferson

demanded.

 

The second method is: The Citizens allow the bank to print $500 billion in currency

(cash). The bank pays for printing costs, ink, and paper. The Citizens do not charge the

bank any interest for use of the $500 billion in printed currency. The bank uses the $500

billion cash to buy a $500 billion government bond which pays the bankers interest. The

bank keeps some of the bonds and sells, for a fee (10%), some of the bonds to the

public. The bank can buy back the bonds from the public simply by printing more

money. The bankers can create inflation and depressions by manipulating the amount of

currency in circulation. The FED operates exactly like this today. It also prints money

(through the U.S. Treasury) and uses this printed money to buy loans from other banks.

This money has created our inflation. We give the bank cash interest-free, then they

charge us interest on our own currency.

 

Take a look at our history in view of the two banking systems:

 

BEN FRANKLIN - THE TWO BANKING SYSTEMS

 

From the autobiography of Ben Franklin as reported by Gertrude Coogan in Money

Creators:

 

...the inability of the colonists to get the power to issue their own money permanently

out of the hands of George III and the international bankers was the PRIME reason for

the Revolutionary War. (Reference 4).

 

Ben Franklin answering a question about the booming economy of the young colonies:

"That is simple. In the colonies we issue our own money. It is called Colonial Scrip. We

 

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issue it in proper proportions to the demands of trade and industry." (Colonial Scrip had

no debt or interest attached.) (Reference 4)

 

BANK OF AMERICA

 

International bankers saw that interest-free scrip would keep America free of their

influence, so by 1781 banker-backed Alexander Hamilton succeeded in starting the

Bank of America. After a few years of "bank money", the prosperity of "Colonial Scrip"

was gone. Benjamin Franklin said, "Conditions were so reversed that the era of

prosperity had ended and a depression set in to such an extent that the streets of the

Colonies were filled with the unemployed!" Bank money was like our FED money. It

had debt and interest attached. By 1790 Hamilton and his bankers had created a

privately owned central bank and converted the public debt (interest-free) into interest

bearing bonds, payable to the bankers. When Hamilton's bank charter expired in 1811,

the international bankers started the war of 1812. By 1816, another privately-owned

 

U.S. bank was started with $35 million in assets - only $7 million of that was owned by

the government. This bank lasted for 20 years. U.S. history shows that currency with

debt and interest attached created a depression. (Reference 4)

ANDREW JACKSON - A GREAT PRESIDENT!

 

When the 1816 charter expired in 1836, Andrew Jackson vetoed its renewal. It was then

that he made two famous statements: "The Bank is trying to kill me - but I will kill it!"

Later he said "If the American people only understood the rank injustice of our money

and banking system - there would be a revolution before morning..." (Reference 4)

 

ABRAHAM LINCOLN - ANOTHER GREAT PRESIDENT!

 

President Lincoln needed money to finance the Civil War, and the international bankers

offered him loans at 24-36% interest. Lincoln balked at their demands because he didn't

want to plunge the nation into such a huge debt. Lincoln approached Congress about

passing a law to authorize the printing of U.S. Treasury Notes. Lincoln said "We gave

the people of this Republic the greatest blessing they ever had - their own paper money

to pay their debts..." Lincoln printed over 400 million "Greenbacks" (debt and

interest-free) and paid the soldiers, U.S. government employees, and bought war

supplies. The international bankers didn't like it and wanted Lincoln to borrow the

money from them so that the American people would owe tremendous interest on the

loan. Lincoln's solution made this seem ridiculous. (Reference 1, P. 46, 47; Reference 4)

 

Shortly after Lincoln's death, the government revoked the Greenback law which ended

Lincoln's debt-free, interest-free money. A new national banking act was enacted and all

money became interest bearing again. (Reference 4)

 

The late Thomas A Edison explained the matter of issuing currency this way: "If our

nation can issue a dollar bond (interest bearing) it can issue a dollar bill (interest-free).

The element that makes the bond good makes a bill good also. The difference between

the bond and the bill is that the bond lets money brokers collect twice the amount of the

bond and an additional 20 percent, whereas the currency pays nobody but those who

 

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contribute directly in some useful way. It is absurd to say that our country can issue $30

million in bonds and not $30 million in currency. Both are promises to pay: But one

promise fattens the usurers (interest collectors) and the other helps the people."

(Reference 1, P. 46)

 

The FED is owned largely by foreign banks that control our economy and Congress

through the power of money and the media which they bought with profits generated

with profits generated by artificial debt.

 

If we can convert U.S. dollars that are debt and interest-free to interest bearing currency,

we can change it back just as easily. Both the media and the banking system will

probably claim that such a change will cause hyper- inflation. The answer however, can

be found in history. Lincoln printed debt and interest-free Greenbacks (cash) to finance

an entire war. With added production you can add currency without having

hyper-inflation. Lincoln proved it. John F. Kennedy - a President with vision! On June

4, 1964, President Kennedy issued Executive Order 11110. This Executive Order called

for the issuance of new currency - the United States Note. At the time, $4,292,893 of

this currency was put into circulation. This new currency was to be distributed through

the U.S. Treasury and not the Federal Reserve System. Furthermore, it was to be issued

debt and interest-free. Upon Kennedy's assassination, this currency was withdrawn from

circulation, never to be issued again. The media remained silent on how Kennedy would

have eliminated the debt and interest payments, and therefore eliminated the FED.

Interest-free United States Notes do not result in hyper-inflation. By issuing United

States Notes, interest-free, we have less interest expense, and less taxes. With less taxes

people spend more and buy more. This result is added production, and therefore, you

can add dollars without inflation. Either Rockefeller and his people will spend your tax

money into the economy or you get to spend your own money by paying less taxes. The

bankers want you to think you'll have mass inflation by changing the system. This is

only true if you add dollars to the economy without added production. For example,

look what happened in post World War I Germany. They merely printed money without

increasing production. The result was hyper-inflation. Another example: In the entire

economy, if you have only 10 loaves of bread and only $10, each loaf would sell for $1.

If you print an extra $10, now you have $20 and the 10 loaves which would sell for $2

each. This is only true if we don't have added production. By cutting taxes, people will

spend more and buy more bread. If we print more money and bake more bread, we have

$50 and 50 loaves, so each loaf still sells for $1. As long as you monitor production with

increased cash, inflation will not occur. Under the FED system, the price of bread has

dramatically increased since 1913. If we cut taxes and YOU spend your money instead

of the BANKERS spending it, you will have more bread, cars, and wealth than the

bankers. SOMEONE will spend your money - it might as well be YOU!

 

A FED-like banking system has destroyed other governments. In five years the only

thing taxes will pay is the interest on the debt. Clearly, the FED must be abolished

before we're demolished! Already laws are set up to have a dictatorship when we have

the economic crisis (Federal Emergency Management Act, or FEMA).

 

Under the FED system, when a new dollar is issued, we pay taxes to pay for the dollar

as the principal (debt) plus interest on the dollar. We pay for each new dollar twice, and

who gets most of the money? The bankers, who control this money. Taxpayers should

only pay taxes for the paper, ink, and printing costs of new money. Why should we give

bankers the right to print money on a printing press, charge them no interest on this

 

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money, and then let them exchange their "free" money for a government bond that pays

them interest??

 

England never gave up on owning the United States. They are still silently fighting the

same Revolutionary War. The Bank of England, through the Rothschilds, owns and

controls the FED (Reference 22). We have been robbed of our wealth, and in five years

we will be bankrupt if there is no change. The FED bankers will LEGALLY OWN OUR

NATION; OUR HOUSES, OUR CARS, OUR BUSINESSES, just as Thomas Jefferson

predicted.

 

SPECIFIC PLAN: HOW TO GET OUT OF DEBT

 

U.S. history proves that issuing debt and interest-free currency allows our economy to

prosper, as long as Congress controls the amount of money created. You can add printed

dollars into the economy as you add production, and there will be no inflation. With

today's sophisticated computers, we can easily monitor the printing of money and

inflation.

Congress needs to buy back the FED and/or abolish it. Any government debt they own

would be automatically eliminated. All remaining debt could be paid as needed with the

same type of

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(8) $16 trillion in government and private debt, much of which the FED

printed and collected interest on (Reference 3)

(9) Northpoint Tactical Team, P.O. Box 129, Topton, NC 28781

(10) Christian Defense League, Box 449, Arabi, LA 70023

(11) "Bulletin", June 1992 issue, P.O. Box 986, Ft. Collins, CO 80522

(Newsletter; $3 each)

(12) "Savings and Loan Unethical Bailout" by Rev. Casimir F. Gierut

(13) "Dark Secrets of the New Age" by Texe Marrs

(14) "En Route to Global Occupation" by Gary H. Kah

(15) "One World" by John Amkerberg & John Weldon

(16) "The Spotlight", Liberty Lobby, 300 Independence Ave. S.E.,

Washington, D.C. 20003 (Newspaper)

(17) "Repeal the Federal Reserve Banks" by Rev. Casimir Frank Gierut

(18) The Constitution of the United States

(19) "Walls in Our Minds" by M.J. Red Beckman, Common Sense Press, P.O.

Box 1544, Billings, MT 59103. A must read book - $2.50

(20) "The Law That Never Was" Volume I, Bill Benson & M.J. Red Beckman,

P.O. Box 1544, Billings, MT 59103 or write to Bill Benson, P.O.

Box 550, South Holland, IL 60473. Proof that the 16th Amendment

(income tax) was never properly ratified.

(21) "New World Order: The Ancient Plan of Secret Societies" by William

T. Still

(22) "The Secrets of the Federal Reserve" by Mullins

(23) "The Social Security & Pension Conspiracy" by Metz

(24) "The History of the Federal Reserve. How to Replace It or How to

Reform It" by Metz - for references 23 & 24 write to Howard Metz,

P.O. Box 341, Malverne, LI 11565

(25) "The New World Order" by Pat Robertson. On page 131 he states

that we must abolish the FED.

(26) "Operation Vampire Killer 2000", highly recommended book. $6.00 ($8.00 for 2)

from ACLA, P.O. Box 8712, Phoenix, AZ 85066 This is a must read book with quotes

from well known people. This book proves conspiracy. Your local police needs to read

this book so they will protect you - not become United Nations Agents against you. This

book will stop the New World Order plan to take over the U.S.A.

"America Betrayed", Center For Action, 652 N. Glenview, Nesa, AZ

85213

 

For references 1, 12, and 17, contact The National Committee to

Repeal the Federal Reserve Act (Reference 2)

 

MEDIA BLACKS OUT THE FACTS

 

Here's one terrific example. John Swinton, the former Chief of Staff for the New York

Times, was one of New York's best loved newspapermen. Called by his peers "The

Dean of his Profession", John was asked in 1953 to give a toast before the New York

Press Club, and in so doing, made a monumentally important and revealing statement.

He is quoted as follows:

 

"There is no such thing, at this date of the world's history, in America, as an independent

 

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press. You know it and I know it. There is not one of you who dares to write your honest

opinions, and if you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am

paid weekly for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper I am connected with. Others

of you are paid similar weekly salaries for similar things, and any of you who would be

so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the streets looking for another

job. If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper, before

twenty-four hours my occupation would be gone. The business of the journalists is to

destroy the truth; to lie outright; to pervert; to vilify; to fawn at the feet of mammon, and

to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it, and what

folly is this toasting an independent press? We are the tools and vassals of rich men

behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our

talents, our possibilities, and our lives are all the property of other men. We are

intellectual prostitutes."

 

RICHARD M. COHAN, Senior Producer of CBS political news said: "We are going to

impose OUR AGENDA on the coverage by dealing with issues and subjects that WE

choose to deal with."

 

RICHARD SALANT, former President of CBS News stated: "Our job is to give people

not what they want, but what WE decide they ought to have."

 

And what is "their" agenda? What do they believe we, the American people, - THE

COMMON HERD, "...ought to have?" Here is the answer:

 

NORMAN THOMAS - For many years the U.S. Socialist Presidential candidate

proclaimed: "The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the

name of "liberalism" they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one

day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing what happened."

 

HERMAN DISMORE, foreign editor of the New York Times from 1950 to 1960: "The

New York Times is deliberately pitched to the liberal (socialist) point of view."

 

WALTER CRONKITE: "News reporters are certainly liberal (socialists) and left of

center."

 

BARBARA WALTERS: "The news media in general are liberals (socialists)."

 

Reference for everything above - Operation Vampire Killer, P.O. Box 8712, Phoenix,

AZ 85066

 

The world, finally including even the balky American public, is "being rapidly educated

into overcoming limited patriotism" and accepting "United Nations solutions to common

global problems," said Henry Kissinger.

 

Bilderberg participants expressed satisfaction with progress toward world government

on two fronts:

 

* Establishing a UN tax to not only finance new global programs, but to condition

"citizens of the world" to paying tribute.

* Conditioning the public -- again, especially "those stubborn Americans" -- to accept

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the idea of a UN army that could, by force, impose its will on the internal affairs of any

nation.

 

"Today, Americans would be outraged if UN forces entered Los Angeles to

restore order; tomorrow, they will be grateful," Kissinger said (of the

1992 Los Angeles riot).

 

Kissinger reported on a shocking speech made by UN Secretary General Butrous Ghali

to the American Association of Newspaper Publishers at UN headquarters in New York

in early May. The publishers' newspapers covered up the story.

 

The UN Security Council must have a permanent force that can be deployed anywhere

in the world, instantly, to "protect the peace" and "ensure human rights" the

secretary-general told the newspaper publishers.

 

UN TO INVADE U.S.

 

This force must be allowed to intervene "at the local and community levels," the UN

leader told the American publishers.

 

What is "especially gratifying," Kissinger said, "is that the publishers showed no

reservations about the prospects of UN forces landing in the United States and imposing

the UN's will."

 

Reference - The Spotlight, June 8, 1992, page 10. Liberty Lobby, 300 Independence

Ave. S.E., Washington, D.C. 20003 (Newspaper)

 

SUMMARY OF QUICK FACTS

 

* Various dates and proofs that the Bankers created panic to push Congress to pass laws

favoring bankers... Reference 22

* President Wilson received $85,000 bribe from bankers... Reference 22, pages 25-26

* How England, through the Bankers, controls our Congress... Reference 22, pages

47-48

* Rockefeller is connected to President Carter... Reference 22, page 171; Reference 25,

page 103

* How George Bush is directly connected to the FED bank... Reference 22, page 49

* President Hoover and President Roosevelt were international Bankers... Reference 22,

pages 69-71 and pages 157-159

* President Nixon was hired by Rockefeller's law firm to become President... Reference

25, pages 100-101

* FED owner's manual to destroy and control U.S. citizens... Reference 22, pages 55-56

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* Proof Bankers claim they control the government... Reference 22, page 59

* Proof the FED knowingly created the Great Depression for their gain... Reference 22,

pages 137-170

* FED bankers are directly linked to the New World Order and the United Nations. New

World Order was discussed by George Bush, Rockefeller, Adolph Hitler, and Jimmy

Carter... Reference 25, pages 5-7

* The Great Seal on back of the FED $1 bill, below pyramid, the NOVUS ORDO

SECLORUM means "New World of the Ages" or --->> New World Order... Reference

25, page 35

* How the Banker's tax-exempt organizations fund activities to destroy America's

freedom by attacking our Constitution and way of life... Reference 25, pages 138-159;

Reference 14 (throughout whole book)

* Senator Barry Goldwater warned of economic powers capable of bypassing or

controlling the political powers. Bank induced depression is possible in the future to

force political change... Reference 25, 131

* Rockefeller's money was used to seize control of America's teaching and training of

students by rewriting history and textbooks. Rockefeller has also funded the National

Education Association (NEA)... Reference 14, page 61

* Gary Kah, high-ranking government liaison having first-hand knowledge of the New

World Order exposes the truth. Read his book and En Route To Global Occupation...

Reference 14

QUICK FACTS FROM TOM SCHAUF:

 

First, we must uphold the Constitution. Please call the Hotline (217-854-7504) weekly

for new information. When a state considers a Constitutional Convention, concerned

Americans call the Hotline and it gives us the names and telephone numbers of the

legislators involved. It tells us exactly what to say, and to whom. The Hotline helps us to

fight and win!

 

Secondly, we must change the opinions of the masses with information. The brochure

has been a big help, and once 10% of the population agrees to abolish the FED, the rest

will follow.

 

It is obvious the media (radio and newspapers) have lied about the FED and the efforts

of FED-UP to educate people with the truth. This will not stop us - we will persist!

Decide for yourself if you want to win America back. If 10,000 patriotic Americans each

distribute 1,000 brochures, 10 million Americans will become informed. It would be

almost impossible to stop people from talking about abolishing the FED if that many

Americans were informed. Another way you can participate is to put a bumper sticker

on your car. Over 1,000 people every month will see that bumper sticker about

abolishing the FED.

 

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If you think our goal is impossible, remember this; only 3% of Americans supported the

Revolutionary War, and we won that war. We can win this war too, but only with your

help.

 

IN CLOSING

 

For the secret owners of the FED to control the volume of money and become our

absolute masters, they had to get the Gold away from our grandparents. This was

accomplished in 1933 with the threats of fines and imprisonments by their President

Franklin D. Roosevelt with aide Harry Hopkins, who said... "Elect, elect, elect, tax, tax,

tax, spend, spend, spend, for the people are too damned stupid to understand". By the

way, Roosevelt was an international Banker. See Fool's Gold is Green by Winston

Smith.

 

THE FED IS SLOWLY DESTROYING AMERICA

 

Our government never had a chance...with political corruption ravaging its Constitution.

The *real facts* don't lie...and neither do government documents...Congressional

Record, Congressman Wright Patman, A Primer On Money prepared by the

Sub-committee on Domestic Finance, House of Representatives, Committee on Banking

and Currency - 88th Congress, 2nd session, August 4th, 1964 and December 23, 1913,

page 1464 & 1478.

 

Congressional Record, Congressman Louis McFadden, June 10, 1932, House of

Representatives, pages 12604-12605

 

Congressional Record, 98th Congress, 1st session, February 3, 1983, Congressman Ron

Paul

 

Congressional Record, Committee on Banking and Currency, House of Representatives,

77th Congress, 1st session, Tuesday, September 30, 1941, pages 1342-1345

 

THERE ARE MANY MORE CONGRESSIONAL TESTIMONIALS

 

IS THERE BIAS IN THE MEDIA REGARDING THE FED?

 

DURING THE TV PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES, CLINTON WAS ASKED SHOULD

THERE BE RESTRICTIONS ON THE FED? THE NEXT DAY, MAJOR

NEWSPAPERS SAID THEY COVERED THE WHOLE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE

TEXT, BUT MANY NEWSPAPERS ELIMINATED THIS ONE QUESTION. CHECK

YOUR LIBRARY!

 

The Revolutionary War was fought and the Constitution was written to prevent other

nations and private banks from issuing (printing) money and controlling our currency.

 

In 1913, members of Congress committed treason and violated their oath of office to

defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic by voting in the

Federal Reserve Bank.

 

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For the New World Order to create a one world government, they must control a central

bank, eliminate the Constitution, end Christian values, disarm America, and control the

media. The Council on Foreign Relations has openly said they will take us over in favor

of a one world government. The American people must be warned or we may lose our

freedom forever. If we do not demand our rights and uphold the Constitution, the CFR

and bankers will continue their march toward socialism. If we allow them to continue,

they will abolish our rights and put an end to our present government. I urge all

Americans to distribute the "main" FED-UP brochure ("saving $6000 in taxes per year,

per person & balancing the budget) and collect signatures on the petition (see order form

in the main brochure). Then all informed Americans can take action and hold their

politicians accountable. The bankers control the media, but can not stop patriotic

Americans from using copy machines to distribute information and inform America.

Once informed, people will demand an explanation why Congress allowed this fraud as

the media appeared to be independent and investigative, but remained silent on this

important issue.

 

The ones who scream the loudest to keep the Federal Reserve Bank probably profit the

most.

 

[About the Author:]

 

Thomas D. Schauf, CPA, is a national speaker to Certified Public Accountants and

business leaders. Mr. Schauf's expertise includes banking, the economy, business

appraisals, mergers, and acquisitions.

 

We are looking for leaders in all states to help us abolish the FED. Please write and let

us know you're willing to help. The future of America depends on you.

 

CONTRIBUTIONS TO CONTINUE THE CAUSE ARE APPRECIATED

 

PLEASE HELP DISTRIBUTE INFORMATION AND COLLECT SIGNATURES ON

PETITIONS

 

Mr. Schauf and other speakers are available to speak at seminars, group meetings, on

radio, and on television.

FED-UP * P.O. Box 834 * Streamwood, IL 60103-0834

 

© 1992 Thomas D. Schauf

PLEASE COPY AND DISTRIBUTE WIDELY WITH NO CHANGES

 

Acknowledgements:

 

Our country likes to thank our forefathers for the Constitution.

 

I wish to thank Mr. Lou Gamboa for his research of the Constitution and our banking

system. Lou Gamboa is a national speaker on the subject, and has spoken on numerous

radio programs in an effort to educate the public.

 

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I also want to thank Bob Corcoran for his research and encouragement.

 

I applaud the thousands of patriotic Americans who are spreading the word so we can

live in economic prosperity and uphold our Constitutional rights.

 

ARTICLE 1, SECTION 8 OF THE CONSTITUTION STATES THAT CONGRESS

SHALL HAVE THE POWER TO COIN (CREATE) MONEY AND REGULATE THE

VALUE THEREOF.

 

IN 1935 THE SUPREME COURT RULED THAT CONGRESS CANNOT

CONSTITUTIONALLY DELEGATE ITS POWER TO ANOTHER GROUP.

(Reference 22, P. 168)

 

Rothschild, a London Banker, wrote a letter saying "It (Central Bank ) gives the

National Bank almost complete control of national finance. The few who understand the

system will either be so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favours, that there

will be no opposition from that class... The great body of the people, mentally incapable

of comprehending, will bear its burden without complaint, and perhaps without even

suspecting that the system is inimical (contrary) to their interests." [The bankers created

the legislation for the FED]

 

In 1913, before the Senate Banking and Currency Committee, Mr. Alexander stated:

"But the whole scheme of a Federal Reserve Bank with its commercial-paper basis is an

impractical, cumbersome machinery, is simply a cover, to find a way to secure the

privilege of issuing money and to evade payment of as much tax upon circulation as

possible, and then control the issue and maintain, instead of reduce, interest rates. It is a

system that, if inaugurated, will prove to the advantage of the few and the detriment of

the people of the United States. It will mean continued shortage of actual money and

further extension of credits; for when there is a lack of real money people have to

borrow credit to their cost."

 

Wisdom And Freedom produced by WORLD NEWSSTAND

Copyright © 1999. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.

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The 12 Federal Reserve banks are controlled by a board selected by the Prsident and ratified by the Senate. It's difficult to see how fraud could be involved in this arrangement. It doesn't make any difference if the individual banks are privately owned or not. It's actually hard to imagine that Americans would put up with a socialist idea like the government owning the country's major bank.

 

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Here are a few pertinent paras, starting with the Conclusion:

 

It does not appear that the New York Federal Reserve Bank is owned, either directly or indirectly, by foreigners. Neither Mullins nor Kah provided verifiable sources for their allegations, nor did their mysterious sources agree on exactly who owns the New York Federal Reserve Bank. Moreover, their central assumption that control of the New York Federal Reserve is the same as control of the whole System is wrong and demonstrates a lack of understanding of the System's basic organizational structure. The profits of the Federal Reserve System, again contrary to the assertion of Kah and Schauf, are funneled back to the federal government, not to an "international banking elite." If the U.S. central bank is in the grip of a banking conspiracy, then Mullins and Kah have certainly not uncovered it.

 

Who Gets the Fed's Profits?

 

Gary Kah and Thomas Schauf have also maintained that the huge profits of the Federal Reserve System are diverted to its foreign owners through the dividends paid to its stockholders. Kah reported "Each year billions of dollars are 'earned' by Class A stockholders of the Federal Reserve" (Kah, p. 20). Schauf further lamented by asking, "When are the profits of the Fed going to start flowing into the Treasury so that average Americans are no longer burdened with excessive, unnecessary taxes?"

 

The Federal Reserve System certainly makes large profits. According to the Board's 1995 Annual Report, the System had net income totaling $23.9 billion, which, if it were a single firm, would qualify it as one of the most profitable companies in the world. How were these profits distributed? By an agreement between the Board of Governors and the Treasury, nearly all of the Fed's annual profits are paid to the federal government. Accordingly, a lion's share of $23.4 billion, which represents 97.9 percent of the Federal Reserve's net income, was transferred to the Treasury. The Federal Reserve Banks kept $283 million, and the remaining $231 million was paid to its stockholders as dividends.

 

Given that less than one percent of the Fed's net earnings are distributed as dividends, it seems that an investor could easily find much more profitable ways to store their wealth than buying Federal Reserve stock. Regarding Schauf's lamentation, the Federal Reserve System has been paying its profits to the Treasury since 1947.

 

A brief look at how the Fed's powers over monetary policy are actually distributed shows that the key assumption in the Mullins-Kah conspiracy theory is erroneous. The Federal Reserve System is controlled not by the New York Fed, but by the Board of Governors (the Board) and the Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC). The Board is a seven member panel appointed by the President and approved by the Senate. It determines the interest rate, known as the discount rate, for loans to commercial banks and thrifts, selects the required reserve ratio which determines how much of customer deposits a bank must keep on hand (a factor that significantly affects a bank's ability create new loans), and also decides how much new currency Federal Reserve Banks may issue each year (12 USCA 248). The FOMC consists of the members of the Board, the president of the New York Fed, and four presidents from other Fed Banks. The FOMC formulates open market policy, which determines how much in government bonds the Fed Banks may trade, and is the most effective and commonly used of the Fed's monetary policy tools (12 USCA 263). The key point is that a Federal Reserve Bank cannot change its discount rate or required reserve ratio, issue additional currency, or purchase government bonds without the explicit approval of either the Board or the FOMC.

 

The New York Federal Reserve Bank through its direct and permanent representation on the FOMC has more say on monetary policy than other Federal Reserve Banks, but it still only has one vote of twelve on the FOMC and no say at all in setting the discount rate or the required reserve ratio. If it wanted monetary policy to go in one direction, while the Board and the rest of the FOMC wanted policy to go another, then the New York Fed would be out-voted. The powers over U.S. monetary policy rest firmly with the publicly-appointed Board of Governors and the Federal Open Market Committee, not with the New York Federal Reserve Bank or a group of international conspirators.

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The problem here is you can only see all this from one perspective. This economy enveloped in interest is already one of the many prophecies told 1400 years ago. Do you seriously believe that those who have power in their hands use it for goodness in this modern age? The problem is your mind has already been programed to accept such changes and events without questioning it. This economic slavery is only one of the many factors that have been introduced upon mankind during this modern era.

 

All these prophecies have already come true -

 

# The disappearance of knowledge and the appearance of ignorance (Bukhari, Muslim, Ibn Majah, & Ahmad)

# Books/writing will be widespread and (religious) knowledge will be low (Ahmad)

# Adultery and fornication will be prevalent (The Prophet, peace be upon him, said that this has never happened without new diseases befalling the people, which their ancestors had not known.) (Bukhari, Muslim, Ibn Majah, & Al-Haythami)

# When fornication becomes widespread among your leaders (The Prophet, peace be upon him, said that this will happen when the people stop forbidding evil) (Ibn Majah)

# Adultery and fornication will be performed in the open

# The consumption of intoxicants will be widespread (Bukhari & Muslim)

# Women will outnumber men......eventually 50:1 (Bukhari, Muslim, & Ahmad)

# Killing, killing, killing (Bukhari, Muslim, Ibn Majah, & Ahmad)

# The nations of the earth will gather against the Muslims like hungry people going to sit down to a table full of food. This will occur when the Muslims are large in number, but "like the foam of the sea".

# People will beat others with whips like the tails of oxen (Muslim) ?The Slave Trade

# The children will be filled with rage (at-Tabarani, al-Hakim)

# Children will be foul (at-Tabarani, al-Hakim)

# Women will conspire (at-Tabarani, al-Hakim)

# Rain will be acidic or burning (at-Tabarani, al-Hakim)

# Children of fornication will become widespread or prevalent (at-Tabarani, al-Hakim)

# When a trust becomes a means of making a profit (at-Tirmidhi, Al-Haythami)

# Gains will be shared out only among the rich, with no benefit to the poor (at-Tirmidhi)

# Paying zakat becomes a burden and miserliness becomes widespread; charity is given reluctantly (at-Tirmidhi & Al-Haythami)

# Miserliness will be thrown into the hearts of people (Bukhari)

# Episodes of sudden death will become widespread (Ahmad)

# There will be people who will be brethren in public but enemies in secret (He was asked how that would come about and replied, "Because they will have ulterior motives in their mutual dealings and at the same time will fear one another.") (at-Tirmidhi)

# When a man obeys his wife and disobeys his mother; and treats his friend kindly while shunning his father (at-Tirmidhi)

# When voices are raised in the Masjids (at-Tirmidhi)

# People will walk in the marketplace with their thighs exposed

# Great distances will be traversed in short spans of time

# The people of Iraq will recieve no food and no money due to oppression by the Romans (Europeans) (Muslim)

# People will hop between the clouds and the earth

# A tribulation will enter everyone�s home (Ahmad)

# The leader of a people will be the worst of them (at-Tirmidhi)

# Leaders of people will be oppressors (Al-Haythami)

# People will treat a man with respect out of fear for some evil he might do (at-Tirmidhi)

# Men will begin to wear silk (at-Tirmidhi)

# Female singers and musical instruments will become popular (at-Tirmidhi)

# When singers become common (Al-Haythami)

# People will dance late into the night

# When the last ones of the Ummah begin to curse the first ones (at-Tirmidhi)

# People will claim to follow the Qur'an but will reject hadith & sunnah (Abu Dawood)

# People will believe in the stars (Al-Haythami)

# People will reject al-Qadr (the Divine Decree of Destiny) (Al-Haythami)

# Time will pass rapidly (Bukhari, Muslim, & Ahmad)

# Good deeds will decrease (Bukhari)

# Smog will appear over cities because of the evil that they are doing

# People will be carrying on with their trade, but their will only be a few trustworthy persons

# Wealth will increase so much so that if a man were given 10,000, he would not be content with it (Ahmad & Bukhari)

# A man will pass by a grave and wish that he was in their place (Bukhari)

# Earthquakes will increase (Bukhari & Muslim)

# There will be attempts to make the deserts green

# The appearance of false messengers (30 dajjals) (Bukhari)

# Women will be naked in spite of being dressed, these women will be led astray & will lead others astray (Muslim)

# The conquest of Constantinople by the Muslims (Ahmad)

# The conquest of India by the Muslims, just prior to the return of Jesus, son of Mary (peace be upon both of them)(Ahmad, an-Nisa'i, at-Tabarani, al-Hakim)

# When people begin to compete with others in the construction of taller buildings (Bukhari)

# There will be a special greeting for the people of distinction (Ahmad)

# The Euphrates will disclose a treasure (The Prophet, peace be upon him, said that whoever is present should not take anything from it) (Bukhari & Muslim)

# Two large groups, adhering to the same religious teaching will fight each other with large numbers of casualties (Bukhari & Muslim)

# Wild animals will be able to talk to humans (Ahmad)

# A man will leave his home and his thigh or hip will tell him what is happening back at his home (Ahmad)

# Years of deceit in which the truthful person will not be believed and the liar will be believed (Ahmad)

# Bearing false witness will become widespread (Al-Haythami & Ahmad)

# When men lie with men and women lie with women (Al-Haythami)

# Trade will become so widespread that a woman will be forced to help her husband in business (Ahmad)

# A woman will enter the workforce out of love for this world (Ahmad)

# Arrogance will increase in the earth (at-Tabarani, al-Hakim)

# Family ties will be cut (Ahmad)

# There will be many women of child-bearing age who will no longer give birth.

# There will be an abundance of food, much of which has no blessing in it.

# People will refuse when offerred food.

# Men will begin to look like women and women will begin to look like men

 

If I were you I would read the book called 'Jerusalem in the Quran' by Sheikh Imran Hosein and understand why this holy land is so important both to muslims and zionists. Not only that but you will also understand their true agenda and how this economy all fits in together like a jigsaw puzzle.

 

Theres no point defending these evil beings with me because I am simply going to reject your defense because I can see them in a way that you can't which is why to you it seems impossible for there to be such corruptedness in the world.

 

Also to the above list - what do you have to say about a man who has prophecised all these points 1400 years ago and they are happening exactly as how he described? Any comments?

 

Peace.

Edited by world_footy_Gunner_laDy

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I personally think Obama has been elected because of his skin color. Of course if he did not carry enough credibility, the party would have chosen Hillary Clinton (In fact this election was maybe more a vote against McCain and his party). Obama's election is the result of a social and cultural context in the US. The perception that I have of Americans is that electing a black person makes them look cool and tolerant. They also needed change, and what better change than to have the first black president in United States.

 

It's obvious that I am pessimistic with regards to obama's impact on the real issues our world is facing. But I prefer to be mistaken being pessimistic than the opposite.

 

Wassalamo alaikom

 

looks like you're dead right. obama is like many other usa presidents. vocal and hollow. the socalled peace talk between israelis and palestinians is one big EASTER EGG. sigh.

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The cold war was wone when both sides had come to the ponit of thinking that this is how it is, not expecting things to change. That is when the communist block colapsed...

 

The civilwar in Northern Ireland again ended when people expected it not to change for the next 20 years....

 

Perhaps the lack of movement will result in both sides re-thinking there directions and what game they are playing.

 

Lets hope this happens soon.

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when the communist block collapse, you said. well, i dont think israeli government gonna collapse whereas the palestinian government is in tatters. the un and superpower usa are impotent.

 

civil war in n.ireland ends after 20 years . . . . while israeli palestinian conflict has passed half century mark.

 

israelis continue to destroy palestinians' properties in gaza and west bank as they assured the world they wanna have peace. so what kind of re-thinking both sides gotta do?

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Some how they will have to either kill the other side or work out how to live together.

 

Killing the other side is not going to be allowed by the rest of the world.

 

But the answer has to come out of the local's hearts. Whilst the anger is such that the preferance is for war and death there will be no end to the horror.

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Sallam, my input:

 

Palestine is in slow death. Death in slow motion if you will. In my opinion israel is going to attempt to eradicate palestine a few dozen settlements at a time. When one side has massive weapons, financing and international support (including unswerving support from the world's sole superpower) and the other side is worried about food, medicine and a shelter over their heads, the outcome is rather obvious. However, nothing is ever truly lost. Allah (or God perhaps to some of you) is not unjust and He will bring us all to account for out deeds. And Satan doesn't hold a feather to Him.

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. . . .

However, nothing is ever truly lost. Allah (or God perhaps to some of you) is not unjust and He will bring us all to account for out deeds. And Satan doesn't hold a feather to Him.

 

i dont mean to be obnoxious to muslim forummers. indeed people with religion gonna believe the good gonna go to heaven and the evil to hell. nonetheless if you expect god to correct unjust things come doomsday, palestinians and muslims may as well roll over and die. the first to do that should be powerful muslim nations with black gold. one and only superpower usa couldn't and wouldn't lift a finger to correct unjust things that befallen palestinians unless and until these powerful guys put their foot down. :sl:

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Some how they will have to either kill the other side or work out how to live together.

 

Killing the other side is not going to be allowed by the rest of the world.

 

But the answer has to come out of the local's hearts. Whilst the anger is such that the preferance is for war and death there will be no end to the horror.

 

inother words the socalled rethinking that israelis and palestinians gotta do is to enhance their deeds. israelis gonna continue slaughtering palestinians as they continue calling for peace. and palestinians gonna continue whining for mercy to un. sigh.

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